Vaccinated

[jerseygirl]

Son is physician, he’s had the 2 shots, only some arm discomfort.
But he has colleagues who had or strongly suspect they had Covid. They had more severe reactions, fever, malaise , headaches for day after injections. Very likely immune system reactions

[andi9899]

So both parents currently have COVID. They also received an email stating that they will be getting the vaccine within a couple of weeks. How long do they need to be symptom free before getting the vaccine?

[Artemis Windsong]

I am very uneasy about the covid vaccine. I'm still recovering so No issues for a month.

I am concerned about my H. He is the driver here in AZ and I was told not to drive.

[pulmonarymd]

Feb 1, 2021 10:53:00 GMT -5 Ryan said:

Feb 1, 2021 10:48:13 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

There have not been enough people in that category to know the answer

You mean you don't know any.  I'm sure there are plenty of people that had COVID that have gotten the 2nd shot.    

Only about 20% of the vaccine given in my state is second doses. I was in the first phase, got my first vaccine12/18, second 1/8. My wife got her first dose 12/24, second 1/24. The number of people who have gotten a second dose is still small. The number of people who had covid and have gotten 2 doses is quite small. If that is the question you are asking?

If you are just being difficult, my hospital has given over 1000 second doses. So yes, I know quite a few people who have gotten their second dose. We had 5 times as many people infected since 11/1 compared to earlier. We are telling people to wait 90 days after an infection to get vaccinated. So, any other questions?

[stillmovingforward]

Fun thing, I got a message from my rheumatologist this morning. They are notifying patients on immunosuppressants that we are to go off our immunosuppressants for a week before the vaccine and for two weeks after. As they are concerned we would not develop the correct amount of antibodies but admit that no one really knows.
Great, I already had my first shot. I'll do their protocol for the second one. This should really send my system for a loop!

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Feb 1, 2021 10:59:02 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

So both parents currently have COVID. They also received an email stating that they will be getting the vaccine within a couple of weeks. How long do they need to be symptom free before getting the vaccine?

It’s not that they need to be symptom free, but having had COVID long enough in the past that they have little antibody circulating.  

If you have antibody in your system, it binds up the vaccine and does not allow the immune system to ‘see’ it in order to make more of an immune response.    

[andi9899]

Feb 1, 2021 14:07:03 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Feb 1, 2021 10:59:02 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

So both parents currently have COVID. They also received an email stating that they will be getting the vaccine within a couple of weeks. How long do they need to be symptom free before getting the vaccine?

It’s not that they need to be symptom free, but having had COVID long enough in the past that they have little antibody circulating.  

If you have antibody in your system, it binds up the vaccine and does not allow the immune system to ‘see’ it in order to make more of an immune response.    

So how long in the past is long enough?

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Feb 1, 2021 14:10:08 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Feb 1, 2021 14:07:03 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

It’s not that they need to be symptom free, but having had COVID long enough in the past that they have little antibody circulating.  

If you have antibody in your system, it binds up the vaccine and does not allow the immune system to ‘see’ it in order to make more of an immune response.    

So how long in the past is long enough?

Hard to say, it depends upon how severe their disease is and how much antibody their body makes.  What I would do is try to get them in and treated with the Regeneron monoclonal.  It might give them a break on severe disease, and the monoclonal should be cycled out of their body in around 6 weeks or so.  Otherwise, it may take several months.  

[andi9899]

Feb 1, 2021 14:21:59 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Feb 1, 2021 14:10:08 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

So how long in the past is long enough?

Hard to say, it depends upon how severe their disease is and how much antibody their body makes.  What I would do is try to get them in and treated with the Regeneron monoclonal.  It might give them a break on severe disease, and the monoclonal should be cycled out of their body in around 6 weeks or so.  Otherwise, it may take several months.  

Interesting. I told my mom to call her doctor. Hopefully she listens.

[justme]

Feb 1, 2021 14:10:08 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Feb 1, 2021 14:07:03 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

It’s not that they need to be symptom free, but having had COVID long enough in the past that they have little antibody circulating.  

If you have antibody in your system, it binds up the vaccine and does not allow the immune system to ‘see’ it in order to make more of an immune response.    

So how long in the past is long enough?

A couple post above this is pulmonarymd saying they're recommending 90 days after. 

[pulmonarymd]

Yes, we have been telling people 90 days after an infection or receiving monoclonal antibodies

[Deleted]

I just had a somewhat language-challenged conversation with a man who was horribly sick for 2 weeks, along with his wife and 3 children.  As near as I could determine, he had two tests for Covid-19 during his illness; both were negative.  And he's had a more recent test that I think was for antibodies because it was a blood draw, not saliva or swab.  That was negative as well.  As far as he knows, it was just the seasonal flu.  He's back to full function at this point so we're both very happy.  

[azucena]

Local news just told folks to stop sharing the appt links that they've received from the hospital. Apparently hospital sends link to qualified people who sign up and then fwd the email to family and friends who proceed to take up many of the spots. News also said they are really only checking age for truthfulness - comorbidities and professions are honor system.

What a clusterfuck!

[raeoflyte]

It is a clusterfuck. Dh and I got into an argument last night. CO has listed vet medicine as health care workers which I just can't agree with. Essential workers of course, but not health care. He was able to get his shot, but some of his coworkers have been turned away based on profession. He said its ridiculous that ski patrol can get vaccinated before he can, but I disagree. Ski patrol may have to resuscitate a human, or care for a positive person in close quarters. Dh's risk is the same as every other essential worker out there. I'm almost annoyed (on principle) that he got his shot now.

[TheOtherMe]

My county is now saying they are still in Tier 1 (health care workers and nursing home residents) and shots for those over 65 will not be available until March.  

Meanwhile, they are proceeding to build their clinic site.  I'm guessing we won't get vaccinated until the site is up and running.

Message again is don't call us, we'll call you.

[ken a.k.a OMK]

my county with a population of 37,500 got 300 doses this week. 

We are still in 1B and beginning the second shot for 1A.

[Lizard Queen]

I for sure a department of public works that supplies 4 different utilities, and I guess none of our critical infrastructure workers have gotten the vaccination yet due to that. One of the guys in the finance department where I work got it because he's old and lives in a small county, I guess. I'm glad for him. Wish they would get on with the rest of us.

[TheOtherMe]

Since the governor is requiring all schools to go back to in person no later than Feb. 15, teachers are now the priority for vaccines.

[TheOtherMe]

Walgreens opened up appointments in some cities.  For the last two hours, I have been unsuccessful in getting one--even if I am willing to drive 3 hours to get both doses.

[Ryan]

Feb 2, 2021 9:55:58 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

It is a clusterfuck. Dh and I got into an argument last night. CO has listed vet medicine as health care workers which I just can't agree with. Essential workers of course, but not health care. He was able to get his shot, but some of his coworkers have been turned away based on profession. He said its ridiculous that ski patrol can get vaccinated before he can, but I disagree. Ski patrol may have to resuscitate a human, or care for a positive person in close quarters. Dh's risk is the same as every other essential worker out there. I'm almost annoyed (on principle) that he got his shot now.

That's been happening here and probably everywhere.  I posted in another thread, but I have fairly close friends that have the following professions:

1) Pharmacist by training, but has worked in corporate from home for months.  Not only did he get the vaccine, but his wife did too.

2) CPA for a small restaurant chain (3-4 locations).  Assuming he got vaccine under the "Grocery Store/Food Service" title.

3) One person I know labeled herself a grocery worker after she shopped for instacart for a week.

4) Another friend is a pilot by trade, but works for the FAA doing something.  He has worked from home and just recently got vaccinated.  Pretty sure he said he is a pilot (technically true), but he hasn't flown in a commercial airline in years.  

[oped]

Is PA the only state that put Under 65 with other health conditions in the 1A group?

[Sharon]

I just got my second dose today,  Relieved and grateful.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Feb 2, 2021 19:20:32 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

my county with a population of 37,500 got 300 doses this week. 

We are still in 1B and beginning the second shot for 1A.

Sounds like us.  200+k population and 1000 doses.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Feb 3, 2021 15:28:34 GMT -5 Ryan said:

Feb 2, 2021 9:55:58 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

It is a clusterfuck. Dh and I got into an argument last night. CO has listed vet medicine as health care workers which I just can't agree with. Essential workers of course, but not health care. He was able to get his shot, but some of his coworkers have been turned away based on profession. He said its ridiculous that ski patrol can get vaccinated before he can, but I disagree. Ski patrol may have to resuscitate a human, or care for a positive person in close quarters. Dh's risk is the same as every other essential worker out there. I'm almost annoyed (on principle) that he got his shot now.

That's been happening here and probably everywhere.  I posted in another thread, but I have fairly close friends that have the following professions:

1) Pharmacist by training, but has worked in corporate from home for months.  Not only did he get the vaccine, but his wife did too.

2) CPA for a small restaurant chain (3-4 locations).  Assuming he got vaccine under the "Grocery Store/Food Service" title.

3) One person I know labeled herself a grocery worker after she shopped for instacart for a week.

4) Another friend is a pilot by trade, but works for the FAA doing something.  He has worked from home and just recently got vaccinated.  Pretty sure he said he is a pilot (technically true), but he hasn't flown in a commercial airline in years.  

So you have friends that are skirting the ethics.  If I knew this, they’d no longer be friends.  If they are willing to cheat here, where else?

[azucena]

DH just got his first dose today in a mass clinic in MO.  He's 42, immunocompromised and a preschool teacher - both qualify for our current tier.

We're talking about him going back to work in two weeks when he'll have some built up immunity.  He got Pfizer so second dose is in 3 weeks.  He's been off work since his surgery in Jan 2020.  He would have been cleared to work in March as everything shut down.  He was coping pretty well up until Jan and now is becoming depressed, so it's better for all of us that he gets back to work.

I'd signed him up for every health dept within a 3 hour drive of StL.  I've been haunting websites and facebook to try to catch open appts.  Last night there was a fb post at 8:45 last night.  Had him signed up by 8:50 and appts were closed by 8:55.

[Ryan]

Feb 3, 2021 16:45:27 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Feb 3, 2021 15:28:34 GMT -5 Ryan said:

That's been happening here and probably everywhere.  I posted in another thread, but I have fairly close friends that have the following professions:

1) Pharmacist by training, but has worked in corporate from home for months.  Not only did he get the vaccine, but his wife did too.

2) CPA for a small restaurant chain (3-4 locations).  Assuming he got vaccine under the "Grocery Store/Food Service" title.

3) One person I know labeled herself a grocery worker after she shopped for instacart for a week.

4) Another friend is a pilot by trade, but works for the FAA doing something.  He has worked from home and just recently got vaccinated.  Pretty sure he said he is a pilot (technically true), but he hasn't flown in a commercial airline in years.  

So you have friends that are skirting the ethics.  If I knew this, they’d no longer be friends.  If they are willing to cheat here, where else?

They don't believe there is anything wrong with it. I asked the instacart shopper if she thought they would allow her to get the vaccine as an instacart shopper, esp. since she just started a week ago.  SHe was like "Why wouldn't they?" and I said "I think it's intended for people that have been working in grocery stores" and she was just like "I have been working in the grocery store".  

Same thing as the SoulCycle lady, she thinks of herself as a teacher so she got the vaccine.  She clearly did not think it was wrong, otherwise who would post it online?

[Miss Tequila]

On of my friends just put on facebook that she got her mom vaccinated in Lancaster PA at a Rite Aid. My problem with that is she lives in Delaware! I love this person. Her mom is in her 80s and my friend has a severely disabled son. I’m not as mad at her as I am at Rite Aid for allowing this. She did a circumference of 2 hours from her house and basically stayed at her computer for days.

Even to come into PA you are supposed to quarantine or have a negative test. They did neither. They should have been turned away as soon as they saw her drivers license.

[TheOtherMe]

Feb 3, 2021 15:15:51 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

Walgreens opened up appointments in some cities.  For the last two hours, I have been unsuccessful in getting one--even if I am willing to drive 3 hours to get both doses.

Make that over 3 hours trying to get an appointment for a vaccine.

I also do not understand what people without computer or smart phones are supposed to do.  You can't call Walgreens.  It has to be done online.

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 3, 2021 16:45:27 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Feb 3, 2021 15:28:34 GMT -5 Ryan said:

That's been happening here and probably everywhere.  I posted in another thread, but I have fairly close friends that have the following professions:

1) Pharmacist by training, but has worked in corporate from home for months.  Not only did he get the vaccine, but his wife did too.

2) CPA for a small restaurant chain (3-4 locations).  Assuming he got vaccine under the "Grocery Store/Food Service" title.

3) One person I know labeled herself a grocery worker after she shopped for instacart for a week.

4) Another friend is a pilot by trade, but works for the FAA doing something.  He has worked from home and just recently got vaccinated.  Pretty sure he said he is a pilot (technically true), but he hasn't flown in a commercial airline in years.  

So you have friends that are skirting the ethics.  If I knew this, they’d no longer be friends.  If they are willing to cheat here, where else?

I know several people that work for geisinger that haven’t stepped a foot inside work since last March. They all qualified through geisinger. Was I happy that people that work from home were eligible before my husband, who is out in public everyday? Absolutely not. But they followed the rules written by someone else

I rarely leave the house but I qualified and I got the vaccine. I also almost died from it last year so I don’t feel at all guilty about it. I followed the rules and signed myself up. Once my mom and I are vaccinated and the period passes die the antibodies to build, I can start bringing her here. She has dementia and is home alone 4 nights a week. She is also a diabetic so I call her to remind her to check her sugar and take her insulin. It in 6 weeks I can start bringing her here.

[TheOtherMe]

Before Iowa changed their rules, my sister, who does no farm work on their farm, was going to try to get vaccinated as an ag worker.

I might not have cared if she hadn't told my nephew that she would get vaccinated before me.