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Post by zibazinski on Nov 3, 2018 9:41:51 GMT -5
Legal entry. I see. So if they’re turned away they’ll just go home, right? Who seriously believes that? Who cares for them while they’re seeing asylum? We do, that’s who. If they just happen to have a baby on American soil? They hit the asylum jackpot, don’t they? I sure can see why some people want them here while others don’t.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 3, 2018 9:48:09 GMT -5
Someone I don't know triyng to push their way into my house saying they are hungry and need a place to stay , threatens me with violence by throwing rocks at me...yup out comes the shotgun Maybe this weekend, President Trump can rally his base with a new idea.....when you are born, you get a gun! Kinda like a social security number. How about that? And if someone looks at you wrong, shoot 'em! #MAGA Earlier. Much earlier.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 3, 2018 10:10:34 GMT -5
<snip> Or is it mostly because the parents are typically Latinos ? <snip> Actually, most anchor babies are Asian. linkIs it really necessary to use a loaded racist slur to make a point?
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 3, 2018 10:14:25 GMT -5
"the very idea that any woman can come into this country to “drop and leave” American citizens is hardly realistic. First off, “having a baby to secure citizenship for its parents is an extremely long-term, and uncertain, process,” Politifact pointed out in a 2010 article. Citizen children cannot sponsor parents until they turn 21 and bearing U.S. citizen children does not guarantee that families will not be visited by immigration authorities. And finally, as the Washington Post so boldly emphasizes, using a child to secure one’s own citizenship is not only a tedious and time-consuming plan, but one that often produces no immediate outcomes, guarantees, or results. Something to think about." genprogress.org/voices/2015/09/17/39715/the-history-and-stereotypes-behind-the-term-anchor-babies/
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Post by buystoys on Nov 3, 2018 10:31:33 GMT -5
Actually, most anchor babies are Asian. linkIs it really necessary to use a loaded racist slur to make a point? Not certain how using the same term as in the title of the article is harmful. I did forget the quotes which is my bad.
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Post by dezii on Nov 3, 2018 10:51:27 GMT -5
Yep, because if its one things democrats have always needed is cheap, slave labor. Once southern democrats, always southern democrats I'm interested to know what you call people who hire illegals for cheap labor, then laugh about it and say it is the governments problem. Once a conservative, always a conservative. I don't know how to answer u...I never said that….not even close. It was another poster here and I suggest go after him... I actually asked him a seriouse question about his reasoning to hire illegals and he blew me off with a half ass reply..Knowing the source it was "me bad..." should have known better.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 3, 2018 11:04:49 GMT -5
Is it really necessary to use a loaded racist slur to make a point? Not certain how using the same term as in the title of the article is harmful. I did forget the quotes which is my bad. Is "Asian" a loaded racial slur now? I want to keep up so I'm not that old lady who doesn't understand why we can't call little black girls pickaninnies, or whatever.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 3, 2018 11:06:47 GMT -5
Not certain how using the same term as in the title of the article is harmful. I did forget the quotes which is my bad. Is "Asian" a loaded racial slur now? I want to keep up so I'm not that old lady who doesn't understand why we can't call little black girls pickaninnies, or whatever. It was the term 'anchor baby' which was deemed racist.
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Post by buystoys on Nov 3, 2018 11:08:28 GMT -5
Is "Asian" a loaded racial slur now? I want to keep up so I'm not that old lady who doesn't understand why we can't call little black girls pickaninnies, or whatever. It was the term 'anchor baby' which was deemed racist. Funny that other people used the term before I did and weren't called out on it, isn't it?
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 3, 2018 11:16:02 GMT -5
It was the term 'anchor baby' which was deemed racist. Funny that other people used the term before I did and weren't called out on it, isn't it? You cleared it up by stating you forgot to use quotes on the term. Then the confusion ensued. It's clear now, at least to me, what you meant.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 3, 2018 11:19:04 GMT -5
It was the term 'anchor baby' which was deemed racist. Funny that other people used the term before I did and weren't called out on it, isn't it? I wasn’t pickng on you personally. I call out that term wherever I see it.
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Post by tbop77 on Nov 3, 2018 11:37:15 GMT -5
I'm interested to know what you call people who hire illegals for cheap labor, then laugh about it and say it is the governments problem. Once a conservative, always a conservative. I don't know how to answer u...I never said that….not even close. It was another poster here and I suggest go after him... I actually asked him a seriouse question about his reasoning to hire illegals and he blew me off with a half ass reply..Knowing the source it was "me bad..." should have known better. No Dezil, I was referring to you!
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 3, 2018 12:38:52 GMT -5
These poor people! Send some up my way, I have 2 spare rooms and would love to help them apply for asylum, so them and their children can have a chance at a better life!
These are not people that are going to milk the system. They are desperate! If given the chance, they will work harder than most of the citizens in this country, who are so spoiled they have no clue what real hard work is! I would love for you to support them in your extra bedrooms for the next two decades totally at your expense. Fact is out of the thousands, we are talking possibly 100's who qualify for asylum. Why should we pick up the monetary tab trying to find them, and then pay transportation costs to send them back? I believe dj, promised to house a couple of Muslim refugees a couple of years ago. It never happened.
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 3, 2018 12:42:03 GMT -5
For everyone who insists to call them immigrants, stop it! They are illegal immigrants. For everyone calling them refugees, stop it. 99% are economic wantabes and nothing else. Our Constitution does not say we have to accept them because they want to make money here. Let them go home and demand a fair wage in their own country. Maybe you too, can back them in the $15 per hour wage chants there!
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Post by Great on Nov 3, 2018 12:51:17 GMT -5
These poor people! Send some up my way, I have 2 spare rooms and would love to help them apply for asylum, so them and their children can have a chance at a better life!
These are not people that are going to milk the system. They are desperate! If given the chance, they will work harder than most of the citizens in this country, who are so spoiled they have no clue what real hard work is! Here's one that is looking for help, I'm thinking you are a dream come true for him. It appears he's going to need money for an attorney, but sure with all the sympathy you posses you'll be delighted to extend a helping hand and your bank account, or maybe just a place to stay while he really works really, really hard. His story...
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 3, 2018 12:51:59 GMT -5
For everyone who insists to call them immigrants, stop it! They are illegal immigrants. For everyone calling them refugees, stop it. 99% are economic wantabes and nothing else. Our Constitution does not say we have to accept them because they want to make money here. Let them go home and demand a fair wage in their own country. Maybe you too, can back them in the $15 per hour wage chants there! They have done nothing illegal at this time to be called "illegal immigrants". And if and when they cross tour border requesting asylum, they still will not be "illegal immigrants".
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Post by mroped on Nov 3, 2018 13:04:53 GMT -5
For everyone who insists to call them immigrants, stop it! They are illegal immigrants. For everyone calling them refugees, stop it. 99% are economic wantabes and nothing else. Our Constitution does not say we have to accept them because they want to make money here. Let them go home and demand a fair wage in their own country. Maybe you too, can back them in the $15 per hour wage chants there! I’m pretty sure that they would gladly go home if they’d have a home to go to anymore. And that it might be to some extent the result of our meddling in their country’s business. And let’s say that some are here for economical reasons. How would that affect you? Or any of us for that matter? I know that I could use a couple guys that are not afraid to work and have some common sense.What I’ve been getting lately from the local supply is worth nothing. Can’t even follow directions properly and all they care about is social media and how they look on selfies. Do you think it is right that seasonal workers are brought in through leagal chanels are treated like American workers or at least like human beings? Maybe if they are allowed to come this way they stand a better chance. Did you or any of yours decided lately to do any of the farm labor? Or do you know anybody that does that without gripping all the time especially about the law pay? Im willing to take odds that if allowed in these people will have a much, much lower rate of welfare or government aid recipients than any segment or overall American born and raised so in all honesty I can see just good things coming out of it! Thatbeing said, follow legal procedure and from those allowed in I’ll take a couple or a family with kids. I’ll figure a way out to help them and keep them off that welfare system.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 3, 2018 13:28:28 GMT -5
... 99% are economic wantabes and nothing else. ... Here is a realistic picture of the caravan in Mexico. Again I find nothing in your realistic picture to support your claim. Not sure why you linked to an article that gives a small snapshot of a couple of people in the caravan and then make statements about the whole.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 3, 2018 13:36:31 GMT -5
For everyone who insists to call them immigrants, stop it! They are illegal immigrants. For everyone calling them refugees, stop it. 99% are economic wantabes and nothing else. Our Constitution does not say we have to accept them because they want to make money here. Let them go home and demand a fair wage in their own country. Maybe you too, can back them in the $15 per hour wage chants there! They aren’t “illegal” because they’ve done nothing illegal. They are no different from my ancestor who came here from Ireland to seek a better life. Or my Scottish ancestor who came here because the British wanted to h@ng him. They are refugees, seeking to come here legally. Refugees, refugees, refugees.. And I won’t stop calling them that just because you tell me too.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 3, 2018 15:04:35 GMT -5
Is "Asian" a loaded racial slur now? I want to keep up so I'm not that old lady who doesn't understand why we can't call little black girls pickaninnies, or whatever. It was the term 'anchor baby' which was deemed racist. Which race does it reference?
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 3, 2018 15:08:22 GMT -5
They aren't "illegal" unless they are in our country illegal. Right now, none of them are even in our country. They are immigrating, which means they are immigrants. They might become refugees, illegal immigrants, or never enter our country at all.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 3, 2018 16:05:05 GMT -5
Is "Asian" a loaded racial slur now? I want to keep up so I'm not that old lady who doesn't understand why we can't call little black girls pickaninnies, or whatever. It was the term 'anchor baby' which was deemed racist. How is that racist?
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 3, 2018 17:00:06 GMT -5
It was the term 'anchor baby' which was deemed racist. How is that racist? Some find the term insulting. I never said it was racist. I explained to a poster who thought the word Asian was a racist term. Go nag someone else.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 3, 2018 17:07:40 GMT -5
It was the term 'anchor baby' which was deemed racist. Which race does it reference? Does not specifically reference any race. But the term is considered to be by some to be pejorative. Anchor baby
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 3, 2018 17:40:24 GMT -5
For everyone who insists to call them immigrants, stop it! They are illegal immigrants. For everyone calling them refugees, stop it. 99% are economic wantabes and nothing else. Our Constitution does not say we have to accept them because they want to make money here. Let them go home and demand a fair wage in their own country. Maybe you too, can back them in the $15 per hour wage chants there! They have done nothing illegal at this time to be called "illegal immigrants". And if and when they cross tour border requesting asylum, they still will not be "illegal immigrants". You are sort of correct. They violated Mexico's border entry when they tore the gates down and rushed through. Some might say, they became an angry uncontrollable illegal mob at that point in time. Once they cross the border at anything other than a legal check point on our border before going through proceedings, they are simply illegal aliens.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 3, 2018 17:58:13 GMT -5
They have done nothing illegal at this time to be called "illegal immigrants". And if and when they cross tour border requesting asylum, they still will not be "illegal immigrants". You are sort of correct. They violated Mexico's border entry when they tore the gates down and rushed through. Some might say, they became an angry uncontrollable illegal mob at that point in time. Once they cross the border at anything other than a legal check point on our border before going through proceedings, they are simply illegal aliens. That is Mexico's problem. Not ours. In our country, at this time, they are not illegal immigrants.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 3, 2018 17:58:59 GMT -5
They have done nothing illegal at this time to be called "illegal immigrants". And if and when they cross tour border requesting asylum, they still will not be "illegal immigrants". You are sort of correct. They violated Mexico's border entry when they tore the gates down and rushed through. Some might say, they became an angry uncontrollable illegal mob at that point in time. Once they cross the border at anything other than a legal check point on our border before going through proceedings, they are simply illegal aliens.Dog whistle.
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 3, 2018 18:03:10 GMT -5
You are sort of correct. They violated Mexico's border entry when they tore the gates down and rushed through. Some might say, they became an angry uncontrollable illegal mob at that point in time. Once they cross the border at anything other than a legal check point on our border before going through proceedings, they are simply illegal aliens. That is Mexico's problem. Not ours. In our country, at this time, they are not illegal immigrants. Go ahead and blame the Mexicans. Does not change the fact it becomes our problem at the border. Mexico does not stop the mob because their citizens along the path make money off them via food and water purchases, and taxi services on many of the vehicles. It actually helps their broken economy. If Mexican authorities wanted to stop the caravan they simply pull all the drivers over, tell them to either turn around or they will disable the vehicle by puncturing the tires or radiator. I imagine some authorities are bribed to look the other way.
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 3, 2018 18:06:01 GMT -5
You are sort of correct. They violated Mexico's border entry when they tore the gates down and rushed through. Some might say, they became an angry uncontrollable illegal mob at that point in time. Once they cross the border at anything other than a legal check point on our border before going through proceedings, they are simply illegal aliens.Dog whistle. NOPE. Illegal immigrant is the actual dog whistle for the democratic followers. They are alien people from another country in this country illegally.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 3, 2018 18:24:47 GMT -5
That is Mexico's problem. Not ours. In our country, at this time, they are not illegal immigrants. Go ahead and blame the Mexicans. Does not change the fact it becomes our problem at the border. Mexico does not stop the mob because their citizens along the path make money off them via food and water purchases, and taxi services on many of the vehicles. It actually helps their broken economy. If Mexican authorities wanted to stop the caravan they simply pull all the drivers over, tell them to either turn around or they will disable the vehicle by puncturing the tires or radiator. I imagine some authorities are bribed to look the other way. Migrant caravan presses on toward the U.S. by foot, denied buses by Mexico www.cbc.ca/news/world/migrant-caravan-denied-buses-1.4887023
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