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Post by bookkeeper on Apr 30, 2020 15:39:04 GMT -5
We stocked up on meat as well. Petite sirloins were on sale and I got some hamburger. Whole ribeye roll was on sale for $6.99/lb. so we grabbed one as well. We expect supply to continue, but pricing will probably be higher.
A family with teenagers who are now eating every meal at home could go through $500 worth of meat in 2 months easy. Proper food storage insures the money you paid for food is not wasted. Enter the vacuum sealer. I own one at each of our homes and have given them to people as gifts. We buy meat in bulk and portion up at home. The meat that is frozen in a vacuum bag will last a year easily in your freezer. The other option is to wrap the meat in poly wrap and then in butcher paper. The double wrap is also very effective in preserving frozen meat quality.
I worked in the beef industry for 12 years. I predict the packing plant disruptions from Covid is going to mess with price and supply for some time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2020 16:06:50 GMT -5
I worked in the beef industry for 12 years. I predict the packing plant disruptions from Covid is going to mess with price and supply for some time. Do you have any thoughts about dog food since it's made from processing waste?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2020 16:22:38 GMT -5
I don't want thousands of dollars of food lying around the house or waste, but I also think it's important right now to be self-sufficient. I'm also seeing prices going up, so stocking up a bit now saves money over time. will you be planting a veggie garden at the new place? While I assume you were being sarcastic, what I meant by self-sufficient was being able to lock the front door and feed ourselves for a couple of months without having to shop or rely on any local resource. Our nearest town is 130 miles away and there are only 4K residents here. Everything is trucked in and always somewhat limited. During normal times, many people shop in the larger cities when they go there for medical care, etc... Right now, everyone is shopping here and we also still have tons of tourists coming through in their RVs stopping and shopping as well. I have a very short growing season in the high desert and an over-abundance of wildlife. I grow onions in my window, but no, I won't ever have a large garden. However, my property has 5 fruit trees that are healthy and I hear supply this part of my block with ample fruit later in the year if we all collectively fight off the deer and birds.
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Post by Tiny on Apr 30, 2020 16:23:34 GMT -5
I worked in the beef industry for 12 years. I predict the packing plant disruptions from Covid is going to mess with price and supply for some time. Do you have any thoughts about dog food since it's made from processing waste? And cat food... I've got a 3 month supply of canned and 6 week supply of kibble. hmmm.. I might go search out another bag of kibble.
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Post by movingforward on Apr 30, 2020 16:28:48 GMT -5
Do you have any thoughts about dog food since it's made from processing waste? And cat food... I've got a 3 month supply of canned and 6 week supply of kibble. hmmm.. I might go search out another bag of kibble. Same here...I still worry about the cat more than myself. He is on a special gastro diet. I am not a picky eater. I can survive on limited choices...well, as long as I have cookies
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2020 16:35:04 GMT -5
Do you have any thoughts about dog food since it's made from processing waste? And cat food... I've got a 3 month supply of canned and 6 week supply of kibble. hmmm.. I might go search out another bag of kibble. When everyone cleared out the TP, my local dog food supply also dried up. After they started getting my dog's food in stock, I started buying a bag each time I shopped. I have a few at this point and won't buy anymore until he uses one up. I also bought an extra bottle of the glucosamine he takes for his joints. It helps him a lot and I would hate it if we couldn't get it. DS really, really wants to get a cat. Feeding it and litter is a concern for me. My dog will eat nearly anything but cats are a bit different.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Apr 30, 2020 16:41:57 GMT -5
will you be planting a veggie garden at the new place? While I assume you were being sarcastic, what I meant by self-sufficient was being able to lock the front door and feed ourselves for a couple of months without having to shop or rely on any local resource. Our nearest town is 130 miles away and there are only 4K residents here. Everything is trucked in and always somewhat limited. During normal times, many people shop in the larger cities when they go there for medical care, etc... Right now, everyone is shopping here and we also still have tons of tourists coming through in their RVs stopping and shopping as well. I have a very short growing season in the high desert and an over-abundance of wildlife. I grow onions in my window, but no, I won't ever have a large garden. However, my property has 5 fruit trees that are healthy and I hear supply this part of my block with ample fruit later in the year if we all collectively fight off the deer and birds. oh - I wasn't being sarcastic at all and apologize if it came across that way. When I think self sufficient - I immediate think about homesteading and that kind of thing. I used to do quite a bit of veggies, but got too busy last few years. I've been trying to plant some foodstuffs in the yard this year just in case, but so far not a lot of luck - I do have some lentils coming up. I'm not sure if the garden even has a hope of being a success without mr. puppy - who pasted away a few years ago. He was diligent about keeping out critters who want to help themselves. I have thought about getting another dog - but have 2 cats right now and not sure how many I am able to feed. my plan was to retire and travel extensively before getting more pets. But mr. puppy passed away unexpected early - I was counting on another 10 years at least - and the 2 cats were strays in trouble so took them in. Who knows what will happen with travel in the future? So thinking of a dog to round things out, help with garden protections, and maybe house protections too.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Apr 30, 2020 18:21:43 GMT -5
People would be out in their yards scooping up and hoarding dog shit if the media said there was going to be a shortage. This has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever read on these boards. I’ll try to top it next month.
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Post by oped on Apr 30, 2020 18:28:23 GMT -5
I'm seriously planting full every space I can. If I don't need it... oh well. Better than if I need it and don't have it... can't really grow overnight.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Apr 30, 2020 19:30:37 GMT -5
DH went to Costco today. They had a limit of three meat items per customer. That’s OK with me.
I really feel for the plight of the meat packing workers. Being ordered back to work in unsafe conditions wirh no precautions, no PPE and if they get sick or die no recourse since trump signed an EO stating that the meat packing companies would be free of liability.
I’m seriously considering becoming a vegetarian
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2020 19:32:18 GMT -5
My sister is coming in July, and she makes great sausage balls. I told her to tell me what to buy because I wanted to make sure we had the sausage. Then I went home and organized my freezer thanks to Blonde Granny's previous post on another thread. I have A LOT of food including meat. And I have a lot of frozen leftovers like soup, spaghetti sauce, peas, etc. I am not going to starve. The thing is that you can use less meat in a lot of dishes with no loss. I use 1/2 pound of hamburger in my chili or else make a double batch. I do the same thing with spaghetti sauce. If you look at frozen dinners (you don't have to eat them!), they only have small portions of meat and large portions of stuff like veggies and rice. It is the rising prices that scare me more than the scarcity. Winn Dixie had 2 ribeyes for $22. I am used to more like the $15-18 range at Publix, which has really good meat. I think meat will be there although I bought the sausage she needs and bacon because we both like BLTs. I don't know if I will be able to afford it.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 30, 2020 19:47:30 GMT -5
DH went to Costco today. They had a limit of three meat items per customer. That’s OK with me. I really feel for the plight of the meat packing workers. Being ordered back to work in unsafe conditions wirh no precautions, no PPE and if they get sick or die no recourse since trump signed an EO stating that the meat packing companies would be free of liability. I’m seriously considering becoming a vegetarian Me too. I started slowing down our meat consumption then got lazy again. We don't need a giant mutant chicken breast for each person. Butterflied I can get four filets out of two of the things. This country didn't always consume meat in the massive amounts we do now. All of us on here adjust and survive. The planet will be better off too. My concern is small restaurants like ours. They are already hurting and rising prices aren't going to help. What a shitty spot to be in. Will people still show up if you have to raise prices to make ends meet? That and people who live in food deserts. Local food banks and farms can only.do.so much. If only there was a handbook that walked the government through a hypothetical pandemic. It probably contained information on supply chains.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 30, 2020 20:37:50 GMT -5
DH went to Costco today. They had a limit of three meat items per customer. That’s OK with me. I really feel for the plight of the meat packing workers. Being ordered back to work in unsafe conditions wirh no precautions, no PPE and if they get sick or die no recourse since trump signed an EO stating that the meat packing companies would be free of liability. I’m seriously considering becoming a vegetarian Me too. I started slowing down our meat consumption then got lazy again. We don't need a giant mutant chicken breast for each person. Butterflied I can get four filets out of two of the things. This country didn't always consume meat in the massive amounts we do now. All of us on here adjust and survive. The planet will be better off too. My concern is small restaurants like ours. They are already hurting and rising prices aren't going to help. What a shitty spot to be in. Will people still show up if you have to raise prices to make ends meet? That and people who live in food deserts. Local food banks and farms can only.do.so much. If only there was a handbook that walked the government through a hypothetical pandemic. It probably contained information on supply chains. They did a simulation of this exact scenario last year, not sure how far into the economics they we went
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Post by formerroomate99 on May 1, 2020 1:48:14 GMT -5
DH went to Costco today. They had a limit of three meat items per customer. That’s OK with me. I really feel for the plight of the meat packing workers. Being ordered back to work in unsafe conditions wirh no precautions, no PPE and if they get sick or die no recourse since trump signed an EO stating that the meat packing companies would be free of liability. I’m seriously considering becoming a vegetarian Wow, you've got a point there.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2020 6:32:35 GMT -5
DH went to Costco today. They had a limit of three meat items per customer. That’s OK with me. I really feel for the plight of the meat packing workers. Being ordered back to work in unsafe conditions wirh no precautions, no PPE and if they get sick or die no recourse since trump signed an EO stating that the meat packing companies would be free of liability. A few days ago I got Costco's usual monthly mailer with "deals". -Wagyu rib-eye steaks, 2-13 oz. steaks, $449.99 plus shipping and handline- $150 off original price. -Kobe NY Strip steaks- same as above. -Organic grass-fed NY Strip Steaks- 14-pack of 12 oz. each- $149.99 after $40 off. No limits. Seriously- although these prices are crazy I'm betting the animals were raised and slaughtered in humane conditions and not packed by overworked employees working elbow-to-elbow in places like Smithfield. A coworker told me years ago that his teenage daughter became a vegetarian after visiting a meatpacking plant ton a school field trip. The thing is that you can use less meat in a lot of dishes with no loss. I use 1/2 pound of hamburger in my chili or else make a double batch. I do the same thing with spaghetti sauce. If you look at frozen dinners (you don't have to eat them!), they only have small portions of meat and large portions of stuff like veggies and rice. It is the rising prices that scare me more than the scarcity. Winn Dixie had 2 ribeyes for $22. I am used to more like the $15-18 range at Publix, which has really good meat. This. I haven't had a steak or a pork chop in years. To me, meat is something that gets chopped up and added to veggies for dinner once a week. I cut way back to lower my cholesterol without meds. So far it doesn't seem to have affected my health and I honestly don't miss it. When I was a kid, steak was something we got when Mom and Dad were going out to dinner. It was a T-Bone split among 5 kids. I was surprised the first time I saw someone eating an entire steak. Maybe we need to eat less meat but raised and packed under humane conditions. And another heads-up on this subject: McDonald's, which sources their meat from places like Smithfield and, in anticipation of shortages, has told its franchisees that HQ would now determined what to ship them based on past patterns, not based on what the franchisees requested. But, they say, there won't be shortages.
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Post by bookkeeper on May 1, 2020 7:48:56 GMT -5
Do you have any thoughts about dog food since it's made from processing waste? And cat food... I've got a 3 month supply of canned and 6 week supply of kibble. hmmm.. I might go search out another bag of kibble. I worked in Nebraska, so I can't comment on other parts of the country. The dog food plants I knew about got their supply from the rendering trucks (cattle that died in the feedlot before slaughter). I was not aware of any dog food made from the packing plant offal. The beef parts that do not make it into steaks and burger are often purchased by other food manufacturers. Think all beef hotdogs and those cheap pressed hamburger patties. The blood and hide is saved and manufactured later into rose food and shoes. Nothing is wasted. Cat food is often more fish and chicken or corn based. I am guessing that is made from fish and chicken which is not fit for human consumption. There is never a shortage of dead cattle for the rendering truck. But if the dog food factory workers get sick like the packing plant workers, no one will be available to make the kibble. I would stock up if I had a pet, especially if they require one certain kind of food. Be sure to store it in a pest proof container. You don't want a mouse infestation to go along with your pandemic.
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Post by bookkeeper on May 1, 2020 8:03:41 GMT -5
As an aside, while working at the feed yard I saw a virus rage through a pen of cattle. They looked healthy enough when they arrived, but within a week 10% were dead. Within two weeks, 25% of those cattle were dead. The ones that lived never did gain very well. We figured one or two head contracted a virus at the sale barn and it exploded once the cattle were on the truck coming to Nebraska. I have seen it happen in cattle, it's horrible. I can only imagine what it looks like with people.
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Post by thyme4change on May 1, 2020 9:10:07 GMT -5
And cat food... I've got a 3 month supply of canned and 6 week supply of kibble. hmmm.. I might go search out another bag of kibble. When everyone cleared out the TP, my local dog food supply also dried up. After they started getting my dog's food in stock, I started buying a bag each time I shopped. I have a few at this point and won't buy anymore until he uses one up. I also bought an extra bottle of the glucosamine he takes for his joints. It helps him a lot and I would hate it if we couldn't get it. DS really, really wants to get a cat. Feeding it and litter is a concern for me. My dog will eat nearly anything but cats are a bit different. Cats become more flexible when they are starving. They won't just die because you can't buy the exact brand they are used to. If they were that picky, feral cats wouldn't exist.
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Post by justme on May 1, 2020 9:29:43 GMT -5
I have a lot of meat. Like if I don't eat it for lunch I have at least 30 dinners worth of meat. A lot of it is freaking chicken though - couldn't find any smaller packets of meat.
A store I prefer to buy my food from stocks as much as they can from local farms, but if they can't then it's still pretty much farm to store. The store cuts all the meat there. And so far they've been pretty good about always having stock - only when I went in mid March were they running low of chicken on the shelf. It's known but not super well known. I hope they'll be able to keep their meat stock up since their source is different than others.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 1, 2020 9:34:50 GMT -5
As an aside, while working at the feed yard I saw a virus rage through a pen of cattle. They looked healthy enough when they arrived, but within a week 10% were dead. Within two weeks, 25% of those cattle were dead. The ones that lived never did gain very well. We figured one or two head contracted a virus at the sale barn and it exploded once the cattle were on the truck coming to Nebraska. I have seen it happen in cattle, it's horrible. I can only imagine what it looks like with people. We were talking about this at work. I think our workload is going to rapidly dry up in the next few weeks. Farmers are not going to shell out for medication to treat animals they won't be able to sell and are going to have to euthanize anyhow. It's cheaper to let nature take it's course.
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Post by TheOtherMe on May 1, 2020 10:25:13 GMT -5
BIL sold two loads of hogs on Monday and Tuesday. He has not decided when he is going to get new baby pigs. He said until he feels comfortable there will be a market, he isn't getting in new pigs.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 1, 2020 12:18:15 GMT -5
Just got back from the grocery store and got pretty much everything I set out to buy (except barley). Meats were not really in short supply that I saw.
I pretty much bought like I always do, chicken thighs, shrimp, tri tip and only because they were on sale for an excellent price, NY strips.
With what I have in the freezer, we are good for a month. The only thing I want to pick up is some pork tenderloin, but the price is better at Costco.
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 1, 2020 12:33:53 GMT -5
I went to BJ'a this morning. Chicken was in short supply. Plenty of beef and pork. However, they are limiting it to 1 pork product, 1 beef product and 1 chicken product. I understand they are trying to stop hoarding. It's going to result in people having to shop more frequently though.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on May 1, 2020 15:35:54 GMT -5
I went to the store this morning for our weekly shopping and there was plenty of meat. I did stock up.
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Post by Tiny on May 1, 2020 16:04:34 GMT -5
When everyone cleared out the TP, my local dog food supply also dried up. After they started getting my dog's food in stock, I started buying a bag each time I shopped. I have a few at this point and won't buy anymore until he uses one up. I also bought an extra bottle of the glucosamine he takes for his joints. It helps him a lot and I would hate it if we couldn't get it. DS really, really wants to get a cat. Feeding it and litter is a concern for me. My dog will eat nearly anything but cats are a bit different. Cats become more flexible when they are starving. They won't just die because you can't buy the exact brand they are used to. If they were that picky, feral cats wouldn't exist. Yes. I tend to agree with that (that a cat will eat what's available). But I've got 2 elderly cats with digestive issues. Too much grain or the wrong grain (or fish meal or beef by products) in the kibble/canned cat food and I got cats crying and restless (cause they are in pain/gas/whatever it is they are feeling) and puking and explosive diarrhea. And enough days of that and they stop eating (and it's really hard to get them to start eating again- cause they feel crappy. And I can't up their medication to deal with the added inflamation from the grain (or fish meal or beef by-products) Well, I can up the medication, but it has the potential to mess with their kidneys (which are currently boardline ok for elderly cats) and it might not make them feel well enough to keep eating. I know they are old and will eventually die. But right now they are doing fine on the food/medications. I don't want them to suffer and die because I was forced to feed them food I KNOW is a problem. And to LifeParttwo - I haven't had issues with any of my 'second hand' cats refusing to eat their kibble (or canned food treats) when they didn't have health issues (like a rotting tooth or my current cats digestive issues). I did have a cat that insisted on "people food" but who would still eat his kibble. it took months for him to learn to keep him away from my plate (and a little help from the Iron Paw who had had enough of me scolding him and smacked/slammed his little hard head into the table - I swear I saw the little birds going around his head while he looked dazed and confused - he might have gotten a concussion from that swat. after that he stayed away from my plate and would beg from a safe distance.). I would imagine dealing with an elderly cat is not unlike dealing with an elderly dog when it comes to what they will/can and will not/cannot eat.
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Post by Tiny on May 1, 2020 16:14:13 GMT -5
FWIW: I found and ordered for pickup another bag of the kibble the cats eat. I was out grocery shopping and picked up another tray of chicken thighs for the freezer (i cook them for the cats - they get about 2 ounces of cooked chicken every day. sometimes I make them broth with the bones and some cat safe veggies). I've got plenty of food for me and the cats (atleast 8 weeks) so I'm not bothering to add more to the pantry or freezer even though I have room. I'm glad I'm a flexitarian. I've got plenty of yummy veg/vegan meals I can make And some frozen meat (a couple of home made hamburgers, chicken breasts,salmon, and a 14pound Turkey) I can add to a recipe for a change up. OK, the Turkey will be a challenge to use up if I'm not hosting a party - but I'm thinking I can put it on the spit in the yard and make a rotissierre turkey to share with family/friends later this spring or early summer.
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Post by thyme4change on May 1, 2020 16:14:24 GMT -5
Cats become more flexible when they are starving. They won't just die because you can't buy the exact brand they are used to. If they were that picky, feral cats wouldn't exist. Yes. I tend to agree with that (that a cat will eat what's available). But I've got 2 elderly cats with digestive issues. Too much grain or the wrong grain (or fish meal or beef by products) in the kibble/canned cat food and I got cats crying and restless (cause they are in pain/gas/whatever it is they are feeling) and puking and explosive diarrhea. And enough days of that and they stop eating (and it's really hard to get them to start eating again- cause they feel crappy. And I can't up their medication to deal with the added inflamation from the grain (or fish meal or beef by-products) Well, I can up the medication, but it has the potential to mess with their kidneys (which are currently boardline ok for elderly cats) and it might not make them feel well enough to keep eating. I know they are old and will eventually die. But right now they are doing fine on the food/medications. I don't want them to suffer and die because I was forced to feed them food I KNOW is a problem. And to LifeParttwo - I haven't had issues with any of my 'second hand' cats refusing to eat their kibble (or canned food treats) when they didn't have health issues (like a rotting tooth or my current cats digestive issues). I did have a cat that insisted on "people food" but who would still eat his kibble. it took months for him to learn to keep him away from my plate (and a little help from the Iron Paw who had had enough of me scolding him and smacked/slammed his little hard head into the table - I swear I saw the little birds going around his head while he looked dazed and confused - he might have gotten a concussion from that swat. after that he stayed away from my plate and would beg from a safe distance.). I would imagine dealing with an elderly cat is not unlike dealing with an elderly dog when it comes to what they will/can and will not/cannot eat. I guess I didn't take into account that Shasta would adopt an elderly or special needs cat.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 1, 2020 16:17:17 GMT -5
Grocery store yesterday was not short of anything besides chicken but that has been the case since late March.
I went to our local butcher today and they were busy. I inquired and she said they have been slammed people are panic buying whatever they can. One guy while I was there got 8 package of chicken breasts.
I got what I usually get. Between that and what we already have in the freezer we are just fine for a month, possibly more because I plan on going more vegetarian and bulking up meals with produce/grains/beans. I am going to finally try my hand at the carrot hog dog recipe in my Thug Kitchen cookbook on Sunday.
I think the majority of Americans could stand to eat way less meat than we consume on average. I feel for people in food deserts who are having a hard time still finding anything at all, let alone 8 packages worth of chicken breasts for a single family. It makes me highly aware of how privileged I am and I keep that in mind when I have the urge to panic buy.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2020 18:14:41 GMT -5
We tend to cook red meat and chicken in 4 oz portions per person; seafood can be 6 oz. I went to Aldi today and they were fully stocked on all proteins, just maybe not the one you wanted. They had plenty of ground beef, but no ribeyes, etc. Tons of chicken parts, whole chickens, etc. I'm going to our local Asian market next week where they hand you gloves when you get a cart and I'm sure I'll find some good things to freeze.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2020 6:35:41 GMT -5
We tend to cook red meat and chicken in 4 oz portions per person; seafood can be 6 oz. It's pretty enlightening how little those portions are, isn't it? Those are typically the serving size that dietitians recommend. The chicken breasts I buy at Costco average 8 oz. and heaven knows what the meat on an Iowa-cut pork chop weighs- they're the size of a small steak.
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