billisonboard
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Post by billisonboard on May 30, 2016 10:26:38 GMT -5
If having transgender students use the bathrooms of their choice is no big deal, then why not just make all bathrooms gender neutral? If there's no issue, then WTF wouldn't people go for that? I think that is a horrible idea for certain age groups. It would end up with teachers having to monitor the bathrooms. The first time you had a sexual assault in a bathroom stall or not even a sexual assault, but just consensual sex at school, people would go nuts. Kids of a certain age need to be monitored if they cannot be trusted and you cannot trust every kid at a middle or jr high school. You mean go nuts like they do now when it happens?
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midjd
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Post by midjd on May 30, 2016 20:42:03 GMT -5
Considering teens are beaten up or sometimes even killed in their school bathrooms, maybe the bathrooms should already be monitored...
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weltschmerz
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Post by weltschmerz on May 30, 2016 20:55:31 GMT -5
kids up here don't understand all the brouhaha and drama. The students say it's no big deal.
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Post by milee on May 30, 2016 21:11:22 GMT -5
If having transgender students use the bathrooms of their choice is no big deal, then why not just make all bathrooms gender neutral? If there's no issue, then WTF wouldn't people go for that? I think that is a horrible idea for certain age groups. It would end up with teachers having to monitor the bathrooms. The first time you had a sexual assault in a bathroom stall or not even a sexual assault, but just consensual sex at school, people would go nuts. Kids of a certain age need to be monitored if they cannot be trusted and you cannot trust every kid at a middle or jr high school. I'm honestly puzzled by the idea that somehow the current bathroom situation is immune to or somehow protective from these situations. Why do you think sexual assault and/or consensual sex doesn't happen in school bathrooms under the current arrangement? Both sexual assault and consensual sex happens in gender specific bathrooms in schools right now. Strangely enough, the same people who don't care to respect basic human dignity when they choose to assault another person are not deterred by a small sign that tells them that the bathroom is for the other gender. Similarly, people seeking consensual sex at school are not all that concerned with anything other than finding a private corner or a door that locks.
I just don't see that unisex bathrooms will increase the likelihood of either sexual assault or consensual sex in bathrooms.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 22:51:57 GMT -5
As would I. Segregated restrooms are basically stupid at this point in our societal AND architectural development.
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Wisconsin Beth
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on May 31, 2016 10:21:32 GMT -5
Oh,I was in Target this weekend. All three bathrooms still had their signs: male, female and family.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2016 10:24:14 GMT -5
I don't think they are changing the signs? ... I just thought they said feel free to use whichever you want...
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on May 31, 2016 10:29:36 GMT -5
I don't think they are changing the signs? ... I just thought they said feel free to use whichever you want... That was my original impression and then people keep telling me the signs are going to change. So I dunno anymore.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on May 31, 2016 10:31:36 GMT -5
I don't think they are changing the signs? ... I just thought they said feel free to use whichever you want... That was my original impression and then people keep telling me the signs are going to change. So I dunno anymore. I read they were changing all of the bathroom signs in their store to: "Sometimes you feel like you have nuts" and "Sometimes you don't"
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 31, 2016 10:52:20 GMT -5
I don't remember sex happening in the bathrooms at high school Now in the fly system of the auditorium that was another story. .. there was a bed up there.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 31, 2016 11:54:57 GMT -5
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 1, 2016 23:26:38 GMT -5
Bigotry and hypocrisy seem to go hand-in-hand. Just consider all the stories of anti-LGBT lawmakers caught with male prostitutes or outted after sending naked pictures to men. However, all of that pales in comparison to this recent story. Esten Ciboro was recently in the news for protesting Target’s new policy of allowing transgender people to use the restroom of their choice. Now it turns out that he has been arrested for keeping a 13-year-old girl chained inside his basement. The girl, who has not been identified, was forced to use the restroom in a bucket and was fed scraps of spoiled food. bipartisanreport.com/2016/05/31/anti-trans-bathroom-child-protector-caught-with-13-year-old-chained-in-basement-video/
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Post by Kolt! on Jun 2, 2016 10:01:02 GMT -5
Bigotry and hypocrisy seem to go hand-in-hand. Just consider all the stories of anti-LGBT lawmakers caught with male prostitutes or outted after sending naked pictures to men. However, all of that pales in comparison to this recent story. Esten Ciboro was recently in the news for protesting Target’s new policy of allowing transgender people to use the restroom of their choice. Now it turns out that he has been arrested for keeping a 13-year-old girl chained inside his basement. The girl, who has not been identified, was forced to use the restroom in a bucket and was fed scraps of spoiled food. bipartisanreport.com/2016/05/31/anti-trans-bathroom-child-protector-caught-with-13-year-old-chained-in-basement-video/HOLY WHAT!? What a fricken sicko. These are the things the world should be protesting. Let's lock him up and only feed him scraps of spoiled food and only let him use a bucket to pee...because even Prison will treat him better then he treated that girl. Like seriously some people need to take a long hard look in the mirror before judging someone else. You're scared of a transgender person using the bathroom and what it might open the doors for? LIKE look at the person you're protesting with.. or the people supporting these anti-lgbtq bills because there's a bigger risk that, that person is going to harm your child then your child using the restroom with a transperson. Stuff like this just sickens me. How can someone even do this to someone else? And sadly, this isn't the first time I've heard of some man keeping a child locked in a room... :/ or even a woman locking a child in a room. I know in the news about two years ago around my area a man and woman kept a child locked in a room...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2016 11:23:39 GMT -5
Bigotry and hypocrisy seem to go hand-in-hand. Just consider all the stories of anti-LGBT lawmakers caught with male prostitutes or outted after sending naked pictures to men. However, all of that pales in comparison to this recent story. Esten Ciboro was recently in the news for protesting Target’s new policy of allowing transgender people to use the restroom of their choice. Now it turns out that he has been arrested for keeping a 13-year-old girl chained inside his basement. The girl, who has not been identified, was forced to use the restroom in a bucket and was fed scraps of spoiled food. bipartisanreport.com/2016/05/31/anti-trans-bathroom-child-protector-caught-with-13-year-old-chained-in-basement-video/HOLY WHAT!? What a fricken sicko. These are the things the world should be protesting. Let's lock him up and only feed him scraps of spoiled food and only let him use a bucket to pee...because even Prison will treat him better then he treated that girl. Like seriously some people need to take a long hard look in the mirror before judging someone else. You're scared of a transgender person using the bathroom and what it might open the doors for? LIKE look at the person you're protesting with.. or the people supporting these anti-lgbtq bills because there's a bigger risk that, that person is going to harm your child then your child using the restroom with a transperson. Stuff like this just sickens me. How can someone even do this to someone else? And sadly, this isn't the first time I've heard of some man keeping a child locked in a room... :/ or even a woman locking a child in a room. I know in the news about two years ago around my area a man and woman kept a child locked in a room... I've had this sickening feeling ever since the whole "bathroom fiasco" started that something horrible IS going to happen to some child in a Target bathroom and it's going to be by some sick protestor trying to make a point.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 2, 2016 12:19:17 GMT -5
Before he was apprehended by police, Esten Ciboro, the younger of the pair, spent his time on Facebook warning people of the dangers that transgender people pose to children in Target department store bathrooms. Should I also mention he is a Donald Trump supporter or was that unnecessarily obvious? winningdemocrats.com/guess-why-this-trump-loving-target-hating-christian-anti-trans-activist-was-arrested/"Oh, the children, the children!! Those awful gays will hurt the children!" All this while having a child runaway chained up in his basement. Sick fvck.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jun 2, 2016 13:10:32 GMT -5
but they're not even gay though....
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 2, 2016 13:28:39 GMT -5
Might be unfair of me but sometimes I wonder if the reason why people like the above protest gays and transgenders so much is because they want everyone to focus on the right hand while the left hand does something else.
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