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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jan 27, 2016 13:53:03 GMT -5
I asked him to please stop pointing the gun my way. He got kind of irritated and told me it didn't have any bullets in it, his tone implied that a "dummy" was left off the end of the sentence. I told him it's not suppose to have bullets in it, but still don't point it at me.
This is not unreasonable, I'm glad you spoke up. Every gun shop I have ever been in has shown me an empty chamber before handing the gun over for me to look at. I would have talked to the manager at that point.
One of the cardinal rules, do not point the gun at something you do not intend to shoot. He should have known that.
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Post by gregintenn on Jan 27, 2016 14:17:47 GMT -5
Well into my adult life, I thought I was afraid of guns. Then when I bought my own gun and started going to the firing ranges, I learned that I kind of liked shooting at paper targets and hitting the part of the target I was aiming for. And I realized I wasn't really afraid of guns themselves, I was actually afraid of careless people and bad people with guns. I'd seen many people be careless with guns, with the excuse that it wasn't loaded, or the safety was on, and I know many people have been shot with guns that "didn't" have a bullet in them. In one gun shop, the guy that was showing me guns was handling one and kept pointing it in my direction as he was telling me about it. I asked him to please stop pointing the gun my way. He got kind of irritated and told me it didn't have any bullets in it, his tone implied that a "dummy" was left off the end of the sentence. I told him it's not suppose to have bullets in it, but still don't point it at me. Maybe I was being ridiculous since it was a new gun that was always locked away and only handled by the store's employees or under their supervision, but I didn't really care. That's not the worst thing I've seen though, just one where I really thought he should have respected my concern given the business he was in. I don't think people should be able to own guns if they're careless or hot tempered, or if they think owning a gun makes them a bad ass that can handle any situation. And that's just the 'normal' people. I also don't want addicts, unstable individuals or people with criminal tendencies to have guns. But those are just my thoughts and wishes, and not the reality of gun ownership in the US. You NEVER point a firearm at anything you do not intend to shoot......EVER. I'd have left as well. I agree with everything you said in theory. The bad part is that if we let government start deciding who can and who can't have a gun, it'll morph into political and religious philosophy, among many other useless litmus tests, all in the name of safety.
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Post by daisy on Jan 27, 2016 15:52:17 GMT -5
I'll freely admit there's no shortage of stupid people, and some of them happen to own guns. To legally carry a gun on your person, at least in my state, you need a valid carry permit. The people who have went through the time, expense, and trouble to acquire these are among the very best folks my state has to offer. There are always exceptions, but not many in this case. You know the media would be an a carry permit holder who screwed up like a duck on a june bug!
The undeniable fact remains, however, that criminals will ALWAYS have guns available.
I agree, criminals and stupid people will always have guns.
And what they do with them overshadows what the cops and the well trained, responsible gun owners do with their weapons.
It's kind of like pit bulls. Pit bulls owned by responsible dog owners are well behaved, well adjusted, good family dogs. Unfortunately a lot of stupid people want a pit bull because they want an aggressive attack dog. They abuse them and train them to be mean. You only ever hear about the horrible pit bull attacks in the media - never about the sweet family dog pit bulls - so now everyone is afraid of pit bulls, even the nice, sweet family dogs pit bulls.
Same thing with guns- if stupid people didn't own them and do stupid things with them, if only well trained, responsible people owned guns, very few people would have a problem with guns. The gun isn't bad, just like the pit bull isn't bad - it's just that crazy people and stupid people tend to want to own pit bulls and guns and do stupid things with both of them.
AAAAAACK - I HAVE to address your comprehensive, generalized statement that I bolded above. I might have posted this here before, I don't remember.....we took an unwanted, barely old enough to be away from momma pit bull puppy that my exes boss had gotten as a gift. He didn't want it and was going to put it out in the back yard of his shop and leave it to be a mean, nasty shop dog. He had the dog IN the shop for a day or two before ex and I suggested that it was so tiny and alone that maybe a home with a family might be a better place for it. This dog lived for 1 1/2 years as a pampered, loved, coddled baby. It slept on my children's bed, played with the neighbor's kids, went camping with us...NOTHING but love was showered on this dog, along with our other lab mix. He went to obedience school, was neutered, vet checked...I could go on and on with how well this dog was treated and raised. One night my daughter came from the kitchen into our dining room and the dog went NUTS. He chased her into her bedroom, LAUNCHED himself across her bed and grabbed her by the thigh. She was screaming, I was yelling at the dog to let her go, ex was trying to grab the dog - who was trying to tear her thigh off. I grabbed a boot or something, I don't even remember what it was and beat the dog on the head until for whatever reason, HE decided to let go. This beloved pet sat on the floor looking at all of us with bewilderment in his eyes. HE had NO idea what he had just done. After his confinement with the vet for 10 days or whatever it was for a rabies check, he was put down. My daughter has scars from the bite on her leg, and while not terrified of dogs, certainly doesn't trust them any longer. I will NEVER be in a room with a pit bull/mix ever again, unless it is locked up. And nor will I ever allow anyone to make a statement that only "badly treated pit bull/mixes" go after people. Thank the goddess he did not get her by the throat and that he let her go. If I had had a gun that day, I would have shot him myself. So please, do some research on how many of these beloved family pets manage to kill family members. There was one years ago in the Lake Geneva area where the family thought they were being responsible with managing several pitts and their children. The dog ripped their toddler from mom's arms and killed him (?) in front of her. ENOUGH with this baloney that only bad dogs kill.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Jan 27, 2016 15:56:11 GMT -5
In his case, I think the dummy was on his end of the gun. Certainly not your end for saying something about it.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 27, 2016 15:57:28 GMT -5
Well into my adult life, I thought I was afraid of guns. Then when I bought my own gun and started going to the firing ranges, I learned that I kind of liked shooting at paper targets and hitting the part of the target I was aiming for. And I realized I wasn't really afraid of guns themselves, I was actually afraid of careless people and bad people with guns. I'd seen many people be careless with guns, with the excuse that it wasn't loaded, or the safety was on, and I know many people have been shot with guns that "didn't" have a bullet in them. In one gun shop, the guy that was showing me guns was handling one and kept pointing it in my direction as he was telling me about it. I asked him to please stop pointing the gun my way. He got kind of irritated and told me it didn't have any bullets in it, his tone implied that a "dummy" was left off the end of the sentence. I told him it's not suppose to have bullets in it, but still don't point it at me. Maybe I was being ridiculous since it was a new gun that was always locked away and only handled by the store's employees or under their supervision, but I didn't really care. That's not the worst thing I've seen though, just one where I really thought he should have respected my concern given the business he was in. I don't think people should be able to own guns if they're careless or hot tempered, or if they think owning a gun makes them a bad ass that can handle any situation. And that's just the 'normal' people. I also don't want addicts, unstable individuals or people with criminal tendencies to have guns. But those are just my thoughts and wishes, and not the reality of gun ownership in the US. At my shooting range, he would have not been allowed back in.
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Post by daisy on Jan 27, 2016 15:57:37 GMT -5
I asked him to please stop pointing the gun my way. He got kind of irritated and told me it didn't have any bullets in it, his tone implied that a "dummy" was left off the end of the sentence. I told him it's not suppose to have bullets in it, but still don't point it at me.This is not unreasonable, I'm glad you spoke up. Every gun shop I have ever been in has shown me an empty chamber before handing the gun over for me to look at. I would have talked to the manager at that point. One of the cardinal rules, do not point the gun at something you do not intend to shoot. He should have known that. In our favorite gun shop (that is now under new management ) they have a sign that says, you aim it at someone or cock it, you're out. They don't mess around with anyone who might be there just to play or who has no respect for the weapon. I miss those guys.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 27, 2016 15:58:42 GMT -5
Well into my adult life, I thought I was afraid of guns. Then when I bought my own gun and started going to the firing ranges, I learned that I kind of liked shooting at paper targets and hitting the part of the target I was aiming for. And I realized I wasn't really afraid of guns themselves, I was actually afraid of careless people and bad people with guns. I'd seen many people be careless with guns, with the excuse that it wasn't loaded, or the safety was on, and I know many people have been shot with guns that "didn't" have a bullet in them. In one gun shop, the guy that was showing me guns was handling one and kept pointing it in my direction as he was telling me about it. I asked him to please stop pointing the gun my way. He got kind of irritated and told me it didn't have any bullets in it, his tone implied that a "dummy" was left off the end of the sentence. I told him it's not suppose to have bullets in it, but still don't point it at me. Maybe I was being ridiculous since it was a new gun that was always locked away and only handled by the store's employees or under their supervision, but I didn't really care. That's not the worst thing I've seen though, just one where I really thought he should have respected my concern given the business he was in. I don't think people should be able to own guns if they're careless or hot tempered, or if they think owning a gun makes them a bad ass that can handle any situation. And that's just the 'normal' people. I also don't want addicts, unstable individuals or people with criminal tendencies to have guns. But those are just my thoughts and wishes, and not the reality of gun ownership in the US. Omg, he worked there?! He'd have been immediately fired.
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Post by dannylion on Jan 27, 2016 19:59:19 GMT -5
Well into my adult life, I thought I was afraid of guns. Then when I bought my own gun and started going to the firing ranges, I learned that I kind of liked shooting at paper targets and hitting the part of the target I was aiming for. And I realized I wasn't really afraid of guns themselves, I was actually afraid of careless people and bad people with guns. I'd seen many people be careless with guns, with the excuse that it wasn't loaded, or the safety was on, and I know many people have been shot with guns that "didn't" have a bullet in them. In one gun shop, the guy that was showing me guns was handling one and kept pointing it in my direction as he was telling me about it. I asked him to please stop pointing the gun my way. He got kind of irritated and told me it didn't have any bullets in it, his tone implied that a "dummy" was left off the end of the sentence. I told him it's not suppose to have bullets in it, but still don't point it at me. Maybe I was being ridiculous since it was a new gun that was always locked away and only handled by the store's employees or under their supervision, but I didn't really care. That's not the worst thing I've seen though, just one where I really thought he should have respected my concern given the business he was in. I don't think people should be able to own guns if they're careless or hot tempered, or if they think owning a gun makes them a bad ass that can handle any situation. And that's just the 'normal' people. I also don't want addicts, unstable individuals or people with criminal tendencies to have guns. But those are just my thoughts and wishes, and not the reality of gun ownership in the US. Sheesh, it's been over 40 years since I first went through military weapons training and decades since I had to go to the range regularly to qualify, but even in my current state of dotage I still have vivid recollections of the first and probably most repeated instruction being to point the weapon only at the target and the dire consequences for anyone who did not observe that rule. That guy in the gun shop was an idiot.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jan 28, 2016 12:11:05 GMT -5
Well into my adult life, I thought I was afraid of guns. Then when I bought my own gun and started going to the firing ranges, I learned that I kind of liked shooting at paper targets and hitting the part of the target I was aiming for. And I realized I wasn't really afraid of guns themselves, I was actually afraid of careless people and bad people with guns. I'd seen many people be careless with guns, with the excuse that it wasn't loaded, or the safety was on, and I know many people have been shot with guns that "didn't" have a bullet in them. In one gun shop, the guy that was showing me guns was handling one and kept pointing it in my direction as he was telling me about it. I asked him to please stop pointing the gun my way. He got kind of irritated and told me it didn't have any bullets in it, his tone implied that a "dummy" was left off the end of the sentence. I told him it's not suppose to have bullets in it, but still don't point it at me. Maybe I was being ridiculous since it was a new gun that was always locked away and only handled by the store's employees or under their supervision, but I didn't really care. That's not the worst thing I've seen though, just one where I really thought he should have respected my concern given the business he was in. I don't think people should be able to own guns if they're careless or hot tempered, or if they think owning a gun makes them a bad ass that can handle any situation. And that's just the 'normal' people. I also don't want addicts, unstable individuals or people with criminal tendencies to have guns. But those are just my thoughts and wishes, and not the reality of gun ownership in the US. Sheesh, it's been over 40 years since I first went through military weapons training and decades since I had to go to the range regularly to qualify, but even in my current state of dotage I still have vivid recollections of the first and probably most repeated instruction being to point the weapon only at the target and the dire consequences for anyone who did not observe that rule. That guy in the gun shop was an idiot. I'll do you one even better, I have never had any gun training or handled one (Dad didn't bother when I was in his house and I've never felt the need to own one). Even I know that you never point a gun at someone unless you intend to kill them. Dad didn't hand me any guns to mess with/learn on but he emphasized that a great deal. An employee of a shop should know much better.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 28, 2016 12:57:48 GMT -5
I've never handled a gun either and I remember from D.A.R.E back in the 80's-90's they did a talk about guns and the cop kept constantly repeating that you NEVER point a gun at someone unless you intend to shoot. If this guy was just an employee I would have reported his behavior to his manager. If he's dumb enough to point a gun in customer's faces and insist it's fine what other stupid shit is he capable of?
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Post by gregintenn on Jan 28, 2016 13:22:14 GMT -5
I've never handled a gun either and I remember from D.A.R.E back in the 80's-90's they did a talk about guns and the cop kept constantly repeating that you NEVER point a gun at someone unless you intend to shoot. If this guy was just an employee I would have reported his behavior to his manager. If he's dumb enough to point a gun in customer's faces and insist it's fine what other stupid shit is he capable of? You don't know what you've been missing. Informal target shooting; especially when mixed with a bit of friendly competition is great fun.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 28, 2016 13:32:09 GMT -5
I agree, criminals and stupid people will always have guns.
And what they do with them overshadows what the cops and the well trained, responsible gun owners do with their weapons.
It's kind of like pit bulls. Pit bulls owned by responsible dog owners are well behaved, well adjusted, good family dogs. Unfortunately a lot of stupid people want a pit bull because they want an aggressive attack dog. They abuse them and train them to be mean. You only ever hear about the horrible pit bull attacks in the media - never about the sweet family dog pit bulls - so now everyone is afraid of pit bulls, even the nice, sweet family dogs pit bulls.
Same thing with guns- if stupid people didn't own them and do stupid things with them, if only well trained, responsible people owned guns, very few people would have a problem with guns. The gun isn't bad, just like the pit bull isn't bad - it's just that crazy people and stupid people tend to want to own pit bulls and guns and do stupid things with both of them.
AAAAAACK - I HAVE to address your comprehensive, generalized statement that I bolded above. I might have posted this here before, I don't remember.....we took an unwanted, barely old enough to be away from momma pit bull puppy that my exes boss had gotten as a gift. He didn't want it and was going to put it out in the back yard of his shop and leave it to be a mean, nasty shop dog. He had the dog IN the shop for a day or two before ex and I suggested that it was so tiny and alone that maybe a home with a family might be a better place for it. This dog lived for 1 1/2 years as a pampered, loved, coddled baby. It slept on my children's bed, played with the neighbor's kids, went camping with us...NOTHING but love was showered on this dog, along with our other lab mix. He went to obedience school, was neutered, vet checked...I could go on and on with how well this dog was treated and raised. One night my daughter came from the kitchen into our dining room and the dog went NUTS. He chased her into her bedroom, LAUNCHED himself across her bed and grabbed her by the thigh. She was screaming, I was yelling at the dog to let her go, ex was trying to grab the dog - who was trying to tear her thigh off. I grabbed a boot or something, I don't even remember what it was and beat the dog on the head until for whatever reason, HE decided to let go. This beloved pet sat on the floor looking at all of us with bewilderment in his eyes. HE had NO idea what he had just done. After his confinement with the vet for 10 days or whatever it was for a rabies check, he was put down. My daughter has scars from the bite on her leg, and while not terrified of dogs, certainly doesn't trust them any longer. I will NEVER be in a room with a pit bull/mix ever again, unless it is locked up. And nor will I ever allow anyone to make a statement that only "badly treated pit bull/mixes" go after people. Thank the goddess he did not get her by the throat and that he let her go. If I had had a gun that day, I would have shot him myself. So please, do some research on how many of these beloved family pets manage to kill family members. There was one years ago in the Lake Geneva area where the family thought they were being responsible with managing several pitts and their children. The dog ripped their toddler from mom's arms and killed him (?) in front of her. ENOUGH with this baloney that only bad dogs kill. Wow! I've never had a pit (only a beagle) but I've always heard pitty owners defend their animals as only as good as their owners make them. I didn't realize ones raised with love and affection could still turn like this.
Hmm, you learn new things every day on this board! (Not that I would ever have gotten a pit bull, anyway - my little beagle wouldn't mind me, I'm sure a pitbull would be even worse, and I don't want to be one of those helpless owners with a big dog they can't control).
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 28, 2016 13:33:13 GMT -5
I've never handled a gun either and I remember from D.A.R.E back in the 80's-90's they did a talk about guns and the cop kept constantly repeating that you NEVER point a gun at someone unless you intend to shoot. If this guy was just an employee I would have reported his behavior to his manager. If he's dumb enough to point a gun in customer's faces and insist it's fine what other stupid shit is he capable of? You don't know what you've been missing. Informal target shooting; especially when mixed with a bit of friendly competition is great fun. DH would like me to learn how to shoot but with my sense of aim he said it'll only happen if he's far far away from me first.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 28, 2016 13:40:41 GMT -5
I was just about to type up a post about how I am not totally anti-gun, but I would feel safer if guns were much harder to get and perhaps limited to people in rural areas (who can pass a background check) and need to defend themselves before assistance can arrive. Then I remembered this guy: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_David_Smith_killingsI was interested in this case when it happened because I could totally see my former stepdad doing something like this. He thinks he is a very responsible gun owner and carries a gun with him at all times. I am glad my mom divorced him, and I wonder sometimes what he will be like if he ever develops dementia. I live in a rural area, and we seem to have an elevated number of idiots with guns.
Just last weekend, a man and woman were fighting. (I assume drinking and/or drugs were involved). She walked to a neighbor's house and called someone to come get her. Then she left that house and began walking down the road. Idiot BF followed her, threatening her with his gun. A truck with two men stopped and offered her a ride. She got in. Idiot BF attempted to get in, but the truck drove away. Idiot BF began shooting his gun at the truck.
The driver of the truck was killed, the male passenger wounded, the woman wasn't hurt. Idiot BF is arrested.
Guns with domestic violence. Guns with alcohol. Guns with drugs. In our area, it's a frequent tragic thing. I can see wanting to have a gun to kill a poisonous snake, or a rabid animal, or a coyote that is preying on your sheep, but in our rural area, people are always using them for the wrong purposes.
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Post by steph08 on Jan 28, 2016 13:52:27 GMT -5
I agree, criminals and stupid people will always have guns.
And what they do with them overshadows what the cops and the well trained, responsible gun owners do with their weapons.
It's kind of like pit bulls. Pit bulls owned by responsible dog owners are well behaved, well adjusted, good family dogs. Unfortunately a lot of stupid people want a pit bull because they want an aggressive attack dog. They abuse them and train them to be mean. You only ever hear about the horrible pit bull attacks in the media - never about the sweet family dog pit bulls - so now everyone is afraid of pit bulls, even the nice, sweet family dogs pit bulls.
Same thing with guns- if stupid people didn't own them and do stupid things with them, if only well trained, responsible people owned guns, very few people would have a problem with guns. The gun isn't bad, just like the pit bull isn't bad - it's just that crazy people and stupid people tend to want to own pit bulls and guns and do stupid things with both of them.
AAAAAACK - I HAVE to address your comprehensive, generalized statement that I bolded above. I might have posted this here before, I don't remember.....we took an unwanted, barely old enough to be away from momma pit bull puppy that my exes boss had gotten as a gift. He didn't want it and was going to put it out in the back yard of his shop and leave it to be a mean, nasty shop dog. He had the dog IN the shop for a day or two before ex and I suggested that it was so tiny and alone that maybe a home with a family might be a better place for it. This dog lived for 1 1/2 years as a pampered, loved, coddled baby. It slept on my children's bed, played with the neighbor's kids, went camping with us...NOTHING but love was showered on this dog, along with our other lab mix. He went to obedience school, was neutered, vet checked...I could go on and on with how well this dog was treated and raised. One night my daughter came from the kitchen into our dining room and the dog went NUTS. He chased her into her bedroom, LAUNCHED himself across her bed and grabbed her by the thigh. She was screaming, I was yelling at the dog to let her go, ex was trying to grab the dog - who was trying to tear her thigh off. I grabbed a boot or something, I don't even remember what it was and beat the dog on the head until for whatever reason, HE decided to let go. This beloved pet sat on the floor looking at all of us with bewilderment in his eyes. HE had NO idea what he had just done. After his confinement with the vet for 10 days or whatever it was for a rabies check, he was put down. My daughter has scars from the bite on her leg, and while not terrified of dogs, certainly doesn't trust them any longer. I will NEVER be in a room with a pit bull/mix ever again, unless it is locked up. And nor will I ever allow anyone to make a statement that only "badly treated pit bull/mixes" go after people. Thank the goddess he did not get her by the throat and that he let her go. If I had had a gun that day, I would have shot him myself. So please, do some research on how many of these beloved family pets manage to kill family members. There was one years ago in the Lake Geneva area where the family thought they were being responsible with managing several pitts and their children. The dog ripped their toddler from mom's arms and killed him (?) in front of her. ENOUGH with this baloney that only bad dogs kill.
Is it possible that the dog had some sort of medical condition that caused this to happen? I just wonder if a brain tumor or something just as sinister was lurking in the dog that caused it to go haywire.
That is so sad and terrible, and I'm glad your daughter was/is okay!
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 29, 2016 19:10:39 GMT -5
@pinkcshmere-I just heard on the local news the police dropped the charges against the guy who allegedly assaulted the manager. Police said there was not enough evidence to go forward.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 19:15:55 GMT -5
@pinkcshmere -I just heard on the local news the police dropped the charges against the guy who allegedly assaulted the manager. Police said there was not enough evidence to go forward. Last I heard, he'd been indicted. I'll have to check into that. Thanks.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 29, 2016 19:18:19 GMT -5
Omg. I told you this would happen. That guy will be let out on the street to commit more mayhem.
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 29, 2016 22:58:25 GMT -5
Many police are not "gun people", and this is all the experience they ever have with a firearm. Police manage to shoot themselves as well as unintended targets with alarming regularity. Shall I start posting links? You can find more examples than you care to read with a quick google search. I just don't find it logical that you don't worry about these folks, but are somehow terrified I have a gun. I'm aware of all the accidental police shootings - this DESPITE all their training and vetting.
How much worse is it for civilians who don't have to do that training and aren't evaluated for their mental or physical fitness to have a gun, if we have all these police accidents?
Let me make it clear - if you are a responsible gun owner, I have no problem with you owning a gun. I don't know if you are one or not. It's all those people out there who are NOT responsible gun owners that scares me, and I live in the South so I am surrounding with plenty of people who do foolish things with their weapons. We average at least 2 children killed every year in our little county because momma or grandpa kept a loaded weapon in the living room where the kids play. One of my coworkers shot himself through his hand trying to clean his weapon. Lucky he didn't shoot his daughter who was in the room with him. I have a neighbor who likes to fire some big rapid fire weapon from his back deck into the woods behind his house, where neighbor kids like to play. Then there are the rednecks next door who get drunk and party most Saturday nights - I'm 100% more concerned that one of them will fire a weapon through the side of my house into my bedroom when I'm sleeping than I am that some cop will accidentally shoot me because he thinks I'm a criminal.
Happyhoix, why would live in an area that bad??
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Post by milee on Jan 30, 2016 7:13:32 GMT -5
I'm aware of all the accidental police shootings - this DESPITE all their training and vetting.
How much worse is it for civilians who don't have to do that training and aren't evaluated for their mental or physical fitness to have a gun, if we have all these police accidents?
Let me make it clear - if you are a responsible gun owner, I have no problem with you owning a gun. I don't know if you are one or not. It's all those people out there who are NOT responsible gun owners that scares me, and I live in the South so I am surrounding with plenty of people who do foolish things with their weapons. We average at least 2 children killed every year in our little county because momma or grandpa kept a loaded weapon in the living room where the kids play. One of my coworkers shot himself through his hand trying to clean his weapon. Lucky he didn't shoot his daughter who was in the room with him. I have a neighbor who likes to fire some big rapid fire weapon from his back deck into the woods behind his house, where neighbor kids like to play. Then there are the rednecks next door who get drunk and party most Saturday nights - I'm 100% more concerned that one of them will fire a weapon through the side of my house into my bedroom when I'm sleeping than I am that some cop will accidentally shoot me because he thinks I'm a criminal.
Happyhoix, why would live in an area that bad?? It's funny you bring that up, but that's what I keep thinking when Greg posts his stories about how often he feels threatened enough to need to pull his gun out.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 30, 2016 7:45:15 GMT -5
Yes but then you have other posters who think it's charitable to bring free housing into nice areas and turn them into not nice areas. Seeing this guy get away with beating someone up then let free to roam the streets makes me even more determined to not give up any means to protect myself.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 17:09:14 GMT -5
Omg. I told you this would happen. That guy will be let out on the street to commit more mayhem. I saw this earlier and was going to respond when I got home and say that while I still believe he was completely wrong for attacking her, I don't think it was some random thing and he just happened to choose her. Then, as I was leaving work today, someone told me that he was there, working. I didn't see him myself, I don't know if he just took it upon himself to come back or if he was cleared to come back. I don't know if the manager is back. Something clearly happened to her at work that day, she didn't end up laying in the floor bleeding just because. People saw that, and the trail of blood. She got a black eye with a gash above it some kind of way. She's not high on my list of favorite people, but I can't see her making up lies of this magnitude. I don't know what the hell is going on, I'm just like WTF?!
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Post by moneymaven on Jan 30, 2016 20:00:35 GMT -5
Omg. I told you this would happen. That guy will be let out on the street to commit more mayhem. I saw this earlier and was going to respond when I got home and say that while I still believe he was completely wrong for attacking her, I don't think it was some random thing and he just happened to choose her. Then, as I was leaving work today, someone told me that he was there, working. I didn't see him myself, I don't know if he just took it upon himself to come back or if he was cleared to come back. I don't know if the manager is back. Something clearly happened to her at work that day, she didn't end up laying in the floor bleeding just because. People saw that, and the trail of blood. She got a black eye with a gash above it some kind of way. She's not high on my list of favorite people, but I can't see her making up lies of this magnitude. I don't know what the hell is going on, I'm just like WTF?! Again, I think it's very unfortunate (and unreasonable) that your company isn't taking the safety of all employees seriously or communicating well.
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Post by gregintenn on Jan 30, 2016 22:24:21 GMT -5
I saw this earlier and was going to respond when I got home and say that while I still believe he was completely wrong for attacking her, I don't think it was some random thing and he just happened to choose her. Then, as I was leaving work today, someone told me that he was there, working. I didn't see him myself, I don't know if he just took it upon himself to come back or if he was cleared to come back. I don't know if the manager is back. Something clearly happened to her at work that day, she didn't end up laying in the floor bleeding just because. People saw that, and the trail of blood. She got a black eye with a gash above it some kind of way. She's not high on my list of favorite people, but I can't see her making up lies of this magnitude. I don't know what the hell is going on, I'm just like WTF?! Again, I think it's very unfortunate (and unreasonable) that your company isn't taking the safety of all employees seriously or communicating well. ...therefore, YOU are ultimately responsible for your own safety and protection. To entrust that to someone else is foolish.
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