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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 10, 2016 1:22:10 GMT -5
so, Democrats are favored to win the Senate back, but it looks very close. right now Sabato has it as a 47-47 tie. let's assume that Democrats and Republicans can put away the (47) each and look at the (6) remaining.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 10, 2016 1:39:35 GMT -5
8/9/16
Nevada = R+2.4% Indiana = NO POLLING Ohio = R+5.7% PA = D+0.5% NH = D+1.0% Florida = R +4.4%
so, right now, it looks like the GOP will hold onto it, or it will be a tie.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 10, 2016 1:53:35 GMT -5
note: this poll was never published, but here is the latest internal poll published for IN:
The July 12-14 survey of 602 likely voters by the Democratic Garin-Hart-Yang Research Group found 54 percent of Hoosiers want Bayh to be their next senator, 33 percent favor Young and 13 percent are undecided, with a margin of error of plus-or-minus 4.1 percent.
this is three weeks old.
so, right now, this is way too close to call. if it is a 50-50 split, then whoever wins the WH controls the Senate.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 10, 2016 20:48:22 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 10, 2016 21:01:27 GMT -5
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on Aug 11, 2016 19:11:29 GMT -5
so, Democrats are favored to win the Senate back, but it looks very close. right now Sabato has it as a 47-47 tie. let's assume that Democrats and Republicans can put away the (47) each and look at the (6) remaining. So if they do, would you rather a Democrat for President or someone else?
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 11, 2016 20:24:46 GMT -5
so, Democrats are favored to win the Senate back, but it looks very close. right now Sabato has it as a 47-47 tie. let's assume that Democrats and Republicans can put away the (47) each and look at the (6) remaining. So if they do, would you rather a Democrat for President or someone else? someone else.
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on Aug 13, 2016 8:22:06 GMT -5
So if they do, would you rather a Democrat for President or someone else? someone else. Things probably do work better when the government branches are split between different political powers.
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Post by tallguy on Aug 13, 2016 9:02:17 GMT -5
Back when we actually believed in a "loyal opposition" I would have agreed with you. Right-wingers lately have pretty much killed that idea. Opposition now is neither responsible nor constructive. It now seems to be more spite.
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on Aug 13, 2016 14:00:28 GMT -5
Back when we actually believed in a "loyal opposition" I would have agreed with you. Right-wingers lately have pretty much killed that idea. Opposition now is neither responsible nor constructive. It now seems to be more spite. "Left-wingers" were also obstructionists, especially during the last two years under Bush when they really did very little to actually improve anything and actually did whatever they could to keep things form improving...selective memory is a great thing. The reason I remember it is that's when I finally realized democrats were just as full of crap a republicans in saying one things but doing another...it's also when I stopped identifying as a Democrat because the only time either party seems to have any sense is when they are in the minority and complaining about all the things "the other party is doing" when they are just as guilty. So no, it's wasn't "right-wingers lately" that pretty much killed the idea.
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Post by tallguy on Aug 13, 2016 14:18:39 GMT -5
I will stipulate that both parties were moving away from it, but the Republicans pledged to oppose everything the current President did before he even took office. That sets a new low ANYWHERE. So yes, they pretty much killed the idea.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 13, 2016 14:33:01 GMT -5
here is another interesting graphic: www.electoral-vote.com/evp2016/Senate/sen_graph-2016.htmlit is basically a tie, with the nowcast at 51-49 GOP. i think that i must have missed a poll or two that they are catching, but i don't have the time to research it, except to say that i would trust this site- they were pretty much spot on in 2014.
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Post by tallguy on Aug 23, 2016 10:54:14 GMT -5
Well McConnell has now said that they may not vote to confirm a Justice to the Supreme Court even AFTER the election, so that can't help their cause. Sooner or later they have to stop obstructing and just do their jobs! Says who!
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 23, 2016 10:59:03 GMT -5
that should actually be the new GOP logo.
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 23, 2016 12:47:28 GMT -5
Well McConnell has now said that they may not vote to confirm a Justice to the Supreme Court even AFTER the election, ... deminmaine , I looked for a story on this and found nothing. Can you help me out please.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 23, 2016 22:18:31 GMT -5
Well McConnell has now said that they may not vote to confirm a Justice to the Supreme Court even AFTER the election, ... deminmaine , I looked for a story on this and found nothing. Can you help me out please. Billis-in a couple of weeks, look for a Time Magazine article titled 'Unpacking the court: is eight enough?' That is the article that Dem may be and DJ is referencing. Also-check your PMs.
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 24, 2016 10:52:28 GMT -5
deminmaine , I looked for a story on this and found nothing. Can you help me out please. billisonboard- I went back and re-checked the article last night. What it actually sez is- McConnell has said there will not be a vote before the election, and he won't commit to one even after it. It goes on to say that several conservative such and so's are also hoping that there will not be a vote after the election if Hillary wins. That is a bit different. My apologies for the over reach, and thanks for the query. As tennesseer suggests above, the content should be available online in a week or two as well. Wait, how can they refuse to vote on SCJ nominees? Is that even possible?
There's some old farts on the court, is the plan to just let them die off and not replace them as long as a dem is president
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 24, 2016 11:48:37 GMT -5
... Wait, how can they refuse to vote on SCJ nominees? Is that even possible? ... Wouldn't be interesting if the Supreme Court held the Senate in contempt for not voting on a nominee. Better yet, the POTUS nominates and Supreme Court allows the person to sit on the bench and make rulings. Can anyone say, "Constitutional Crisis"?
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 24, 2016 11:50:51 GMT -5
so much for respecting the constitution, eh?
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Aug 24, 2016 11:52:16 GMT -5
billisonboard- I went back and re-checked the article last night. What it actually sez is- McConnell has said there will not be a vote before the election, and he won't commit to one even after it. It goes on to say that several conservative such and so's are also hoping that there will not be a vote after the election if Hillary wins. That is a bit different. My apologies for the over reach, and thanks for the query. As tennesseer suggests above, the content should be available online in a week or two as well. Wait, how can they refuse to vote on SCJ nominees? Is that even possible?
There's some old farts on the court, is the plan to just let them die off and not replace them as long as a dem is president
that's how I took it.
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 24, 2016 11:58:21 GMT -5
so much for respecting the constitution, eh? I can respect, to a degree, the Senate holding hearings and voting down nominees until they get one that they feel is acceptable. That would be fulfilling their constitutional responsibility. But this total stonewall is ridiculous.
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Post by dondub on Aug 24, 2016 13:05:09 GMT -5
This is really no surprise at all.
Here is Mitch back in late 2008: "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for president Obama to be a one term president." The repos have put politics above governance ever since, including blocking a comprehensive immigration reform bill that would have tightened the borders. This is allegedly one of their big issues. Instead they have allowed it to fester for years.
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 24, 2016 13:18:44 GMT -5
so much for respecting the constitution, eh? I can respect, to a degree, the Senate holding hearings and voting down nominees until they get one that they feel is acceptable. That would be fulfilling their constitutional responsibility. But this total stonewall is ridiculous. That's the traditional way to get one that isn't (hopefully) too radical in either direction.
Refusing to consider any nominees at all is equivalent to holding your breath until you turn blue.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 24, 2016 15:55:02 GMT -5
i like the Times coverage of the election, but i am reluctant to use them, as some will claim that their bias impacts their reporting on this subject.
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