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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 9:12:09 GMT -5
Last night a male employee viciously attacked one of our female managers in her office. She crawled to the front of the office leaving a trail of blood, still bleeding pretty badly. She was rushed to the hospital and is still there.
I'm a little nervous today because no one knows where the guy is. His car is still on the parking lot. I don't even know if they're sure he actually left the building. The building takes up the whole block... huge with countless nooks and crannies to hide in.
This guy is a Vietnam Vet who's a bit strange. He's popped up inside the building before while he was off the clock for a period of time, pending an investigation of him allegedly threatening a supervisor.
I'm a bit nervous, wondering if he's still in the building somewhere or if he might come back on a rampage. Unless I hear he's in police custody before the end of my workday, i'll probably be nervous all day. Ugh!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 9:15:52 GMT -5
I would probably not go. I think it's justified until he is caught and your employer should make arrangements. God forbid he comes back and they knew there was a potential danger I think would be their liability. I'm sorry this probably isn't helping as you'd like
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 24, 2016 9:17:48 GMT -5
Omg. Please take care of you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 9:18:06 GMT -5
I'm already here. I heard about what happened last night, as soon as it happened. I didn't know until after I got here this morning that nobody knew where he was and his car was still here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 9:19:18 GMT -5
Are they taking extra precautions? Is there extra security? Are the searching the building?
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 24, 2016 9:20:35 GMT -5
Pink, get escorted out of there. Now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 9:24:21 GMT -5
Are they taking extra precautions? Is there extra security? Are the searching the building? No, I haven't seen or heard about them searching the building. Our police were posted at the 2 entrances that are the easiest to get into without an access card. But anybody that's worked here for any amount of time knows there are several ways to get inside without an access card. They do have his picture posted everywhere, saying do not let him in and to call the police if you see him.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 24, 2016 9:24:46 GMT -5
OMG, Pink! I hope precautions have been put in place to prevent any further attempts by this guy! I'm so sorry you're faced with this. I'd be terrified, too!
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 24, 2016 9:25:41 GMT -5
Please keep us posted as you can, Pink. I'm going to be worried as heck about you and your fellow employees!
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Post by Shooby on Jan 24, 2016 9:27:03 GMT -5
His car is still there? And, you are open for work today? Wow. Did the Police search the building at least?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 9:27:28 GMT -5
I'd go home. When do you work again though? Can you personally call police for an update? Ask if the building has been searched?
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Post by swamp on Jan 24, 2016 9:59:48 GMT -5
I'd go home sick and stay sick until they find him.
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Post by MarleyKeezy78 on Jan 24, 2016 10:04:57 GMT -5
What the hell! They need to be on lock down and the workers should have been told to stay home! I hope they find his crazy ass very soon! Be safe
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jan 24, 2016 10:20:05 GMT -5
I would throw up on my keyboard and say I need to go home now.
Or you in an office by yourself where you can lock your door if you stay? Or do you work in a cube?
I still vote for going home if you can.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 10:35:33 GMT -5
I talked to my boss to get more information. I work on federal property and last night the feds were able to determine that he did leave the building. I don't know if they determined that from people that saw him leave or footage from cameras.
We have our own police and they're supposed to be monitoring the perimeter, entrances and inside the building. I personally haven't seen them so far, but some coworkers have.
I feel better knowing he was seen leaving the building. I don't think my boss would lie to me about that, she's pretty disturbed about the severity and viciousness of the attack and worried like me about him possibly coming back.
I don't work in an office. More of a warehouse like setting. If there were no macines, you could see from one end of the building to the other.
I'll check in later so u all know I'm still around lol
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jan 24, 2016 10:54:29 GMT -5
Yes, please check in fairly regularly while you at work. Stay safe Pink.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jan 24, 2016 12:53:33 GMT -5
They should be pulling extra homeland security officers and stationing them around the building. Any time we are threatened dozens of them show up. We had 10 K9s the time there was a suspicious vehicle in the parking lot. Be careful!!
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 24, 2016 12:58:16 GMT -5
Geez, Pink, I'm scared for you and your co workers.
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Post by moneymaven on Jan 24, 2016 13:46:26 GMT -5
Go home pink, this sounds bad and shouldn't be taken lightly.
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Post by milee on Jan 24, 2016 13:58:20 GMT -5
Sorry this happened at your work, Pink. Glad you're safe.
But sheesh, people, let's dial down the melodrama. The guy is not in the building, everybody is aware of what's up and there are police at the entrances that are easiest to get into. Not an ideal situation but not deserving of getting crazy with fear, either.
Do your job as best you can, see if there's anything you can do to send good wishes to the manager that was hurt and move on. Based on your knowledge of the building, the situation and the people decide how big the risk is. If you really think it's likely he's in the building or could easily get in - take a sick day. if you think it's unlikely he could get in, then give yourself a minute to breathe and go back to work.
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Post by Apple on Jan 24, 2016 14:08:50 GMT -5
That sucks, hope they catch the guy soon! Take care of yourself.
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Post by debthaven on Jan 24, 2016 14:27:06 GMT -5
Hugs Pink, I'm sure that's incredibly unsettling! I'm glad you're safe.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 14:36:05 GMT -5
Sorry this happened at your work, Pink. Glad you're safe.
But sheesh, people, let's dial down the melodrama. The guy is not in the building, everybody is aware of what's up and there are police at the entrances that are easiest to get into. Not an ideal situation but not deserving of getting crazy with fear, either.
Do your job as best you can, see if there's anything you can do to send good wishes to the manager that was hurt and move on. Based on your knowledge of the building, the situation and the people decide how big the risk is. If you really think it's likely he's in the building or could easily get in - take a sick day. if you think it's unlikely he could get in, then give yourself a minute to breathe and go back to work. No one initially knew he wasn't in the building. His car was still there. Sorry, this is obviously an unbalanced individual and I'm sure has access to weapons. There have been too many instances lately of this stuff turning bad. I'd be over cautious and alive. Now the assurance the man has left the building and that there is extra security do help to some degree.
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Post by moneymaven on Jan 24, 2016 14:38:35 GMT -5
Sorry this happened at your work, Pink. Glad you're safe.
But sheesh, people, let's dial down the melodrama. The guy is not in the building, everybody is aware of what's up and there are police at the entrances that are easiest to get into. Not an ideal situation but not deserving of getting crazy with fear, either.
Do your job as best you can, see if there's anything you can do to send good wishes to the manager that was hurt and move on. Based on your knowledge of the building, the situation and the people decide how big the risk is. If you really think it's likely he's in the building or could easily get in - take a sick day. if you think it's unlikely he could get in, then give yourself a minute to breathe and go back to work. Based on what's been shared, my concern comes from how they company has addressed the situation. The mere fact that a supervisor who knows more shares the same degree of concern as pink, that is reason enough for me to not be there. It sounds like this guy has an established pattern of crazy behavior and unleashed on someone who is still in the hospital as a result of the attack. I don't believe that's us being dramatic, but rather suggesting safety of oneself becomes the priority. I have a large staff in many locations. If this occurred, we would not have any staff reporting to work. Safety and wellbeing of our staff comes first.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 15:10:57 GMT -5
I'm home safe and sound. The police were still at the easy access entrances when I left.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Jan 24, 2016 15:27:37 GMT -5
I'm glad you are out of there. Stay out until you know where this guy is. And no, she did not deserve this. We have no idea what is swimming around in his head at this point, but you're right - there's no way this should have happened. Then again, there often is no way to really predict a "snap" in someone, even someone who isn't all quite right. And you are limited as to what you can say or do until someone does finally let go and the real crazy starts up.
I don't agree with it, and think reporting should happen sooner if there is suspected mental illness. But I do not make the rules.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 15:37:30 GMT -5
Thanks for the concern for my and my coworkers' safety. I meant to check in more often but I could only post on my phone and the day was a bit hectic.
All day while I've been wondering if he'll eventually come back, I thought about the discussions about mass shootings and mental illness. My employer gives preference and a lot of leeway to our veterans, which I don't have a problem with, but some of our veterans have serious issues, especially the ones that have witnessed the atrocities of war. I already knew this guy was in Vietnam, my boss said today that he was a POW during his service. I don't know if that has anything to do with his state of mind or not. But this is the south, everyone has guns and we've seen so many instances of terrible things happening and later finding out that the perpetrator had a history of mental illness. And although he's had issues at work before, he's been allowed to come back and it's just my opinion, but I believe part of that was because he's a veteran.
I don't know what the answers are, all mentally ill people aren't violent, all veterans aren't mentally ill, and all gun owners aren't going to go out and just start shooting people, I've just been thinking a lot about that stuff today.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 15:47:45 GMT -5
I'm glad you are out of there. Stay out until you know where this guy is. And no, she did not deserve this. We have no idea what is swimming around in his head at this point, but you're right - there's no way this should have happened. Then again, there often is no way to really predict a "snap" in someone, even someone who isn't all quite right. And you are limited as to what you can say or do until someone does finally let go and the real crazy starts up. I don't agree with it, and think reporting should happen sooner if there is suspected mental illness. But I do not make the rules. He's supposed to have a diagnosed mental illness. One thing several people commented on was that he was unusually talkative and in a good mood yesterday. I don't see him often, but I did see him yesterday before I left. He was talking to one of my friends while I was standing there and I actually said "this is one of the craziest conversations I've ever heard" and he chuckled. He was saying his name was some name that wasn't really his name and some stuff about some other names, I wasn't really paying attention at first. Then he asked if we saw Pete standing behind him. No one was standing behind him. Then he looked serious and said "those really are the names of people I left in Vietnam". We thought he was just joking around except for the Vietnam part, but maybe that all was a sign that he was off his meds or something.
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Post by mojothehelpermonkey on Jan 24, 2016 15:53:48 GMT -5
I can understand why you would be nervous. I supervised a guy in grad school who seemed like he was showing signs of developing schizophrenia. I don't even know what was actually going on with him, but after I told my supervisor I was no longer comfortable working with him, he got sent to another lab. He then made some threats to the PI there, and eventually both labs had to get new locks and we were told to keep the doors locked at all times. Nothing ever came of it, but it was a stressful couple of weeks. I also was funded through the VA for a while, so even though I didn't work in the VA hospital, I still had to go through their employee training program. Everyone associated with the VA hospital, including off site lab employees, had to attend a 2 hour session on recognizing and responding to PTSD and potentially dangerous behavior in veterans. Workplace violence is a serious issue, but that VA hospital at least tried to take it seriously.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Jan 24, 2016 16:06:47 GMT -5
When are you done with your shift?
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