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Post by gooddecisions on Jul 24, 2015 19:42:19 GMT -5
WWBG payed his fair share of living expenses with his girlfriend and was bitter that she couldn't budget so had to pay even more towards the extras. Again, different bc they shared living expenses and he still payed for all the extras before they were married.
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Post by Icelandic Woman on Jul 24, 2015 19:59:34 GMT -5
Dog seems to have improved. However, I let him out an hour ago, and his urine is black, which indicates hematuria, aka blood in the urine. Might be internal bleeding, might be an infection. GF is calling her vet. OH NO! fix the poor dog! he's the only innocent one in this ordeal!
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Post by beergut on Jul 27, 2015 21:33:35 GMT -5
Latest update: Dog is doing better, but still not back to normal.
Took him in today for ultrasound to see what they could find out. Ultrasound was another $380. So, over $900 spent on dog so far.
It turns out his spleen is twisted, so blood flow is limited or completely cut off. Basically, his spleen is dying, which is causing him significant pain.
A splenectomy will cost $800, plus the $159 in tests the vet who is doing the surgery did on him today.
I told GF to hug the dog today and tell him it is a good thing she loves him.
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Post by beergut on Jul 27, 2015 21:35:38 GMT -5
WWBG payed his fair share of living expenses with his girlfriend and was bitter that she couldn't budget so had to pay even more towards the extras. Again, different bc they shared living expenses and he still payed for all the extras before they were married. I can't let this go. The word is PAID.
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Jul 27, 2015 22:00:58 GMT -5
Latest update: Dog is doing better, but still not back to normal. Took him in today for ultrasound to see what they could find out. Ultrasound was another $380. So, over $900 spent on dog so far. It turns out his spleen is twisted, so blood flow is limited or completely cut off. Basically, his spleen is dying, which is causing him significant pain. A splenectomy will cost $800, plus the $159 in tests the vet who is doing the surgery did on him today. I told GF to hug the dog today and tell him it is a good thing she loves him. Fix the dog!!! Poor guy! He's my favorite thing in this whole saga. Thanks for updating! Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards
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Post by andi9899 on Jul 27, 2015 22:21:52 GMT -5
I would have put the dog down by now. Hate if you want to. $900 has already been spent on the dog and they are looking at another $1000. Too much to spend on a dog IMO.
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Post by whoami on Jul 27, 2015 22:53:57 GMT -5
I would have put the dog down by now. Hate if you want to. $900 has already been spent on the dog and they are looking at another $1000. Too much to spend on a dog IMO. Ive got a $10K dog at home...worth every penny.
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Jul 28, 2015 8:12:21 GMT -5
I would have put the dog down by now. Hate if you want to. $900 has already been spent on the dog and they are looking at another $1000. Too much to spend on a dog IMO. OMG please, DO NOT EVER own a dog. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards
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Post by Angel! on Jul 28, 2015 8:13:36 GMT -5
I would have put the dog down by now. Hate if you want to. $900 has already been spent on the dog and they are looking at another $1000. Too much to spend on a dog IMO. Dogs are family to some. I would easily spend that much if it would save the dog. I would spend the rest of my life feeling guilty if I put the dog down over 1k.
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Post by CarolinaKat on Jul 28, 2015 8:16:19 GMT -5
Latest update: Dog is doing better, but still not back to normal. Took him in today for ultrasound to see what they could find out. Ultrasound was another $380. So, over $900 spent on dog so far. It turns out his spleen is twisted, so blood flow is limited or completely cut off. Basically, his spleen is dying, which is causing him significant pain. A splenectomy will cost $800, plus the $159 in tests the vet who is doing the surgery did on him today. I told GF to hug the dog today and tell him it is a good thing she loves him. Fix the dog!!! Poor guy! He's my favorite thing in this whole saga. Thanks for updating! Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Jul 28, 2015 8:17:40 GMT -5
I too would have put the dog down. Mine is 11 and luckily just needed routine care so far. My cat is 19.5 years old and has issues but she will go eventually or get to ill and I will have her put down too. I love them both but I'm not making them suffer just to keep me happy. Kitty has a type 3 heart murmur out of 6 and kidney issues but she still eats good and drinks a ton of water, still grooms herself and looks good though very skinny. The vet was talking about subcantaneous injections I'm not going that route. I love her to pieces but no.
We all need to have life and death with dignity. This makes no sense. You would have beer's dog put down because you have old animals? Beer's dog appears to have a medical issue that needs to be fixed. From his post he doesn't have a 15 year old dog who's on death's door which, by having the surgery he is prolonging a very short life. I could be wrong. But I don't sense this is the case. If you have a dog that is fairly young and you are unwilling to get it medical care, you simply should NOT be a dog owner. EVER. That is insanely selfish. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards
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Post by CarolinaKat on Jul 28, 2015 8:24:04 GMT -5
I would have put the dog down by now. Hate if you want to. $900 has already been spent on the dog and they are looking at another $1000. Too much to spend on a dog IMO. Dogs are family to some. I would easily spend that much if it would save the dog. I would spend the rest of my life feeling guilty if I put the dog down over 1k. I dropped ~ 1k on my Pomeranian to remove a tumor that was pinching his intestinal track shut. His kidneys did not come back online after the surgery. I do not regret spending the money to give him another shot. I don't regret it even though he passed. He deserved the best shot at a quality life I could give him. 100% I would make the same decision again, no doubt.
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Post by andi9899 on Jul 28, 2015 8:34:56 GMT -5
I would have put the dog down by now. Hate if you want to. $900 has already been spent on the dog and they are looking at another $1000. Too much to spend on a dog IMO. OMG please, DO NOT EVER own a dog. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards I have owned dogs in the past. Very well taken care of dogs. My favorite dog was my German Shepherd I know you guys have heard me refer to plenty of times. She was the best dog ever. I had her for 13 years. When she got to where her hips were killing her, she couldn't hardly hear anything and had trouble controlling her bowels I had her humanly euthanized. How does not being willing to let her continue to suffer make me an irresponsible or unfit dog owner?
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Post by steph08 on Jul 28, 2015 8:36:33 GMT -5
1 or 2k isn't that much to spend on a dog that is young and has a lot of life left. It seems like this is all he needs and then he will be as good as new.
You (well, your girlfriend) took on the responsibility of the dog, and that means paying for the medical care as well.
One of our boxers was diagnosed with lymphoma at the age of 6. It was a tough decision but we decided not to do chemo. Because chemo in dogs isn't like chemo in people; it won't cure them, it just buys them a little more time. We decided not to pay the 4-5k to do chemo and drag him to the vet every week for a few more months. Instead we did a steroid and chemo pill combo that would keep him comfortable, and it bought him six more happy, healthy months (his lymph nodes shrank, he ran around like his old self, he ate voraciously).
If they had told me that chemo would cure his cancer and give him another five years (or two) of life - I would have paid that money in a second.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jul 28, 2015 8:36:42 GMT -5
$1k is probably not the decision line for me. At some point though you do have to consider costs versus possibility of recovery and quality of life. I think that's just reality. I'm thinking more along the lines of tens of thousands of dollars though.
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Post by andi9899 on Jul 28, 2015 8:39:32 GMT -5
I would have put the dog down by now. Hate if you want to. $900 has already been spent on the dog and they are looking at another $1000. Too much to spend on a dog IMO. Dogs are family to some. I would easily spend that much if it would save the dog. I would spend the rest of my life feeling guilty if I put the dog down over 1k. I'm not as sentimental. To me, dogs have a job. That job is to protect my family and my house. They don't get on the furniture, they don't get the same privileges as the people do. They definitely know where they stand in the pecking order. Does that mean I wasn't very fond of my dogs? No. They were trusted with my most precious people in my life, my family. The German Shepherd watched over my girls like they were her own. She never bit and would dare you to come close to them if she didn't know you. She was a wonderful dog, just not treated the same way as family.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 28, 2015 8:42:24 GMT -5
$1500 was the line in the sand for us with Leonard but he had an inoperable stomach tumor the size of a watermelon. They said they could try but he'd likely die during the process.
So we said no and took him home, he died peacefully in his sleep.
Don't regret the $400+ we spent on him before we found out it was terminal. We're not entirely sure how old he was but the vet guessed he was about 8 years old when he died.
We got two more months with him and he was really happy so it was worth it.
If $1k would solve the problem and the dog would live a long happy life afterwards I am not sure I'd draw the line there, especially if I had the money.
DH obtained Midnight before we got married. If there was an emergency while he was not around I would have taken her to the vet no questions asked. I woudln't have expected him to pay me back either (though it would be nice)
BUT if it's something he could have planned for then I'd expect him to budget for it or at least a portion of it. Your girlfriend is getting enough notice that she should be able to come up with the money. Most vets will do a payment plan or they offer those medical CCs. She could charge it and then make payments to that if need be.
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Jul 28, 2015 8:55:41 GMT -5
OMG please, DO NOT EVER own a dog. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards I have owned dogs in the past. Very well taken care of dogs. My favorite dog was my German Shepherd I know you guys have heard me refer to plenty of times. She was the best dog ever. I had her for 13 years. When she got to where her hips were killing her, she couldn't hardly hear anything and had trouble controlling her bowels I had her humanly euthanized. How does not being willing to let her continue to suffer make me an irresponsible or unfit dog owner? OH please... THIS situation right here is VASTLY different that the comment you made that prompted my comment. You stated that $1900 was simply too much to spend on a dog. I don't see anywhere here that beer states that the dog is in its teens and has health issues and having the surgery would prolong its life even though it would be poor quality. Those are two extremely different situations and you can't NOT know that. if you have a dog that is 2 years old and in prime health, but needs a surgery and you aren't willing to spend $2k on it, then you shouldn't be an animal owner. *THIS* is the situation to which I was commenting on. the situation that actually seems relevant to this thread.
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Post by CarolinaKat on Jul 28, 2015 8:56:56 GMT -5
OMG please, DO NOT EVER own a dog. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards I have owned dogs in the past. Very well taken care of dogs. My favorite dog was my German Shepherd I know you guys have heard me refer to plenty of times. She was the best dog ever. I had her for 13 years. When she got to where her hips were killing her, she couldn't hardly hear anything and had trouble controlling her bowels I had her humanly euthanized. How does not being willing to let her continue to suffer make me an irresponsible or unfit dog owner? This is very different than putting down a young dog who has a fixable medical condition and a good prognosis. Surely you see the difference?
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Jul 28, 2015 8:57:48 GMT -5
I have owned dogs in the past. Very well taken care of dogs. My favorite dog was my German Shepherd I know you guys have heard me refer to plenty of times. She was the best dog ever. I had her for 13 years. When she got to where her hips were killing her, she couldn't hardly hear anything and had trouble controlling her bowels I had her humanly euthanized. How does not being willing to let her continue to suffer make me an irresponsible or unfit dog owner? This is very different than putting down a young dog who has a fixable medical condition and a good prognosis. Surely you see the difference? doggy death panels.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jul 28, 2015 9:00:17 GMT -5
it's her dog, she should be able to afford its care.
I also think it's funny that you shouldn't be picking up the tab for her kids' stuff, yet you should be chipping in no questions asked for her dog.
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Post by Blonde Granny on Jul 28, 2015 9:00:50 GMT -5
Please remember, the dog belongs to the GF, not beer. He's been paying the vet bill since the original problem occurred. Even though beer says GF makes more than he does, he seems to be the one on the hook for things like this.
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Jul 28, 2015 9:03:26 GMT -5
Please remember, the dog belongs to the GF, not beer. He's been paying the vet bill since the original problem occurred. Even though beer says GF makes more than he does, he seems to be the one on the hook for things like this. he doesn't pay rent... he's gotta pay something I vote for money going to the dog!
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Post by andi9899 on Jul 28, 2015 9:03:44 GMT -5
There was never any mention of the dog's age that I saw. Maybe there was one that I missed. Just that he is in significant pain which is intolerable.
I do have to ask the question though, if beer wasn't around to pay for the vet bills, would this dog be fixed? Ole girl can't even pay $500 for a vacation. Would the dog be allowed to suffer or put down?
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Post by andi9899 on Jul 28, 2015 9:04:52 GMT -5
it's her dog, she should be able to afford its care. I also think it's funny that you shouldn't be picking up the tab for her kids' stuff, yet you should be chipping in no questions asked for her dog. This x 1000,000!
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Post by Angel! on Jul 28, 2015 9:44:57 GMT -5
$1500 was the line in the sand for us with Leonard but he had an inoperable stomach tumor the size of a watermelon. They said they could try but he'd likely die during the process. So we said no and took him home, he died peacefully in his sleep. I would guess it was more the fact that it would probably not make a difference that was the line in the sand. If $1500 would have definitely saved him, then you may have easily made a different decision.
I am ~$1K into my husky since January. He has got an autoimmune disease that we are trying to get under control. Hopefully not, but he may be looking at being on meds that cost in the range of $150/month for the rest of his life. I have really been wrestling with that cost because that is a lot for me. But, then the rest of his life probably won't be much longer since he is already 9 & not the healthiest dog.
I just spent $150 on a blood test for my 13 year old because he hasn't been eating well. It all looked good. The vet offered to do ultrasound & x-rays to try to find if there was something internally wrong. I didn't ask the cost, but I declined. I wouldn't put him through surgery at his age, so there is no point doing a bunch of test to identify any problems. I will just keep him as long as he is reasonably active & doesn't appear to be in pain & then it will be time to let go.
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Post by Angel! on Jul 28, 2015 9:53:51 GMT -5
it's her dog, she should be able to afford its care. I also think it's funny that you shouldn't be picking up the tab for her kids' stuff, yet you should be chipping in no questions asked for her dog. What he should do is setup a system where he contributes $X to the household each month to cover his share of rent, utilities, & food. Instead they've got some insane system where he pays for food & extras, but he gets to decide which extras are acceptable & which are not. Vacation to visit his family - ok, install a pool - not ok, kids go to camp - ok.
If they can't come to a system that makes more sense than what they are currently doing, then I think considering the dog's emergency as an extra is ok. If he is willing to send both kids to camp & pay for vacations, then I would sure the heck expect him to be willing to pay for the dog, even if it means no vacations or camp for the next year. If they had set up a less screwy system from the beginning, then the dog would be all on her to cover.
I would also point out that I think she cut up her CCs to appease beer. IMO, this would be a time when I would absolutely be willing to pull out the CC if I didn't have the money & pay it off later.
ETA - Beer, you seriously need to change the system you are using. Because you both have different priorities & budgets, the extras you are willing to cover vs the extras she wants you to cover will never match. There is always going to be problems because of this. She will either be upset you won't pay for X that she really wanted, or your are going to be annoyed that you paid for X & you didn't really want to do so. You guys are setting the relationship up for failure with your current setup.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Jul 28, 2015 11:04:39 GMT -5
LOL. Amazingly, I've been with my partner for 10 years and have managed through his children and children of our own. It CAN happen.
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Post by beergut on Jul 28, 2015 11:06:34 GMT -5
I would have put the dog down by now. Hate if you want to. $900 has already been spent on the dog and they are looking at another $1000. Too much to spend on a dog IMO. Dogs are not investments, and shouldn't be treated as such. If there is a dollar amount threshold that would make you want to put them to sleep, I don't think you should be a dog owner.
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Post by beergut on Jul 28, 2015 11:13:38 GMT -5
My son was a wise young man, he would not date anyone with kids from a previous marriage or kids period, he said he was not taking on the expense and problems belonging to someone else. He saw to much of it in the military. He has been married now 12 years and they just had their first baby.
If I were the woman, I would not let you live there rent free. That part I would take and so much for groceries beyond that I would pay my own way. Actually I would not let a man move in period unless we were married, but I'm old.
I'm much older then MPL because I remember when dad bought me a new car when I started college, it was $3500.
I saw a 24 ft round pool that is 52 inches deep at Sam's today for $399 on sale. It's an above ground with a filter, would work nicely. But I doubt she would accept that. I'd love to see you (or your son) go up to a little kid and say, "Hey, your mother is an amazing woman who has all the qualities I'm looking for in a person I want to spend the rest of my life with but you, you're a problem, so no can do." At one time, I had the attitude that I wasn't going to raise someone else's kids. When I realized I had no desire to have kids of my own (I honestly don't think I have the patience to tolerate the baby years), I loosened up on this requirement. I don't view other people's kids as 'problems' or 'mistakes'. When you are in my position, you hope you can be an influential presence in the lives of the children.
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