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Post by azphx1972 on May 23, 2011 20:01:57 GMT -5
I agree Firebird. #thumbsup#
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 23, 2011 20:40:25 GMT -5
I think it's incredibly RUDE to keep anyone waiting, period. Besides, when I'm EARLY (oh, what a concept), I can psyche myself up, rehearse, etc. for whatever I'm about to engage in. I give myself big time advantage, time and time again... Early is on time. On time is late. Late is unacceptable.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 23, 2011 20:44:15 GMT -5
You've dated the entire female population?
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Post by busymom on May 23, 2011 20:51:33 GMT -5
Not me! I've been with DH for a long time! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on May 24, 2011 8:37:49 GMT -5
...:::"but the company uses time clocks on all employees, and others have been written up for being a few minutes late.":::...
If it is really the culture that a minute or two = absent, then that is a different story. Your original phrasing made it sound like you thought you could set rules for your superiors, and not many people are willing to tolerate being schooled by a subordinate, whether they are right or wrong.
...:::"Wasn't zib referring to herself?":::...
Probably to me.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on May 24, 2011 12:18:14 GMT -5
I am chronically early for everything, and pretty much live by a written schedule. With two jobs, it's the way life rolls. As much as I hate lateness in anyone else, I am understanding enough of life's realities to accept that stuff happens. People have kids who get sick, cars that break down, medical and dental emergencies, etc. I've learned to roll with other people's lateness when there is good and just cause. It helps when they call my cellphone and let me know that something's come up. I'm totally fine with that.
What really burns my bacon is people who are repeatedly late, or hours late without a phone call, or show up late and brush it off as if my time does not mean anything. I don't deal well with these folks. To me, that kind of thing means you don't care about your own time, let alone mine. When you waste time, it's a commodity you cannot retrieve.
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 24, 2011 12:48:40 GMT -5
I am chronically early for everything, and pretty much live by a written schedule. With two jobs, it's the way life rolls. As much as I hate lateness in anyone else, I am understanding enough of life's realities to accept that stuff happens. People have kids who get sick, cars that break down, medical and dental emergencies, etc. I've learned to roll with other people's lateness when there is good and just cause. It helps when they call my cellphone and let me know that something's come up. I'm totally fine with that. What really burns my bacon is people who are repeatedly late, or hours late without a phone call, or show up late and brush it off as if my time does not mean anything. I don't deal well with these folks. To me, that kind of thing means you don't care about your own time, let alone mine. When you waste time, it's a commodity you cannot retrieve. My SIL is always late...we are talking an hour or more late to dinners that I am hosting. I started telling her we were eating 30 to 60 minutes before we really were but she caught on to that and just bumps back her time. A few years ago I decided I was not going to stress over it. I told her what time we were eating and if they were there they could eat with us, otherwise they would be eating cold food. We ate without them several times before she realized I meant it when I said if you aren't here we are eating without you. I am anally prompt and it pisses me off when someone else thinks their time is more valuable than mine...
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Post by NancysSummerSip on May 24, 2011 13:02:57 GMT -5
That's one way to teach people a lesson, Miss T. Just go on without them. I really hate it when the chronically late ones are family, because stressing over them means the stress tends to stay with you. You can stop seeing late friends, but late family can be a little harder.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2011 13:06:32 GMT -5
"People have kids who get sick, cars that break down, medical and dental emergencies, etc."
Oddly, I find that most people these things happen to, it seems to happen to them a lot. And their back up plan to deal with it seems to be to inconvenience me. Either by not showing up for appointments with me or expecting me to take on extra workload for them. I don't do that for you twice. The second time shows me you make it a lifestyle and I am not compensating for it for you.
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Post by Taxman10 on May 24, 2011 13:07:07 GMT -5
I am chronically early for everything, and pretty much live by a written schedule. With two jobs, it's the way life rolls. As much as I hate lateness in anyone else, I am understanding enough of life's realities to accept that stuff happens. People have kids who get sick, cars that break down, medical and dental emergencies, etc. I've learned to roll with other people's lateness when there is good and just cause. It helps when they call my cellphone and let me know that something's come up. I'm totally fine with that. What really burns my bacon is people who are repeatedly late, or hours late without a phone call, or show up late and brush it off as if my time does not mean anything. I don't deal well with these folks. To me, that kind of thing means you don't care about your own time, let alone mine. When you waste time, it's a commodity you cannot retrieve. My SIL is always late...we are talking an hour or more late to dinners that I am hosting. I started telling her we were eating 30 to 60 minutes before we really were but she caught on to that and just bumps back her time. A few years ago I decided I was not going to stress over it. I told her what time we were eating and if they were there they could eat with us, otherwise they would be eating cold food. We ate without them several times before she realized I meant it when I said if you aren't here we are eating without you. I am anally prompt and it pisses me off when someone else thinks their time is more valuable than mine... so you like prompt anal?? :-)
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2011 13:09:21 GMT -5
"so you like prompt anal?? "
Isn't it the deal that those jokes stay on EE?
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Post by Taxman10 on May 24, 2011 13:16:16 GMT -5
"so you like prompt anal?? " Isn't it the deal that those jokes stay on EE? since you aren't a moderator anymore, we're allowed to wander over every now and then and make those jokes :-)
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Post by Epiphany on May 24, 2011 13:42:14 GMT -5
DH has a fit if we are even close to being late to anything and would rather sit in the car for 5-10 min or drive around than be late. But I want to tell you about my boss (owner of company). He is late to EVERYTHING that does not involve food or golf. He is consistently late for clients and if he has multiple meetings each one gets further and further back. Frankly I can't believe our clients put up with it because it is so blatantly disrespectful. His reasons are two fold - one highly disorganized and procrastinates and two - ego. I do believe it is a subconscious thing to make himself more important. If he has a 9am meeting, he'll rush into the office at 850am trying to gather stuff for the meeting than run out the door at 9:15. And then it continues. I HATE that type of person but really, we still have clients so it hasn't hurt him too bad over the years even though most are infuriated by it.
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Post by imawino on May 24, 2011 13:49:36 GMT -5
::Early is on time. On time is late. Late is unacceptable. ::
Why do people make up nonsensical bs like this and then proclaim it as fact? The truth is:
Early is early, on time is on time, and late is late. There's just no debating that, despite what anyone might believe.
Late can be unacceptable depending on how late, how often it happens, and what you are late for. But honestly I think that if you can't be flexible enough to deal with 5 minutes here and there, the problem is you.
(the "you" in this scenario is just a generic "you" by the way, no one get their knickers in a twist)
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Post by thyme4change on May 24, 2011 13:51:47 GMT -5
EE does whatever they want. They think it is cute.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2011 13:52:23 GMT -5
preach it, ima! ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by imawino on May 24, 2011 13:53:40 GMT -5
LOL, Jenny. So glad to see you back! How's the bun in your oven?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2011 13:55:29 GMT -5
EE does whatever they want. They think it is cute. correction: it IS cute. Don't hate. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by Taxman10 on May 24, 2011 13:56:28 GMT -5
EE does whatever they want. They think it is cute. correction: it IS cute. Don't hate. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) ![](http://us.social.s-msn.com/s/images/emoticons/thumbs_up.gif)
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Post by thyme4change on May 24, 2011 13:56:46 GMT -5
I guess we are all entitled to your opinion, eh?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2011 13:59:14 GMT -5
He's doing well. I think I'm going to sign him up for karate classes right after his first breath - at this rate, he'll start as a brown belt. But he has until August 3rd at 11:59pm to arrive or else I'm going home without him. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by NancysSummerSip on May 24, 2011 14:14:47 GMT -5
I have been placed in the position of "lifestyle target," so to speak, at a previous employer. Worked with a very nice girl who had a lot of family issues. I liked her personally, but she was out, late, leaving at odd hours, etc., to deal with this stuff. I wound up finishing a lot of her work. I solved the problem by finding another job, although there were many other reasons I left.
I don't judge all circumstances the same way, and as much as I hate repeat offenders, I know people do run into long rough stretches in their lives. People have chronically ill children, spouses or parents, for example. I don't relish the idea of a double workload for extended periods, but I hope I was raised as a sufficiently compassionate individual to accept that if I need to help, I can and I will, and expect nothing in return.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 24, 2011 15:58:20 GMT -5
If someone invites you to their house at 7 pm, and you show up at 6:30 - that is really rude. 30 minutes before company, I'm standing in the kitchen in my underpants chopping up the last of the vegetables. My hair is wrapped in a towel, I don't have any make-up on, my husband is at the store picking up the last 3 things I forgot, I still need to clean up the 5 things I spilled earlier in the day, and I'm not done picking up the dirty socks that outnumber the number of people x number of days since I last did it. Give me a break - if I said 7 pm - I mean between 7 and 7:30, not "any time on Saturday." That sounds about right. My grandma is perpetually early. We always joke that if we want her there at 7 on Saturday we should tell her noon on Sunday.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 24, 2011 16:06:54 GMT -5
::Early is on time. On time is late. Late is unacceptable. :: Why do people make up nonsensical bs like this and then proclaim it as fact? The truth is: Early is early, on time is on time, and late is late. There's just no debating that, despite what anyone might believe. Late can be unacceptable depending on how late, how often it happens, and what you are late for. But honestly I think that if you can't be flexible enough to deal with 5 minutes here and there, the problem is you. (the "you" in this scenario is just a generic "you" by the way, no one get their knickers in a twist) Of course it's true. It means that you need to leave yourself some margin for error. If you plan on being right on time, and the slightest thing goes wrong, you're late, so you should plan on being early. Of course it's not literally or technically true that if you're supposed to be there at 7:00 and you're there at 7:00, you're late, it's simply a way of thinking that ensures you're not late. But I will say this: 7:00 means 7:00 and ready to work (speaking professionally). It doesn't mean rolling up at 7, looking for a parking spot at 7, it doesn't mean sitting down at 7. Put bluntly, if you're just sitting down at 7:00 for a 7:00 meeting-- you're late and that, my friend, is a fact.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2011 20:59:23 GMT -5
Oh, this thread reminded me of my ex. While I make it a point to be a couple of minutes early for everything, he took it to an extreme. One evening we had dinner plans with one of his clients, who was also a friend. Dinner was scheduled for 7, in a town 35 minutes away. He decided we needed to leave at 6:00, and at 6:01 he pulled out of my work parking lot and headed off on his own.
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Post by Colleenz on May 25, 2011 9:23:15 GMT -5
Didn't Paul do this to his wife once leaving her no way to get to a wedding, or am I thinking of another poster?
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2011 9:56:09 GMT -5
no you're right, colleen - WCP/PBP did do that to his wife. That woman is a saint.
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Post by zibazinski on May 25, 2011 10:17:09 GMT -5
My mom likes to pull this, makes her feel important that people will "wait" for her. I had dinner at my house one time and we called them to see where they were because everyone was there and the meal was ready to be served. "on her way" was the story. The fact was she hadn't even left yet because when she finally showed up, we were all on dessert. She was FURIOUS but for once the douche canoe she is married to said he was going to sit down and eat and if she wanted to flounce off because we didn't wait 45 minutes for her, she was welcome to walk home. She sulked but we all just kept a straight face. BTW, she was on time to my house anyway after that!!!!!
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Post by thyme4change on May 25, 2011 10:37:53 GMT -5
My goodness - it appears as if there are loony-birds on both sides of the issue. Sure, late people are irritating - but 6:01 being an all-out war zone? I know why that guy is your "ex."
Can't people just be reasonable?
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Post by midjd on May 25, 2011 10:43:33 GMT -5
Look who you're asking... ![](http://boards.msn.com/Themes/default/emoticons/tongue_smile.gif)
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