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Post by zibazinski on Jan 15, 2017 21:38:43 GMT -5
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Jan 18, 2017 16:51:55 GMT -5
Miss Tequila: It's probably too late to add this in to your conversations with your bosses, but I suggest you ask that your raise be retroactive to the same date as when your incompetent colleague received his raise, otherwise, it just encourages these kinds of unbalanced compensation policies.
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Post by beergut on Jan 19, 2017 7:52:38 GMT -5
Miss Tequila : It's probably too late to add this in to your conversations with your bosses, but I suggest you ask that your raise be retroactive to the same date as when your incompetent colleague received his raise, otherwise, it just encourages these kinds of unbalanced compensation policies. I think that is overkill. She's making $15k more than the guy, I don't think she's missing out on some significant amount of money.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 19, 2017 8:06:28 GMT -5
How long ago did the guy get his raise?
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Jan 19, 2017 8:49:50 GMT -5
Miss Tequila : It's probably too late to add this in to your conversations with your bosses, but I suggest you ask that your raise be retroactive to the same date as when your incompetent colleague received his raise, otherwise, it just encourages these kinds of unbalanced compensation policies. I think that is overkill. She's making $15k more than the guy, I don't think she's missing out on some significant amount of money. Said a man... It's not the dollar amount, it's the principle.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jan 19, 2017 10:32:23 GMT -5
Miss Tequila : It's probably too late to add this in to your conversations with your bosses, but I suggest you ask that your raise be retroactive to the same date as when your incompetent colleague received his raise, otherwise, it just encourages these kinds of unbalanced compensation policies. I think that is overkill. She's making $15k more than the guy, I don't think she's missing out on some significant amount of money. She has also done his job along with her's while he was getting paid more. Not overkill.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Jan 19, 2017 11:42:24 GMT -5
Miss Tequila : It's probably too late to add this in to your conversations with your bosses, but I suggest you ask that your raise be retroactive to the same date as when your incompetent colleague received his raise, otherwise, it just encourages these kinds of unbalanced compensation policies. I think that is overkill. She's making $15k more than the guy, I don't think she's missing out on some significant amount of money. I'm willing to bet that you, dear beergut, in the same situation, would ask that your raise be retroactive. As Mich said, she's been doing her job, his job, AND supervising him all while he was paid more. Dollars and cents are irrelevant. Her employer treated her poorly, professes their wish for her to stay in their employ, and offered to make it right. So, if this guy is going to report to her, then pay her for the additional responsibility.
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Post by milee on Jan 19, 2017 12:09:05 GMT -5
....I turned down their initial offer and got another $5k out of it for a total of $25k. [So your boss' proposed raise for you that was supposedly in the works, just delayed was $20k.]
Now for the downside. I am afraid the "screw up" will wind up reporting to me. Right now he reports directly to my boss but he needs more guidance and training. My boss said that he is looking at the org chart and he will be making some changes. This guy missed today's reporting deadline. He is completely failing at his job but this time I didn't jump in and help him. ....
I should also note that part of this guys "raise" was a car allowance. .... That was $10k of his $20k raise. My boss swears he screwed up by giving him his raise before I got mine.
After some prodding, your company did address the issue of the other, incompetent guy (let's call him OG) making more total salary than you - which is good. But I'd still be hesitant to conclude the company truly values or views you more favorably than OG and I'm trying to figure out why. Here's what I'm seeing: - You not only do your work competently, but you fix OG's as well. The work OG's failing at is not immaterial - it involves incorrect information and missing deadlines for a public company which is a huge deal not just for SEC reporting but also because that could put you at risk of default for any debt you have, which is usually tied to the same reporting deadlines. - Your boss is aware (but overall president isn't aware to the full extent) that you are more competent and that you fix OG's work and are the only reason the company isn't missing deadlines. - Ignoring the timing issues and giving your boss the benefit of the doubt that he proposed your raise but it just get approved in time before OG's went through, your boss proposed and submitted requests for a $20k raise for you and a $20k raise for OG. So in your boss' eyes, you were both worth the same increase? Hmmmm.... if OG is failing at his job and the boss knows you're the one fixing it, why would he propose an equal raise for both of you? What special sauce does OG bring that outweighs his performance issues? If you don't know what the special sauce is, then I'd still be very leery of assuming your boss values and will take care of you. - And knowing the mechanics of how raises work at large companies, I'd still be very suspicious of the story that the timing was just a snafu, especially since it was corrected within a week. Raises are generally all done at the same time unless a promotion is in the works and if a promotion is in the works, if it falls close to raise time they generally do the promotions at the same time, too. Why was it so easy to get OG a $20k raise that went through on time yet your $20k raise was somehow hung up in the system? Unless you understand exactly how/why that happened and it makes sense to you, I'd be very leery of trusting that it really was in the works or that it was supposed to happen at this time. More likely, boss had requested it and been denied/pushed until later or had not requested it and had to scramble. That whole story just stinks like dead fish. Edited to add: I still think you made the right call in staying and accepting the raise. As you said, jobs like this in your area are rare. Plus, it's good for your resume to have that type of highly paid job; so many places look at prior salary history that this will show your value. I brought up those other points not to say that you should quit, just that IMHO I would still be watchful of the situation. This was a huge deal and for your boss to try to joke and shrug it off by saying he can't believe you didn't know he'd "take care of you" shows he really doesn't see how big a deal it was or that his actions demonstrate that they value your competence over OG's.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jan 19, 2017 13:34:54 GMT -5
....I turned down their initial offer and got another $5k out of it for a total of $25k. [So your boss' proposed raise for you that was supposedly in the works, just delayed was $20k.]
Now for the downside. I am afraid the "screw up" will wind up reporting to me. Right now he reports directly to my boss but he needs more guidance and training. My boss said that he is looking at the org chart and he will be making some changes. This guy missed today's reporting deadline. He is completely failing at his job but this time I didn't jump in and help him. ....
I should also note that part of this guys "raise" was a car allowance. .... That was $10k of his $20k raise. My boss swears he screwed up by giving him his raise before I got mine.
After some prodding, your company did address the issue of the other, incompetent guy (let's call him OG) making more total salary than you - which is good. But I'd still be hesitant to conclude the company truly values or views you more favorably than OG and I'm trying to figure out why. Here's what I'm seeing: - You not only do your work competently, but you fix OG's as well. The work OG's failing at is not immaterial - it involves incorrect information and missing deadlines for a public company which is a huge deal not just for SEC reporting but also because that could put you at risk of default for any debt you have, which is usually tied to the same reporting deadlines. - Your boss is aware (but overall president isn't aware to the full extent) that you are more competent and that you fix OG's work and are the only reason the company isn't missing deadlines. - Ignoring the timing issues and giving your boss the benefit of the doubt that he proposed your raise but it just get approved in time before OG's went through, your boss proposed and submitted requests for a $20k raise for you and a $20k raise for OG. So in your boss' eyes, you were both worth the same increase? Hmmmm.... if OG is failing at his job and the boss knows you're the one fixing it, why would he propose an equal raise for both of you? What special sauce does OG bring that outweighs his performance issues? If you don't know what the special sauce is, then I'd still be very leery of assuming your boss values and will take care of you.- And knowing the mechanics of how raises work at large companies, I'd still be very suspicious of the story that the timing was just a snafu, especially since it was corrected within a week. Raises are generally all done at the same time unless a promotion is in the works and if a promotion is in the works, if it falls close to raise time they generally do the promotions at the same time, too. Why was it so easy to get OG a $20k raise that went through on time yet your $20k raise was somehow hung up in the system? Unless you understand exactly how/why that happened and it makes sense to you, I'd be very leery of trusting that it really was in the works or that it was supposed to happen at this time. More likely, boss had requested it and been denied/pushed until later or had not requested it and had to scramble. That whole story just stinks like dead fish. Edited to add: I still think you made the right call in staying and accepting the raise. As you said, jobs like this in your area are rare. Plus, it's good for your resume to have that type of highly paid job; so many places look at prior salary history that this will show your value. I brought up those other points not to say that you should quit, just that IMHO I would still be watchful of the situation. This was a huge deal and for your boss to try to joke and shrug it off by saying he can't believe you didn't know he'd "take care of you" shows he really doesn't see how big a deal it was or that his actions demonstrate that they value your competence over OG's. I don't actually care if the boss values me or not. What I cared about was making less than someone less qualified and in that regard I got what I wanted. To be honest, I wasn't unhappy with my salary before I found out the other guy was making more, so now I'm very happy with my salary. My long-term goal is to have enough passive income that I do not need to "work for the man" so this extra money just gets pumped into my investments.
He might not value me as much as the other guy, but what he proved was that he needs me. And whether he planned it or not, he scrambled to make it happen when I was willing to walk. I will never know the real story of what happened. Did they think I wouldn't find out (not likely since payroll reports to me)? Did they think I'm too mild to stand up for myself (not likely as I go head-to-head with my boss over many issues)? Did they just not care? Again, not likely since when I did quit they immediately pushed it through for me.
This money will help me meet my goals even earlier and that's what I'm focusing on. If I'm still here in 5 years then someone please shoot me. My goal is to retire before I hit 50 and this money will help me get there.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jan 19, 2017 13:36:27 GMT -5
I think that is overkill. She's making $15k more than the guy, I don't think she's missing out on some significant amount of money. She has also done his job along with her's while he was getting paid more. Not overkill. he got his raise three months before me. I didn't think about going back to make it retroactive and honeslty, I'm not that hung up on it.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jan 19, 2017 13:37:50 GMT -5
I think that is overkill. She's making $15k more than the guy, I don't think she's missing out on some significant amount of money. I'm willing to bet that you, dear beergut , in the same situation, would ask that your raise be retroactive. As Mich said, she's been doing her job, his job, AND supervising him all while he was paid more. Dollars and cents are irrelevant. Her employer treated her poorly, professes their wish for her to stay in their employ, and offered to make it right. So, if this guy is going to report to her, then pay her for the additional responsibility. I didn't think of making it retroactive. In hindsight I should have. But I have agreed to the terms so I'm not going back to them now. Im happy with my salary.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Jan 19, 2017 15:48:09 GMT -5
As long as you are happy Miss T, that is what matters. Our thoughts and opinions don't.
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Post by beergut on Jan 19, 2017 20:40:39 GMT -5
....I turned down their initial offer and got another $5k out of it for a total of $25k. [So your boss' proposed raise for you that was supposedly in the works, just delayed was $20k.]
Now for the downside. I am afraid the "screw up" will wind up reporting to me. Right now he reports directly to my boss but he needs more guidance and training. My boss said that he is looking at the org chart and he will be making some changes. This guy missed today's reporting deadline. He is completely failing at his job but this time I didn't jump in and help him. ....
I should also note that part of this guys "raise" was a car allowance. .... That was $10k of his $20k raise. My boss swears he screwed up by giving him his raise before I got mine.
After some prodding, your company did address the issue of the other, incompetent guy (let's call him OG) making more total salary than you - which is good. But I'd still be hesitant to conclude the company truly values or views you more favorably than OG and I'm trying to figure out why. Here's what I'm seeing: - You not only do your work competently, but you fix OG's as well. The work OG's failing at is not immaterial - it involves incorrect information and missing deadlines for a public company which is a huge deal not just for SEC reporting but also because that could put you at risk of default for any debt you have, which is usually tied to the same reporting deadlines. - Your boss is aware (but overall president isn't aware to the full extent) that you are more competent and that you fix OG's work and are the only reason the company isn't missing deadlines. - Ignoring the timing issues and giving your boss the benefit of the doubt that he proposed your raise but it just get approved in time before OG's went through, your boss proposed and submitted requests for a $20k raise for you and a $20k raise for OG. So in your boss' eyes, you were both worth the same increase? Hmmmm.... if OG is failing at his job and the boss knows you're the one fixing it, why would he propose an equal raise for both of you? What special sauce does OG bring that outweighs his performance issues? If you don't know what the special sauce is, then I'd still be very leery of assuming your boss values and will take care of you. - And knowing the mechanics of how raises work at large companies, I'd still be very suspicious of the story that the timing was just a snafu, especially since it was corrected within a week. Raises are generally all done at the same time unless a promotion is in the works and if a promotion is in the works, if it falls close to raise time they generally do the promotions at the same time, too. Why was it so easy to get OG a $20k raise that went through on time yet your $20k raise was somehow hung up in the system? Unless you understand exactly how/why that happened and it makes sense to you, I'd be very leery of trusting that it really was in the works or that it was supposed to happen at this time. More likely, boss had requested it and been denied/pushed until later or had not requested it and had to scramble. That whole story just stinks like dead fish. Edited to add: I still think you made the right call in staying and accepting the raise. As you said, jobs like this in your area are rare. Plus, it's good for your resume to have that type of highly paid job; so many places look at prior salary history that this will show your value. I brought up those other points not to say that you should quit, just that IMHO I would still be watchful of the situation. This was a huge deal and for your boss to try to joke and shrug it off by saying he can't believe you didn't know he'd "take care of you" shows he really doesn't see how big a deal it was or that his actions demonstrate that they value your competence over OG's. My original assumption when I heard they placed OG under her was that they were trying to undermine her. The salary increase would be a Pyrrhic victory, as she would receive a raise for a short period before OG's incompetence would cause her to be fired. I may be more paranoid than some, though.
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Post by NastyWoman on Jan 19, 2017 20:53:11 GMT -5
My original assumption when I heard they placed OG under her was that they were trying to undermine her. The salary increase would be a Pyrrhic victory, as she would receive a raise for a short period before OG's incompetence would cause her to be fired. I may be more paranoid than some, though. Possibly, but I don't see that easily happen since I don't see MT as a person who would not write up OG for his problems and put him on a PIP right away
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jan 20, 2017 8:21:10 GMT -5
Thank you all for your kind thoughts (well, most of you!lol).
I had my conversation last week (I think I posted about that) but had to wait until this week to see what was "in the works".
I was given a pretty substantial raise. I turned down their initial offer and got another $5k out of it for a total of $25k. I know I hate my job but I just can't turn that kind of money down for the unknown. As you can tell, it's the money that is keeping me and nothing else. I'm a whore
Now for the downside. I am afraid the "screw up" will wind up reporting to me. Right now he reports directly to my boss but he needs more guidance and training. My boss said that he is looking at the org chart and he will be making some changes. This guy missed today's reporting deadline. He is completely failing at his job but this time I didn't jump in and help him. I want his screw ups known and that isn't going to happen if I keep covering for him. When I rescinded my resignation I told my boss that he needs to take a more active role in training him (and by "more" active role, I mean any role!lol)....but I fear that is going to backfire by just making him my problem.
So I'm staying for now. The extra money will help me build my real estate portfolio even faster. But I'm not naïve. Eventually the money won't mean much to me if I'm still unhappy.
So that's my update. More money but nothing else really changed.t
ETA: I should also note that part of this guys "raise" was a car allowance. My boss claims that HR tossed out the car allowance for him since he travels so much (and to be fair, he does travel a lot since the company he oversees is 7 hours away). That was $10k of his $20k raise. My boss swears he screwed up by giving him his raise before I got mine. Who knows if that is true or not. In the end, I got a substantial raise to stay. And more important, I know that I have the balls to walk if I feel I'm not happy or feel like I'm not being compensated appropriately. I'm not a victim! I'm just catching up, but did any title change come with that cashola? And - congrats on the raise! Retirement is definitely getting closer!
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Post by formerroomate99 on Jan 20, 2017 8:44:25 GMT -5
Couldn't Mrs T just fire Mr Incompetent first? She is his boss now. At this point she has cause to put him on probation.
Or maybe just change around his duties. If this guy is willing to travel all the time and generally competent in the rest of his duties, that has value. Maybe moving some of his reporting duties to someone else would solve the problem? This would work if there was some other workers who was good at doing reports and wanted to trade travel for reporting duties.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jan 20, 2017 10:46:04 GMT -5
OG got his raise 3 months ago, but your boss just hadn't gotten around to telling you yours was coming or pushing it through?
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 20, 2017 10:54:36 GMT -5
The boss got caught and fixed it which is what they usually do. But Miss T is satisfied and that's what counts. She knows he can't be trusted and she knows she's valuable. Two important things.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jan 20, 2017 11:48:08 GMT -5
The boss got caught and fixed it which is what they usually do. But Miss T is satisfied and that's what counts. She knows he can't be trusted and she knows she's valuable. Two important things. Regardless of whether I would have been given a raise whether I resigned or not, at the end of the day I got a very nice raise.
I'm reading the posts in here and I can't help but wonder why people are still hung up on what happened originally versus the fact that I got what I wanted in teh end. I'm honestly wondering if that is the difference in a victim mentality versus a "take action" mentality. In my eyes I was being fucked over financially so I took action. I am no longer being fucked over financially. I don't honestly care the motivation of giving OG a raise and not at least talking to me. In the end I proved that I wont' be taken advantage of and I also proved that while they might not value me (as some have said) they sure as hell need me. That might change in a year and you know what, that's ok too. I will be even more ready to walk in 12 months.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jan 20, 2017 12:34:48 GMT -5
The boss got caught and fixed it which is what they usually do. But Miss T is satisfied and that's what counts. She knows he can't be trusted and she knows she's valuable. Two important things. Regardless of whether I would have been given a raise whether I resigned or not, at the end of the day I got a very nice raise.
I'm reading the posts in here and I can't help but wonder why people are still hung up on what happened originally versus the fact that I got what I wanted in teh end. I'm honestly wondering if that is the difference in a victim mentality versus a "take action" mentality. In my eyes I was being fucked over financially so I took action. I am no longer being fucked over financially. I don't honestly care the motivation of giving OG a raise and not at least talking to me. In the end I proved that I wont' be taken advantage of and I also proved that while they might not value me (as some have said) they sure as hell need me. That might change in a year and you know what, that's ok too. I will be even more ready to walk in 12 months.
I don't have a victim mentality, but I don't like liars. If it had been a couple weeks I could convince myself that boss was being honest and it was just a mistake. No way that is the case over 3 months and intent whether conscious or not in this case matters. And you're lucky. You actually have access to the information and were able to call them out on it. Most people do not have that and would have been fixing OG mistakes for less money for months or years, falling farther and farther behind in wages. That is the reality of gender disparity whether you want to believe it or not. Calling it out doesn't make anyone a victim.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jan 20, 2017 14:03:55 GMT -5
Regardless of whether I would have been given a raise whether I resigned or not, at the end of the day I got a very nice raise.
I'm reading the posts in here and I can't help but wonder why people are still hung up on what happened originally versus the fact that I got what I wanted in teh end. I'm honestly wondering if that is the difference in a victim mentality versus a "take action" mentality. In my eyes I was being fucked over financially so I took action. I am no longer being fucked over financially. I don't honestly care the motivation of giving OG a raise and not at least talking to me. In the end I proved that I wont' be taken advantage of and I also proved that while they might not value me (as some have said) they sure as hell need me. That might change in a year and you know what, that's ok too. I will be even more ready to walk in 12 months.
I don't have a victim mentality, but I don't like liars. If it had been a couple weeks I could convince myself that boss was being honest and it was just a mistake. No way that is the case over 3 months and intent whether conscious or not in this case matters. And you're lucky. You actually have access to the information and were able to call them out on it. Most people do not have that and would have been fixing OG mistakes for less money for months or years, falling farther and farther behind in wages. That is the reality of gender disparity whether you want to believe it or not. Calling it out doesn't make anyone a victim. Here is where you and I are going to disagree. I wasn't unhappy with my salary. I wasn't being underpaid for my position. I get the annual salary surveys and I know where I should be. I was at the top end of the salary range for my position/location (not absolute top but definitely the higher end). With the OG's raise, he is now being way overpaid. And to be fair, with my big raise I am now outside of the range which means I'm also being overpaid. So does that mean that we now need to bump up everyone $20k/$25k so that no one will have any reason to bitch?
I'm not sure that I am explaining my thoughts properly. Until OG got his huge bump in salary, I was paid fairly and wasn't unhappy about my salary (hated my job, but it had nothing to do with salary). I think he got a crazy raise that he didn't deserve. I have zero justification for his raise. But I am not about to work for less than the guy who I have to clean up after. So it wasn't like I was sitting here stewing thinking I was underpaid and then finding out that someone else is making $10k more than me. But I was still pissed because he doesn't deserve to make more than me. He has been traveling so I would have been fine with a bonus for traveling. That is not something that will continue once his traveling is over.
I can tell you that I am now making more than some people at the next level up. That certainly isn't right or fair. But it will get very expensive if we keep raising everyone's salary because someone screwed up and bumped up one guy to a level that is crazy.
I was initially very pissed and I'm sure that most people would be. But now I think the wrong decision was giving him the raise. I just benefited from it. So, I honestly will never know why he got the raise. I will never know if they were going to do what they did for me. All I know is that I am very happy with my raise....but still hate my job!lol
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Post by raeoflyte on Jan 20, 2017 16:58:57 GMT -5
I don't have a victim mentality, but I don't like liars. If it had been a couple weeks I could convince myself that boss was being honest and it was just a mistake. No way that is the case over 3 months and intent whether conscious or not in this case matters. And you're lucky. You actually have access to the information and were able to call them out on it. Most people do not have that and would have been fixing OG mistakes for less money for months or years, falling farther and farther behind in wages. That is the reality of gender disparity whether you want to believe it or not. Calling it out doesn't make anyone a victim. Here is where you and I are going to disagree. I wasn't unhappy with my salary. I wasn't being underpaid for my position. I get the annual salary surveys and I know where I should be. I was at the top end of the salary range for my position/location (not absolute top but definitely the higher end). With the OG's raise, he is now being way overpaid. And to be fair, with my big raise I am now outside of the range which means I'm also being overpaid. So does that mean that we now need to bump up everyone $20k/$25k so that no one will have any reason to bitch?
I'm not sure that I am explaining my thoughts properly. Until OG got his huge bump in salary, I was paid fairly and wasn't unhappy about my salary (hated my job, but it had nothing to do with salary). I think he got a crazy raise that he didn't deserve. I have zero justification for his raise. But I am not about to work for less than the guy who I have to clean up after. So it wasn't like I was sitting here stewing thinking I was underpaid and then finding out that someone else is making $10k more than me. But I was still pissed because he doesn't deserve to make more than me. He has been traveling so I would have been fine with a bonus for traveling. That is not something that will continue once his traveling is over.
I can tell you that I am now making more than some people at the next level up. That certainly isn't right or fair. But it will get very expensive if we keep raising everyone's salary because someone screwed up and bumped up one guy to a level that is crazy.
I was initially very pissed and I'm sure that most people would be. But now I think the wrong decision was giving him the raise. I just benefited from it. So, I honestly will never know why he got the raise. I will never know if they were going to do what they did for me. All I know is that I am very happy with my raise....but still hate my job!lol
That post and what I'm talking about aren't even the same subject. Of course the wrong decision was giving a guy who isn't doing his job well a raise. Let's take the $10k for travel out of the picture and just use the $10k raise. Boss has $10k to give out for raises. Who should it go to? The person meeting deadlines and covering for other departments to make sure the company as a whole is successful? Or to the person new to their role, has struggled to meet deadlines and has needed repeated assistance from other departments? Really tough decision there... You know which one your boss picked. I would do the exact same thing you are. Stay at the job and keep the raise, and use it to reach your next goals. Being previously happy with your salary doesn't factor into this at all.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Jan 20, 2017 17:58:56 GMT -5
Reading the posts above, there is something to be said for not taking stuff at work personally. Your manager is not your parent. He/She doesn't have to be fair or truthful or give a rat's behind about your well being. Managers want to get the job done as cheaply as possible, and turnover is costly. That's the only reason they pretend to care. Getting fooled by pretty words is a good way to set yourself up for disappointment. Until proved otherwise, you should always assume that a manager will screw you over when it is in their best interests to do so.
It is lucky that Mrs T was in the unique position of knowing she was being screwed over. Most employees aren't
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jan 20, 2017 21:41:46 GMT -5
The boss got caught and fixed it which is what they usually do. But Miss T is satisfied and that's what counts. She knows he can't be trusted and she knows she's valuable. Two important things. Regardless of whether I would have been given a raise whether I resigned or not, at the end of the day I got a very nice raise.
I'm reading the posts in here and I can't help but wonder why people are still hung up on what happened originally versus the fact that I got what I wanted in teh end. I'm honestly wondering if that is the difference in a victim mentality versus a "take action" mentality. In my eyes I was being fucked over financially so I took action. I am no longer being fucked over financially. I don't honestly care the motivation of giving OG a raise and not at least talking to me. In the end I proved that I wont' be taken advantage of and I also proved that while they might not value me (as some have said) they sure as hell need me. That might change in a year and you know what, that's ok too. I will be even more ready to walk in 12 months.
you were in a position to know about it, and could be open about knowing about it. Many aren't. Imagine if you were in a different department disclosing salary was cause for dismissal (so few talked, and if you did hear - you couldn't admit to having discussed it). You found out bozo surpassed you in salary 20 years ago, and all the compound raises on that over the years as you fixed his work.
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Post by beergut on Jan 23, 2017 19:14:04 GMT -5
The boss got caught and fixed it which is what they usually do. But Miss T is satisfied and that's what counts. She knows he can't be trusted and she knows she's valuable. Two important things. Regardless of whether I would have been given a raise whether I resigned or not, at the end of the day I got a very nice raise.
I'm reading the posts in here and I can't help but wonder why people are still hung up on what happened originally versus the fact that I got what I wanted in teh end. I'm honestly wondering if that is the difference in a victim mentality versus a "take action" mentality. In my eyes I was being fucked over financially so I took action. I am no longer being fucked over financially. I don't honestly care the motivation of giving OG a raise and not at least talking to me. In the end I proved that I wont' be taken advantage of and I also proved that while they might not value me (as some have said) they sure as hell need me. That might change in a year and you know what, that's ok too. I will be even more ready to walk in 12 months. The prevalent SJW mentality encourages people to be unjustifiably outraged on behalf of others. You received a raise and are happy, but SJWs are unhappy because there is no 'justice' being done here. In their world, both your boss and OG need to be punished in some way for things to be even. They're really not after justice, they're after vengeance.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2017 19:43:17 GMT -5
What is SJW?
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tallguy
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Post by tallguy on Jan 23, 2017 19:47:39 GMT -5
I'm guessing social justice warrior....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2017 20:27:04 GMT -5
I'm guessing social justice warrior.... Thank you!!
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