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Post by cereb on Jun 24, 2011 11:40:46 GMT -5
Thats just the first 2 Google search pages. Clearly, they are speaking out. some of you just aren't listening since it doesn't support your bias.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 24, 2011 11:49:38 GMT -5
Should be a wake up call. But thanks to PC it isn't. PC blind people cannot wake up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2011 12:00:17 GMT -5
A few are speaking out, and of those few I have researched some of them, and they have direct ties to radicals. So who do you believe? Then there are the erupting Muslim wars. WE are supporting the ones that want MORE Islamic rule, not less!! WHY are we doing that?? There are endless articles saying that the protesters in the ME/Africa, except for Iran, are all fighting to be MORE like Iran, while the people in Iran are saying it is a terrible way to live and they are DYING there to escape it. Explain that. Actually, forget it. It all over this board who is okay with the Islamist movement in the ME, with wiping out Israel, etc. We can talk all day long, and no one is going to change their mind, I guess until they all become like Iran, destroy Israel, and turn their focus on the USA and other "western" nations. Even then it seems many Americans will be okay with no more Israel, and seem to think our country really is evil, and deserves to be punished. Whatever.. not me. It seems for political reasons we are supporting the bad guys, and it sure isn't the first time we have done that, then turn on them, and then they come after us. Obama still has enough time left to do a lot of damage. I'm sure he will.
The oddest thing for me is that the more liberal a person is, the more likely you are to be targeted by Muslim extremists, and it is the liberals that support them the most. It's like many liberals do not even accept that there really IS Muslim extremism. I was reading a message board last night of radical Muslims. They seemed intelligent and educated, very well informed. Gave me the chills. A playground for intellectual types that say there is no Israel and talk about Jihad, and the means to reach their end-- which is world dominance of their RELIGION, a thing most liberals here seem very scornful of.
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Post by cereb on Jun 24, 2011 12:17:29 GMT -5
Krickitt, I remember 9/11 well enough. I am aware there are extremists. All American liberals are aware there are extremists. We have gigantic hole in the ground in Manhattan that is proof they exist.
Not all Christians want to blow up abortion clinics.
Not all Muslims want to fly planes into American skyscrapers.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 24, 2011 12:33:02 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2011 12:41:36 GMT -5
Yep. That's why I believe that Obama is intentionally keeping the people down, economy down, etc. It is necessary for the end goal. IMO, the more gov't dependents Obama can create through the economy, lax law on illegals and the border, whatever, the more votes he sees for himself in 2012. I don't look for anything to get better before the next elections. It will all come down to who votes, who is afraid NOT to vote for Obama, and people that get angry about the candidates and stay home on election day. It's all orchestrated, IMO.
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Post by cereb on Jun 24, 2011 12:46:11 GMT -5
Fuck it. I give up.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 24, 2011 12:54:26 GMT -5
Yep. That's why I believe that Obama is intentionally keeping the people down, economy down, etc. It is necessary for the end goal. IMO, the more gov't dependents Obama can create through the economy, lax law on illegals and the border, whatever, the more votes he sees for himself in 2012. I don't look for anything to get better before the next elections. It will all come down to who votes, who is afraid NOT to vote for Obama, and people that get angry about the candidates and stay home on election day. It's all orchestrated, IMO. it brings no satisfaction for me to say that this perception of things falls into the same category for me as those that think Bush planned 911.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 24, 2011 12:55:46 GMT -5
Krickitt, I remember 9/11 well enough. I am aware there are extremists. All American liberals are aware there are extremists. We have gigantic hole in the ground in Manhattan that is proof they exist. Not all Christians want to blow up abortion clinics. Not all Muslims want to fly planes into American skyscrapers. you can go even further: not all radical, fundamentalists do these things. a lot of them just want to fight for enough space to do their thing, and not have anyone else bother them about it. and then, there is Islamic Jiihad.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 24, 2011 12:57:29 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 24, 2011 13:03:43 GMT -5
Today I’m going to attempt to figure out why liberals hate Christianity so much, but don’t seem to have a problem with Islam
most US liberals are Christian. i guess the hack (ahem) writer of this doesn't know that.
he should maybe start by trying to figure out why he thinks all liberals hate Christians first before he expands his misconceptions any further.
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Post by cereb on Jun 24, 2011 13:06:02 GMT -5
"Today I’m going to attempt to figure out why liberals hate Christianity so much, but don’t seem to have a problem with Islam"
Stupid statement.
Matter of fact, the whole article is stupid. Simpletons write crap like that.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 24, 2011 13:07:13 GMT -5
"Today I’m going to attempt to figure out why liberals hate Christianity so much, but don’t seem to have a problem with Islam" Stupid statement. not only stupid, but insane. seriously. it takes some deep seeded bigotry to THINK these things, let alone put them in print.
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Post by cereb on Jun 24, 2011 13:08:48 GMT -5
"Today I’m going to attempt to figure out why liberals hate Christianity so much, but don’t seem to have a problem with Islam" Stupid statement. not only stupid, but insane. seriously. it takes some deep seeded bigotry to THINK these things, let alone put them in print. And then they count on the terminally stupid to pass it on.
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Post by cereb on Jun 24, 2011 13:10:03 GMT -5
Gullible people. Really.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 24, 2011 13:11:25 GMT -5
fear opens the door for all kinds of irrational ideas.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 24, 2011 13:11:48 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2011 13:12:15 GMT -5
That one (#192) always throws me, Marsha. Must be some historical thing that made them all Dems. Doesn't make sense. I mean, I get it that many Jewish people are not religious these days, but still, the history of the Jewish people is there. Guess some American Jewish people just don't see what it all has to do with them here and now. I almost married a Jewish guy about 6,7 years ago. His religion did not bother me, not did mine bother him, but politically we were total opposites. I was with him when i first started posting on boards, paying attention to politics, and I noticed the things he always said to me didn't mesh with how I feel about things. It never would have worked. We still E mail, and I love him a lot, but we don't talk politics. He is only "religious" on holidays if he is with his parents in San Diego. AND he is only "Jewish" if someone somewhere seems to slight Jews, but that does not apply to Israel.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 24, 2011 13:17:18 GMT -5
the neoconservatives and radical islamists ALSO have similar objectives: they want to instill a sense of moral superiority and purpose in their followers. does that mean that they propose the same means to that end? of course not. in fact, in terms of means, they are enemies. this sort of reading between the lines (in broken english, i might add) for radicals doesn't serve the interests of anyone.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 24, 2011 13:19:36 GMT -5
That one (#192) always throws me, Marsha. Must be some historical thing that made them all Dems. it throws you because it is largely, if not completely false.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 24, 2011 13:20:18 GMT -5
Many Jews are intellectuals, krickitt. It is part of human nature to think we are gods. It is how we are designed. Have you noticed that one generation rarely learns from the generation that came before? We are all born thinking we are the center of the world and that we know everything. In the Bible the serpent told Adam and Eve that if they ate the forbidden fruit they would become like God. Well they did eat it.
Intellectuals think they are little gods who can run the world and change the world. Communism, socialism, progressivism all appeal to that idea of course.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 24, 2011 13:45:57 GMT -5
Many Jews are intellectuals, krickitt. It is part of human nature to think we are gods. It is how we are designed. Have you noticed that one generation rarely learns from the generation that came before? We are all born thinking we are the center of the world and that we know everything. In the Bible the serpent told Adam and Eve that if they ate the forbidden fruit they would become like God. Well they did eat it. Intellectuals think they are little gods who can run the world and change the world. Communism, socialism, progressivism all appeal to that idea of course. but of course conservatism, neoconservatism, fundamentalism, etc don't have any of that, right? right.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 24, 2011 18:23:06 GMT -5
MSM is singularly uninterested in this very interesting story.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2011 18:26:06 GMT -5
No one can find a way to spin it because it is so messed up.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 24, 2011 18:28:54 GMT -5
Even the Middle Eastern papers are quiet about her. I guess I'll look it England. Doubt I'll find anything though. Friends in high places. "I have never seen press that is so protective of a human being before." ~ to quote Donald Trump.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 24, 2011 18:36:21 GMT -5
Fascinating, another Huma Abedin kidnapped and forced to marry. A more typical story and a far cry from the experience of Weiner's wife who is allowed to marry a Jew and encourage by an Imam to be patient with his failings. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7791653.stm
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Post by santorumolet on Jun 24, 2011 20:20:10 GMT -5
There was a time when I used to get upset at Muslim-haters. Now I don't. Being in the USA, I know that Muslim-haters can bitch and moan, but can't do anything to actually harm the Muslims in this country. heh heh heh
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 24, 2011 21:21:28 GMT -5
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