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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 12, 2021 17:26:20 GMT -5
Haley might be giving a few senators coverage to vote against Trump in his impeachment trial. Ohhhh... I like this idea. I hope that this is the case. the way I read impeachment law, if 25 republicans are no-shows for the vote, he will be impeached, and the GOP can legitimately say that they did NOT vote to impeach Trump.
I think this would be the best for the nation. which means they probably won't do it.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Feb 12, 2021 17:46:22 GMT -5
I have been gone all day, who is this guy Van der Veen?
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Post by tallguy on Feb 12, 2021 17:57:25 GMT -5
I have been gone all day, who is this guy Van der Veen? He is primarily a personal injury attorney. In fact, a quick search of the web page for his law firm shows the first ten results highlighting and touting his prowess and effectiveness as an attorney to be settlements for injuries suffered in traffic accidents. Higher-class ambulance chaser, maybe?
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Feb 12, 2021 18:05:28 GMT -5
I have been gone all day, who is this guy Van der Veen? He is primarily a personal injury attorney. In fact, a quick search of the web page for his law firm shows the first ten results highlighting and touting his prowess and effectiveness as an attorney to be settlements for injuries suffered in traffic accidents. Higher-class ambulance chaser, maybe? He wasn’t on the team Tuesday, was he?
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Post by tallguy on Feb 12, 2021 18:14:41 GMT -5
He did not speak on Tuesday. Whether he was on the team at that point I don't know.
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Post by moon/Laura on Feb 12, 2021 18:53:39 GMT -5
I have been gone all day, who is this guy Van der Veen? From what I just saw in this Vanity Fair article, he founded the firm that Castor now works for. Gotta read down it a ways to find that info, however.
Vanity Fair - Van der Veen
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Post by Opti on Feb 12, 2021 19:14:12 GMT -5
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Post by dondub on Feb 12, 2021 20:52:26 GMT -5
The portion I heard on the radio conveniently skipped the two months of voter fraud claims and court actions with Trump bloviating. It missed the “stand back and stand by” exhortation to Proud Boy types. It forgot to mention “come on the 6th for a wild time”. This slowly was built to a crescendo that culminated at the Capitol. He prompted, invited and incited..
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 12, 2021 20:56:45 GMT -5
it's not just that!
when has a sitting president suggested widespread election fraud was responsible for his defeat?
ever?
please. this was NOT ordinary. it was horrendous.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 12, 2021 20:58:01 GMT -5
Oath Keeper wanted to load boat with weapons for PotomacA member of the right-wing paramilitary group the Oath Keepers in the days leading up to the Jan. 6 Capitol riot proposed a plan to transport "heavy weapons" in a boat across the Potomac River, prosecutors said in a Thursday court filing. Federal prosecutors made the allegation in a memo opposing a motion for release from the attorneys of Thomas Edward Caldwell, who along with fellow Oath Keeper members Jessica Marie Watkins and Donovan Crowl, faces conspiracy charges in connection with alleged plans to lead a coup ahead of the deadly pro-Trump mob attack. The revelation came the same day prosecutors in a separate memo called for Watkins to be held in jail without bail, saying she had been awaiting instructions from former President Trump in the days leading up to the attack. Prosecutors say that in the days after the presidential election, Watkins told other militia members that she was awaiting cues from Trump before taking action against what the former president had been calling a stolen election. Complete article here: link
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 12, 2021 21:12:58 GMT -5
Alleged shouting match between House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and trump on January 6th after McCarthy asked trump to send help to the Capitol and trump refused to call off the rioters:
trump: "Well Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are."
McCarthy: "Who the fuck do you think you are talking to?"
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 13, 2021 10:03:38 GMT -5
Alleged shouting match between House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and trump on January 6th after McCarthy asked trump to send help to the Capitol and trump refused to call off the rioters: trump: "Well Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are."McCarthy: "Who the fuck do you think you are talking to?" I'm gonna need some proof on this one.....
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 13, 2021 10:17:39 GMT -5
Alleged shouting match between House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and trump on January 6th after McCarthy asked trump to send help to the Capitol and trump refused to call off the rioters: trump: "Well Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are."McCarthy: "Who the fuck do you think you are talking to?" I'm gonna need some proof on this one..... When I read things that fit so nicely into my prejudiced view of what I think Trump would say or do, I also want some solid proof before just accepting it.
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Post by mary2029 on Feb 13, 2021 10:18:11 GMT -5
Mitch has emailed his colleagues to say he is going to acquit Trump as he doesn't think it is the Senators' responsibility to deal with a former president; it is the court to decide. On phone, can't link.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 13, 2021 10:55:28 GMT -5
Witnesses. Hmmmm.
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Post by mary2029 on Feb 13, 2021 11:08:40 GMT -5
Alleged shouting match between House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and trump on January 6th after McCarthy asked trump to send help to the Capitol and trump refused to call off the rioters: trump: "Well Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are."McCarthy: "Who the fuck do you think you are talking to?" I'm gonna need some proof on this one..... Ask and you shall receive...
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 13, 2021 11:44:57 GMT -5
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Post by mary2029 on Feb 13, 2021 13:35:59 GMT -5
I guess no witnesses after all. At least the trial will be over today and we can continue with the first 100 days of Biden.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 13, 2021 13:36:57 GMT -5
I guess no witnesses after all. At least the trial will be over today and we can continue with the first 100 days of Biden. Witness statement only.
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Post by mary2029 on Feb 13, 2021 13:37:54 GMT -5
I wouldn't call what she stated on Friday a witness statement.
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Post by mary2029 on Feb 13, 2021 13:46:25 GMT -5
Hope they all enjoy their vacations next week.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 13, 2021 13:50:10 GMT -5
I'm gonna need some proof on this one..... When I read things that fit so nicely into my prejudiced view of what I think Trump would say or do, I also want some solid proof before just accepting it. Hard to believe McCarthy would stand up to him like that. 🙄
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Post by oped on Feb 13, 2021 14:24:00 GMT -5
Except it wasn’t during a reasoned discussion. It was one man in fear for his life calling to veg another to do the right thing and being told, nah... your bad...
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Post by Opti on Feb 13, 2021 14:31:31 GMT -5
veg? I guess Trump didn't car rot all.
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Post by laterbloomer on Feb 13, 2021 15:03:17 GMT -5
Except it wasn’t during a reasoned discussion. It was one man in fear for his life calling to veg another to do the right thing and being told, nah... your bad... That's why their defense of him now makes absolutely no sense unless their or their loved ones lives are under threat now. There is no way people back a man that has tried to kill them except under extreme fear.
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Post by Opti on Feb 13, 2021 15:24:52 GMT -5
Except it wasn’t during a reasoned discussion. It was one man in fear for his life calling to veg another to do the right thing and being told, nah... your bad... That's why their defense of him now makes absolutely no sense unless their or their loved ones lives are under threat now. There is no way people back a man that has tried to kill them except under extreme fear. Unfortunately if the Qs and Trumpers successfully get them to vote against their best interests, they are going to be threatened in the future probably multiple times.
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Post by mary2029 on Feb 13, 2021 15:52:01 GMT -5
Expected, but disappointing.
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Post by andi9899 on Feb 13, 2021 15:54:19 GMT -5
What a bunch of BS!
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