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Post by gsbrq on May 23, 2011 15:50:58 GMT -5
We don't. Only the whackadoodles you date have that need. The entire female population are wackadoos? As a side note, most if not all women I have dated are better looking then you, in much better shape and also much more highly educated. They also have personalities. Hard to imagine why your "dates" always seem to drag their heels, when a charmer like you awaits them.
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Post by Firebird on May 23, 2011 15:58:18 GMT -5
I can't stand lateness in any context. Professionally, it makes me think very little of people - socially, it makes friends less important to me over time.
One of my best friends in the world used to have a lateness problem, and it was almost enough to outweigh her numerous good qualities and cause me to end the friendship. She would blow off plans at the last minute, show up two hours late to the simplest thing, and just in general act like it didn't matter at all to her if she saw me or not (it wasn't just me, she did this to everyone).
I was hoping once we were out of high school that she would get better - since she would have to start showing up on time for work if nothing else. It took a long time, but she got there in the end. Those intervening years were rough, though.
Chronic late people have no respect for other people. There's no better way to singlehandedly destroy your first impression on someone, or kill a relationship of any kind.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on May 23, 2011 16:03:47 GMT -5
...:::"But 1 minute is beyond crazy IMO.":::...
And if I were that boss, I would make you prove your watch was synched perfectly to the Naval Observatory time. Maybe you actually left before the meeting started, therefore blew off a commitment.
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Post by Urban Chicago on May 23, 2011 16:03:47 GMT -5
I hate it when anyone is late. In social situations, I have stopped asking people who are habitually late, as it makes it rough on everyone.
I was honest with them when they asked why they were being excluded, and I replied that we'd be happy to include you again, IF AND ONLY IF you will commit to arriving on time. Got every one of them back, and plans are sooo much easier now.
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Post by Firebird on May 23, 2011 16:21:34 GMT -5
brdsl, I ask this in all seriousness.....do you have Asperger's? One single minute is grounds to leave, even when the meeting is with your boss? That is a pretty serious black and white rule that seems like it would lead to real social problems.
Oddly, that crossed my mind too.
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Post by brdsl on May 23, 2011 16:54:24 GMT -5
"brdsl, I ask this in all seriousness.....do you have Asperger's? One single minute is grounds to leave, even when the meeting is with your boss? That is a pretty serious black and white rule that seems like it would lead to real social problems. "
No. Not that I am aware of. I used to wait for others, and allow them to be as late as necessary. I went to a trade school that demanded you be on time. One minute late, you were late...it was marked as absent. Two of those in a 45 day course, you were out. Being on time became very important to me.
WWBG. The incident with the boss, I had to swipe my badge to get into and out of the building. It records the time. It also recorded the time he entered and exited. So, no Naval time needed.
Looking back, it probably wasn't a smart thing to do, but the company uses time clocks on all employees, and others have been written up for being a few minutes late.
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Post by thyme4change on May 23, 2011 17:01:14 GMT -5
If someone invites you to their house at 7 pm, and you show up at 6:30 - that is really rude. 30 minutes before company, I'm standing in the kitchen in my underpants chopping up the last of the vegetables. My hair is wrapped in a towel, I don't have any make-up on, my husband is at the store picking up the last 3 things I forgot, I still need to clean up the 5 things I spilled earlier in the day, and I'm not done picking up the dirty socks that outnumber the number of people x number of days since I last did it.
Give me a break - if I said 7 pm - I mean between 7 and 7:30, not "any time on Saturday."
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Post by Firebird on May 23, 2011 17:02:22 GMT -5
Still a pretty ballsy way to deal with one's boss. I really hate lateness but not enough to need to make the point THAT strongly. Mostly it just goes in my little mental notebook about people if they're consistently late.
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Post by Firebird on May 23, 2011 17:03:12 GMT -5
If someone invites you to their house at 7 pm, and you show up at 6:30 - that is really rude. 30 minutes before company, I'm standing in the kitchen in my underpants chopping up the last of the vegetables. My hair is wrapped in a towel, I don't have any make-up on, my husband is at the store picking up the last 3 things I forgot, I still need to clean up the 5 things I spilled earlier in the day, and I'm not done picking up the dirty socks that outnumber the number of people x number of days since I last did it. Wow, and you're going to be ready to roll by 7? I am impressed.
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Post by busymom on May 23, 2011 17:03:39 GMT -5
Being on time is hugely important, especially in this economy, where almost anyone can experience a layoff at a moment's notice. My company is still getting rid of those who are chronically late. My boss actually remarked to me recently that one of her favorite things about me, is I'm always at least 10 minutes early to work. Yes, they do keep track!
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Post by sil on May 23, 2011 17:07:54 GMT -5
Early party guests are the worst! Especially when they pace around in your kitchen, looking at their watches and wondering why you havent put out any food yet. And asking "can I help with anything?" is just their annoying way of pointing out that you aren't attending to them.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2011 17:09:00 GMT -5
I don't know anyone that does not find it insulting to be kept waiting. People that are chronically late pay for it whether they realise it or not. At the very least other people are not motivated to go the extra distance for you.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2011 17:11:35 GMT -5
Ok, I amend that for when I am having a party. Like Thyme said, 7 means between 7 and 7:30.
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Post by thyme4change on May 23, 2011 17:13:58 GMT -5
You know it - we are a well oiled machine. I need 17 minutes to do my hair, my makeup and get dressed. The socks are picked up on my way from kitchen to the bedroom, and my husband gets the 5 things that were spilled when he gets back from the store. 6:59 - we are near disaster - 7 pm, warm and welcoming hosts!
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Post by lulubean on May 23, 2011 17:21:32 GMT -5
Oh my, I got your back swamp, that was uncalled for, I am surprised at Chuckie.
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Post by lulubean on May 23, 2011 17:22:25 GMT -5
Oh my, I got your back swamp, that was uncalled for, I am surprised at Chuckie.
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Post by thyme4change on May 23, 2011 17:23:21 GMT -5
You are surprised at SF's comments? Have you never read any of his comments before?
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Post by lulubean on May 23, 2011 17:59:33 GMT -5
SF you are generally very aggresive with your disdain for women in general. I don't know if you just know strange women or you really don't understand women but you have posted often about your negative views of women. Seeing as you are a long time poster most of us ( I know I do) ignore that part of you because you have otherwise good advice for this forum. That in particular was the single handed most nastiest post I have read and I have read a lot of veiled nastiness.
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Post by thyme4change on May 23, 2011 18:20:24 GMT -5
I have a theory on SF's women. I think he does get reasonably attractive females, and possibly even educated and attractive - but not the good ones. I think that dating in your own league has a lot more to do with just looks. And even if he can get someone that looks like they might be the league up, they aren't because they aren't really high quality women. So, SF, not wanting to believe he could actually get a decent person to date him, sticks with the "looks good on paper" version of women. But, they are actually cracked. I bet he has been rejected by the ones that can function without medication.
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Post by zibazinski on May 23, 2011 18:23:15 GMT -5
He isn't the only one that hates women, in case you haven't noticed.
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Post by thyme4change on May 23, 2011 18:26:31 GMT -5
Well - I hate half the population also - I'm just more creative than to say it is the due to gender.
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Post by Firebird on May 23, 2011 18:28:13 GMT -5
He isn't the only one that hates women, in case you haven't noticed.
Yeah, there is no shortage of misogyny on this board.
Fortunately, we've got plenty of good guys too.
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Post by thyme4change on May 23, 2011 18:29:31 GMT -5
Wasn't zib referring to herself?
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Post by Firebird on May 23, 2011 18:45:08 GMT -5
Mrow!
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Post by thyme4change on May 23, 2011 18:46:57 GMT -5
Nyan
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Post by whoisjohngalt on May 23, 2011 18:48:32 GMT -5
I wouldn't dare to be late if I was meeting clients. I "try" not to be late for doctor's appts. I was ALWAYS late for work. Dating?? Well, I usually wasn't late and didn't mind waiting a few minutes, BUT!!! if "you" are late and don't even bother to acknowledge it and apologize, we are done.
I am craving for days when I was able to get out of the house in 5 minutes.
Lena
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Post by TheOtherMe on May 23, 2011 19:43:45 GMT -5
I have always prided myself on being on time. There had to be a very good reason for me to be late to work--like my car broke down or a major snowstorm. I would leave an hour early during a snowstorm and often made it to work on time. My car breakdowns happened pre-cell phone days. Now if that happened to me, I'd be on the cell phone to my boss so that they would know. Last time I thought a snow storm was going to make me late, I ended up being the first person in the office. I am not late for doctor's or dentist's appointments. Their time is important. I don't like waiting, so I don't want to make them late for the next patient. I'm another one who has dropped friends over constant tardiness. My time has value.
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Post by azphx1972 on May 23, 2011 19:52:50 GMT -5
I know of people who are punctual for work related meetings, but are habitually late for personal stuff. I'm sort of the opposite in that I value my friendships more than work, but I'm never late by more than 5-10 minutes unless I've worked all night and slept through my alarm in the morning. And I always call if I know I'm going to be late for personal appointments; at work it's not such a big deal since we're more results oriented.
BTW, isn't there an unspoken rule that we should always be nice to each other on this board? I know it's anonymous, but it could make things a little awkward if people were to meet in person (like at the YM Summit, for example). #buddies#
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Post by Firebird on May 23, 2011 19:59:12 GMT -5
BTW, isn't there an unspoken rule that we should always be nice to each other on this board? I know it's anonymous, but it could make things a little awkward if people were to meet in person (like at the YM Summit, for example). If there isn't, there should be. One of the reasons I like this board is that we can have heated discussions and still clap each other on the back at the end of the day. Other boards are downright vicious when there are disagreements - they go straight for the personal attacks.
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