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Post by happyhoix on Feb 20, 2021 11:44:48 GMT -5
Apparently Nikki Haley has thrown Trump under the bus. Article here: linkIt's reported that she tried to talk to him. (Why?) Then he snubbed her. (Of course he would; what did she expect?) SCOOP: NIKKI HALEY reached out to former President DONALD TRUMP on Wednesday to request a sit-down at Mar-a-Lago, but a source familiar tells Playbook that he turned her down. The two haven’t spoken since the insurrection on Jan. 6, when Haley blasted Trump for inciting his supporters to storm the Capitol. The snub comes on the heels of Tim Alberta’s deep dive in POLITICO Magazine last week on Haley’s presidential ambitions and how she’s trying to have it both ways with Trump. linkYou are either a Trump toady or you’re his enemy and he will attack you. There is no middle with him. Haley wants to run for president - she can do the math.
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Post by laterbloomer on Feb 20, 2021 11:59:54 GMT -5
I am pretty sure when Mayor Pete was running, many of us discussed that he needed more polishing. Pete has had a LOT more life experiences than AOC since he served overseas in the military & if I remember correctly, is still in the Guard. And yes, he is super smart too. AOC has lots of brains, but not much experience out of her comfort zone in life. Let her come down here & let me drag her around this area for a week & she will start seeing some things with a different view. Honestly I don't know that being in the military gives you a lot of experience for being President, it's more of a character thing. I would say that studying history and politics would actually be more beneficial knowledge ways. And I'm not sure what you feel you will drag AOC around to.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Feb 20, 2021 13:33:29 GMT -5
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Feb 20, 2021 13:45:31 GMT -5
Pete has had a LOT more life experiences than AOC since he served overseas in the military & if I remember correctly, is still in the Guard. And yes, he is super smart too. AOC has lots of brains, but not much experience out of her comfort zone in life. Let her come down here & let me drag her around this area for a week & she will start seeing some things with a different view. Honestly I don't know that being in the military gives you a lot of experience for being President, it's more of a character thing. I would say that studying history and politics would actually be more beneficial knowledge ways. And I'm not sure what you feel you will drag AOC around to. Considering that the President is Commander in Chief, being in the military does give you a very strong advantage as to knowing and understanding military structure and function of the military you direct. Being in the military is a totally different mindset. What rolls outside the military frequently will not. If you don’t understand that, then how do you direct it to do your bidding legally? Trump did not understand this.....Obama had no military service, but learned and respected it. Same with Clinton. In addition, I think that having a military background gives you more credence by those in the military. Pete would likely be a shoe in, AOC not so much.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Feb 20, 2021 13:49:42 GMT -5
I think AOC would be a hard sell for the middle and the independants, but I have to say, I'm coming around on the idea. she is a mover and a shaker, and she has vision and energy. Pete's fine - but he ran for prez out of being a major for 6 years? Why can't AOC run with 6 years in congress - and being extemely present on the national stage from day 1? Never heard of pete before he threw his hat in the ring. she has made a lot of connection and done quite a bit in her short time in congress. I see no impediment to her moving forward, unless she can't be on the primary unless 35? And - going back to the original on this: this was just a guess on what Bernie was hinting at. but you all have convinced me, I'm good with AOC in 2024. Let's try something different.
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Post by laterbloomer on Feb 20, 2021 13:57:31 GMT -5
Honestly I don't know that being in the military gives you a lot of experience for being President, it's more of a character thing. I would say that studying history and politics would actually be more beneficial knowledge ways. And I'm not sure what you feel you will drag AOC around to. Considering that the President is Commander in Chief, being in the military does give you a very strong advantage as to knowing and understanding military structure and function of the military you direct. Being in the military is a totally different mindset. What rolls outside the military frequently will not. If you don’t understand that, then how do you direct it to do your bidding legally? Trump did not understand this.....Obama had no military service, but learned and respected it. Same with Clinton. In addition, I think that having a military background gives you more credence by those in the military. Pete would likely be a shoe in, AOC not so much. I know that is how a lot of people think, I don't agree. Trump didn't know or care what was legal for him to do in any area, nothing to do with him dodging military service. Same with having respect for anyone. I believe that a solid knowledge of world history and politics is much more valuable. Good for Pete for having military service, but I don't believe that makes him more qualified. I'm still curious where kadee wants to drag AOC and what she wants to change her mind about.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Feb 20, 2021 14:06:32 GMT -5
Considering that the President is Commander in Chief, being in the military does give you a very strong advantage as to knowing and understanding military structure and function of the military you direct. Being in the military is a totally different mindset. What rolls outside the military frequently will not. If you don’t understand that, then how do you direct it to do your bidding legally? Trump did not understand this.....Obama had no military service, but learned and respected it. Same with Clinton. In addition, I think that having a military background gives you more credence by those in the military. Pete would likely be a shoe in, AOC not so much. I know that is how a lot of people think, I don't agree. Trump didn't know or care what was legal for him to do in any area, nothing to do with him dodging military service. Same with having respect for anyone. I believe that a solid knowledge of world history and politics is much more valuable. Good for Pete for having military service, but I don't believe that makes him more qualified. I'm still curious where kadee wants to drag AOC and what she wants to change her mind about. yeah.....what was that?
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 21, 2021 1:35:01 GMT -5
I think AOC would be a hard sell for the middle and the independants, but I have to say, I'm coming around on the idea. she is a mover and a shaker, and she has vision and energy. Pete's fine - but he ran for prez out of being a major for 6 years? Why can't AOC run with 6 years in congress - and being extemely present on the national stage from day 1? Never heard of pete before he threw his hat in the ring. she has made a lot of connection and done quite a bit in her short time in congress. I see no impediment to her moving forward, unless she can't be on the primary unless 35? And - going back to the original on this: this was just a guess on what Bernie was hinting at. but you all have convinced me, I'm good with AOC in 2024. Let's try something different. we could do worse than an inspired young person.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 21, 2021 10:20:39 GMT -5
Re AOC: Tempering, in metallurgy, process of improving the characteristics of a metal, especially steel, by heating it to a high temperature, though below the melting point, then cooling it, usually in air. The process has the effect of toughening by lessening brittleness and reducing internal stresses.
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 21, 2021 10:55:12 GMT -5
On the tv news this morning Teds spokesman said Ted talked to a meteorologist prior to this storm event who told him it would be bad, and Cruz forwarded that information to the governor of Texas - so what else should the guy have done? then there was video of him handing out cases of water to cars so - what else could the poor guy have done?
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 21, 2021 14:21:51 GMT -5
On the tv news this morning Teds spokesman said Ted talked to a meteorologist prior to this storm event who told him it would be bad, and Cruz forwarded that information to the governor of Texas - so what else should the guy have done? then there was video of him handing out cases of water to cars so - what else could the poor guy have done? I hate when they have to hand out supplies for the cameras - both parties. Someone like Cruz should be calling all his rich, business owning friends - asking if they have any resources that can help - can they secure food, refrigeration, shelter, etc? Biden was working with FEMA, talking to the governor and working government connections to get done what he could. He is getting bashed because the only photo ops are him on the phone, and headlines stating what he signed. I feel like the rich business community missed an opportunity to try and get people back on their side. They could have very publically done a lot to help. Cruz could have coordinated something. It wouldn't have been as warm as him mixing with regular folk, but he could have helped a lot of people.
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