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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Sept 25, 2023 13:41:58 GMT -5
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 25, 2023 13:45:33 GMT -5
The Daily Mail? Really? No one believes anything this rag puts out, even in the US. It's good entertainment, but not happening. and even if you could believe it - why TF would anyone believe what Ted Cruz has to say about the inner workings of the other party?   |
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 25, 2023 14:11:19 GMT -5
Why TF would Michelle want that job?
I remember the constant bitching when she was First Lady. How coarse it was to show your bare arms, or wear shorts coming back to the Wh from Camp David on the helicopter.
Camp David , which has the word ‘camp’ in the title.
I remember someone interviewing a Park Avenue woman after Trump won and she said she was so pleased the new First Lady would bring ‘class’ back to the position.
So a former model married to a wealthy white guy is ‘classy’ even though you can buy soft core porn movies featuring her naked and engaging in lesbian activities, while a successful lawyer married to a black guy is gauche.
Can’t imagine why Michelle would ever agree to run.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 25, 2023 14:22:49 GMT -5
Why TF would Michelle want that job? I remember the constant bitching when she was First Lady. How coarse it was to show your bare arms, or wear shorts coming back to the Wh from Camp David on the helicopter. Camp David , which has the word ‘camp’ in the title. I remember someone interviewing a Park Avenue woman after Trump won and she said she was so pleased the new First Lady would bring ‘class’ back to the position. So a former model married to a wealthy white guy is ‘classy’ even though you can buy soft core porn movies featuring her naked and engaging in lesbian activities, while a successful lawyer married to a black guy is gauche. Can’t imagine why Michelle would ever agree to run. She's said in her own autobiography she wouldn't do it again and is relieved her husband could only serve two terms. Being First Lady SUCKED in a lot of ways especially as the first African American First Lady. As evidenced by the above. She has no desire to ever serve in any kind of office like that again. Quite the elaborate cover-up. Luring us into a false sense of security with her autobiography only to spring on us that she was planning to run as president all along.  |
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 25, 2023 14:27:24 GMT -5
Why TF would Michelle want that job? I remember the constant bitching when she was First Lady. How coarse it was to show your bare arms, or wear shorts coming back to the Wh from Camp David on the helicopter. Camp David , which has the word ‘camp’ in the title. I remember someone interviewing a Park Avenue woman after Trump won and she said she was so pleased the new First Lady would bring ‘class’ back to the position. So a former model married to a wealthy white guy is ‘classy’ even though you can buy soft core porn movies featuring her naked and engaging in lesbian activities, while a successful lawyer married to a black guy is gauche. Can’t imagine why Michelle would ever agree to run. I remember this, and I pointed to it as a horseshit double standard when Press Secretary Kaylie McEnany (sp?) hit the podium at press conferences in spaghetti straps multiple days in a row. why was it so offensive for the First Lady, who wasn't even actually working, to bare her arms, but it's okay for a young blond white Republican woman to do the same while she's actually on the job? |
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Post by hurley1980 on Sept 25, 2023 15:25:11 GMT -5
Why TF would Michelle want that job? I remember the constant bitching when she was First Lady. How coarse it was to show your bare arms, or wear shorts coming back to the Wh from Camp David on the helicopter. Camp David , which has the word ‘camp’ in the title. I remember someone interviewing a Park Avenue woman after Trump won and she said she was so pleased the new First Lady would bring ‘class’ back to the position. So a former model married to a wealthy white guy is ‘classy’ even though you can buy soft core porn movies featuring her naked and engaging in lesbian activities, while a successful lawyer married to a black guy is gauche. Can’t imagine why Michelle would ever agree to run. Because apparently bare arms of a black lady is SUPER OFFENSIVE, but a completely nude white lady is SUPER CLASSY! /S  The world turned upside down.... |
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Post by Spellbound454 on Sept 25, 2023 16:26:26 GMT -5
Well, please yourself. She was well thought of, over here. It does show that some people in the party may be thinking more broadly. |
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 25, 2023 16:29:18 GMT -5
Well, please yourself. She was well thought of, over here. It does show that some people in the party may be thinking more broadly. k. well, she isn't actually the problem in your post, it's your source. so maybe go back and explore why we'd be laughing about the Daily Mail quoting Ted Cruz. |
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Post by Spellbound454 on Sept 25, 2023 16:31:06 GMT -5
Its on lots of sources Chiver.
Just a rumour, like I said.
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 25, 2023 16:34:45 GMT -5
but again, see my post from earlier - why TF would anyone believe what Ted Cruz has to say about the inner workings of the party he's not in. sounds more like you agree with it than "just a rumour" but hey, what do I know? I just live here. I don't post on political boards from other countries, you do you, though. |
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 25, 2023 21:03:42 GMT -5
Well, please yourself. She was well thought of, over here. It does show that some people in the party may be thinking more broadly. I wish she would run. The unfortunate part of monarchy’s is that sometimes you get stuck with an unfortunate genetic dice roll, and the unfortunate part of our democracy is that the really qualified, public minded people chose not to run due to the circus that makes of your life. I used to hope Colin Powell would run as a Republican. He always struck me as a calm, dedicated public servant. Unfortunately his wife didn’t want him to, because they were black and she was terrified he would be assassinated. It’s a shame because I think he would have done well for us. Instead, it’s usually someone who’s a bit narcissistic who is willing to run (or really narcissistic). It’s the best we can do until the AI overlords seize power. |
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We don't live in a free society. We live in America where freedom of speech is protected but enforced differently throughout the history of America. Do you think slaves were given the freedom of speech to diss their masters or whites in general while enslaved? Racism and slaveholding existed together in many years ago which did not stop plantation owners from using slave labor. Sexists and Racists employ those they think less of, just employing women or non whites does not make them upstanding citizens. Yes many black Americans are doing better than I am now economically. That does not mean racism does not still exist. I think you confuse that fact with the different day to day experience of many non-white people in America. If you are going to give racists a pass because of free speech, why are you not giving the same pass to POC for sharing their experiences of life in America? You don't live a life where people cross the street or avoid you simply because of how you look. So I think you don't get how wearing that can be. I hate the fact some men feel entitled to encroach on my space when I am at my job. Its more annoying when we are in periods of Covid. It gets old and I would guess andi notices it more and more on days it happens too much. That's human, not being a victim like you like to cast it as. Sure we do. This is where so many people get it wrong. We live in a society where all men are created equal. It took a long time for the idea to actually mean ALL. Because of racism and discrimination our Country has laws that make this happen. Now with all that said to live a free society the same laws that protect poc, women etc...also give the right to someone or anyone to be a racist or to dislike someone for any reason. That is why I say if someone don't want to walk on the same street as a poc oh well that is the person is crossing issue but they have that right. You cannot have it one way without the other.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 26, 2023 2:50:00 GMT -5
again, Biden will outlive Trump. mark my words. In the event if all you guys are wrong and Biden does go first I will dig all this up and have a big laugh bringing it up in every post I can until I'm banned i find the evidence of cognitive impairment indistinguishable between these two men. i only know that Biden is healthier, and that usually extends to general mental fitness, as well. yes, and please, go right ahead. i didn't lay that out there for nothing, scgal. i would give Biden an 80% chance of outliving Trump. which was better than his chance of beating him in the last election. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 26, 2023 2:53:38 GMT -5
Why TF would Michelle want that job? I remember the constant bitching when she was First Lady. How coarse it was to show your bare arms, . yes. what happened to our right to bare arms?  |
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Post by Opti on Sept 26, 2023 6:34:36 GMT -5
Mentioning Barack or Michelle Obama is a dog whistle for their side to get them to vote GOP. It has no basis in reality and the "rumor" was shopped around in 2020 and possibly even 2016. |
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Post by tbop77 on Sept 26, 2023 7:23:42 GMT -5
Mentioning Barack or Michelle Obama is a dog whistle for their side to get them to vote GOP. It has no basis in reality and the "rumor" was shopped around in 2020 and possibly even 2016. Well, since Obama is running the country now, it would be easier for him and the deep state to have Michelle as president. |
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We don't live in a free society. We live in America where freedom of speech is protected but enforced differently throughout the history of America. Do you think slaves were given the freedom of speech to diss their masters or whites in general while enslaved? Racism and slaveholding existed together in many years ago which did not stop plantation owners from using slave labor. Sexists and Racists employ those they think less of, just employing women or non whites does not make them upstanding citizens. Yes many black Americans are doing better than I am now economically. That does not mean racism does not still exist. I think you confuse that fact with the different day to day experience of many non-white people in America. If you are going to give racists a pass because of free speech, why are you not giving the same pass to POC for sharing their experiences of life in America? You don't live a life where people cross the street or avoid you simply because of how you look. So I think you don't get how wearing that can be. I hate the fact some men feel entitled to encroach on my space when I am at my job. Its more annoying when we are in periods of Covid. It gets old and I would guess andi notices it more and more on days it happens too much. That's human, not being a victim like you like to cast it as. Sure we do. This is where so many people get it wrong. We live in a society where all men are created equal. It took a long time for the idea to actually mean ALL. Because of racism and discrimination our Country has laws that make this happen. Now with all that said to live a free society the same laws that protect poc, women etc...also give the right to someone or anyone to be a racist or to dislike someone for any reason. That is why I say if someone don't want to walk on the same street as a poc oh well that is the person is crossing issue but they have that right. You cannot have it one way without the other. All men are not equal. In other countries they are, but not in the US. If you can't/refuse to see that, you're part of the problem. |
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 26, 2023 9:34:54 GMT -5
Nah Michelle Obama is the dog whistle for his racist base. OMG an African American woman! And what is worse she's the wife of the former African American president that EVERYONE knows isn't an American citizen! So she's a strong independent African American woman married to an illegal alien! If that doesn't make racist Republicans shit their pants and rush to vote for Trump IDK what will. |
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scgal : If the thread title below and through out the article replaced Black with Liberal or Democratic Party you might have a point (racism in the country no longer exists). But there does seem to be a real racism problem in the state of Alabama. Racism is alive and well in the South. And the South is part of the United States. Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black districtWASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Tuesday handed a defeat to Alabama Republicans for the second time in three months, rejecting their latest attempt to use a congressional map that includes only one majority-Black district. The court in two related applications refused emergency requests from Republican state officials to block lower court rulings that invalidated the new map. Lower court proceedings to approve a new map are still ongoing. The decision was in line with the Supreme Court ruling against the state in June that reaffirmed a key provision of the landmark Voting Rights Act. There were no noted dissenting votes and the court did not explain its reasoning. The Supreme Court's earlier ruling forced the state back to the drawing board. But the new map — like the previous one — includes only one district where Black voters are likely to be able to elect a candidate of their choosing. Alabama has seven congressional districts, and 27% of the state's population is Black. The new map was thrown out in two different lower court rulings, with the judges saying an additional minority-Black district was required, in line with the Supreme Court's June ruling. “We are not aware of any other case in which a state legislature — faced with a federal court order declaring that its electoral plan unlawfully dilutes minority votes and requiring a plan that provides an additional opportunity district — responded with a plan that the state concedes does not provide that district," one of the court rulings said. Rest of article here: Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black district
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Post by giramomma on Sept 26, 2023 11:08:56 GMT -5
Here is a good story for you. There is a kids' organization in town, extracurricular activity type that leans towards white, upper middle class/wealthy population. One day, a very white board member of the organization noticed a family of black, African kids were part of the the organization. (The family was from Niger or Nigeria, I have forgotten). The very white board member took it upon themselves to buy the African kids winter coats, and give it to the kids the next time they saw this family. As it turns out, this African family was not poor. Both parents were in the medical profession, one was a doctor. The African parents made enough money to buy their children proper winter clothing. So. I'll make this really simple for you. White person assumes black person is poor based on color of skin. White person decides to fix a problem that doesn't need fixing. Does not even bother consulting with anyone to see if the black family is poor or not.
Racism.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Sept 26, 2023 11:44:39 GMT -5
Why TF would Michelle want that job? I remember the constant bitching when she was First Lady. How coarse it was to show your bare arms, or wear shorts coming back to the Wh from Camp David on the helicopter. Camp David , which has the word ‘camp’ in the title. I remember someone interviewing a Park Avenue woman after Trump won and she said she was so pleased the new First Lady would bring ‘class’ back to the position. So a former model married to a wealthy white guy is ‘classy’ even though you can buy soft core porn movies featuring her naked and engaging in lesbian activities, while a successful lawyer married to a black guy is gauche. Can’t imagine why Michelle would ever agree to run. Because apparently bare arms of a black lady is SUPER OFFENSIVE, but a completely nude white lady is SUPER CLASSY! /S The world turned upside down.... Especially the arms of an incredibly buff black woman. I'd kill for her arms! |
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Sept 26, 2023 11:49:53 GMT -5
Its on lots of sources Chiver. Just a rumour, like I said. So why do you try to make a rumor credible by reposting it? Sarah Palin isn't credible, the Daily News isn't credible. Neither is the NY Post. Michelle Obama has said repeatedly she'd never run for President. I'd believe her over any of the current rumors, even though I think she'd make a phenomenal candidate. However, considering the amount of bullshit she had to put up with just being First Lady, I understand why she has absolutely no interest in living in that fishbowl again. |
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Sept 26, 2023 11:56:34 GMT -5
Well, please yourself. She was well thought of, over here. It does show that some people in the party may be thinking more broadly. Just because someone is well thought of doesn't mean that they have to subject themselves to something that made their life a living hell. That's the beauty of things, in the US there is no one to force you to be head of something if you don't want to be. You can choose to walk away and live your own life on your own terms. Sound familiar? Do I wish she'd run? Absolutely. However, unless you saw the racist bullshit that she (and her daughters) had to put up with, you cannot understand why people totally understand why one would choose not to subject themselves to that again in their life. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 26, 2023 15:50:29 GMT -5
scgal : If the thread title below and through out the article replaced Black with Liberal or Democratic Party you might have a point (racism in the country no longer exists). But there does seem to be a real racism problem in the state of Alabama. Racism is alive and well in the South. And the South is part of the United States. Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black districtWASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Tuesday handed a defeat to Alabama Republicans for the second time in three months, rejecting their latest attempt to use a congressional map that includes only one majority-Black district. The court in two related applications refused emergency requests from Republican state officials to block lower court rulings that invalidated the new map. Lower court proceedings to approve a new map are still ongoing. The decision was in line with the Supreme Court ruling against the state in June that reaffirmed a key provision of the landmark Voting Rights Act. There were no noted dissenting votes and the court did not explain its reasoning. The Supreme Court's earlier ruling forced the state back to the drawing board. But the new map — like the previous one — includes only one district where Black voters are likely to be able to elect a candidate of their choosing. Alabama has seven congressional districts, and 27% of the state's population is Black. The new map was thrown out in two different lower court rulings, with the judges saying an additional minority-Black district was required, in line with the Supreme Court's June ruling. “We are not aware of any other case in which a state legislature — faced with a federal court order declaring that its electoral plan unlawfully dilutes minority votes and requiring a plan that provides an additional opportunity district — responded with a plan that the state concedes does not provide that district," one of the court rulings said. Rest of article here: Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black district Tenn- i have been trying to figure out what the REMEDY for this is. i mean, ok, they can't do this. but they keep doing it. who will stop them? |
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scgal : If the thread title below and through out the article replaced Black with Liberal or Democratic Party you might have a point (racism in the country no longer exists). But there does seem to be a real racism problem in the state of Alabama. Racism is alive and well in the South. And the South is part of the United States. Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black districtWASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Tuesday handed a defeat to Alabama Republicans for the second time in three months, rejecting their latest attempt to use a congressional map that includes only one majority-Black district. The court in two related applications refused emergency requests from Republican state officials to block lower court rulings that invalidated the new map. Lower court proceedings to approve a new map are still ongoing. The decision was in line with the Supreme Court ruling against the state in June that reaffirmed a key provision of the landmark Voting Rights Act. There were no noted dissenting votes and the court did not explain its reasoning. The Supreme Court's earlier ruling forced the state back to the drawing board. But the new map — like the previous one — includes only one district where Black voters are likely to be able to elect a candidate of their choosing. Alabama has seven congressional districts, and 27% of the state's population is Black. The new map was thrown out in two different lower court rulings, with the judges saying an additional minority-Black district was required, in line with the Supreme Court's June ruling. “We are not aware of any other case in which a state legislature — faced with a federal court order declaring that its electoral plan unlawfully dilutes minority votes and requiring a plan that provides an additional opportunity district — responded with a plan that the state concedes does not provide that district," one of the court rulings said. Rest of article here: Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black district Tenn- i have been trying to figure out what the REMEDY for this is. i mean, ok, they can't do this. but they keep doing it. who will stop them? A court-appointed special master offered three proposals on Monday to boost the Black voting-age population in a reconfigured Alabama congressional district – the latest development in a closely watched redistricting case with implications for control of the US House of Representatives after next year’s elections.
The maps drafted by special master Richard Allen and his team were submitted to a three-judge panel that is drawing new congressional lines in Alabama ...
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Sure we do. This is where so many people get it wrong. We live in a society where all men are created equal. It took a long time for the idea to actually mean ALL. Because of racism and discrimination our Country has laws that make this happen. Now with all that said to live a free society the same laws that protect poc, women etc...also give the right to someone or anyone to be a racist or to dislike someone for any reason. That is why I say if someone don't want to walk on the same street as a poc oh well that is the person is crossing issue but they have that right. You cannot have it one way without the other.
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scgal : If the thread title below and through out the article replaced Black with Liberal or Democratic Party you might have a point (racism in the country no longer exists). But there does seem to be a real racism problem in the state of Alabama. Racism is alive and well in the South. And the South is part of the United States. Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black districtWASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Tuesday handed a defeat to Alabama Republicans for the second time in three months, rejecting their latest attempt to use a congressional map that includes only one majority-Black district. The court in two related applications refused emergency requests from Republican state officials to block lower court rulings that invalidated the new map. Lower court proceedings to approve a new map are still ongoing. The decision was in line with the Supreme Court ruling against the state in June that reaffirmed a key provision of the landmark Voting Rights Act. There were no noted dissenting votes and the court did not explain its reasoning. The Supreme Court's earlier ruling forced the state back to the drawing board. But the new map — like the previous one — includes only one district where Black voters are likely to be able to elect a candidate of their choosing. Alabama has seven congressional districts, and 27% of the state's population is Black. The new map was thrown out in two different lower court rulings, with the judges saying an additional minority-Black district was required, in line with the Supreme Court's June ruling. “We are not aware of any other case in which a state legislature — faced with a federal court order declaring that its electoral plan unlawfully dilutes minority votes and requiring a plan that provides an additional opportunity district — responded with a plan that the state concedes does not provide that district," one of the court rulings said. Rest of article here: Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black district I never said there isn't racism I said we don't live in a racist society we have laws that protect people from racist and that is the best that can happen. Since there are laws there is no way that the racism that is here can be systemic. |
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scgal : If the thread title below and through out the article replaced Black with Liberal or Democratic Party you might have a point (racism in the country no longer exists). But there does seem to be a real racism problem in the state of Alabama. Racism is alive and well in the South. And the South is part of the United States. Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black districtWASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Tuesday handed a defeat to Alabama Republicans for the second time in three months, rejecting their latest attempt to use a congressional map that includes only one majority-Black district. The court in two related applications refused emergency requests from Republican state officials to block lower court rulings that invalidated the new map. Lower court proceedings to approve a new map are still ongoing. The decision was in line with the Supreme Court ruling against the state in June that reaffirmed a key provision of the landmark Voting Rights Act. There were no noted dissenting votes and the court did not explain its reasoning. The Supreme Court's earlier ruling forced the state back to the drawing board. But the new map — like the previous one — includes only one district where Black voters are likely to be able to elect a candidate of their choosing. Alabama has seven congressional districts, and 27% of the state's population is Black. The new map was thrown out in two different lower court rulings, with the judges saying an additional minority-Black district was required, in line with the Supreme Court's June ruling. “We are not aware of any other case in which a state legislature — faced with a federal court order declaring that its electoral plan unlawfully dilutes minority votes and requiring a plan that provides an additional opportunity district — responded with a plan that the state concedes does not provide that district," one of the court rulings said. Rest of article here: Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black district I never said there isn't racism I said we don't live in a racist society we have laws that protect people from racist and that is the best that can happen. Since there are laws there is no way that the racism that is here can be systemic. It's like saying there can't be any speeding because there are laws. There are many more systems in RL than just laws. For example, Domino's drivers might speed more than other delivery drivers if they are graded on delivery time and have significant penalties if they miss the promised delivery time. |
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