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Post by PauletteG on Oct 19, 2015 12:42:11 GMT -5
i hope that the ugly tactics of Conservatives won't keep Liberals away, but will energize them to vote. Say what? You have the inside scoop? Anonymous threatened to expose his homosexuality, but aside from that, I've heard nothing. Spill! Anon Starts the Baird Info Rumour of Baird in videos from Tel Aviv nightclubAlso, this word from YourAnonNews, though it is merely a vague threat. Baird's homosexuality was known for years. Laureen Harper is known to be living with her girlfriend. I don't think CPC leadership is anti-LGBTQ, but it's a convenient emotion-whip to get anti-LGBTQ voters to vote Blue. I'm looking for a comment from a woman ("Cynthia" something) who said it was widely known that Baird went to Church St. to pick up youth. I swear I saw it a month ago, on the same page as a G&M senior editor presenting his PGP key and a DropBox link for receiving evidence but it may be on the Deep Web. OTOH, Anon announced 15 Oct as a likely reveal date, and nothing of value has surfaced. But there's this Vimeo page.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 12:45:09 GMT -5
there should be a poll here on ym after the election asking posters who won, who were the candidates and if there were an election in Canada.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 19, 2015 12:59:31 GMT -5
i am more interested in who loses than who wins.
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Post by Jaguar on Oct 19, 2015 14:36:08 GMT -5
Okay I done my duty and voted, AND I got three other 80+ years old out and they voted as well. I done double duty and I'm happy.
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Post by PauletteG on Oct 19, 2015 14:43:19 GMT -5
Jaguar Was your polling place busy? Kinda curious what riding or regional area you're in. Excellent work bringing voters with you.
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Post by Jaguar on Oct 19, 2015 14:48:47 GMT -5
Jaguar Was your polling place busy? Kinda curious what riding or regional area you're in. Excellent work bringing voters with you. There were two ridings, cause one of the ladies was at another riding, not mine. Both ridings were quite busy. But all 4 of us got our votes in.
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 19, 2015 14:59:59 GMT -5
i hope that the ugly tactics of Conservatives won't keep Liberals away, but will energize them to vote. Say what? You have the inside scoop? Anonymous threatened to expose his homosexuality, but aside from that, I've heard nothing. Spill! To be fair, Anonymous wasn't after him for homosexuality. They were after him for paedophilia. His purported victims just happened to be underaged Palestinian boys. I've never seen proof of that allegation. Just lots of speculation and mention of a video that nobody's produced yet.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 19, 2015 15:48:08 GMT -5
Jaguar Was your polling place busy? Kinda curious what riding or regional area you're in. Excellent work bringing voters with you. Mine wasn't busy at all...in and out. I was told it's because voting in the advance polls was up by 71%.
Eight parties to choose from, in the longest campaign in modern Canadian history. 78 days, and that includes the debates.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 19, 2015 17:11:53 GMT -5
Jaguar Was your polling place busy? Kinda curious what riding or regional area you're in. Excellent work bringing voters with you. Mine wasn't busy at all...in and out. I was told it's because voting in the advance polls was up by 71%.
Eight parties to choose from, in the longest campaign in modern Canadian history. 78 days, and that includes the debates.
do you have any idea how jealous that statement makes me?
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 19, 2015 17:34:13 GMT -5
Mine wasn't busy at all...in and out. I was told it's because voting in the advance polls was up by 71%.
Eight parties to choose from, in the longest campaign in modern Canadian history. 78 days, and that includes the debates.
do you have any idea how jealous that statement makes me? I think I do. Your campaigning starts the minute after a new POTUS is elected, and it drags on and on and on.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 19, 2015 17:45:49 GMT -5
do you have any idea how jealous that statement makes me? I think I do. Your campaigning starts the minute after a new POTUS is elected, and it drags on and on and on.
what that statement loses in accuracy it gains in sentiment.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 19, 2015 17:57:25 GMT -5
I think I do. Your campaigning starts the minute after a new POTUS is elected, and it drags on and on and on.
what that statement loses in accuracy it gains in sentiment. it loses nothing in accuracy. Your UNOFFICIAL campaigning starts immediately after an election. Then the official drama and droning kicks in..
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 19, 2015 18:03:54 GMT -5
what that statement loses in accuracy it gains in sentiment. it loses nothing in accuracy. Your UNOFFICIAL campaigning starts immediately after an election. Then the official drama and droning kicks in.. i still don't think that is quite accurate. but it feels that way. the unofficial campaigning starts about a year before the official campaigning does, which is barely (if even) halfway through the presidential term. this is, of course, a matter of opinion. you are entitled to yours. i am entitled to mine.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 19, 2015 18:06:59 GMT -5
Yep, it sure does feel that way, dj.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Oct 19, 2015 19:23:24 GMT -5
Ms. Clinton's campaign started in the middle of 2013 when she announced that under no circumstances would she run for the 2016 presidency. Hence roughly 8-9 months after Pres. Obama was sworn in for a second term.
Having said this, campaigns aren't a binary thing. They have a spectrum of intensities. The variable we observe is media saturation. At what point do media references to the election, electability, qualifications, etc. ramp up above "occasional mention". In my estimation, the US crossed the threshold this past summer. On that basis, I'd gauge the "US election season proper" to be 14-15 months long.
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Post by Jaguar on Oct 19, 2015 19:26:07 GMT -5
32 seats in Eastern Canada and it looks like the Liberals will get all 32 seats.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 19, 2015 19:37:27 GMT -5
32 seats in Eastern Canada and it looks like the Liberals will get all 32 seats. Mon Dieu!! So far, the Liberals are handing the other parties their asses on a platter!
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Post by Jaguar on Oct 19, 2015 19:39:43 GMT -5
Yeah Liberals are elected or leading in 31 of the 32 seats, and the last seat is going back and forth between Liberals and Conservatives.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Oct 19, 2015 19:46:18 GMT -5
32 seats in Eastern Canada and it looks like the Liberals will get all 32 seats. That's what you get when you borrow money to buy people cookies. The most damnable thing is how transparent they were about it. "Vote for us. Cookies for everyone, bought on loan." And Canadians don't even care. Have these people not seen Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain? Do they not understand the crippling penalties of indebtedness? Are they still so eager to drink the Milton-Keynes Kool-Aid? (Don't answer that.) I get not voting for P.M. Harper. But why not Mr. Mulcair?
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 19, 2015 19:49:14 GMT -5
i only predicted 26 in the East. they are already up 5-6. that means that my overall projection is now 156-157.
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Post by Jaguar on Oct 19, 2015 19:55:12 GMT -5
In 15 minutes it gets really interesting, that's when the polls close on all of central Canada.
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Post by PauletteG on Oct 19, 2015 19:57:07 GMT -5
Man, I was pretty sure Jack Harris was going to retain his seat. Last week a site projected 99% likelihood of that. This is redder than a giallo film.
I was thinking BC was going to be THE interesting spot. Wonder what Calgary's heartbeat is atm.
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Post by fishy999 on Oct 19, 2015 19:57:46 GMT -5
Could a Canadian chime in on where the 3 large parties lie in relation to our two? Or even- which Canadian parties would our candidates fall into? I know the labels mean different things in different places.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 19, 2015 20:01:45 GMT -5
32 seats in Eastern Canada and it looks like the Liberals will get all 32 seats. That's what you get when you borrow money to buy people cookies. The most damnable thing is how transparent they were about it. "Vote for us. Cookies for everyone, bought on loan." And Canadians don't even care. Have these people not seen Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain? Do they not understand the crippling penalties of indebtedness? Are they still so eager to drink the Milton-Keynes Kool-Aid? (Don't answer that.) I get not voting for P.M. Harper. But why not Mr. Mulcair? Don't like it? Why didn't you vote? If people don't vote, they have no right to complain.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Oct 19, 2015 20:13:57 GMT -5
That's what you get when you borrow money to buy people cookies. The most damnable thing is how transparent they were about it. "Vote for us. Cookies for everyone, bought on loan." And Canadians don't even care. Have these people not seen Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain? Do they not understand the crippling penalties of indebtedness? Are they still so eager to drink the Milton-Keynes Kool-Aid? (Don't answer that.) I get not voting for P.M. Harper. But why not Mr. Mulcair? Don't like it? Why didn't you vote? If people don't vote, they have no right to complain. Sure they do. Not only are there sound moral and practical reasons for not voting, your logic plainly fails when applied to other situations. You would have to forfeit your right to complain if the only three things your workplace cafeteria served were pizza, hamburgers, and hotdogs, and you (being a vegetarian) elected to go hungry. Somehow I don't think that would stop you from complaining.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 19, 2015 20:16:02 GMT -5
Don't like it? Why didn't you vote? If people don't vote, they have no right to complain. Sure they do. Not only are there sound moral and practical reasons for not voting, your logic plainly fails when applied to other situations. You would have to forfeit your right to complain if the only three things your workplace cafeteria served were pizza, hamburgers, and hotdogs, and you (being a vegetarian) elected to go hungry. Somehow I don't think that would stop you from complaining. Instead of complaining, I bring my own lunch to work because I don't eat meat. Next!!
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Post by Jaguar on Oct 19, 2015 20:28:28 GMT -5
Just 2 minutes left, oh boy.
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Post by PauletteG on Oct 19, 2015 20:29:48 GMT -5
The Toronto Blue Jays are having a worse night than the Atlantic Canada Liberals.
18h36m: And here come the Tories.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Oct 19, 2015 20:33:58 GMT -5
Could a Canadian chime in on where the 3 large parties lie in relation to our two? Or even- which Canadian parties would our candidates fall into? I know the labels mean different things in different places. The Conservatives purport to be fiscally conservative but aren't. They've recently begun to support expansion of Canada's involvement in foreign conflicts (read "quagmires"), domestic spying, Bush-era anti-terrorism laws, and the abomination that is the TPP, which is no small part of why voters are abandoning them. The Liberals are the most left-leaning party. They're presently led by the son of a charismatic former Prime Minister that almost single-handedly destroyed the nation's economy in the 1970's and accrued more than 60% of our gross national debt in less than a decade. They're promising to run deficits, legalize marijuana, expand social services, buy everyone cookies, etc. They'd be the closest equivalent to the Democrats. The NDP (New Democratic Party) was traditionally more left-leaning than the Liberals, and wear the millstone of one Bob Rae (now a Liberal), an Ontario Premier more-or-less singularly responsible for the "brain drain" phenomenon of the 1990's. Until a few years ago they were led by Jack Layton, a smiling, glad-handing fellow with a cultic personality. He died. His replacement was Tom Mulcair. I actually don't mind Mulcair too greatly. He's tried to move the NDP a bit closer to the middle by at least paying lip service to a balanced budget. His foreign policy is more sensible than the Liberals' or the Conservatives'. The NDP is traditionally "the" labour party. It gets a lot of support from unions, blue-collar workers, the poor, et al. The Bloc Quebecois is a Quebec nationalist party that represents only the interests of Quebec. It's based on a separatist mandate, but separatism isn't popular in Quebec these days, hence their main role is to ensure Quebec's ability to suck the other provinces dry to fund its lavish social programs remains unimpeded. The Green Party is pretty much what you'd guess. Their mandate is about protecting the environment. Climate change is a big deal to them. They actually enjoy 3-4% support nationally, but since our system works like yours with seats instead of proportional representation, they've never held more than a single seat in Parliament. The only consolation is that public funding for the political parties is proportional to their share of the vote, hence a 4% take of the national vote means the Greens can mount actual campaigns rather than backyard hoedowns.
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Post by Jaguar on Oct 19, 2015 20:39:28 GMT -5
CTV has declared a Liberal win, no clue on minority or majority.
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