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Post by RoadToRiches on May 23, 2011 14:34:26 GMT -5
His dates probably have 5 Phd's... that's a beauty of it.. you can put whatever you want in your craigslist's add lol
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Post by swamp on May 23, 2011 14:34:40 GMT -5
WWBG has a good point... I always heard that if you need the other person to be there, arrive 5 minutes early... if the other person needs you to be there, arrive 5 minutes late. That requires entirely too much though. Aiming for "on time" seems to work for me. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2011 14:37:26 GMT -5
I think Miss Manners defines the acceptable arrival window as no more than 5 minutes before the scheduled arrival time and no more than 8 minutes after. (Or something like that - I'm too lazy to google) For social stuff though, I think it is just as rude to show up too early as it is to show up late.
I am always on time for meetings, but I am lousy at arriving on time in the morning if I don't have an appointment. I have a very punctual boss, so I suspect the fact that I stay past 6 doesn't carry as much weight as the irritation that I arrive at 5 after 9. I need to work on that.
In my foolish youth (before online bill pay), I got burned by a couple of credit card late charges - not because I didn't have the money, but I would just forget to put the thing in the mail. The real danger of which is that it gave them permission to reset my interest rates. Back when I was carrying a balance, that hurt!
I've also had parking tickets increase because I wouldn't get them paid within a week. I've paid more than my share of stupidity tax on dumb stuff like that.
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Post by Anne_in_VA on May 23, 2011 14:37:30 GMT -5
I'm almost never late and I have others who are late. My mom was habitually late, to the point where if I invited her over for dinner and I expected to eat at 5 pm, I'd tell her we were eating at 4. She was always at least 1/2 hour late and was often an hour or more late.
I dislike being late so much that I feel ill if I know I'm going to be late. On the other hand, I hate being the first to arrive since it feels as if I've inconvenienced the person by showing up a few minutes early, so it's a balancing act for me between arriving early or on time.
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Post by achelois on May 23, 2011 14:38:56 GMT -5
I cannot recall ever having been late for anything. (I admit to a bit of OCD).
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on May 23, 2011 14:39:16 GMT -5
His dates probably have 5 Phd's... that's a beauty of it.. you can put whatever you want in your craigslist's add lol
Most have graduate degrees...several had doctorates and/or were in a doctorate program somewhere. Current GF has a masters in Marketing and Economics. Applied to and was accepted to a doctorate program.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2011 14:39:47 GMT -5
I am almost always early and it pains me when I'm running late. When I have back to back meetings in different buildings I make sure the first meeting knows that I need to wrap up my part 10 minutes early to make the next meeting on time.
I look down on people who are alway late - a coworker of mine does this. It gets mentioned every review cycle too, but management takes no action other than to not promote him. Eventually he'll be pushed forward because that's how the machine operates, but it will be 7-8 years between promotions instead of 2-3.
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Post by brdsl on May 23, 2011 14:41:03 GMT -5
Agreed with all of the above. If I am to meet someone at 5:00 PM. I am there at 5PM, if they do not call, and let me know they will be late, I am gone at 5:01PM. One minute late and you cancel? Don't you think that's just a tad unnecessary? Despite what you may think, cell phones do not have 100% penetration in this country. And even so, not everyone's phone is synchronized to the same time. One person's clock might say 4:56, while another person's clock says 5:01. I'm glad I've never encountered anyone like you. I don't cancel. I was there, they were not. Two reasons I am strict. 1) How long do you wait? 5 min, 10 min? If I see you pulling up, I won't walk away. But I find it useless to wait around 30 minutes for someone that may or may not show. I find they do not make the mistake the second time. 2) My time is valuable to me. I have a limited amount of it, and I am not going to waste it on someone that does not value their time.
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Post by midjd on May 23, 2011 14:41:44 GMT -5
SF, one question - who cares? Anyone who spends as much time as you do extolling the virtues of your numerous girlfriends on an anonymous online forum is overcompensating for something. Forgive me, but I really don't think any of us care who or what you date.
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Post by RoadToRiches on May 23, 2011 14:43:38 GMT -5
His dates probably have 5 Phd's... that's a beauty of it.. you can put whatever you want in your craigslist's add lol Most have graduate degrees...several had doctorates and/or were in a doctorate program somewhere. Current GF has a masters in Marketing and Economics. Applied to and was accepted to a doctorate program. You don't have to explain yourself to me ;D I really could careless, besides, at your age, I am pretty sure your ladies are all educated and well off. They had plenty of time to accomplish all that.
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 23, 2011 14:51:15 GMT -5
We don't. Only the whackadoodles you date have that need. The entire female population are wackadoos? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) As a side note, most if not all women I have dated are better looking then you, in much better shape and also much more highly educated. They also have personalities. Wow, what a douchy thing to say to someone....
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Post by brdsl on May 23, 2011 14:52:26 GMT -5
"You are lucky he had the personality to be able to deal with this. I could see somebody making you wait until 5:10 the next time, and writing you up for failing to show."
He didn't have the personality to deal with it. He wrote me up. I explained to him and his boss that timeliness is a requirement of the position, as listed on every employees review. The reprimand letter was an error...according to the letter I received later.
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on May 23, 2011 14:52:45 GMT -5
Wow, what a douchy thing to say to someone....
You referring to Swamp's condescending comment?
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Post by brdsl on May 23, 2011 14:52:53 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2011 14:52:49 GMT -5
I use to be late for everything. Then I got a job that was serious about starting time. Learning to make sure I got to work on time eventually spilled over into life in general.
I still don't make it anywhere *on time*. I'm either early or late. When it matters, I prefer early. I'm used to sitting in my car for a few minutes until it's time to make my appearance.
And I HATE waiting on other people. LOL
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Post by doxieluvr on May 23, 2011 14:54:14 GMT -5
I am ridiculously punctual ALL the time. For instance, I am at work 30 mins early every day. I have not found it benefits me in my career. The girl that is 10 minutes late everyday is the chosen golden employee. Go figure. Personally i like being early. The only time i am ever lare fir anything is if i try to cram too much in a day and i get held up on the road. Leaving work at 4:30 and picking up my daughter for her activity by 5:15 does not always work. I cant control traffic so I just do my best.
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 23, 2011 14:54:41 GMT -5
Wow, what a douchy thing to say to someone.... You referring to Swamp's condescending comment? No, yours. To attack someone personally like that is just douchy (or is it "douchey"...I don't want the spelling police to attack me!!!)
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Post by Taxman10 on May 23, 2011 15:01:16 GMT -5
....but my dad can beat up your dad! Pfft, I can beat up your dad. ![](http://boards.msn.com/Themes/default/emoticons/tongue_smile.gif) I'd let you beat me up....no matter what SF says -- i think your sexy :-)
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Post by swamp on May 23, 2011 15:03:04 GMT -5
Pfft, I can beat up your dad. ![](http://boards.msn.com/Themes/default/emoticons/tongue_smile.gif) I'd let you beat me up....no matter what SF says -- i think your sexy :-) Apparently you have stellar taste in women. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Chocolate Lover on May 23, 2011 15:03:06 GMT -5
Wow, what a douchy thing to say to someone.... You referring to Swamp's condescending comment? No, yours. To attack someone personally like that is just douchy (or is it "douchey"...I don't want the spelling police to attack me!!!) ![](http://us.social.s-msn.com/s/images/emoticons/thumbs_up.gif) Made even more douchey by the fact that I'm pretty sure he's most likely seen her FB pics and profile.
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Post by brdsl on May 23, 2011 15:03:19 GMT -5
Back to the OP a little bit.
How important is it to financial success?
I think people who are late all the time, are simply unorganized. I think organization is mandatory in any business, otherwise it can cost you time...and time is money.
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Post by ❤ mollymouser ❤ on May 23, 2011 15:04:28 GMT -5
I think punctuality is important. And I endeavor to be on time, always. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 23, 2011 15:05:44 GMT -5
Pfft, I can beat up your dad. ![](http://boards.msn.com/Themes/default/emoticons/tongue_smile.gif) I'd let you beat me up....no matter what SF says -- i think your sexy :-) I think "I'd beg you to beat me up" is more like it!
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Post by cme1201 on May 23, 2011 15:07:06 GMT -5
My Grandfather had a saying.
If you are early, you're on time. If you are on time, you're late. If you are late, don't bother going.
Every minute that is wasted is one minute that you can not get back (for family, fun or money), plan your time know what needs to be done and when, that way you are never caught unaware.
I joined the Army when I was 16 so it was easy for early life to mix with military life which gave me this life, ;D
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Post by Taxman10 on May 23, 2011 15:10:56 GMT -5
I'd let you beat me up....no matter what SF says -- i think your sexy :-) Apparently you have stellar taste in women. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) 2 of the sexiest women I know I met on YM :-) ...and right on time too :-)
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Post by Taxman10 on May 23, 2011 15:12:06 GMT -5
I'd let you beat me up....no matter what SF says -- i think your sexy :-) I think "I'd beg you to beat me up" is more like it! potato/puhtato/vodka..... :-)
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on May 23, 2011 15:12:17 GMT -5
...:::"He didn't have the personality to deal with it. He wrote me up. I explained to him and his boss that timeliness is a requirement of the position, as listed on every employees review. The reprimand letter was an error...according to the letter I received later.":::...
But you said it yourself, how long do you wait, and why. The details do matter of course. I do agree that you teach people what they can get away with, and being strict up front is MUCH easier than having to retrain someone later.
But there are lots of things a boss can legally do to pay back that kind of attitude with interest. If you had done that to me, especially gone over my head and gotten the writeup pulled, I'd probably make it a personal mission to get you back for it.
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Post by Waffle on May 23, 2011 15:12:52 GMT -5
2) My time is valuable to me. I have a limited amount of it, and I am not going to waste it on someone that does not value their time. They probably value their time - they don't value yours. As for me, I'm habitually late for work - I've had the misfortune for about the last 7 years of working for bosses who were habitually late and told me it didn't matter if I was late. I get paid for results. (their words not mine).
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Post by imawino on May 23, 2011 15:17:51 GMT -5
SF, in addition to being a full-out personal attack that was unconscionably bad-mannered. Far worse than all of us women who apparently keep our dates waiting. I've never had a complaint. Find a date worth waiting for. It's not Swamp's fault that you dated someone who showed off her crazy to everyone on this board, so don't take it out her.
brdsl, I ask this in all seriousness.....do you have Asperger's? One single minute is grounds to leave, even when the meeting is with your boss? That is a pretty serious black and white rule that seems like it would lead to real social problems.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2011 15:18:24 GMT -5
One minute late and you cancel? Don't you think that's just a tad unnecessary? Despite what you may think, cell phones do not have 100% penetration in this country. And even so, not everyone's phone is synchronized to the same time. One person's clock might say 4:56, while another person's clock says 5:01. I'm glad I've never encountered anyone like you. I don't cancel. I was there, they were not. Two reasons I am strict. 1) How long do you wait? 5 min, 10 min? If I see you pulling up, I won't walk away. But I find it useless to wait around 30 minutes for someone that may or may not show. I find they do not make the mistake the second time. 2) My time is valuable to me. I have a limited amount of it, and I am not going to waste it on someone that does not value their time. 30 minutes is one thing... I can even see 10 minutes depending on how busy you are. But 1 minute? Really??? I have no problem waiting 5-10 minutes for someone. Things happen. But 1 minute is beyond crazy IMO.
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