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Post by moon/Laura on Sept 26, 2023 19:16:21 GMT -5
This is one of the most ignorant statements I've heard you make. You truly need to open your eyes because we most emphatically do NOT live in that society. We should, but until racism no longer exists, then there's no such thing as equality. Until POC aren't pulled over, killed, harassed, etc., solely due to the color of their skin, there is no equality.
There is no equality. but the caveat to equality is the freedom for all. Including racist. I never said there is not racist people just we have laws that protect people from the racist. OMFG. Are you kidding?! I'm not even sure exactly which laws you think are against systemic racism, but they don't prevent it in any way, shape, or form. You just refuse to open your fucking mind and eyes and SEE it. People like you are the problem and always will be.
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 26, 2023 19:22:44 GMT -5
This is one of the most ignorant statements I've heard you make. You truly need to open your eyes because we most emphatically do NOT live in that society. We should, but until racism no longer exists, then there's no such thing as equality. Until POC aren't pulled over, killed, harassed, etc., solely due to the color of their skin, there is no equality.
There is no equality. but the caveat to equality is the freedom for all. Including racist. I never said there is not racist people just we have laws that protect people from the racist. how did that work out for George Floyd? he's still dead, your laws can't bring him back.
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 26, 2023 19:27:34 GMT -5
scgal : If the thread title below and through out the article replaced Black with Liberal or Democratic Party you might have a point (racism in the country no longer exists). But there does seem to be a real racism problem in the state of Alabama. Racism is alive and well in the South. And the South is part of the United States. Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black districtWASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Tuesday handed a defeat to Alabama Republicans for the second time in three months, rejecting their latest attempt to use a congressional map that includes only one majority-Black district. The court in two related applications refused emergency requests from Republican state officials to block lower court rulings that invalidated the new map. Lower court proceedings to approve a new map are still ongoing. The decision was in line with the Supreme Court ruling against the state in June that reaffirmed a key provision of the landmark Voting Rights Act. There were no noted dissenting votes and the court did not explain its reasoning. The Supreme Court's earlier ruling forced the state back to the drawing board. But the new map — like the previous one — includes only one district where Black voters are likely to be able to elect a candidate of their choosing. Alabama has seven congressional districts, and 27% of the state's population is Black. The new map was thrown out in two different lower court rulings, with the judges saying an additional minority-Black district was required, in line with the Supreme Court's June ruling. “We are not aware of any other case in which a state legislature — faced with a federal court order declaring that its electoral plan unlawfully dilutes minority votes and requiring a plan that provides an additional opportunity district — responded with a plan that the state concedes does not provide that district," one of the court rulings said. Rest of article here: Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black district I never said there isn't racism I said we don't live in a racist society we have laws that protect people from racist and that is the best that can happen. Since there are laws there is no way that the racism that is here can be systemic. WTF? there's laws against child serial abuse. does that mean the Spotlight movie cases* weren't indicative of something systemic? for real, GTFO. *Spotlight here is my shorthand. I grew up in the particular archdiocese under the Spotlight, and am still a Boston Globe subscriber today.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 26, 2023 19:56:36 GMT -5
scgal : If the thread title below and through out the article replaced Black with Liberal or Democratic Party you might have a point (racism in the country no longer exists). But there does seem to be a real racism problem in the state of Alabama. Racism is alive and well in the South. And the South is part of the United States. Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black districtWASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Tuesday handed a defeat to Alabama Republicans for the second time in three months, rejecting their latest attempt to use a congressional map that includes only one majority-Black district. The court in two related applications refused emergency requests from Republican state officials to block lower court rulings that invalidated the new map. Lower court proceedings to approve a new map are still ongoing. The decision was in line with the Supreme Court ruling against the state in June that reaffirmed a key provision of the landmark Voting Rights Act. There were no noted dissenting votes and the court did not explain its reasoning. The Supreme Court's earlier ruling forced the state back to the drawing board. But the new map — like the previous one — includes only one district where Black voters are likely to be able to elect a candidate of their choosing. Alabama has seven congressional districts, and 27% of the state's population is Black. The new map was thrown out in two different lower court rulings, with the judges saying an additional minority-Black district was required, in line with the Supreme Court's June ruling. “We are not aware of any other case in which a state legislature — faced with a federal court order declaring that its electoral plan unlawfully dilutes minority votes and requiring a plan that provides an additional opportunity district — responded with a plan that the state concedes does not provide that district," one of the court rulings said. Rest of article here: Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black district I never said there isn't racism I said we don't live in a racist society we have laws that protect people from racist and that is the best that can happen. Since there are laws there is no way that the racism that is here can be systemic. Seems systemic in Alabama. Alabama Voters to Decide Whether to Erase Racist Wording, Reorganize State ConstitutionNovember 6, 2022 The Alabama Constitution, approved in 1901, still has language regarding segregated schools, poll taxes and bans on interracial marriage. But a change could be in store. Tuesday, Alabama voters will decide whether to remove Jim Crow-era language. It would also reorganize the governing document, which has been amended 978 times and tops over 400,000 words. The Public Affairs Research Council of Alabama says the size makes it the longest such document in the world. Voters in 2020 authorized state officials and lawmakers to cut the racist language that lingers from the era of racial segregation. That work, finally completed, now goes back before voters to ratify the Alabama Constitution of 2022. Proponents say the changes that will demonstrate Alabama is a different place today — and streamline the sprawling constitution to be more user-friendly. “This is an effort to show, not only the rest of the country, but the world who we are today,” said state Rep. Merika Coleman (D-Birmingham), one of the lawmakers who led the bipartisan effort. Alabama Voters to Decide Whether to Erase Racist Wording, Reorganize State ConstitutionVoters erase racist wording in Alabama ConstitutionAlabama has voted to erase racist wording from the state’s constitution. The Alabama Constitution, approved in 1901 to entrench white supremacy, still has language regarding segregated schools, poll taxes and bans on interracial marriage. But Alabama voters on Tuesday decided to ratify a new constitution that strips out the Jim Crow-era language. It also reorganizes the unwieldy governing document, which has been amended 978 times and tops over 400,000 words. The Public Affairs Research Council of Alabama says the size makes it the longest such document in the world. Vote was: YES 888,456 votes 76.5% NO 273,040 votes 23.5% Voters erase racist wording in Alabama Constitution23.5% or 273,040 voters wanted the racist language to remain in the Alabama constitution.
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Post by tallguy on Sept 27, 2023 1:24:13 GMT -5
scgal : If the thread title below and through out the article replaced Black with Liberal or Democratic Party you might have a point (racism in the country no longer exists). But there does seem to be a real racism problem in the state of Alabama. Racism is alive and well in the South. And the South is part of the United States. Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black districtWASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Tuesday handed a defeat to Alabama Republicans for the second time in three months, rejecting their latest attempt to use a congressional map that includes only one majority-Black district. The court in two related applications refused emergency requests from Republican state officials to block lower court rulings that invalidated the new map. Lower court proceedings to approve a new map are still ongoing. The decision was in line with the Supreme Court ruling against the state in June that reaffirmed a key provision of the landmark Voting Rights Act. There were no noted dissenting votes and the court did not explain its reasoning. The Supreme Court's earlier ruling forced the state back to the drawing board. But the new map — like the previous one — includes only one district where Black voters are likely to be able to elect a candidate of their choosing. Alabama has seven congressional districts, and 27% of the state's population is Black. The new map was thrown out in two different lower court rulings, with the judges saying an additional minority-Black district was required, in line with the Supreme Court's June ruling. “We are not aware of any other case in which a state legislature — faced with a federal court order declaring that its electoral plan unlawfully dilutes minority votes and requiring a plan that provides an additional opportunity district — responded with a plan that the state concedes does not provide that district," one of the court rulings said. Rest of article here: Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black district I never said there isn't racism I said we don't live in a racist society we have laws that protect people from racist and that is the best that can happen. Since there are laws there is no way that the racism that is here can be systemic. That may be one of the most profoundly ignorant things I have ever read. Congratulations, I guess?
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Post by Opti on Sept 27, 2023 1:43:31 GMT -5
Some people have a hard time understanding what it might be like to be the other. So they ignore obvious exclusionary systems whether its certain country clubs, I think once recent one on the PGA golf tour finally opened up membership to blacks. How certain jurisdictions have a history of hassling non whites including easy escalations to beatings and worse. Similar to how certain small southern towns used to jail and extort non local motorists for speed violations and similar.
Racism and Sexism are rarely solitary pursuits, but usually group think with like minded folks. That's how the KKK's brand of racism became systemic.
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Post by scgal on Oct 2, 2023 10:03:09 GMT -5
I never said there isn't racism I said we don't live in a racist society we have laws that protect people from racist and that is the best that can happen. Since there are laws there is no way that the racism that is here can be systemic. Seems systemic in Alabama. Alabama Voters to Decide Whether to Erase Racist Wording, Reorganize State ConstitutionNovember 6, 2022 The Alabama Constitution, approved in 1901, still has language regarding segregated schools, poll taxes and bans on interracial marriage. But a change could be in store. Tuesday, Alabama voters will decide whether to remove Jim Crow-era language. It would also reorganize the governing document, which has been amended 978 times and tops over 400,000 words. The Public Affairs Research Council of Alabama says the size makes it the longest such document in the world. Voters in 2020 authorized state officials and lawmakers to cut the racist language that lingers from the era of racial segregation. That work, finally completed, now goes back before voters to ratify the Alabama Constitution of 2022. Proponents say the changes that will demonstrate Alabama is a different place today — and streamline the sprawling constitution to be more user-friendly. “This is an effort to show, not only the rest of the country, but the world who we are today,” said state Rep. Merika Coleman (D-Birmingham), one of the lawmakers who led the bipartisan effort. Alabama Voters to Decide Whether to Erase Racist Wording, Reorganize State ConstitutionVoters erase racist wording in Alabama ConstitutionAlabama has voted to erase racist wording from the state’s constitution. The Alabama Constitution, approved in 1901 to entrench white supremacy, still has language regarding segregated schools, poll taxes and bans on interracial marriage. But Alabama voters on Tuesday decided to ratify a new constitution that strips out the Jim Crow-era language. It also reorganizes the unwieldy governing document, which has been amended 978 times and tops over 400,000 words. The Public Affairs Research Council of Alabama says the size makes it the longest such document in the world. Vote was: YES 888,456 votes 76.5% NO 273,040 votes 23.5% Voters erase racist wording in Alabama Constitution23.5% or 273,040 voters wanted the racist language to remain in the Alabama constitution. This is exactly what i'm talking about. It was voted out. If it was voted to stay then I would say it is systemic.
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Post by scgal on Oct 2, 2023 10:04:37 GMT -5
but the caveat to equality is the freedom for all. Including racist. I never said there is not racist people just we have laws that protect people from the racist. how did that work out for George Floyd? he's still dead, your laws can't bring him back. Again, I never said there is no racist I agree there is alot of racism around it is not I repeat not systemic.
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Post by scgal on Oct 2, 2023 10:07:52 GMT -5
I never said there isn't racism I said we don't live in a racist society we have laws that protect people from racist and that is the best that can happen. Since there are laws there is no way that the racism that is here can be systemic. It's like saying there can't be any speeding because there are laws. There are many more systems in RL than just laws. For example, Domino's drivers might speed more than other delivery drivers if they are graded on delivery time and have significant penalties if they miss the promised delivery time. Just like people break speeding laws. Racist will try to push their racist agenda until they are caught. The part of them being racist is ok under the law they just can't act upon it to break any laws.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 2, 2023 10:13:21 GMT -5
Seems systemic in Alabama. Alabama Voters to Decide Whether to Erase Racist Wording, Reorganize State ConstitutionNovember 6, 2022 The Alabama Constitution, approved in 1901, still has language regarding segregated schools, poll taxes and bans on interracial marriage. But a change could be in store. Tuesday, Alabama voters will decide whether to remove Jim Crow-era language. It would also reorganize the governing document, which has been amended 978 times and tops over 400,000 words. The Public Affairs Research Council of Alabama says the size makes it the longest such document in the world. Voters in 2020 authorized state officials and lawmakers to cut the racist language that lingers from the era of racial segregation. That work, finally completed, now goes back before voters to ratify the Alabama Constitution of 2022. Proponents say the changes that will demonstrate Alabama is a different place today — and streamline the sprawling constitution to be more user-friendly. “This is an effort to show, not only the rest of the country, but the world who we are today,” said state Rep. Merika Coleman (D-Birmingham), one of the lawmakers who led the bipartisan effort. Alabama Voters to Decide Whether to Erase Racist Wording, Reorganize State ConstitutionVoters erase racist wording in Alabama ConstitutionAlabama has voted to erase racist wording from the state’s constitution. The Alabama Constitution, approved in 1901 to entrench white supremacy, still has language regarding segregated schools, poll taxes and bans on interracial marriage. But Alabama voters on Tuesday decided to ratify a new constitution that strips out the Jim Crow-era language. It also reorganizes the unwieldy governing document, which has been amended 978 times and tops over 400,000 words. The Public Affairs Research Council of Alabama says the size makes it the longest such document in the world. Vote was: YES 888,456 votes 76.5% NO 273,040 votes 23.5% Voters erase racist wording in Alabama Constitution23.5% or 273,040 voters wanted the racist language to remain in the Alabama constitution. This is exactly what i'm talking about. It was voted out. If it was voted to stay then I would say it is systemic. Almost 25% of Alabama voters didn't want to delete the racist language from their constitution. Alabama has a racism problem and it is statewide.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 2, 2023 10:21:57 GMT -5
Washington Post article. May be behind a paywall for some. Board rules do not allow me to post the complete article. If anyone is interested in the complete article but cannot read it on-line due to the paywall, let me know. I will send it to you in a message here. White Christians say too many see racism when it’s not there, new poll findsA new survey from Pew Research revealed once again how deeply divided religious Americans are on matters of race By Bob Smietana August 29, 2023 at 12:56 p.m. EDT Three years after a national racial reckoning that followed the death of George Floyd at the hands of police — and 60 years after the March on Washington — Americans remain divided on issues of race and discrimination. That is especially true among religious groups, according to newly released data from the Pew Research Center. In April, Pew asked Americans which was the bigger problem facing the country on matters of race: People overlooking racism when it exists or seeing racism in places where there is none. Overall, just over half (53 percent) of Americans said people not seeing discrimination where it does exist was a bigger problem. Just under half (45 percent) said people seeing discrimination where it does not exist is the bigger issue. Among religious groups, however, White Christians were most likely to say claims about nonexistent racial discrimination were the bigger problem. That number includes majorities of White evangelicals (72 percent), White Catholics (60 percent) and White mainline Protestants (54 percent), according to data provided to Religion News Service by Pew Research. Few Black Protestants (10 percent), unaffiliated Americans (35 percent) or non-Christian religious Americans (31 percent) agreed that seeing discrimination where it does not exist was the bigger problem. Conversely, Black Protestants (88 percent), non-Christian religious Americans (69 percent), unaffiliated Americans (64 percent) and Hispanic Catholics (60 percent) were more likely to say that not seeing racism when it does exist is the bigger problem. Fewer White evangelicals (27 percent), White mainline Protestants (44 percent) and White Catholics (39 percent) held that view. While a majority of unaffiliated Americans, also known as Nones, said that not seeing racism was the bigger problem, there were differences when it came to the race of respondents, according to Pew. “Among White unaffiliated adults, 61% say people not seeing racial discrimination where it does exist is the larger problem for the country, while 39% say the opposite,” a Pew spokesperson said in an email. “Among Non-White unaffiliated adults, 71% say overlooking racial discrimination is the bigger issue, compared with 29% who give the opposite answer.” Rest of article here: White Christians say too many see racism when it’s not there, new poll finds
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 2, 2023 10:48:45 GMT -5
how did that work out for George Floyd? he's still dead, your laws can't bring him back. Again, I never said there is no racist I agree there is alot of racism around it is not I repeat not systemic. i used to think that, too. the "few bad eggs" theory. now i believe in the "few good eggs theory". or to put it differently, we train our cops really badly, and it comes off as racist, even if they don't intend it to be that way. it takes real strength of character to fight the training. FEW will not succumb to it.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 2, 2023 10:58:17 GMT -5
scgal : If the thread title below and through out the article replaced Black with Liberal or Democratic Party you might have a point (racism in the country no longer exists). But there does seem to be a real racism problem in the state of Alabama. Racism is alive and well in the South. And the South is part of the United States. Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black districtWASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Tuesday handed a defeat to Alabama Republicans for the second time in three months, rejecting their latest attempt to use a congressional map that includes only one majority-Black district. The court in two related applications refused emergency requests from Republican state officials to block lower court rulings that invalidated the new map. Lower court proceedings to approve a new map are still ongoing. The decision was in line with the Supreme Court ruling against the state in June that reaffirmed a key provision of the landmark Voting Rights Act. There were no noted dissenting votes and the court did not explain its reasoning. The Supreme Court's earlier ruling forced the state back to the drawing board. But the new map — like the previous one — includes only one district where Black voters are likely to be able to elect a candidate of their choosing. Alabama has seven congressional districts, and 27% of the state's population is Black. The new map was thrown out in two different lower court rulings, with the judges saying an additional minority-Black district was required, in line with the Supreme Court's June ruling. “We are not aware of any other case in which a state legislature — faced with a federal court order declaring that its electoral plan unlawfully dilutes minority votes and requiring a plan that provides an additional opportunity district — responded with a plan that the state concedes does not provide that district," one of the court rulings said. Rest of article here: Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black district I never said there isn't racism I said we don't live in a racist society we have laws that protect people from racist and that is the best that can happen. Since there are laws there is no way that the racism that is here can be systemic. I hurt myself trying to process this sentence.
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Post by andi9899 on Oct 2, 2023 11:03:39 GMT -5
I never said there isn't racism I said we don't live in a racist society we have laws that protect people from racist and that is the best that can happen. Since there are laws there is no way that the racism that is here can be systemic. I hurt myself trying to process this sentence. She really does live in some alternate universe where this crap makes sense.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 2, 2023 11:08:07 GMT -5
It's called South Carolina. It is utopia
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Post by scgal on Oct 4, 2023 8:32:10 GMT -5
This is exactly what i'm talking about. It was voted out. If it was voted to stay then I would say it is systemic. Almost 25% of Alabama voters didn't want to delete the racist language from their constitution. Alabama has a racism problem and it is statewide. That must be you. The fact that there was a vote on the subject shows there is not systemic racism and the fact that ONLY 25% voted against it backs that up. I don't see how this is hard to understand. A person has a right to be racist, bigoted just like anyone else has the right to believe what they want. They just cannot break any laws which protects a persons rights.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 4, 2023 10:09:07 GMT -5
Sure, there is no systemic racism in Alabama. They are just refusing to do what the Supreme Court ordered because they aren't racist. Unbelievable fairy tale world you live in. You couldn't show you true colors any better than the nonsense you just posted.
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Post by scgal on Oct 5, 2023 6:29:12 GMT -5
Sure, there is no systemic racism in Alabama. They are just refusing to do what the Supreme Court ordered because they aren't racist. Unbelievable fairy tale world you live in. You couldn't show you true colors any better than the nonsense you just posted. I don't know what your talking about please clarify.
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Artworks celebrating Black history in a Florida park have been vandalized, sparking an outcry among Tampa residents. Major Eric Defelice told the TV station: "I don't think there's any motive behind it." www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/outcry-as-black-history-murals-vandalized-in-florida-intentional/ar-AA1hJJrY?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=dd77e04d933e4f41914f3e0b4caedc01&ei=76 No systemic racism here folks, nothing to see. Move on.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 5, 2023 7:10:13 GMT -5
Sure, there is no systemic racism in Alabama. They are just refusing to do what the Supreme Court ordered because they aren't racist. Unbelievable fairy tale world you live in. You couldn't show you true colors any better than the nonsense you just posted. I don't know what your talking about please clarify. Not surprised you know nothing about this since Fox News probably didn’t cover it. I shouldn’t have to do your homework, you might learn something if you would try. After the census, Alabama did their gerrymandered redistributing. Court told them to redraw their map. Supreme Court did not overturn the ruling. Alabama redrew their map and admitted it did not conform to the ruling. They went back to court anyway. They have been ordered to redraw it again. Is it ok to defy the Supreme Court? I am sure you will enlighten us as to why this doesn’t count as systemic racism. I can’t wait to read your nonsense
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Post by scgal on Oct 5, 2023 7:33:37 GMT -5
I don't know what your talking about please clarify. Not surprised you know nothing about this since Fox News probably didn’t cover it. I shouldn’t have to do your homework, you might learn something if you would try. After the census, Alabama did their gerrymandered redistributing. Court told them to redraw their map. Supreme Court did not overturn the ruling. Alabama redrew their map and admitted it did not conform to the ruling. They went back to court anyway. They have been ordered to redraw it again. Is it ok to defy the Supreme Court? I am sure you will enlighten us as to why this doesn’t count as systemic racism. I can’t wait to read your nonsense It is not my job to try to figure out what you are saying. I looked up some articles and a news cast on this. Interesting what I see is a state trying to keep a stronghold on the republican vote and of course all democrats want to do is cry racism very childish. Now to the question is it ok to defy the supreme court NO. It will be interesting to see where it goes from here.
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Not surprised you know nothing about this since Fox News probably didn’t cover it. I shouldn’t have to do your homework, you might learn something if you would try. After the census, Alabama did their gerrymandered redistributing. Court told them to redraw their map. Supreme Court did not overturn the ruling. Alabama redrew their map and admitted it did not conform to the ruling. They went back to court anyway. They have been ordered to redraw it again. Is it ok to defy the Supreme Court? I am sure you will enlighten us as to why this doesn’t count as systemic racism. I can’t wait to read your nonsense It is not my job to try to figure out what you are saying. I looked up some articles and a news cast on this. Interesting what I see is a state trying to keep a stronghold on the republican vote and of course all democrats want to do is cry racism very childish. Now to the question is it ok to defy the supreme court NO. It will be interesting to see where it goes from here. I’ll type slower next time. This is all over the news. I mentioned Alabama in my post. If you are so poorly informed, it is not my problem. You are so far in the “there is no systemic racism” that you cannot even admit that a state defying the Supreme Court and violating the Voting Rights Act to prevent the election of a minority legislator is the definition of systemic racism
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Post by moon/Laura on Oct 5, 2023 20:30:01 GMT -5
if you looked up 'purposeful/willful' ignorance in a dictionary, scgal and ripvanwinkle's photos would both be under it as examples.
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Post by Opti on Oct 6, 2023 0:30:19 GMT -5
Not surprised you know nothing about this since Fox News probably didn’t cover it. I shouldn’t have to do your homework, you might learn something if you would try. After the census, Alabama did their gerrymandered redistributing. Court told them to redraw their map. Supreme Court did not overturn the ruling. Alabama redrew their map and admitted it did not conform to the ruling. They went back to court anyway. They have been ordered to redraw it again. Is it ok to defy the Supreme Court? I am sure you will enlighten us as to why this doesn’t count as systemic racism. I can’t wait to read your nonsense It is not my job to try to figure out what you are saying. I looked up some articles and a news cast on this. Interesting what I see is a state trying to keep a stronghold on the republican vote and of course all democrats want to do is cry racism very childish. Now to the question is it ok to defy the supreme court NO. It will be interesting to see where it goes from here. When GOPers do racist crap they should be called out for it. The fact that you believe there is basically no racism just some isolated racists here and there shows how out of touch from reality you are. I do blame RW media on this in addition to people like you who believe the spin as they seem ethically challenged to ever tell the truth if it makes their party or peeps look bad. Right now, they are actively blaming the Dems for Kevin McCarthy's departure instead of Matt Gaetz and his merry band of instigators. If Gaetz did not bring it to a vote, McCarthy would still be there. But the spin and denial is strong in the RW media. Surely part of the party can't be to blame for this mess, it must be someone else! Why McCarthy was so popular and the GOP so unified it only took 15 votes to get him his speaker role to begin with.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 4, 2023 21:10:13 GMT -5
You wrote the below on the The Official 2024 Presidential Thread. Your comment has nothing to do with the 2024 election. I know what I wrote. I don't like him because he's a doddering old fool.
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Post by happyhoix on Dec 4, 2023 22:02:37 GMT -5
I know what I wrote. I don't like him because he's a doddering old fool. That’s a good one. God bless the United sheesahhs.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 4, 2023 22:25:17 GMT -5
And now who is the "doddering old fool"?
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 5, 2023 0:31:00 GMT -5
what is not to dislike about Trump? i mean, really.
if he had ZERO aspirations for power, i could maybe laugh a him.
that is about it.
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Post by Opti on Dec 5, 2023 2:54:21 GMT -5
That’s a good one. God bless the United sheesahhs. I had forgotten the eternal Bing Bing Bong stuff.
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