THIS dumbass is our new speaker?

[tallguy]

Dec 4, 2023 9:57:50 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Dec 4, 2023 9:31:44 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Never said that. But you can vote third party and still get the outcome you wish.

The issue is you do not understand the danger of Trump. In your dream world, Biden is worse than Trump. So you can not vote for Trump, yet still get what you want. Trump is clear and present danger to the future of the US, a fact you refuse to accept. If you lived in a state where the election was in doubt, would you vote third party and risk Biden winning? I doubt it. So, your third party vote is performative

Sounds quite like the process I take in my voting decisions. I do love to perform.

Better perhaps to join a community theatre troupe?

[Tennesseer]

Joe Biden Impeachment Looks More Likely After Walmart Confrontations: Comer

Representative James Comer, chairman of the House Oversight and Accountability Committee, said on Sunday that an impeachment of President Joe Biden looks more likely after House Republicans heard from their constituents at Walmart over the Thanksgiving holiday.

The GOP has been investigating Biden over allegations that he intervened and benefited from his son Hunter Biden's business dealings with China and Ukraine while he was vice president under former President Barack Obama, including accusations of taking bribes. The allegations have been denied by the White House and Hunter Biden's lawyers, with Democrats criticizing the GOP's impeachment inquiries for failing to find any meaningful evidence against the president.

Once the impeachment inquiry is complete, the Judiciary Committee will decide on whether to draw up any draft impeachment articles against Biden to be voted on by the House. Comer has said that a vote could take place by early 2024.

While appearing on Fox News' Sunday Morning Futures With Maria Bartiromo, Comer, a Kentucky Republican, was asked by Bartiromo if he feels like he has enough votes within the House for a formal impeachment inquiry against Biden.

Comer responded that moderate House Republicans are more willing to vote for a Biden impeachment inquiry now because they went home over Thanksgiving and heard from their constituents at Walmart.

"I do. I had a reporter ask, 'What's changed?' I tell you one thing that's changed. A great thing happened during Thanksgiving. The members went home, many of them for the first time, and circulated for the first time in over 10 weeks. And they met people in Walmart and people on Main Street. So they heard from their constituents. They were like, 'What in the world have the Bidens done to receive millions and millions of dollars from our enemies around the world and did they not pay taxes on it?' So they heard from their constituents, 'Yes we want you to move forward, we want to know the truth and expect the Bidens to be held accountable for public corruption,'" Comer said. "So I'm confident we're going to have the votes to move forward with this impeachment inquiry."

Rest of the ridiculous nonsense here: Joe Biden Impeachment Looks More Likely After Walmart Confrontations: Comer

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

This is one of those times where I don't want some of whatever Republicans are smoking.


And what exactly have Republicans done to earn the millions and millions of dollars they get from lobbyists? 

[billisonboard]

Dec 4, 2023 10:14:02 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Dec 4, 2023 9:57:50 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Sounds quite like the process I take in my voting decisions. I do love to perform.

Better perhaps to join a community theatre troupe?

I should look into that. Thanks

[scgal]

Dec 4, 2023 9:31:44 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Dec 4, 2023 8:50:13 GMT -5 scgal said:

So people shouldn't vote 3rd party or anyone who dont vote the way you think shouldn't vote? 

Never said that. But you can vote third party and still get the outcome you wish.

The issue is you do not understand the danger of Trump. In your dream world, Biden is worse than Trump. So you can not vote for Trump, yet still get what you want. Trump is clear and present danger to the future of the US, a fact you refuse to accept. If you lived in a state where the election was in doubt, would you vote third party and risk Biden winning? I doubt it. So, your third party vote is performative

Well that maybe so in your eyes in mine I don't think Trump is that much of a danger to the US than leftist policies. I just don't want him in due to all the drama and I really don't think much would get accomplished unless republicans have the house and senate. If I lived in a swing state I would still vote third party. To be honest I vote third party and Trump still wins the election I would not be devastated. It must really drive you crazy that half of this country don't see Trump the way that people on this board does. How about you put the kool-aid down and come on over to our side.

[pulmonarymd]

Dec 4, 2023 13:11:42 GMT -5 scgal said:

Dec 4, 2023 9:31:44 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Never said that. But you can vote third party and still get the outcome you wish.

The issue is you do not understand the danger of Trump. In your dream world, Biden is worse than Trump. So you can not vote for Trump, yet still get what you want. Trump is clear and present danger to the future of the US, a fact you refuse to accept. If you lived in a state where the election was in doubt, would you vote third party and risk Biden winning? I doubt it. So, your third party vote is performative

Well that maybe so in your eyes in mine I don't think Trump is that much of a danger to the US than leftist policies. I just don't want him in due to all the drama and I really don't think much would get accomplished unless republicans have the house and senate. If I lived in a swing state I would still vote third party. To be honest I vote third party and Trump still wins the election I would not be devastated. It must really drive you crazy that half of this country don't see Trump the way that people on this board does. How about you put the kool-aid down and come on over to our side.

Yes, I understand your viewpoint, which is why I said what I said, and why people respond to you as you do. You think all of what Trump did is no big deal. What is a little insurrection. Republicans cared about Clinton getting a BJ, enough to Impeach him, but the insurrection and classified documents do not matter. Trump is telling us he will not follow the Constitution in his next term, and he has even said he did not pledge to support the constitution, but again, no worry. Yet Biden is the one that is a threat. 

Your hatred of Democrats has blinded you to the truth, which is the claim you have about Democrats. Most of the people who you accuse of being liberals here are fair minded and understand right from wrong, something republicans seem to have lost. So, no I will not come to your side. I have not been the one who is drinking the Kool-Aide. Your, and your fellow republicans inability to acknowledge what was actually attempted on January 6 means I will never vote republican again. I at least can think for myself, unlike you.

[scgal]

Dec 4, 2023 13:27:17 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Dec 4, 2023 13:11:42 GMT -5 scgal said:

Well that maybe so in your eyes in mine I don't think Trump is that much of a danger to the US than leftist policies. I just don't want him in due to all the drama and I really don't think much would get accomplished unless republicans have the house and senate. If I lived in a swing state I would still vote third party. To be honest I vote third party and Trump still wins the election I would not be devastated. It must really drive you crazy that half of this country don't see Trump the way that people on this board does. How about you put the kool-aid down and come on over to our side.

Yes, I understand your viewpoint, which is why I said what I said, and why people respond to you as you do. You think all of what Trump did is no big deal. What is a little insurrection. Republicans cared about Clinton getting a BJ, enough to Impeach him, but the insurrection and classified documents do not matter. Trump is telling us he will not follow the Constitution in his next term, and he has even said he did not pledge to support the constitution, but again, no worry. Yet Biden is the one that is a threat. 

Your hatred of Democrats has blinded you to the truth, which is the claim you have about Democrats. Most of the people who you accuse of being liberals here are fair minded and understand right from wrong, something republicans seem to have lost. So, no I will not come to your side. I have not been the one who is drinking the Kool-Aide. Your, and your fellow republicans inability to acknowledge what was actually attempted on January 6 means I will never vote republican again. I at least can think for myself, unlike you.

He was never a part of any insurrection. Hell as far as Clinton is concerned if I was a single intern I would have given him a BJ also maybe took care of Hillary too back then. You and your fellow democrats (the last four letters spell out exactly what they are) will never understand what showing the truth is. So go ahead live in your judgemental bubble. 

[pulmonarymd]

Dec 4, 2023 13:42:54 GMT -5 scgal said:

Dec 4, 2023 13:27:17 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Yes, I understand your viewpoint, which is why I said what I said, and why people respond to you as you do. You think all of what Trump did is no big deal. What is a little insurrection. Republicans cared about Clinton getting a BJ, enough to Impeach him, but the insurrection and classified documents do not matter. Trump is telling us he will not follow the Constitution in his next term, and he has even said he did not pledge to support the constitution, but again, no worry. Yet Biden is the one that is a threat. 

Your hatred of Democrats has blinded you to the truth, which is the claim you have about Democrats. Most of the people who you accuse of being liberals here are fair minded and understand right from wrong, something republicans seem to have lost. So, no I will not come to your side. I have not been the one who is drinking the Kool-Aide. Your, and your fellow republicans inability to acknowledge what was actually attempted on January 6 means I will never vote republican again. I at least can think for myself, unlike you.

He was never a part of any insurrection. Hell as far as Clinton is concerned if I was a single intern I would have given him a BJ also maybe took care of Hillary too back then. You and your fellow democrats (the last four letters spell out exactly what they are) will never understand what showing the truth is. So go ahead live in your judgemental bubble. 

The judgmental bubble is yours, because I am not, and never have been a Democrat. But you won't believe that. And january 6 was just normal tourist behavior, as members of Congress point out, right?

[minnesotapaintlady]

Dec 4, 2023 13:11:42 GMT -5 scgal said:

Dec 4, 2023 9:31:44 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Never said that. But you can vote third party and still get the outcome you wish.

The issue is you do not understand the danger of Trump. In your dream world, Biden is worse than Trump. So you can not vote for Trump, yet still get what you want. Trump is clear and present danger to the future of the US, a fact you refuse to accept. If you lived in a state where the election was in doubt, would you vote third party and risk Biden winning? I doubt it. So, your third party vote is performative

Well that maybe so in your eyes in mine I don't think Trump is that much of a danger to the US than leftist policies. I just don't want him in due to all the drama and I really don't think much would get accomplished unless republicans have the house and senate. If I lived in a swing state I would still vote third party. To be honest I vote third party and Trump still wins the election I would not be devastated. It must really drive you crazy that half of this country don't see Trump the way that people on this board does. How about you put the kool-aid down and come on over to our side.

Well, a lot of them think the earth is flat too, so...

But, I don't think a lot of people that voted for him are behind the BS he pulled with denying the election.  I know several people I work with that say they "Voted for him to be President, not King".  Would they vote for him again if it came down to Trump/Biden ticket again?  I don't know.  I sure hope they think about how they were feeling in 2020. 

[djAdvocate]

Dec 4, 2023 13:11:42 GMT -5 scgal said:

Dec 4, 2023 9:31:44 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Never said that. But you can vote third party and still get the outcome you wish.

The issue is you do not understand the danger of Trump. In your dream world, Biden is worse than Trump. So you can not vote for Trump, yet still get what you want. Trump is clear and present danger to the future of the US, a fact you refuse to accept. If you lived in a state where the election was in doubt, would you vote third party and risk Biden winning? I doubt it. So, your third party vote is performative

Well that maybe so in your eyes in mine I don't think Trump is that much of a danger to the US than leftist policies. I just don't want him in due to all the drama and I really don't think much would get accomplished unless republicans have the house and senate. If I lived in a swing state I would still vote third party. To be honest I vote third party and Trump still wins the election I would not be devastated. It must really drive you crazy that half of this country don't see Trump the way that people on this board does. How about you put the kool-aid down and come on over to our side.

what leftist policies?

[chiver78]

Dec 4, 2023 17:45:44 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Dec 4, 2023 13:11:42 GMT -5 scgal said:

Well that maybe so in your eyes in mine I don't think Trump is that much of a danger to the US than leftist policies. I just don't want him in due to all the drama and I really don't think much would get accomplished unless republicans have the house and senate. If I lived in a swing state I would still vote third party. To be honest I vote third party and Trump still wins the election I would not be devastated. It must really drive you crazy that half of this country don't see Trump the way that people on this board does. How about you put the kool-aid down and come on over to our side.

what leftist policies?

all that touchy-feely stuff she doesn't like. y'know, like equal civil rights.     

[djAdvocate]

as a personal aside, i actually worry that those on the right DO see Trump the way i do, and simply don't give a shit.

THAT is terrifying.

[chiver78]

Dec 4, 2023 17:51:04 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

as a personal aside, i actually worry that those on the right DO see Trump the way i do, and simply don't give a shit.

THAT is terrifying.

well, if the negatives don't affect them, why would they care? 

that's terrifying to me as well. and the general attitudes about COVID around the country helped solidify to me where we are as a country. 

[djAdvocate]

not familiar with Neimoeller's* Poem, one might presume.
probably made a banned book list.













*Neimoeller didn't actually write it, but it is attributed to him anyway.

[scgal]

Dec 4, 2023 17:45:44 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Dec 4, 2023 13:11:42 GMT -5 scgal said:

Well that maybe so in your eyes in mine I don't think Trump is that much of a danger to the US than leftist policies. I just don't want him in due to all the drama and I really don't think much would get accomplished unless republicans have the house and senate. If I lived in a swing state I would still vote third party. To be honest I vote third party and Trump still wins the election I would not be devastated. It must really drive you crazy that half of this country don't see Trump the way that people on this board does. How about you put the kool-aid down and come on over to our side.

what leftist policies?

Lets see climate change too much attention on this, abortion, religeous liberties 

just to name a few

[Opti]

Dec 5, 2023 8:30:03 GMT -5 scgal said:

Dec 4, 2023 17:45:44 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

what leftist policies?

Lets see climate change too much attention on this, abortion, religeous liberties 

just to name a few

So real problems you don't believe are actual issues.

Is like when that flat earthers wanted to kill astromers for daring to say and believe the world is a globe, or a little less strident than that?

Christians do have religious liberties. More than any other religion in this country. They are just less dominant over other religions in America AND younger Americans have been fleeing traditional Catholicism, Protestant faiths, etc. Some have gone to non denominational churches, but probably far more have opted out of religion entirely.

[Opti]

There can never be enough attention to America's second large shame as a country. Is he our answer to Hitler (he is known to read and reread Mein Kampf) a puppet of Russia, or all the above plus more?

C) Yes  

[minnesotapaintlady]

Dec 5, 2023 8:30:03 GMT -5 scgal said:

Dec 4, 2023 17:45:44 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

what leftist policies?

Lets see climate change too much attention on this, abortion, religeous liberties 

just to name a few

What does this mean?  I'm all for taking religion TOTALLY out of everything government related and taxing them all too.  So, if that's what you mean, I agree with you on that one.

[Opti]

  (too early for popcorn)

[Tennesseer]

Dec 5, 2023 8:30:03 GMT -5 scgal said:

Dec 4, 2023 17:45:44 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

what leftist policies?

Lets see climate change too much attention on this, abortion, religeous liberties 

just to name a few

Bless your heart.

[busymom]

Folks who live in our state know that climate change is a real thing (of course, we've got a few deniers here too, but oh well).  We've just set a record for the least snow EVER since they started keeping records, for the month of November (we just got a dusting of snow).  And later this week, we're hitting 50 degrees, which just doesn't happen in December in this part of the country.  In a "normal" year, we should have at least a foot of snow on the ground, but some folks think climate change isn't a big deal.  Until it affects the ability of a farmer to harvest crops that is.  Then, it's probably getting to be too late to fix the problem.

[andi9899]

Dec 5, 2023 8:30:03 GMT -5 scgal said:

Dec 4, 2023 17:45:44 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

what leftist policies?

Lets see climate change too much attention on this, abortion, religeous liberties 

just to name a few

So we're just supposed to ignore climate change and wait for the earth to become uninhabitable for our descendants? That seems like a short sighted and shitty stance. "Since it won't affect me directly, screw everyone else, even if I helped create them." Real pro life of you.

Abortion is healthcare whether you believe it kr not.

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with democracy. America is not and has never been a Christian country.

[busymom]

Dec 4, 2023 12:16:35 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

This is one of those times where I don't want some of whatever Republicans are smoking.


And what exactly have Republicans done to earn the millions and millions of dollars they get from lobbyists? 

    They've given big tax breaks to rich white men, who don't really need the money.  That's all folks!  

[pulmonarymd]

Dec 5, 2023 11:27:33 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Dec 5, 2023 8:30:03 GMT -5 scgal said:

Lets see climate change too much attention on this, abortion, religeous liberties 

just to name a few

So we're just supposed to ignore climate change and wait for the earth to become uninhabitable for our descendants? That seems like a short sighted and shitty stance. "Since it won't affect me directly, screw everyone else, even if I helped create them." Real pro life of you.

Abortion is healthcare whether you believe it kr not.

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with democracy. America is not and has never been a Christian country.

She has already said this. Said we do not owe future generations anything.
She doesn't believe abortion has any connection to basic gyn care
She wants religious bigots to have the right to refuse to do any business with people who they disagree with, but yet be able to demand people do business with them.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the republican platform!

[Opti]

Dec 5, 2023 11:23:58 GMT -5 busymom said:

Folks who live in our state know that climate change is a real thing (of course, we've got a few deniers here too, but oh well).  We've just set a record for the least snow EVER since they started keeping records, for the month of November (we just got a dusting of snow).  And later this week, we're hitting 50 degrees, which just doesn't happen in December in this part of the country.  In a "normal" year, we should have at least a foot of snow on the ground, but some folks think climate change isn't a big deal.  Until it affects the ability of a farmer to harvest crops that is.  Then, it's probably getting to be too late to fix the problem.

That's why many are sounding the alarm. Protecting the food supply for Americans. Protecting the food supply for all countries on the planet. We've already experienced the disruption and increasing food prices because Putin wanted to insure his legacy by taking back Ukraine by any means necessary.

Here on the East coast, or at least my piece, there is concern too on what can be fished from our waters. Where fish, shellfish, crabs etc. may relocate to simply because conditions are no longer good for them where they are. Lots of people would be affected by that on the NJ shore and restaurants that buy and prepare NJ seafood. NJ is agriculture is important. Many may only know about the tomatoes. NJ is also a big producer of cranberries, blueberries, corn, etc.

[Tennesseer]

Dec 5, 2023 11:23:58 GMT -5 busymom said:

Folks who live in our state know that climate change is a real thing (of course, we've got a few deniers here too, but oh well).  We've just set a record for the least snow EVER since they started keeping records, for the month of November (we just got a dusting of snow).  And later this week, we're hitting 50 degrees, which just doesn't happen in December in this part of the country.  In a "normal" year, we should have at least a foot of snow on the ground, but some folks think climate change isn't a big deal.  Until it affects the ability of a farmer to harvest crops that is.  Then, it's probably getting to be too late to fix the problem.

If palm trees are not growing above the arctic tree line, climate change does not exist (for some).

[busymom]

I cannot recall, did we discuss the failing peach harvest in Georgia this year?  Farmers are actually beginning to look at other potential crops to plant there.  You can't lose 90% of any crop, and still pay the bills.

[tallguy]

Dec 5, 2023 11:46:23 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Dec 5, 2023 11:27:33 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

So we're just supposed to ignore climate change and wait for the earth to become uninhabitable for our descendants? That seems like a short sighted and shitty stance. "Since it won't affect me directly, screw everyone else, even if I helped create them." Real pro life of you.

Abortion is healthcare whether you believe it kr not.

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with democracy. America is not and has never been a Christian country.

She has already said this. Said we do not owe future generations anything.
She doesn't believe abortion has any connection to basic gyn care
She wants religious bigots to have the right to refuse to do any business with people who they disagree with, but yet be able to demand people do business with them.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the republican platform!

You left out a biggie, or four.  In no particular order:

Take as much as possible away from poorer people to give it to rich people. 
Deny basic human and civil rights to anyone not like us. 
It's not a crime if WE do it.
Government exists to serve OUR interests, not the rest of you vermin.

[djAdvocate]

Dec 5, 2023 8:30:03 GMT -5 scgal said:

Dec 4, 2023 17:45:44 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

what leftist policies?

Lets see climate change too much attention on this, abortion, religeous liberties 

just to name a few

not very specific.  

all of the changes that are being made on abortion are on the part of conservatives, so don't blame liberals, please.

ditto for religious liberties.

let's go with climate change for 200:

do you think climate change is real? do you think humans contribute?

[scgal]

Dec 5, 2023 12:37:47 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Dec 5, 2023 8:30:03 GMT -5 scgal said:

Lets see climate change too much attention on this, abortion, religeous liberties 

just to name a few

not very specific.  

all of the changes that are being made on abortion are on the part of conservatives, so don't blame liberals, please.

ditto for religious liberties.

let's go with climate change for 200:

do you think climate change is real? do you think humans contribute?

Yes climate change is real to what extent I do not know its not like we can trust the experts you know they said the polar ice caps would be gone by 2000. Yes humans contribute that is another reason why it is all crap unless all countries get on board then it will not matter. The earth will adjust we just may not be part of it.