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Post by zibazinski on Nov 5, 2018 18:21:03 GMT -5
Insulting people who don’t agree with your pov just makes you look even more ridiculous than usual. I hope the people who want their country protected for a change instead of flooded by criminals and freeloaders get the chance to do so.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Nov 5, 2018 18:24:22 GMT -5
Insulting people who don’t agree with your pov just makes you look even more ridiculous than usual. I hope the people who want their country protected for a change instead of flooded by criminals and freeloaders get the chance to do so. Well said, Zib. All I could envision was the stomping of little feet and the usual spit coming from a vile, hateful mouth.
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Post by mroped on Nov 5, 2018 19:07:28 GMT -5
Not if you’re looking for a new voter base. Really? So this is after all about “them illegals are voting for the democrats” kinda thing right?🙈
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Post by mroped on Nov 5, 2018 19:13:52 GMT -5
It's not a freakin' invastion, they are asking for asylum which they are entitled to do under the Geneva Convention. If we turn them away without accepting the application, we are breaking the law. What are you talking about? Geneva Convention? That’s not even a thing! It’s all like Paris Accord or CAFTA or PTT and so on! Those are all made up! Fake I tell you! We don’t believe in that! B
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 5, 2018 20:26:16 GMT -5
You ranted and raved about the use of "illegals" so I focused on that.
Anchor baby is not racist. It is again, descriptive and it is clearly used by women to gain citizenship to the US. Someone earlier in this thread posted about this being an actual business in China. So no, it isn't racist nor is it dehumanizing.
I did not "rant and rave". If you'd actually read my post, you'd have seen that I pointed out that the term "anchor baby" is a perjorative slur. Babies born in the US are American citizens with all the rights of American citizenship. You can argue about whether birthright citizenship is good or bad - that's another argument. But insulting babies who are completely innocent of any wrong doing is just not "pro-lifey". Actually, you said it was racist, not a pejorative slur
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 5, 2018 21:15:25 GMT -5
I did not "rant and rave". If you'd actually read my post, you'd have seen that I pointed out that the term "anchor baby" is a perjorative slur. Babies born in the US are American citizens with all the rights of American citizenship. You can argue about whether birthright citizenship is good or bad - that's another argument. But insulting babies who are completely innocent of any wrong doing is just not "pro-lifey". Actually, you said it was racist, not a pejorative slur It’s all of the above and disgusting to use such a term for innocent American citizens who have done nothing wrong.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 5, 2018 22:32:30 GMT -5
Insulting people who don’t agree with your pov just makes you look even more ridiculous than usual. I hope the people who want their country protected for a change instead of flooded by criminals and freeloaders get the chance to do so. Well said, Zib. All I could envision was the stomping of little feet and the usual spit coming from a vile, hateful mouth. Well, that's interesting, considering that Zib wants these men, women and children shot. Now THAT'S vile and hateful.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Nov 6, 2018 11:00:46 GMT -5
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zibazinski
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 6, 2018 15:30:28 GMT -5
Boo hoo. I care about this country. These are not “innocent “ little citizens. These are used as a foothold into freebies. I don’t care what Force is used against unwanted invaders.
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Post by hurley1980 on Nov 6, 2018 15:33:32 GMT -5
Boo hoo. I care about this country. These are not “innocent “ little citizens. These are used as a foothold into freebies. I don’t care what Force is used against unwanted invaders. So infants, toddlers, and young children are not innocent little citizens? What are they, the spawn of satan? How are these kids NOT innocent? You need to find some empathy real quicklike!
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 6, 2018 15:44:55 GMT -5
No, I don’t. My responsibility is to my family. That’s it. Period. Don’t breed them if you can’t feed them.
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Post by hurley1980 on Nov 6, 2018 16:27:26 GMT -5
Wow, just wow. WWJD? Certainly not respond like that!
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 6, 2018 16:35:59 GMT -5
Everyone should remember this picture. A Syrian child and his family escaping the war in Syria. Refugee boat overturned. Three year old Alan Kurdi drowned.
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 6, 2018 16:43:32 GMT -5
Don’t bring up religious beliefs when you really don’t believe in religion. It’s not a crutch to use to try to get your point across. Like calling people “racist “ that don’t believe in becoming the toilet of the world. It doesn’t work.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 6, 2018 17:23:47 GMT -5
I can only begin to imagine how utterly miserable a person would have to be to be so callous towards innocent children.
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Post by hurley1980 on Nov 6, 2018 17:36:07 GMT -5
So basically you are responsible for your children, and your children only. And others are responsible for their children, and them only.
God forbid you ever have a child or grandchild go missing or get kidnapped, because I assume you would turn away any support from search groups/volunteers. Those kids are no ones responsibility but your own! You better find them yourself, or screw 'em!
Do you see how cold you sound?!?!? I can't help but think you don't really feel this way deep down, you are just trying to stir the pot.
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Post by tbop77 on Nov 6, 2018 17:54:53 GMT -5
In compassionate Christian conservative land, we'd spend 200 million dollars to keep them out...or just shoot them!
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 9, 2018 0:25:40 GMT -5
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Post by dezii on Nov 9, 2018 4:47:44 GMT -5
understand and accept such actions...get that from your bolded statement abovce Boo hoo. I care about this country. These are not “innocent “ little citizens. These are used as a foothold into freebies. I don’t care what Force is used against unwanted invaders. "I don’t care what Force is used against unwanted invaders. "Kinda blood thirsty aren't u...am thinking of babes in arm of mothers as machine gun projectiles tear into the bodies...naturally also hitting those infants but in your mind, possible regrettable but acceptable. Gotcha...understand. For those who might feel such actions against children would not in reality be taken...too dishonorable...just not done. Hate to bust that bubble but it has been done very, very accepted I am sorry to say...Possible u would be comfortable with such a happening...getting that feeling by your own post..see bolded above. Just saying. ----------------------------------------- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Holocaust
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 9, 2018 4:55:09 GMT -5
Boo hoo. I care about this country. These are not “innocent “ little citizens. These are used as a foothold into freebies. I don’t care what Force is used against unwanted invaders. "I don’t care what Force is used against unwanted invaders. "Kinda blood thirsty aren't u...am thinking of babes in arm of mothers as machine gun projectiles tear into the bodies...naturally also hitting those infants but in your mind, possible regrettable but acceptable. Gotcha...understand. Glad that’s cleared up for you.
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Post by tbop77 on Nov 9, 2018 6:23:41 GMT -5
understand and accept such actions...get that from your bolded statement abovce Boo hoo. I care about this country. These are not “innocent “ little citizens. These are used as a foothold into freebies. I don’t care what Force is used against unwanted invaders. "I don’t care what Force is used against unwanted invaders. "Kinda blood thirsty aren't u...am thinking of babes in arm of mothers as machine gun projectiles tear into the bodies...naturally also hitting those infants but in your mind, possible regrettable but acceptable. Gotcha...understand. For those who might feel such actions against children would not in reality be taken...too dishonorable...just not done. Hate to bust that bubble but it has been done very, very accepted I am sorry to say...Possible u would be comfortable with such a happening...getting that feeling by your own post..see bolded above. Just saying. ----------------------------------------- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_HolocaustCompassionate Christian conservative land, Dezil! Taking after their leader. And pretending to care about this country.
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 9, 2018 6:29:34 GMT -5
Caring about this country is exactly that. Anyone with half a brain knows it’s not about sympathy for the invaders but another agenda. Sorry not sorry. He’s doing what he was elected to do. We have our own problems that need solving. We don’t need more of them. You see future voters, I see more money wasted.
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Post by tbop77 on Nov 9, 2018 7:17:13 GMT -5
Caring about this country is exactly that. Anyone with half a brain knows it’s not about sympathy for the invaders but another agenda. Sorry not sorry. He’s doing what he was elected to do. We have our own problems that need solving. We don’t need more of them. You see future voters, I see more money wasted. $200-$300 million dollars to keep out 4K people makes sense to you? Sorry, not sorry, that is just stupid!
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 9, 2018 7:37:52 GMT -5
They’d cost more in the long run. Don’t care. It sends a message that’s long overdue.
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Post by Great on Nov 9, 2018 9:21:36 GMT -5
Caring about this country is exactly that. Anyone with half a brain knows it’s not about sympathy for the invaders but another agenda. Sorry not sorry. He’s doing what he was elected to do. We have our own problems that need solving. We don’t need more of them. You see future voters, I see more money wasted. $200-$300 million dollars to keep out 4K people makes sense to you? Sorry, not sorry, that is just stupid! Ask an American citizen that has lost a family member at the hands of an illegal immigrant if their loved ones lives could be replaced for $200-300M, then call them stupid as they grieve their loss. Its also about more than 4K illegals entering our country illegally and abusing our system, that estimate has been revised and is growing. There are more waves of caravans forming as well and will continue until its stopped. Asylum claims have been grossly abused. Migrants should only be allowed to claim asylum only at legal ports of entry. The USA should also have a merit based system, including criminal background checks prior to entry.
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Post by oped on Nov 9, 2018 9:24:44 GMT -5
Are you fucking kidding? Exponentially more citizens lose a family member to mass murdering white men with guns than to illegal immigrants.
Asylum claims are handled individually as they should be as our laws dictate.
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Post by Great on Nov 9, 2018 9:42:24 GMT -5
Are you fucking kidding? Exponentially more citizens lose a family member to mass murdering white men with guns than to illegal immigrants. Asylum claims are handled individually as they should be as our laws dictate. What does mass murder have to do with illegals that have killed and maimed Americans? Is this the whataboutisms the Dems like bring up all the time?
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 9, 2018 9:46:48 GMT -5
Are you fucking kidding? Exponentially more citizens lose a family member to mass murdering white men with guns than to illegal immigrants. Asylum claims are handled individually as they should be as our laws dictate. What does mass murder have to do with illegals that have killed and maimed Americans? Is this the whataboutisms the Dems like bring up all the time? I believe oped (correct me if I'm wrong) is saying there are far more, exponentially more, mass murders by white men than by illegal immigrants. It's an issue of scale.
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Post by tbop77 on Nov 9, 2018 9:46:54 GMT -5
$200-$300 million dollars to keep out 4K people makes sense to you? Sorry, not sorry, that is just stupid! Ask an American citizen that has lost a family member at the hands of an illegal immigrant if their loved ones lives could be replaced for $200-300M, then call them stupid as they grieve their loss. Its also about more than 4K illegals entering our country illegally and abusing our system, that estimate has been revised and is growing. There are more waves of caravans forming as well and will continue until its stopped. Asylum claims have been grossly abused. Migrants should only be allowed to claim asylum only at legal ports of entry. The USA should also have a merit based system, including criminal background checks prior to entry. Ask your great leader why he don't get with his buddy Mitch and work on immigration.
Despite President Donald Trump's alarm that a caravan of migrants heading to the US border from Central America was causing a "crisis" in the run-up to the midterm elections, Republican leadership in the Senate expressed little desire Wednesday to tackle the immigration issue.
www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/mcconnell-immigration-plan/index.html
Oh wait...guess he'll be running in 2020 and need something to keep his base stirred up!
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Post by andi9899 on Nov 9, 2018 9:51:11 GMT -5
They’d cost more in the long run. Don’t care. It sends a message that’s long overdue. How would they cost more in the long run? They can't receive welfare or food stamps. They do the piddly jobs most Americans consider beneath them for a wage most Americans wouldn't even get off the couch for, keeping pricesif good for the restof us lower. They take care of their children and each other which is more than a lot of Americans including you are willing to consider. They fly below the radar to not be detected and possibly deported back to a country they ran from to save their lives. How is it exactly that they would cost us more in the long run? And don't give me some obtuse answer. Actually give an intelligent logical argument for once.
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