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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 11:30:18 GMT -5
This has me curious. Can you elucidate on it more? Was this back in the days of the old MSN money site? It started back on old MSN and carried on to here.
WWBG's wife has champagne tastes and a tap water budget, and looked to WWBG as her sugar daddy. He gave in all the time and racked up some pretty impressive credit card debt. His bitterness shows through.
Damn, not even a beer budget?
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Post by resolution on Jul 22, 2015 11:32:00 GMT -5
This has me curious. Can you elucidate on it more? Was this back in the days of the old MSN money site? It started back on old MSN and carried on to here.
WWBG's wife has champagne tastes and a tap water budget, and looked to WWBG as her sugar daddy. He gave in all the time and racked up some pretty impressive credit card debt. His bitterness shows through.
It has been quite a few years and he still expresses bitterness and resentment toward the lost opportunities caused by her spending and debt. Unfortunately it appears to have colored his views of women in general and he continues to portray us as selfish and petty.
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Post by swamp on Jul 22, 2015 11:33:19 GMT -5
It started back on old MSN and carried on to here.
WWBG's wife has champagne tastes and a tap water budget, and looked to WWBG as her sugar daddy. He gave in all the time and racked up some pretty impressive credit card debt. His bitterness shows through.
It has been quite a few years and he still expresses bitterness and resentment toward the lost opportunities caused by her spending and debt. Unfortunately it appears to have colored his views of women in general and he continues to portray us as selfish and petty. Yes, because every single freakin' woman out there is the same as the other one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 11:34:36 GMT -5
You really need to sit down with her and have that budgeting conversation if you want the situation to improve. You need to start contributing fixed rent and utilities and get away from your contribution being completely variable "fun" items that you decide upon individually.
As long as you have zero rent plus random discretionary purchases, she will continue to ask for more and more discretionary purchases since that is your official contribution to the household. It's starting to look like she depends on him to pay for the big ticket items, period, whether they're discretionary or not. I don't think the vet bill is discretionary, but he's paying. In the other thread, he said he paid to have the house painted. That may have been something that needed to be done, especially if it was the exterior.
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Post by dannylion on Jul 22, 2015 11:40:20 GMT -5
BUT IS THE DOG ALL RIGHT? Dog seems to have improved. However, I let him out an hour ago, and his urine is black, which indicates hematuria, aka blood in the urine. Might be internal bleeding, might be an infection. GF is calling her vet. Oh, no!
Sending good thoughts for the poor doggy.
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Post by Blonde Granny on Jul 22, 2015 11:51:14 GMT -5
Does the 17 year old have a job? The insurance must be horrendous plus now an at fault accident complete with a ticket. So higher rates. Lovely. She works as a lifeguard during the summer. She works a lot of hours, but it is minimum wage. I think forcing her to pay the increase in insurance is a good idea, but we'll see what GF thinks. I destroyed two cars when I was 18-19, and my parents were patient with me. GF apparently had an interesting history with cars, too. I want 17 yr old to understand what happened can't be repeated, but I am not going to punish her for having an accident. I can't come down too hard on her, because it would be hypocritical to treat her in a harsher manner than what I grew up with. That said, after my second car died, I went three years through college with no car. If she tears up a second car, she's going to re-discover the joys of walking everywhere. You certainly have a lot of "I" demands in this post of yours. I've mentioned before there is no "I" when it comes to this family. You're the live in boyfriend, and the daughter is neither yours nor your step daughter. The minute you started correcting and punishing my kid is the day your a** is thrown out the door.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 22, 2015 12:07:48 GMT -5
Bio dad pays child support which is providing a roof over your head, too.
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Post by beergut on Jul 22, 2015 12:08:53 GMT -5
It started back on old MSN and carried on to here.
WWBG's wife has champagne tastes and a tap water budget, and looked to WWBG as her sugar daddy. He gave in all the time and racked up some pretty impressive credit card debt. His bitterness shows through.
It has been quite a few years and he still expresses bitterness and resentment toward the lost opportunities caused by her spending and debt. Unfortunately it appears to have colored his views of women in general and he continues to portray us as selfish and petty. So is he still married or did he divorce her?
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Post by CarolinaKat on Jul 22, 2015 12:08:43 GMT -5
How much is a 1995 Mustang convertible worth in 2015? Its a twenty year old car. Depending on what 1995 Mustang it is exactly, mileage, condition, it might not be worth even $3K to a private buyer or it could be worth $20K or so if it was something cool.
(Convertibles are bad choices as first cars for most first time drivers because in a rollover accident it could be their head literally. Optimist public service announcement. )
The engine only had 49k miles on it. Only one previous owner, an elderly woman who kept it garaged most of the time. If insurance offers anything for the car, it would be for the value of the parts. I've been told that because this particular Mustang is 20 years old, it is considered a classic, but no idea if that is true. GF bought it for $6k, so optimistically hoping they'll be offered $3-$4k for it. I've already had an offer to buy it from a friend who is a big fan of Mustangs. Depending on the type of insurance and type and rarity of the car, it generally starts being a classic between 20 and 30 years
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Post by CarolinaKat on Jul 22, 2015 12:12:08 GMT -5
It has been quite a few years and he still expresses bitterness and resentment toward the lost opportunities caused by her spending and debt. Unfortunately it appears to have colored his views of women in general and he continues to portray us as selfish and petty. So is he still married or did he divorce her? Still together.... I remember the conversation where everyone was trying to get hij to her.... turns out it was the day before the wedding.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jul 22, 2015 12:15:21 GMT -5
you sound just like WWBG a few years ago...before his marriage....it hasn't gotten any better This has me curious. Can you elucidate on it more? Was this back in the days of the old MSN money site? Yes...and I think on this site, too. I can't remember when he got married...mind you, we all told him NOT to get married but no one listens to internet strangers
ETA: I jumped to where you asked me the question...didn't see that everyone and their brother has already answered
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jul 22, 2015 12:16:29 GMT -5
So is he still married or did he divorce her? Still together.... I remember the conversation where everyone was trying to get hij to her.... turns out it was the day before the wedding. Me too.
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Post by andi9899 on Jul 22, 2015 12:34:16 GMT -5
I don't remember that! Where was I? I miss everything.
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Post by andi9899 on Jul 22, 2015 12:35:54 GMT -5
A 1995 convertible mustang has minimal value. What is the insurance payout if its fully insured? So BG, how much is this going to cost you to replace the mustang with a safe/presentable car for the 17 year old?Is it more than a swimming pool? After all, the bio dad cannot be counted on, I wonder what his take on things are? $0 I'm not putting a single cent toward her getting another car. She can get with her mother and they can decide on a suitable replacement using the insurance money, but I'm not paying for anything. My recommendation that she buy a used truck with a manual transmission because she won't be able to drive and play with her phone (she says she looked down at her phone right before the accident, but wasn't texting ) has been rejected. I can play with my phone and drive a stick at the same time. Don't think she won't just because she's got a manual transmission.
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Jul 22, 2015 12:47:59 GMT -5
BUT IS THE DOG ALL RIGHT? Dog seems to have improved. However, I let him out an hour ago, and his urine is black, which indicates hematuria, aka blood in the urine. Might be internal bleeding, might be an infection. GF is calling her vet. OH NO! fix the poor dog! he's the only innocent one in this ordeal!
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Post by beergut on Jul 22, 2015 13:04:10 GMT -5
She works as a lifeguard during the summer. She works a lot of hours, but it is minimum wage. I think forcing her to pay the increase in insurance is a good idea, but we'll see what GF thinks. I destroyed two cars when I was 18-19, and my parents were patient with me. GF apparently had an interesting history with cars, too. I want 17 yr old to understand what happened can't be repeated, but I am not going to punish her for having an accident. I can't come down too hard on her, because it would be hypocritical to treat her in a harsher manner than what I grew up with. That said, after my second car died, I went three years through college with no car. If she tears up a second car, she's going to re-discover the joys of walking everywhere. You certainly have a lot of "I" demands in this post of yours. I've mentioned before there is no "I" when it comes to this family. You're the live in boyfriend, and the daughter is neither yours nor your step daughter. The minute you started correcting and punishing my kid is the day your a** is thrown out the door. As I recall, your 'kid' is 55 years old, so not sure why I'd be 'punishing' someone who is already an adult and should know better. Given your attitude as it has presented itself on here, I'm quite certain there is no way you could ever be attractive to me, so we would never date, so this situation would never come up in the first place. As I recall, you had to remove yourself from the previous thread where I mentioned my frustration with my GF. Since I haven't tagged you or in any way asked for your opinion on this situation, I suggest you likewise remove yourself from this thread, and I'll just go ahead and ignore your reply.
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Post by beergut on Jul 22, 2015 13:07:21 GMT -5
Bio dad pays child support which is providing a roof over your head, too. I wish. I spend more on food for the kids in one week than he pays in support each month. Bio-dad spends less for his three kids combined than my brother pays for my niece alone.
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Post by beergut on Jul 22, 2015 13:09:14 GMT -5
$0 I'm not putting a single cent toward her getting another car. She can get with her mother and they can decide on a suitable replacement using the insurance money, but I'm not paying for anything. My recommendation that she buy a used truck with a manual transmission because she won't be able to drive and play with her phone (she says she looked down at her phone right before the accident, but wasn't texting ) has been rejected. I can play with my phone and drive a stick at the same time. Don't think she won't just because she's got a manual transmission. Well, gee, thanks for killing my optimism about that option Maybe the answer for teens is that they need to leave their phones at home when they go out, and keep a 'dumb' phone in the car for emergencies? If the only thing their phone can do is call out or receive calls, they can't text or surf the net while driving.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Jul 22, 2015 13:16:30 GMT -5
I thought there was a setting on iphones where you could restrict their use while moving?
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 22, 2015 13:29:07 GMT -5
Well, only you can decide how to proceed with this situation. I know what advice I would give your girlfriend.
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Post by andi9899 on Jul 22, 2015 14:20:54 GMT -5
I can play with my phone and drive a stick at the same time. Don't think she won't just because she's got a manual transmission. Well, gee, thanks for killing my optimism about that option Maybe the answer for teens is that they need to leave their phones at home when they go out, and keep a 'dumb' phone in the car for emergencies? If the only thing their phone can do is call out or receive calls, they can't text or surf the net while driving. Maybe she needs to be held accountable for her actions and face consequences. Let her pay for the car insurance increase and buy herself a new (to her) car and carry the insurance on it. If there are no consequences, nothing changes.
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Post by honeysalt on Jul 22, 2015 16:17:50 GMT -5
I don't have a crystal ball, so I can't say that she won't change. I can say that it doesn't make a lot of sense to be in a serious relationship with someone who has core behaviors or values that you can't accept. She might be the greatest lady on your coast, but if you resent her actions, you won't be able to enjoy her good qualities or your time with her, not in the long term.
So, if you can't accept her current spending habits, do all of you a favor and cut your losses. It will only get harder as more time goes on.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 22, 2015 17:10:48 GMT -5
But where would he go?
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Post by Angel! on Jul 22, 2015 17:31:32 GMT -5
I don't have a crystal ball, so I can't say that she won't change. I can say that it doesn't make a lot of sense to be in a serious relationship with someone who has core behaviors or values that you can't accept. She might be the greatest lady on your coast, but if you resent her actions, you won't be able to enjoy her good qualities or your time with her, not in the long term. So, if you can't accept her current spending habits, do all of you a favor and cut your losses. It will only get harder as more time goes on.
I didn't read the other thread, so I don't know the full story. But, don't expect her to change. Don't love her for who she could be, if only she changed X, Y, & Z about herself. Either love her & accept her for who she is or move on. She may eventually change, but going through a relationship needing her to change will only bring misery to both of you.
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Post by resolution on Jul 22, 2015 18:38:41 GMT -5
I think there is a fair chance that the problem is the system they are using to share expenses rather than any character flaws on the part of either party. It would be worth switching to a more normal expense sharing arrangement and see if it alleviates some of the issues.
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Post by debthaven on Jul 22, 2015 19:18:16 GMT -5
I think there is a fair chance that the problem is the system they are using to share expenses rather than any character flaws on the part of either party. It would be worth switching to a more normal expense sharing arrangement and see if it alleviates some of the issues.
Before this thread I would have agreed with you. But after the pool remark (which came after the vacation, and the kids' camps, and the incidentals which turned out to be swag) I don't anymore. I think Beer's GF is living above her means and hoping / expecting him to fund the life she and her kids deserve / want.
Beergut, I like to think that there are women with 3 kids worth taking on, because I was one of them. Let me tell you that I NEVER, and I mean NEVER asked DH for ONE RED CENT while he was "spending a lot of time here". And that phase lasted for several years. He treated us to meals out, treats, and a vacation. He too lived in a "halfway state" of both having his own place yet spending most of his time here.
It wasn't until he finally decided to move in until we actually discussed and implemented a budget.
But again, I never asked him for ONE. RED. CENT. NOT ONE RED CENT. NOT FOR ME, NOT FOR MY KIDS. Let alone to pay for a pool!!!
My sister always says, a joke is when BOTH people laugh. Your GF's comment was not a joke, it was a pathetic and distasteful attempt at "gimme more".
I am sure that your GF has many wonderful qualities. But I really don't like her attitude about money, and if I were you, since these things have happened repeatedly, not just once, not just twice and not just three times, personally, I don't think I could get past it.
You repeatedly talk about how she earns a great salary, much more than you. Yet YOU are repeatedly the one who not only treats the family, but bails them and now her poor doggie out.
If you hadn't been over the night her dog was in such terrible shape, what would have happened?! That really bothers me too.
The bottom line is, your GF can't afford her lifestyle.
This said, you can't have it both ways. At some point you need to commit, and pay REGULAR expenses, or not.
There's something VERY wrong with this picture.
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Post by beergut on Jul 24, 2015 18:18:46 GMT -5
Just an update on the dog, he went to the vet again yesterday. They prescribed a different antibiotic, and he seems to have improved tremendously and is almost back to his old self.
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Jul 24, 2015 18:54:07 GMT -5
Just an update on the dog, he went to the vet again yesterday. They prescribed a different antibiotic, and he seems to have improved tremendously and is almost back to his old self. Thank goodness!!! Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards
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Post by dannylion on Jul 24, 2015 19:15:17 GMT -5
Just an update on the dog, he went to the vet again yesterday. They prescribed a different antibiotic, and he seems to have improved tremendously and is almost back to his old self. Thanks for the update! I'm glad to hear the dog is doing better. Poor sweetie.
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Post by gooddecisions on Jul 24, 2015 19:38:06 GMT -5
I think there is a fair chance that the problem is the system they are using to share expenses rather than any character flaws on the part of either party. It would be worth switching to a more normal expense sharing arrangement and see if it alleviates some of the issues.Before this thread I would have agreed with you. But after the pool remark (which came after the vacation, and the kids' camps, and the incidentals which turned out to be swag) I don't anymore. I think Beer's GF is living above her means and hoping / expecting him to fund the life she and her kids deserve / want. Beergut, I like to think that there are women with 3 kids worth taking on, because I was one of them. Let me tell you that I NEVER, and I mean NEVER asked DH for ONE RED CENT while he was "spending a lot of time here". And that phase lasted for several years. He treated us to meals out, treats, and a vacation. He too lived in a "halfway state" of both having his own place yet spending most of his time here. It wasn't until he finally decided to move in until we actually discussed and implemented a budget. But again, I never asked him for ONE. RED. CENT. NOT ONE RED CENT. NOT FOR ME, NOT FOR MY KIDS. Let alone to pay for a pool!!! My sister always says, a joke is when BOTH people laugh. Your GF's comment was not a joke, it was a pathetic and distasteful attempt at "gimme more". I am sure that your GF has many wonderful qualities. But I really don't like her attitude about money, and if I were you, since these things have happened repeatedly, not just once, not just twice and not just three times, personally, I don't think I could get past it. You repeatedly talk about how she earns a great salary, much more than you. Yet YOU are repeatedly the one who not only treats the family, but bails them and now her poor doggie out. If you hadn't been over the night her dog was in such terrible shape, what would have happened?! That really bothers me too. The bottom line is, your GF can't afford her lifestyle. This said, you can't have it both ways. At some point you need to commit, and pay REGULAR expenses, or not. There's something VERY wrong with this picture. So your boyfriend payed for all the same stuff beer pays for and had his own place. No, you didn't ask for those things, but you didn't have a moocher. See the difference? I am still siding with the gf until beer actually pays for the roof over his head.
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