Attention Hillary backers: this one is for you!

[djAdvocate]

Jan 4, 2017 12:53:10 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Jan 4, 2017 12:28:35 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

who wouldn't?  who would not REJOICE in the prospect of spending time with your family, with your beloved friends, or traveling once a year?

American's attitudes toward work are kind of bizarre, imo.  but it works out great for me, as a business guy, to have workers that think it is normal to work 50 weeks a year.

No one is stopping you from doing this.

of course not.  i am a business owner.  i am as free as a bird.  i can take 50 weeks a year off, and nobody can do shit about it.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 4, 2017 12:54:57 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

I have to admit that you bastards are turning me liberal...I looked at the annual leave by country and am floored that shit hole places have mandatory leave and we don't. Granted, I didn't spend a ton of time researching (I AM at work!lol) so I don't know the percentage of people who get vacations not, how much of the "not getting any" are people who only work part time, etc.

I'm torn because I am a firm believer in "if you dont' get the benefits that you like at work, change where you work"...but maybe as a country we need to stop being workaholics!

y'think? 

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Another thing with reviewing resumes from Europe, it is common for people to have a few spots where they willfully took off several months or even a year to travel, some even put it on the resume.

I've had to adjust my thinking looking at these, in the USA a break like that is a red flag that is expected to be answered for in an interview and over there it is common.

I'm jealous actually.

[dondub]

Looks like your comprehension is lacking then. I answered the question you asked, as fully as needed for an internet chat board.

Do you have any relevant questions for me now... or are you going to continue to try and insult my intelligence and integrity?
 

  I think Ms. T nailed it. The answers just didn't satisfy me. Here are the questions again. Would any of these women not vote Demo if Hillary hadn't been the candidate? Did any Repos/conservatives

vote for her because she was a woman? I posit that demo women voted for Hillary because she was the D candidate. I doubt any R women voted for Hillary because she was a woman. I already conceded that primary voters might be different.

 And Richard...I was in no way attempting to assist you in insulting your intelligence or integrity. I am interested in just who these women are and why they voted the way they did as pertains my questions above.

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Jan 4, 2017 16:16:07 GMT -5 dondub said:

Looks like your comprehension is lacking then. I answered the question you asked, as fully as needed for an internet chat board.

Do you have any relevant questions for me now... or are you going to continue to try and insult my intelligence and integrity?
 

  I think Ms. T nailed it. The answers just didn't satisfy me. Here are the questions again. Would any of these women not vote Demo if Hillary hadn't been the candidate? Did any Repos/conservatives

vote for her because she was a woman? I posit that demo women voted for Hillary because she was the D candidate. I doubt any R women voted for Hillary because she was a woman. I already conceded that primary voters might be different.

And here is the answer again: I know that they voted for Hillary "because, vagina" they ADMITTED it saying "I voted for Hillary because we need a female president!" or similar verbiage.

[dezailoooooo]

Jan 4, 2017 12:55:35 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 4, 2017 12:53:10 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

No one is stopping you from doing this.

of course not.  i am a business owner.  i am as free as a bird.  i can take 50 weeks a year off, and nobody can do shit about it.

true...also help u hold  the door open as as uall  leave the companys premises  u owned but lost as it was closed because the owner wasn't there to direct, guide, encourage make good decisions till competitors just ate u up...

[dondub]

Richard,

The 2 keys questions remain unanswered just like before. I know you made a wisecrack about my reading comprehension as you like to get personal, but seriously now.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 4, 2017 22:23:25 GMT -5 dezailoooooo said:

Jan 4, 2017 12:55:35 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

of course not.  i am a business owner.  i am as free as a bird.  i can take 50 weeks a year off, and nobody can do shit about it.

true...also help u hold  the door open as as uall  leave the companys premises  u owned but lost as it was closed because the owner wasn't there to direct, guide, encourage make good decisions till competitors just ate u up...

if i did my job right, i hired people that are perfectly capable of running the place in my absence.  if not, then i deserve the ruin that awaits me and my business.

[OldCoyote]

Jan 4, 2017 23:30:51 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 4, 2017 22:23:25 GMT -5 dezailoooooo said:

true...also help u hold  the door open as as uall  leave the companys premises  u owned but lost as it was closed because the owner wasn't there to direct, guide, encourage make good decisions till competitors just ate u up...

if i did my job right, i hired people that are perfectly capable of running the place in my absence.  if not, then i deserve the ruin that awaits me and my business.

If they are that good,  DJ why wouldn't they consider starting their own Co. if you are not there??

That is one of the problems in my business, when you have highly trained some one they start their own Co.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 5, 2017 0:42:58 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Jan 4, 2017 23:30:51 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

if i did my job right, i hired people that are perfectly capable of running the place in my absence.  if not, then i deserve the ruin that awaits me and my business.

If they are that good,  DJ why wouldn't they consider starting their own Co. if you are not there??

That is one of the problems in my business, when you have highly trained some one they start their own Co.

because they signed strict non-competitive and confidentiality agreements when they came to work for me.  my lawyers would be so far up their asses that the most skilled proctologist in the nation could not remove them.  they would be most unwise to even CONSIDER that idea.

[djAdvocate]

NOTE: fortunately for them, i am a highly ethical person, and a hard working one, as well, so i won't become an absentee owner unless they WANT that.

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Jan 4, 2017 22:54:48 GMT -5 dondub said:

Richard,

The 2 keys questions remain unanswered just like before. I know you made a wisecrack about my reading comprehension as you like to get personal, but seriously now.

The "key questions" were covered in my answer. If you can't comprehend that after it's been pointed out... well... 

[dezailoooooo]

Jan 5, 2017 1:42:12 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 5, 2017 0:42:58 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

If they are that good,  DJ why wouldn't they consider starting their own Co. if you are not there??

That is one of the problems in my business, when you have highly trained some one they start their own Co.

because they signed strict non-competitive and confidentiality agreements when they came to work for me.  my lawyers would be so far up their asses that the most skilled proctologist in the nation could not remove them.  they would be most unwise to even CONSIDER that idea.

This is one of the silliest nonsensecal discussion heard here in a long time..so much patting on back as to how successful some are and smart busness wise , like any one cares..also wondering how much truth there is to all of this...how about considering use PM so the rest of us can just moseyby....just thinking...

My post about possible losing business if owner absent really just a tongue in cheek thing..not a seriouse to be considered post.no way would u or any employer just leave for 50 weeks out of the year...also silly statement

[OldCoyote]

Jan 5, 2017 1:42:12 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 5, 2017 0:42:58 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

If they are that good,  DJ why wouldn't they consider starting their own Co. if you are not there??

That is one of the problems in my business, when you have highly trained some one they start their own Co.

because they signed strict non-competitive and confidentiality agreements when they came to work for me.  my lawyers would be so far up their asses that the most skilled proctologist in the nation could not remove them.  they would be most unwise to even CONSIDER that idea.

Ahhh, yes employee rights, Did you include the part about If the employee has an idea,

not even related to your work, developed on their own time, you own that Idea or process??

[djAdvocate]

Jan 5, 2017 7:39:09 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Jan 5, 2017 1:42:12 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

because they signed strict non-competitive and confidentiality agreements when they came to work for me.  my lawyers would be so far up their asses that the most skilled proctologist in the nation could not remove them.  they would be most unwise to even CONSIDER that idea.

Ahhh, yes employee rights, Did you include the part about If the employee has an idea,

not even related to your work, developed on their own time, you own that Idea or process??

the business in question is second generation, and has a TON of proprietary knowledge in it.  it would be ENTERTAINING to watch someone try to duplicate it.

[dondub]

The "key questions" were covered in my answer. If you can't comprehend that after it's been pointed out... well... 
 

The fact remains that you truthfully did not.

[Deleted]

Jan 5, 2017 13:48:06 GMT -5 dondub said:

The "key questions" were covered in my answer. If you can't comprehend that after it's been pointed out... well... 
 

The fact remains that you truthfully did not.

The fact remains that I truthfully did: 

I answered the question you asked, as fully as needed for an internet chat board.

I can't help it that you are asking for more than is necessary to understand the complete answer to your question.

ETA: The "key questions" were (I'm paraphrasing here): "did she get votes because she was a woman?" and "was that the only reason?"... which was answered by: 

I know that they voted for Hillary "because, vagina" they ADMITTED it saying "I voted for Hillary because we need a female president!" or similar verbiage.

[dondub]

No, here are the key questions. No paraphrasing required:

 Here are the questions again. 1. Would any of these women not vote Demo if Hillary hadn't been the candidate? 2. Did any Repos/conservatives vote for her

because she was a woman? I posit that demo women voted for Hillary because she was the D candidate. I doubt any R women voted for Hillary because she

was a woman.

[weltschmerz]

Jan 6, 2017 16:42:52 GMT -5 dondub said:

No, here are the key questions. No paraphrasing required:

 Here are the questions again. 1. Would any of these women not vote Demo if Hillary hadn't been the candidate? 2. Did any Repos/conservatives vote for her

because she was a woman? I posit that demo women voted for Hillary because she was the D candidate. I doubt any R women voted for Hillary because she was a woman.

Exactly.
If Hillary wasn't the candidate, they would have voted for Bernie.
I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a vagina.

[Deleted]

Jan 6, 2017 16:42:52 GMT -5 dondub said:

No, here are the key questions. No paraphrasing required:

 Here are the questions again. 1. Would any of these women not vote Demo if Hillary hadn't been the candidate? 2. Did any Repos/conservatives vote for her

because she was a woman? I posit that demo women voted for Hillary because she was the D candidate. I doubt any R women voted for Hillary because she

was a woman.

Those weren't key to the issue of "did she get votes because she is a woman".

Those are key in "general dislike of her as a candidate"

To answer those, I'd need to be in the heads of the people who's votes I know, and I'm not privy to everything they haven't said in my presence. So... no real way to answer them 100% for everyone.

Now... that said... of the ones that I do know... a few were Democrats and a few were Republicans.

I can infer that the Republicans that voted for her "because, vagina", would LIKELY NOT have voted Democrat specifically if NOT for the "she's a woman" thing, because they are all anti-Obamacare, anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage", pro-"bring God back into everything"... kind of Republicans

The ones who are Democrat... NO telling. That would depend on the Democrat running, most likely... IF their sacred cow of "born with a vagina - Hillary" hadn't been nominated (yes, they voted for her in the Primaries too). However, I can't say, because they never said.

[dondub]

That wasn't so difficult afterall was it Richard.

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Jan 7, 2017 13:15:57 GMT -5 dondub said:

That wasn't so difficult afterall was it Richard.

Never said it was.

We were talking about one thing and you wanted answers about something else. I was trying to keep the focus on the subject at hand without delving into irrelevancies.

[dondub]

  Not really about something else at all, just a furtherance of my attempt at understanding  why someone would do that. But you being you go ahead and spin that however you want.

Of course I didn't believe your final answers were anything but made up anyway.

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Jan 7, 2017 23:52:49 GMT -5 dondub said:

  Not really about something else at all, just a furtherance of my attempt at understanding  why someone would do that. But you being you go ahead and spin that however you want.

Of course I didn't believe your final answers were anything but made up anyway.

Of course you didn't We all know that truth is hard for you to believe.

[zibazinski]

Jan 5, 2017 1:42:12 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 5, 2017 0:42:58 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

If they are that good,  DJ why wouldn't they consider starting their own Co. if you are not there??

That is one of the problems in my business, when you have highly trained some one they start their own Co.

because they signed strict non-competitive and confidentiality agreements when they came to work for me.  my lawyers would be so far up their asses that the most skilled proctologist in the nation could not remove them.  they would be most unwise to even CONSIDER that idea.

Wait a minute, you freely admit to being a lib but don't want to give your employees months off at a time with pay and a guarantee that their job will be waiting for them and at the same time, you've made them sign a non compete that only an evil republican like trump would do as well as threaten to sue them but you're for all sorts of socialist policies as long as it doesn't affect you? I'm confused. You think it's great that Europe does this but you won't do it. I freely admit to the don't work don't eat philosophy but you are always on the give away for free side while taxing those that work, yet you run your business like a businessman not a philanthropist. How do you resolve this ?

[dondub]

Of course you didn't We all know that truth is hard for you to believe.
 

Whatever you say....such as Solyndra was a govt. program.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 8, 2017 8:31:47 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Jan 5, 2017 1:42:12 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

because they signed strict non-competitive and confidentiality agreements when they came to work for me.  my lawyers would be so far up their asses that the most skilled proctologist in the nation could not remove them.  they would be most unwise to even CONSIDER that idea.

Wait a minute, you freely admit to being a lib but don't want to give your employees months off at a time with pay and a guarantee that their job will be waiting for them and at the same time? I'm confused.

let me help you then: i never stated what my vacation policies were. 

[djAdvocate]

Jan 8, 2017 8:31:47 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Jan 5, 2017 1:42:12 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

because they signed strict non-competitive and confidentiality agreements when they came to work for me.  my lawyers would be so far up their asses that the most skilled proctologist in the nation could not remove them.  they would be most unwise to even CONSIDER that idea.

I freely admit to the don't work don't eat philosophy but you are always on the give away for free side while taxing those that work, yet you run your business like a businessman not a philanthropist. How do you resolve this ?

it is called fiduciary responsibility.  it is not a foreign concept to liberals.

[zibazinski]

Uh huh.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 8, 2017 20:09:33 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Uh huh.

yep.  i am way more fiscally conservative than President Trump.  WAY more.  he is a whackadoodle liberal by comparison.