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Post by Value Buy on Nov 3, 2018 18:34:01 GMT -5
Go ahead and blame the Mexicans. Does not change the fact it becomes our problem at the border. Mexico does not stop the mob because their citizens along the path make money off them via food and water purchases, and taxi services on many of the vehicles. It actually helps their broken economy. If Mexican authorities wanted to stop the caravan they simply pull all the drivers over, tell them to either turn around or they will disable the vehicle by puncturing the tires or radiator. I imagine some authorities are bribed to look the other way. Migrant caravan presses on toward the U.S. by foot, denied buses by Mexico www.cbc.ca/news/world/migrant-caravan-denied-buses-1.4887023The article explained why. Mexico city was low on water. Look at the picture in your article Tons of women and children boarding that truck. No bus no problem. Bring in the trucks!
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 3, 2018 18:35:14 GMT -5
Some find the term insulting. I never said it was racist. I explained to a poster who thought the word Asian was a racist term. Go nag someone else. How in the world am I nagging you? You said the term anchor baby was “deemed racist”. I asked how. Which you still didn’t explain.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 3, 2018 18:37:13 GMT -5
Which race does it reference? Does not specifically reference any race. But the term is considered to be by some to be pejorative. Anchor babySo it doesn’t reference any race but it is deemed racist? You liberals crack me up!
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 3, 2018 19:33:39 GMT -5
Some find the term insulting. I never said it was racist. I explained to a poster who thought the word Asian was a racist term. Go nag someone else. How in the world am I nagging you? You said the term anchor baby was “deemed racist”. I asked how. Which you still didn’t explain. Read the friggin thread from the start. I never said it was racist.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 3, 2018 19:54:22 GMT -5
How in the world am I nagging you? You said the term anchor baby was “deemed racist”. I asked how. Which you still didn’t explain. Read the friggin thread from the start. I never said it was racist. You said it was "deemed racist"...I've read the thread from the start. You are the first person to state that "anchor babies" was "deemed racist". I am still asking how it is racist. I don't expect an answer. Typical of people tossing around "racist".
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 3, 2018 20:15:10 GMT -5
Read the friggin thread from the start. I never said it was racist. You said it was "deemed racist"...I've read the thread from the start. You are the first person to state that "anchor babies" was "deemed racist". I am still asking how it is racist. I don't expect an answer. Typical of people tossing around "racist". It was deemed racist by this poster: Actually, most anchor babies are Asian. linkIs it really necessary to use a loaded racist slur to make a point? Then Tyme posted the below and I replied this: Is "Asian" a loaded racial slur now? I want to keep up so I'm not that old lady who doesn't understand why we can't call little black girls pickaninnies, or whatever. It was the term 'anchor baby' which was deemed racist. My reply was the term was deemed ( by GG) to be racist and not 'Asian' as asked by Thyme. Make more sense now?
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Post by ednkris on Nov 3, 2018 20:50:38 GMT -5
Someone I don't know triyng to push their way into my house saying they are hungry and need a place to stay , threatens me with violence by throwing rocks at me...yup out comes the shotgun Nobody is “trying to push their way into your house”. They are knocking on the front door and making a request” Asking for asylum is perfectly legal No I was replying to which the comment was made that Trump said if they throw rocks at military they may get shot at. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 3, 2018 20:51:13 GMT -5
Read the friggin thread from the start. I never said it was racist. You said it was "deemed racist"...I've read the thread from the start. You are the first person to state that "anchor babies" was "deemed racist". I am still asking how it is racist. I don't expect an answer. Typical of people tossing around "racist". Maybe this will help. Or maybe not. Depends on whether you actually want a response or an argument.... You can argue that the term is not racist, but is absolutely is a perjorative term aimed at innocent babies who are , by law, American citizens. And who just happen to be minorities “Children are widely seen as innocent and pure … yet there is an unspoken racial element there, for children of color are all too often pictured as criminals or welfare cheats in training,” said Haney Lopez, author of “Dog Whistle Politics: How Coded Racial Appeals Have Reinvented Racism and Wrecked The Middle Class.” www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/latinos-outraged-anchor-baby-term-see-it-offensive-n413391Using terms like 'illegal alien,' 'illegals' as a noun, and 'anchor babies' is dehumanizing and by their bias and loaded nature, eliminate any semblance of fairness when covering the [immigration] debate." abcnews.go.com/Politics/anchor-baby-phrase-controversial-history/story?id=11066543Use of the term is considered to be dehumanizing and racist. Unlike its counterpart “illegal,” “anchor baby” implies rather clearly that undocumented immigrant mothers are having children in the United States with the sole purpose of gaining citizenship.” genprogress.org/voices/2015/09/17/39715/the-history-and-stereotypes-behind-the-term-anchor-babies/
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 3, 2018 20:55:12 GMT -5
Nobody is “trying to push their way into your house”. They are knocking on the front door and making a request” Asking for asylum is perfectly legal No I was replying to which the comment was made that Trump said if they throw rocks at military they may get shot at. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Ever heard of Posse Comitatus? I thought not.
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Post by ednkris on Nov 4, 2018 11:17:12 GMT -5
No I was replying to which the comment was made that Trump said if they throw rocks at military they may get shot at. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Ever heard of Posse Comitatus? I thought not. Inherd of it, It doesn't apply to the president or this situation. after all it is an invasion. As far as my personal home all I have to think is your going to do me harm..
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 4, 2018 12:35:08 GMT -5
Ever heard of Posse Comitatus? I thought not. ... after all it is an invasion. ... I would prefer we not test how far a president can stretch word meaning to allow for use of the military.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 4, 2018 13:03:47 GMT -5
Events along the border can only go down hill from here. I fear our border patrol agents and U.S. troops are going to have a bigger problem with the militias than they are with this so called group of invaders. U.S. militia groups head to border, stirred by Trump’s call to arms
FALFURRIAS, Tex. —Gun-carrying civilian groups and border vigilantes have heard a call to arms in President Trump’s warnings about threats to American security posed by caravans of Central American migrants moving through Mexico. They’re packing coolers and tents, oiling rifles and tuning up aerial drones, with plans to form caravans of their own and trail American troops to the border. “We’ll observe and report, and offer aid in any way we can,” said Shannon McGauley, a bail bondsman in the Dallas suburbs who is president of the Texas Minutemen. McGauley said he was preparing to head for the Rio Grande in coming days. “We’ve proved ourselves before, and we’ll prove ourselves again,” he said. Complete article here: U.S. militia groups head to border, stirred by Trump’s call to arms
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Post by dezii on Nov 4, 2018 14:11:54 GMT -5
Events along the border can only go down hill from here. I fear our border patrol agents and U.S. troops are going to have a bigger with the militias than they are with this so called group of invaders. U.S. militia groups head to border, stirred by Trump’s call to arms
FALFURRIAS, Tex. —Gun-carrying civilian groups and border vigilantes have heard a call to arms in President Trump’s warnings about threats to American security posed by caravans of Central American migrants moving through Mexico. They’re packing coolers and tents, oiling rifles and tuning up aerial drones, with plans to form caravans of their own and trail American troops to the border. “We’ll observe and report, and offer aid in any way we can,” said Shannon McGauley, a bail bondsman in the Dallas suburbs who is president of the Texas Minutemen. McGauley said he was preparing to head for the Rio Grande in coming days. “We’ve proved ourselves before, and we’ll prove ourselves again,” he said. Complete article here: U.S. militia groups head to border, stirred by Trump’s call to armsTo expect Trump to speak out against these groups and folks and tell them to stay home, not needed BEFORE the midterms of the sixth is not going to happen...they are his base ...after the midterms...probable but damage already done.. Would any of those groups actually fire on unarmed folks...…? Oh yeah and am sure more then one.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 4, 2018 14:23:48 GMT -5
Events along the border can only go down hill from here. I fear our border patrol agents and U.S. troops are going to have a bigger with the militias than they are with this so called group of invaders. U.S. militia groups head to border, stirred by Trump’s call to arms
FALFURRIAS, Tex. —Gun-carrying civilian groups and border vigilantes have heard a call to arms in President Trump’s warnings about threats to American security posed by caravans of Central American migrants moving through Mexico. They’re packing coolers and tents, oiling rifles and tuning up aerial drones, with plans to form caravans of their own and trail American troops to the border. “We’ll observe and report, and offer aid in any way we can,” said Shannon McGauley, a bail bondsman in the Dallas suburbs who is president of the Texas Minutemen. McGauley said he was preparing to head for the Rio Grande in coming days. “We’ve proved ourselves before, and we’ll prove ourselves again,” he said. Complete article here: U.S. militia groups head to border, stirred by Trump’s call to armsGreat, a group of trigger happy vigilantes is going to confront unarmed, exhausted, men, women and children. What could possibly go wrong?
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Post by justme on Nov 4, 2018 14:47:48 GMT -5
Events along the border can only go down hill from here. I fear our border patrol agents and U.S. troops are going to have a bigger problem with the militias than they are with this so called group of invaders. U.S. militia groups head to border, stirred by Trump’s call to arms
FALFURRIAS, Tex. —Gun-carrying civilian groups and border vigilantes have heard a call to arms in President Trump’s warnings about threats to American security posed by caravans of Central American migrants moving through Mexico. They’re packing coolers and tents, oiling rifles and tuning up aerial drones, with plans to form caravans of their own and trail American troops to the border. “We’ll observe and report, and offer aid in any way we can,” said Shannon McGauley, a bail bondsman in the Dallas suburbs who is president of the Texas Minutemen. McGauley said he was preparing to head for the Rio Grande in coming days. “We’ve proved ourselves before, and we’ll prove ourselves again,” he said. Complete article here: U.S. militia groups head to border, stirred by Trump’s call to armsWonder what they proved themselves before at?
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 5, 2018 12:22:08 GMT -5
You said it was "deemed racist"...I've read the thread from the start. You are the first person to state that "anchor babies" was "deemed racist". I am still asking how it is racist. I don't expect an answer. Typical of people tossing around "racist". Maybe this will help. Or maybe not. Depends on whether you actually want a response or an argument.... You can argue that the term is not racist, but is absolutely is a perjorative term aimed at innocent babies who are , by law, American citizens. And who just happen to be minorities “Children are widely seen as innocent and pure … yet there is an unspoken racial element there, for children of color are all too often pictured as criminals or welfare cheats in training,” said Haney Lopez, author of “Dog Whistle Politics: How Coded Racial Appeals Have Reinvented Racism and Wrecked The Middle Class.” www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/latinos-outraged-anchor-baby-term-see-it-offensive-n413391Using terms like 'illegal alien,' 'illegals' as a noun, and 'anchor babies' is dehumanizing and by their bias and loaded nature, eliminate any semblance of fairness when covering the [immigration] debate." abcnews.go.com/Politics/anchor-baby-phrase-controversial-history/story?id=11066543Use of the term is considered to be dehumanizing and racist. Unlike its counterpart “illegal,” “anchor baby” implies rather clearly that undocumented immigrant mothers are having children in the United States with the sole purpose of gaining citizenship.” genprogress.org/voices/2015/09/17/39715/the-history-and-stereotypes-behind-the-term-anchor-babies/First off, even liberals have used the term "illegals". it is only in the last couple years when you all made up the term "undocumented". Do some research...Hillary Clinton called them illegals as late as 2015. Funny that there was no rallying cry that she was racist.
Here is a hint...when someone is in my country illegally they are an illegal. That is not dehumanizing but descriptive. Just like a person selling drugs without a license is call a drug dealer and not "undocumented pharmacist" or a person stealing my car is called a "thief" and not an "undocumented driver"....it is pure lunacy.
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 5, 2018 12:28:50 GMT -5
Maybe this will help. Or maybe not. Depends on whether you actually want a response or an argument.... You can argue that the term is not racist, but is absolutely is a perjorative term aimed at innocent babies who are , by law, American citizens. And who just happen to be minorities “Children are widely seen as innocent and pure … yet there is an unspoken racial element there, for children of color are all too often pictured as criminals or welfare cheats in training,” said Haney Lopez, author of “Dog Whistle Politics: How Coded Racial Appeals Have Reinvented Racism and Wrecked The Middle Class.” www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/latinos-outraged-anchor-baby-term-see-it-offensive-n413391Using terms like 'illegal alien,' 'illegals' as a noun, and 'anchor babies' is dehumanizing and by their bias and loaded nature, eliminate any semblance of fairness when covering the [immigration] debate." abcnews.go.com/Politics/anchor-baby-phrase-controversial-history/story?id=11066543Use of the term is considered to be dehumanizing and racist. Unlike its counterpart “illegal,” “anchor baby” implies rather clearly that undocumented immigrant mothers are having children in the United States with the sole purpose of gaining citizenship.” genprogress.org/voices/2015/09/17/39715/the-history-and-stereotypes-behind-the-term-anchor-babies/First off, even liberals have used the term "illegals". it is only in the last couple years when you all made up the term "undocumented". Do some research...Hillary Clinton called them illegals as late as 2015. Funny that there was no rallying cry that she was racist.
Here is a hint...when someone is in my country illegally they are an illegal. That is not dehumanizing but descriptive. Just like a person selling drugs without a license is call a drug dealer and not "undocumented pharmacist" or a person stealing my car is called a "thief" and not an "undocumented driver"....it is pure lunacy.
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Post by hurley1980 on Nov 5, 2018 13:04:21 GMT -5
These poor people! Send some up my way, I have 2 spare rooms and would love to help them apply for asylum, so them and their children can have a chance at a better life!
These are not people that are going to milk the system. They are desperate! If given the chance, they will work harder than most of the citizens in this country, who are so spoiled they have no clue what real hard work is! I would love for you to support them in your extra bedrooms for the next two decades totally at your expense.Fact is out of the thousands, we are talking possibly 100's who qualify for asylum. Why should we pick up the monetary tab trying to find them, and then pay transportation costs to send them back? I believe dj, promised to house a couple of Muslim refugees a couple of years ago. It never happened. What makes you think they will leech off of me for two decades? Good lord, have you ever met an immigrant? My family had 2 El Salvadoran brothers that stayed with us when they first entered the country in the early nineties. They worked hard, paid gave us money to help with food and bills, cooked, cleaned, even drove me and my sister to dance class and little league. They stayed with us for about 4-6 months. It was a wonderful life changing experience for all of us, and they are still like family members to this day! They have both since returned to El Salvador (to take care of their sick mother), but they still talk to my family regularly.
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Post by hurley1980 on Nov 5, 2018 13:06:42 GMT -5
These poor people! Send some up my way, I have 2 spare rooms and would love to help them apply for asylum, so them and their children can have a chance at a better life!
These are not people that are going to milk the system. They are desperate! If given the chance, they will work harder than most of the citizens in this country, who are so spoiled they have no clue what real hard work is! Here's one that is looking for help, I'm thinking you are a dream come true for him. It appears he's going to need money for an attorney, but sure with all the sympathy you posses you'll be delighted to extend a helping hand and your bank account, or maybe just a place to stay while he really works really, really hard. His story... There's always one bad apple. Doesn't mean they are all like that! If that were true, then every crazy trump supporter would be a #magabomber. That's not the case is it?
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Post by swamp on Nov 5, 2018 13:09:55 GMT -5
Ever heard of Posse Comitatus? I thought not. Inherd of it, It doesn't apply to the president or this situation. after all it is an invasion. As far as my personal home all I have to think is your going to do me harm.. It's not a freakin' invastion, they are asking for asylum which they are entitled to do under the Geneva Convention. If we turn them away without accepting the application, we are breaking the law.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 5, 2018 13:59:15 GMT -5
Maybe this will help. Or maybe not. Depends on whether you actually want a response or an argument.... You can argue that the term is not racist, but is absolutely is a perjorative term aimed at innocent babies who are , by law, American citizens. And who just happen to be minorities “Children are widely seen as innocent and pure … yet there is an unspoken racial element there, for children of color are all too often pictured as criminals or welfare cheats in training,” said Haney Lopez, author of “Dog Whistle Politics: How Coded Racial Appeals Have Reinvented Racism and Wrecked The Middle Class.” www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/latinos-outraged-anchor-baby-term-see-it-offensive-n413391Using terms like 'illegal alien,' 'illegals' as a noun, and 'anchor babies' is dehumanizing and by their bias and loaded nature, eliminate any semblance of fairness when covering the [immigration] debate." abcnews.go.com/Politics/anchor-baby-phrase-controversial-history/story?id=11066543Use of the term is considered to be dehumanizing and racist. Unlike its counterpart “illegal,” “anchor baby” implies rather clearly that undocumented immigrant mothers are having children in the United States with the sole purpose of gaining citizenship.” genprogress.org/voices/2015/09/17/39715/the-history-and-stereotypes-behind-the-term-anchor-babies/First off, even liberals have used the term "illegals". it is only in the last couple years when you all made up the term "undocumented". Do some research...Hillary Clinton called them illegals as late as 2015. Funny that there was no rallying cry that she was racist.
Here is a hint...when someone is in my country illegally they are an illegal. That is not dehumanizing but descriptive. Just like a person selling drugs without a license is call a drug dealer and not "undocumented pharmacist" or a person stealing my car is called a "thief" and not an "undocumented driver"....it is pure lunacy.
Umm. You didn't even address the term. Here's a hint. It was "anchor baby".
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They aren’t seeking asylum or they’d stay in Mexico. It’s been offered but no thanks, they want American handouts. I’m fine with no one allowed in period. By whatever means it takes. If trump allows them in,he’ll have more than the left hating his guts. He’ll have Americans hating his guts. He knows this. You really have no idea what you're talking about. Just like DT, instead of taking the time to learn about the subject, you just spout ignorant comments. You refuse to see past the nose on your face. Education can be your friend if you let it.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 5, 2018 16:40:05 GMT -5
First off, even liberals have used the term "illegals". it is only in the last couple years when you all made up the term "undocumented". Do some research...Hillary Clinton called them illegals as late as 2015. Funny that there was no rallying cry that she was racist.
Here is a hint...when someone is in my country illegally they are an illegal. That is not dehumanizing but descriptive. Just like a person selling drugs without a license is call a drug dealer and not "undocumented pharmacist" or a person stealing my car is called a "thief" and not an "undocumented driver"....it is pure lunacy.
Umm. You didn't even address the term. Here's a hint. It was "anchor baby". You ranted and raved about the use of "illegals" so I focused on that.
Anchor baby is not racist. It is again, descriptive and it is clearly used by women to gain citizenship to the US. Someone earlier in this thread posted about this being an actual business in China. So no, it isn't racist nor is it dehumanizing.
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Umm. You didn't even address the term. Here's a hint. It was "anchor baby". You ranted and raved about the use of "illegals" so I focused on that.
Anchor baby is not racist. It is again, descriptive and it is clearly used by women to gain citizenship to the US. Someone earlier in this thread posted about this being an actual business in China. So no, it isn't racist nor is it dehumanizing.
I did not "rant and rave". If you'd actually read my post, you'd have seen that I pointed out that the term "anchor baby" is a perjorative slur. Babies born in the US are American citizens with all the rights of American citizenship. You can argue about whether birthright citizenship is good or bad - that's another argument. But insulting babies who are completely innocent of any wrong doing is just not "pro-lifey".
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They aren’t seeking asylum or they’d stay in Mexico. It’s been offered but no thanks, they want American handouts. I’m fine with no one allowed in period. By whatever means it takes. If trump allows them in,he’ll have more than the left hating his guts. He’ll have Americans hating his guts. He knows this. You really have no idea what you're talking about. Just like DT, instead of taking the time to learn about the subject, you just spout ignorant comments. You refuse to see past the nose on your face. Education can be your friend if you let it. Just like most of DT's fan club.
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