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Post by cereb on Jun 21, 2011 0:19:52 GMT -5
My gawd, what a bunch of crap. This thread is at least several minutes of my life I can never get back.
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Post by verrip1 on Jun 21, 2011 1:20:46 GMT -5
I wonder if a marriage performed by Bill Clinton is valid. Yes, if he also consummated it (droit du seigneur). Wow. He writes French. Who knows? Maybe English soon.
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Post by swamp on Jun 21, 2011 7:30:27 GMT -5
I'm oped's DH I'll probably get yelled at for doing this but here it is: Quoran(or Koran) is literally The Old Testament plus some. Mind the "some"! As in The Old Testament- eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth thing is valid . Taking revenge is normal and encouraged by the teachings. Other than that everything is about peace and prosperity. However in time some radical factions have evolved- ie Jihad. Just as much as the Crusades or the radical Christianism that we have today so there is each to its own fault. There is no difference between Christians and Muslims when it comes to radicalism. On the other hand we have the more "liberal" christians. What makes some people believe that there are no "liberal" muslims? Moreover, we are living in The USA, so everything goes. Mariage between races are accepted, in some places mariage between two of the same gender. Why should be mariage between two people of different religions be an exception? To that extent Huma and Anthony, fell in love and married(fairy tale?). Now that the things got bad they will probably split and that's that. End of story! Yeah I know, people would love something ugly and scary like "revenge of the sith" type but wow! they'll be dissapointed. They( the Weiner's) are both educated and progresive so if it comes to that they'll be each going on their merry ways. Huh! So much for the conspiracy theory!!! I think I love you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 10:55:52 GMT -5
I like him this week too swamp... so you can't have him... check back next week though ...
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 21, 2011 20:45:13 GMT -5
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Post by chiver78 on Jun 21, 2011 21:01:02 GMT -5
wow...negative spin from a conservative media group. who'd have thunk?
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Post by maui1 on Jun 22, 2011 11:09:16 GMT -5
i hope this was just a joke, but i am hearing that the weiner baby is bill's.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 22, 2011 11:11:19 GMT -5
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Post by mmhmm on Jun 22, 2011 11:43:53 GMT -5
For cripe's sake! The guy is in treatment and it's pretty unlikely he'll ever see a seat in congress again. His wife hasn't done anything to anyone. She's the victim here, in many ways, just as we are victims of his duplicity. Nevertheless, it seems to me this could be put on a back burner for awhile. Ms Weiner doesn't deserve to be discussed by all and sundry like a chunk of deli cheese. IMO, of course.
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Post by maui1 on Jun 22, 2011 11:45:54 GMT -5
hey, when you lay with dogs, you can't complain about having fleas.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 22, 2011 16:53:50 GMT -5
I find the whole thing (except Weiner's weiner) fascinating. It is an odd marriage, an odd situation, odd that she has relatives in Muslim Brotherhood. How could anyone say this is not interesting? It could be a flipping movie for crying out loud. This dhimmi attitude of trying to shut down any discussion of anything Islam is just stupid.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 22, 2011 16:58:52 GMT -5
After knowing a lot of people who run in political circles, I can't believe that she didn't desire a powerful life. She is a powerful employee of a very powerful person, and married a powerful person. She isn't naive enough to think that power like that isn't a double edged sword. If you are going to be in politics and marry a politician, you better be prepared to see your underpants hanging all over the place. You don't get the luxury of secrets and you don't get the luxury of privacy. If that is what you wanted, you should have climbed the corporate ladder and married another corporate exec.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 22, 2011 17:12:33 GMT -5
Oh funny missed this. . . LOL deli cheese ? googled to see if anyone was discussing deli cheese - lo and behold www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32547all and sundry ? Don't know if the rangers would like you calling them all and sundry, mmhmm. K for deli cheese. Woulda thought deli meat. . .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2011 17:38:04 GMT -5
Interesting article up there, Marsha, about the marriage. Yes, it could be a movie, couldn't it? Sure explains why they were seen in the grocery store all fine and dandy, with him humming songs.. I guess we will see. Having a Muslim Brotherhood plant high in our gov't does fit, though. Good grief.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2011 17:41:04 GMT -5
LOL on the truck people talking cheese!! And I thought OUR board was silly... ;D
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Post by mmhmm on Jun 22, 2011 19:21:56 GMT -5
Heh. I've never liked the term "meat" applied to people, Marsha. Somehow, it's just offensive to me, so I usually change it to cheese. Call me emo and over-sensitive. ;D
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Post by mmhmm on Jun 22, 2011 19:25:20 GMT -5
Oops. Sorry, Marsha. You may find all this fascinating. I don't. I find it incredibly boring. I don't get any thrill, at all, from poking around into other people's lives. Different strokes for different folks, only my type won't sling names at you for having a different opinion.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 22, 2011 19:47:53 GMT -5
Oops. Sorry, Marsha. You may find all this fascinating. I don't. I find it incredibly boring. I don't get any thrill, at all, from poking around into other people's lives. Different strokes for different folks, only my type won't sling names at you for having a different opinion. I guess you don't like reality tv or soap operas or movies or detective shows or talk shows or . . . . . . . One point of interest to many in this Weiner/Abedin marriage is questions about the very serious subject of national security of course. This isn't about gossip. There are legitimate questions arising from this. Not only did Weiner expose himself to blackmail, his marriage, which I had been unaware of, to a woman with direct familial connections to the terror group the Muslim Brotherhood raises a different kind of national security concern. That's not exactly cheap gossip about other people's private lives. I don't care about his weiner and I don't care about their sex life. I care about her connections to a terror group and what it might mean to the security of this nation. This attempt to change the subject on this and to shut down the discussion just reeks of more dhimmitude.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2011 20:05:14 GMT -5
It IS alarming. I bet Huma couldn't get high level security clearance if she just walked in unknown and applied for the SS or something. But, then again, neither could Obama. These are strange times we are living in when people with connections to terrorists can rise to such levels in a time of war against-- terrorism.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 22, 2011 20:33:18 GMT -5
Racist!
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Post by mmhmm on Jun 22, 2011 20:45:17 GMT -5
As a matter of fact, marsha, I detest reality TV and loathe soap operas. I don't watch television, at all. Don't care for most movies, unless the subject matter is of interest ... that's rare. While I agree the man's actions could have far-reaching consequences, that's all been talked to a fair-thee-well right here on these boards amongst people who can't do one blinking thing about any of it. The man's wife isn't, in any way, shape, or form, the issue. Chattering on about her ... that's gossip, and nothing more. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear no matter what color you dye it.
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Post by ameiko on Jun 22, 2011 21:54:54 GMT -5
If she was born and raised here maybe she and/or her parents are more progressive than the media wants people to think of all Muslims. If people were saying all this about her and she was Christian there would be a massive uproar about "stereotyping". Except that her mother is a member of the Muslim Brothergood (I guess their auxillary or what not). You have her brother and mother being both anti-American nutjobs; this at least casts some suspicion. If Muslims don't like the critical eye we cast on them, they shouldn't be slamming planes in our buildings and then dancing in the streets afterwords. They continue to block investigations into their society or recruitment efforts as well as build a victory mosque on the site of the towers. Good Americans do not do any of these things and thus we must look upon them with a critical eye given their actions and adherence to a creed that demands war against all other faiths.
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Post by ameiko on Jun 22, 2011 21:56:24 GMT -5
If she was born and raised here maybe she and/or her parents are more progressive than the media wants people to think of all Muslims. If people were saying all this about her and she was Christian there would be a massive uproar about "stereotyping". The fact that she has a high powered job and an education makes her a progressive Muslim. The Muslims who slammed buildings in the World Trade Center were engineers. The Muslim shrink who killed his fellow soldiers had a M.D. I bet Osama Bin Laden was pretty educated also. Clearly, education is not a shield against Muslim extremism.
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Post by ameiko on Jun 22, 2011 21:59:04 GMT -5
Curiously, the imam of the Islamic Cultural Center of New York (ICC), of which Ground Zero mosque Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is a trustee, is a man named Sheik Omar Abu-Namous. He is calling for Abedin to stand by Weiner.
Why would an imam encourage a Muslim woman to remain married to an unfaithful, Jewish man?
Feisal Rauf has a long history of Muslim Brotherhood ties to include;
Interesting... and so underreported.
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Post by ameiko on Jun 22, 2011 22:01:15 GMT -5
Clearly, you two have indisputable evidence that if she wasn't a spy, she would have been killed by her own people by now. I just don't understand why you are saying it here. I mean, since there is absolutely no other plausible explaination - get on the phone to Homeland security. I'm sure they are all dolts who know absolutely nothing about the religion of muslim, and would appreciate being schooled on the finer points of it, and would immediately look into her situation. But, we can't do anything about it. Neither her, or her boss is an elected official. Shoot, they didn't do anything about a foreign born Muslim sitting illegally in the Oval office. What do you think they'll do about a mere spy?
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Post by chiver78 on Jun 22, 2011 22:08:56 GMT -5
The fact that she has a high powered job and an education makes her a progressive Muslim. The Muslims who slammed buildings in the World Trade Center were engineers. The Muslim shrink who killed his fellow soldiers had a M.D. I bet Osama Bin Laden was pretty educated also. Clearly, education is not a shield against Muslim extremism. and I work with engineers in my day-to-day experience who are highly regarded industry-wide in their disciplines of engineering, yet are religious enough to argue with me that the Dan Brown book "the DaVinci Code" is borderline heresy. higher education, nor brilliance in one's field of study and practice is a shield to any religious extremism or fanaticism. it's not just reserved for Muslims.
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Post by chiver78 on Jun 22, 2011 22:11:51 GMT -5
Curiously, the imam of the Islamic Cultural Center of New York (ICC), of which Ground Zero mosque Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is a trustee, is a man named Sheik Omar Abu-Namous. He is calling for Abedin to stand by Weiner.
Why would an imam encourage a Muslim woman to remain married to an unfaithful, Jewish man?
Feisal Rauf has a long history of Muslim Brotherhood ties to include;Interesting... and so underreported. not for nothing, but is this Imam the leader of the congregation (sorry, I don't know the appropriate word) where Huma Abedin worships? if not, why should she listen to him? he isn't her spiritual leader. he's just feeding the tabloid machine, which you've clearly sopped up for regurgitation.
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Post by chiver78 on Jun 22, 2011 22:12:32 GMT -5
Shoot, they didn't do anything about a foreign born Muslim sitting illegally in the Oval office. What do you think they'll do about a mere spy? you don't really want to rehash this now, do you?
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Post by floodofsantorum on Jun 23, 2011 0:07:24 GMT -5
This thread gives me a lot of hope. Kudos to Huma Abedin for keeping the morons on the conservative side foam in their collective mouths. It is a great spectacle. I wished Weiner would stay in office and be a thorn in the side of the same morons, but unfortunately he resigned. But Huma Abedin remains, and is evidence that despite the religious bigotry of the right, America remains a secular country. The noticeable pain on part of the moronic right at that thought - secular America - is like pure gold. heh heh heh
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Post by floodofsantorum on Jun 23, 2011 0:08:11 GMT -5
Ameiko, How does it feel to have a foreign born Muslim in the White House and being unable to do anything? Does it make you feel impotent with rage? Tell me how you fell my friend, I am here for you.
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