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Post by swamp on May 18, 2020 14:01:56 GMT -5
The fantasy of self-sufficiency. Life expectancy was a whole lot shorter because you could not do much medically. Now plenty of people are alive because of modern medicine, but very few who claim self sufficiency could treat their acute medical problems themselves Meh, ginger ale, vicks, ice packs, and bandaids fix all. Or maybe it's essential oils?
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Post by thyme4change on May 18, 2020 14:03:05 GMT -5
My parents lived through some tough times, but they have never butchered a hog and wouldn't know how to make soap without further instructions. My kids and my parents would be equally uncomfortable with your list, and my parents aren't snowflakes. I am not sure my kids are either, but since we are channeling the old man who shakes his fist and yells "Get off my lawn you damn kids" it seems pointless to discuss the possibility that the younger generation is strong and hardworking. My husband did grow up on a farm. While he has milked plenty of cows, gathered eggs, hitched teams (but why would you do that when you have a tractor?), he would have no idea how to butcher a hog or make soap. He decided as a kid that farming sucks and he's now a pharmacist. My family was part of the industrial revolution. Been city folks working machinery and such since they all ran away from the potato famine.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on May 18, 2020 14:11:32 GMT -5
My parents lived through some tough times, but they have never butchered a hog and wouldn't know how to make soap without further instructions. My kids and my parents would be equally uncomfortable with your list, and my parents aren't snowflakes. I am not sure my kids are either, but since we are channeling the old man who shakes his fist and yells "Get off my lawn you damn kids" it seems pointless to discuss the possibility that the younger generation is strong and hardworking. True. But I don't see what it even has to do with things being sold out? Why the segue there? No one was whinging about it, just factual statements of what is available. "I haven't seen disinfectant wipes at the store in a few months" "What if you had to butcher a hog you snowflake!" What Crazy, senseless interchange. I can only think that phil has been trolling to boards with intent to make such a post, and this was the closest he could find to wedge it in? #sad
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 18, 2020 14:13:19 GMT -5
I could with some time and resources grow your bacon in a petri dish. Bet old people can't do that!
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Post by resolution on May 18, 2020 14:14:42 GMT -5
Wow, these posts are quite a list of First World Problems.
What if today's Snowflakes had to get milk by milking a cow, gather eggs, butcher a hog for bacon and laundry soap, harness a team to drive to town for sugar & flour? None of my grandparents were well off enough to do any of that. They lived in tiny flats that they rented while working entry level jobs. One grandmother cleaned at the hospital and did laundry at the night shift while she raised 5 kids as a single mom. My dad had a job when he was a child to help with the rent, riding in a milk truck and carrying the bottles of milk to people's doorways before school. My husband's grandparents were quite prosperous and could do all of that. On his dad's side they owned a farm with hundreds of acres and raised hogs in addition to corn and soybeans. On his mom's side they grew vegetable in greenhouses and managed a store where they sold their vegetables.
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Post by lynnerself on May 18, 2020 14:15:19 GMT -5
Wow, this thread took a turn! I was just looking for examples of things you were surprised to find were not available.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 18, 2020 14:16:59 GMT -5
My local Home Depot is fresh out of horse drawn buggies.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 18, 2020 14:18:57 GMT -5
The fantasy of self-sufficiency. Life expectancy was a whole lot shorter because you could not do much medically. Now plenty of people are alive because of modern medicine, but very few who claim self sufficiency could treat their acute medical problems themselves Speak for yourself. I stayed at a Holiday Inn once. Well, that obviously changes everything
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Post by swamp on May 18, 2020 14:22:47 GMT -5
My local Home Depot is fresh out of horse drawn buggies. Actually, our Lowe's has several horse drawn buggies parked outside at any given time. They're Amish. I don't know of a single Non-amish person who has opted to join them, but I know several who have left. They said it sucks. Walmart has a hitching post specifically for the Amish. And yes, you can buy some replacement parts for the buggies.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 18, 2020 14:23:16 GMT -5
I could with some time and resources grow your bacon in a petri dish. Bet old people can't do that! I could too.
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Post by oped on May 18, 2020 14:23:19 GMT -5
My great grandmother was 99 when she died and I think would have lived longer if my aunts hadn't decided that a fall had rendered her 'helpless'... She could make her own soap and butcher anything.
A friend told me once that she had a hard time touching raw chicken. I told her I was always just happy I didn't have to cut off its head and pluck it first like great-grandma used to do. She told me a long time later that she think about that every time she cooks chicken and it isn't so bad.
GG was amazing. Cheated at cards, called YOU a shitass if you tried to stop her... or just said, "I'm old" with doe eyes like she had made an error instead of a calculated move.
When my father walked in the house and said, "How you doing Gracie"... she'd retort... "Everyone I can and the dumb ones twice..."
She had a partial mastectomy, and once when she saw an aunt looking at dresses in a catalog told her she'd rather stand outside naked with her one tit flapping in the wind that spend $30 for a dress.
$$ was an issue she liked to harp on... it always pissed her off that they spent as much money adding a bathroom to the farmhouse as they had originally spent for the entire farm and 100 acres... $500.
Oh. I miss that lady. I'll sometimes make violet jelly to remember her (which tastes like sugar but is the most beautiful purple color) ... but I'm not milking a cow or butchering a chicken unless there is no other resort.
Thankfully... there are currently still many other options.
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Post by resolution on May 18, 2020 14:24:09 GMT -5
Our local Mennonites are evangelizing and mail me a flyer every month, but they accidentally started out with the one that said women must submit.
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Post by lynnerself on May 18, 2020 14:24:23 GMT -5
And ironically, many of the things in short supply are "back to the basics". Material to build stuff, canning jars, fabric, ice cream makers etc.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 18, 2020 14:24:29 GMT -5
My local Home Depot is fresh out of horse drawn buggies. I've not seen them at my local Ford dealership in awhile either.....
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 18, 2020 14:24:45 GMT -5
I could with some time and resources grow your bacon in a petri dish. Bet old people can't do that! I could too. Helpless snowflake! Look at what the educational system has done to us!
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 18, 2020 14:25:29 GMT -5
Do you think Amazon could deliver the horses for me? I need them in the next two hours if I am going to make it to Wal-mart and back while there is still daylight.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 18, 2020 14:26:28 GMT -5
And ironically, many of the things in short supply are "back to the basics". Material to build stuff, canning jars, fabric, ice cream makers etc. yeast Still not in our local stores, even though we have just about everything else. My Audrey is voracious, so even though it takes her longer to get bread to rise, she does so beautifully.
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Post by swamp on May 18, 2020 14:27:07 GMT -5
Our local Mennonites are evangelizing and mail me a flyer every month, but they accidentally started out with the one that said women must submit. Are your Mennonities Amish-Lite or Modernized?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 14:33:46 GMT -5
Things out of stock - isopropyl alcohol.
Can't made dendrites without it... headed to find it online...
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Post by oped on May 18, 2020 14:39:20 GMT -5
Yes we can’t get isopropyl alcohol either. Or yeast. Or disinfectant wipes. Neosporin has been out at the grocery for weeks.
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Post by resolution on May 18, 2020 14:41:05 GMT -5
Our local Mennonites are evangelizing and mail me a flyer every month, but they accidentally started out with the one that said women must submit. Are your Mennonities Amish-Lite or Modernized? They are pretty modern. They drive and use sewing machines and modern kitchen equipment, although they appear to stay in traditional occupations like farming, trades, and running stores selling homemade goods. Most of them don't have internet though, which makes it hard to look for a house in certain areas where internet lines were never run. Even our Amish will use motorized equipment as long as its for occupational reasons. I have literally seen one get out of their buggy that they use for personal transport and into a forklift to help load our truck when we were purchasing farming supplies.
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Post by weltschmerz on May 18, 2020 14:42:09 GMT -5
My local Home Depot is fresh out of horse drawn buggies. Actually, our Lowe's has several horse drawn buggies parked outside at any given time. They're Amish. I don't know of a single Non-amish person who has opted to join them, but I know several who have left. They said it sucks. Walmart has a hitching post specifically for the Amish. And yes, you can buy some replacement parts for the buggies. Our trading posts have poles outside where you can hitch your dogsled team while you shop for whale blubber and blankets.
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Post by resolution on May 18, 2020 14:43:07 GMT -5
Our stores are still out of liquid hand soap. I haven't tried for hand sanitizer recently. They are also out of weird random things, like Claussen brand pickles and specific types of cereal, although they have plenty of pickles and cereal of other types.
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Post by haapai on May 18, 2020 14:46:45 GMT -5
I can't find hair clippers for the dog ... first. I'll wait.
Soup has not been on sale for at least a month. I'll wait.
Ham hocks are now available, but I can't find dried beans. I can't even figure out where dried beans used to be stocked. I don't think that I have much basis for complaining here.
Doggie duty bags are sold out except for the "mighty" size and the 20# dog does not need the premium varietyI'll wait.
Dog beds are also sold out but since the dog has been happily sleeping on my laundry for seven years, I'm really not in a good position to complain about this either.
Decently constructed, slightly androgynous women's hats have been scarce for years and I'm still looking for something to replace the one that was worn during last mud season. No luck yet, but this might have more to to with fashion than pandemic.
Any thermometer is hard to find these days. I'm on the lookout for an actual medical thermometer. Meat thermometers tend to have pokey ends that no sane person wants to put in their mouths. Sticking one of them under an armpit and adding a degree is also an unsettling experience.
It would be nice to see isopropyl alcohol available again. The thrill of sanitizing my hands with sanitizer containing 70% ethanol has worn off. I'm tired of smelling like cheap tequila whenever I punch in from breaks. It was deliciously transgressive for about a week, but the thrill is gone now.
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Post by Tiny on May 18, 2020 15:00:15 GMT -5
LOL... icecream makers make me think of the Little House on the Prairie books. I read them for the first time a couple of years ago. When the Ingall kids are a bit older - ma and pa Ingalls leave the house/farm for a few days (can't remember why). They leave the the kids in charge (FWIW I think the kids are teens) and it's summer - so they pretty much just need to keep the livestock and themselves fed for a few days. The kids manage to do "chores" for a day - but then anarchy and dissent set in - and the kids make icecream and do a few chores. The third day little to nothing gets done and they basically make and eat icecream. Who knew you could make ice cream without electricity!! (they had an "ice house" filled with blocks of ice (and sawdust as insulation?) they had cut from the local pond during the winter) The thought of those 3 or 4 day in 1880's a middle of nowhere farm when the kids said "screw the daily grind - lets just eat icecream and take it easy" always makes me smile. They had some heck to pay when Ma and Pa got home.... as it was obvious the daily routine of farm care hadn't been happening. To the topic, I've been able to find/buy all the stuff I've needed/wanted. I had a good supply of TP and Papertowels going into it. I didn't see a need for "sanitizers" and "wipes" - I live alone and WFH. I noticed the canned sardines and spam are back in stock at my local Aldi.
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Post by haapai on May 18, 2020 15:11:09 GMT -5
My parents lived through some tough times, but they have never butchered a hog and wouldn't know how to make soap without further instructions. My kids and my parents would be equally uncomfortable with your list, and my parents aren't snowflakes. I am not sure my kids are either, but since we are channeling the old man who shakes his fist and yells "Get off my lawn you damn kids" it seems pointless to discuss the possibility that the younger generation is strong and hardworking. True. But I don't see what it even has to do with things being sold out? Why the segue there? No one was whinging about it, just factual statements of what is available. "I haven't seen disinfectant wipes at the store in a few months" "What if you had to butcher a hog you snowflake!" What Crazy, senseless interchange. I can only think that phil has been trolling to boards with intent to make such a post, and this was the closest he could find to wedge it in? #sad I'll stick up for phil here. I'm not sure whether I've been in agreement with much that he has posted recently, but I don't know how to butcher a hog. I've been around when hogs were being butchered, but never part of the process.
From what I can tell, it is a difficult, chaotic, brawn-heavy process that even when done well sounds and looks like mayhem. It is hard to permanently immobilize a hog, harder to lift it, and keeping the rest of the process remotely hygienic is worth respecting. My hat is off to anyone who knows how to do it properly.
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Post by thyme4change on May 18, 2020 15:12:24 GMT -5
My parents lived through some tough times, but they have never butchered a hog and wouldn't know how to make soap without further instructions. My kids and my parents would be equally uncomfortable with your list, and my parents aren't snowflakes. I am not sure my kids are either, but since we are channeling the old man who shakes his fist and yells "Get off my lawn you damn kids" it seems pointless to discuss the possibility that the younger generation is strong and hardworking. True. But I don't see what it even has to do with things being sold out? Why the segue there? No one was whinging about it, just factual statements of what is available. "I haven't seen disinfectant wipes at the store in a few months" "What if you had to butcher a hog you snowflake!" What Crazy, senseless interchange. I can only think that phil has been trolling to boards with intent to make such a post, and this was the closest he could find to wedge it in? #sad Kinda like.... Person 1) "I use meat in my lasagne" Person 2) "You are so weak for not knowing how to change the oil in your car!"
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Post by swamp on May 18, 2020 15:13:31 GMT -5
Actually, our Lowe's has several horse drawn buggies parked outside at any given time. They're Amish. I don't know of a single Non-amish person who has opted to join them, but I know several who have left. They said it sucks. Walmart has a hitching post specifically for the Amish. And yes, you can buy some replacement parts for the buggies. Our trading posts have poles outside where you can hitch your dogsled team while you shop for whale blubber and blankets. I've been to Montreal. you're full of shit.
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Post by swamp on May 18, 2020 15:16:02 GMT -5
I went shopping yesterday. You could only buy 4 boxes of pasta at a time. But it was still on sale 10 for $10.
I guess everyone decided to go on a pandemic carb binge.
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 18, 2020 15:19:20 GMT -5
I've also had trouble finding a headset for my DH for work. I found one but the website was not accurate, they were backordered. I found it on Ebay today and cancelled the other order.
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