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Post by zibazinski on May 14, 2015 9:19:38 GMT -5
I hate cheerful morning people. Glad the kids grew out of it. Them being as grumpy as I am in the am made for a mutually harmonius household.
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Post by giramomma on May 14, 2015 9:49:35 GMT -5
Older son is a morning person. He's almost 13 and still gets up at 5:30am every day even on the weekends. He's happy and cheerful and it's just sickening. OK. You just burst my bubble. I was hoping that once DS was an official teen, he'd sleep in. Now I hear he may not...
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Post by giramomma on May 14, 2015 9:50:55 GMT -5
Oh yeah, btw all the night time wakeups we used to have for the kids, I still haven't sleep trained myself yet. I wake up every hour at least and it takes me a while to fall asleep at night. Sometimes I still hear phantom crying which is the worst After having a kid that thought sleep was optional, I don't sleep now for more than 6 hours a night. It's rare that I sleep 7 or 8 hours.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on May 14, 2015 10:20:32 GMT -5
Oh yeah, btw all the night time wakeups we used to have for the kids, I still haven't sleep trained myself yet. I wake up every hour at least and it takes me a while to fall asleep at night. Sometimes I still hear phantom crying which is the worst Pre-kids I was the bestest sleeper in the world. I should have gotten a gold medal or something. I could sleep through anything!!! And I could sleep as late as noon! And I could fall asleep on demand any time anywhere Now, I am a very light sleeper and wake up at 8am no matter what time i went to bed. Not only I lost most of my brain cells, and I look like a cow who swallowed a whale, I lost an ability to sleep. I am sure the whole having kids "it's all worth it" will kick in any day now. Any day.....
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Post by MJ2.0 on May 14, 2015 10:24:57 GMT -5
Oh yeah, btw all the night time wakeups we used to have for the kids, I still haven't sleep trained myself yet. I wake up every hour at least and it takes me a while to fall asleep at night. Sometimes I still hear phantom crying which is the worst my favorite is hearing phantom crying when DS is nowhere in the vicinity.
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Post by yogiii on May 14, 2015 10:25:04 GMT -5
Oh you've reminded me of one of my favorite things! When people used to tell me to just "take a nap" when the kid napped. Well first, my kids nap 30 mins max. If it's a good day, it would take me 30 mins to fall asleep. Even better was with my 2nd when I also had a 3 year old in the house. Yes, I'll just leave him in charge right after I instantly fall asleep, I'll hand him some matches and knives while I'm at it too
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 10:26:05 GMT -5
I sleep like a rock. Kids never changed that for me...probably because they both have always been good sleepers themselves (after the initial 6 months of round the clock nursing). Then I started taking migraine preventative meds and now I REALLY sleep. They supposedly prescribe them for people with insomnia too.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on May 14, 2015 11:00:14 GMT -5
My kid had the most epic melt down this morning because I put a yellow cheese stick in her lunch instead of a white one.
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Post by Angel! on May 14, 2015 11:02:45 GMT -5
I have the hardest time getting younger son out of bed in the morning. It's awful. Lately, I've given that task to older son. I don't think he's all that nice about it some days, but he gets the job done. Some mornings I just dress DD while she is still laying in bed. Then when it is time to go I just carry her to the car. She can eat breakfast at school, so don't have to worry about that. It just isn't worth the battle of trying to make her get up or dress herself on those days. Maybe it is just lack of sleep for your son. I know DD is definitely worse on days when she didn't get enough sleep the night before.
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Post by Abby Normal on May 14, 2015 11:21:03 GMT -5
Older son is a morning person. He's almost 13 and still gets up at 5:30am every day even on the weekends. He's happy and cheerful and it's just sickening. Well that just separated our kids. He used to be a morning person. Now he's turning into his father. Up late/ sleep late if given a choice.
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Post by t-dog on May 14, 2015 11:35:38 GMT -5
Oh yeah, btw all the night time wakeups we used to have for the kids, I still haven't sleep trained myself yet. I wake up every hour at least and it takes me a while to fall asleep at night. Sometimes I still hear phantom crying which is the worst Pre-kids I was the bestest sleeper in the world. I should have gotten a gold medal or something. I could sleep through anything!!! And I could sleep as late as noon! And I could fall asleep on demand any time anywhere Now, I am a very light sleeper and wake up at 8am no matter what time i went to bed. Not only I lost most of my brain cells, and I look like a cow who swallowed a whale, I lost an ability to sleep. I am sure the whole having kids "it's all worth it" will kick in any day now. Any day..... describes me perfectly.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on May 14, 2015 11:42:10 GMT -5
I sleep like a rock. Kids never changed that for me...probably because they both have always been good sleepers themselves (after the initial 6 months of round the clock nursing). Then I started taking migraine preventative meds and now I REALLY sleep. They supposedly prescribe them for people with insomnia too. And! you have chickens!! Could your life get any better?
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Post by giramomma on May 14, 2015 11:42:08 GMT -5
My kid had the most epic melt down this morning because I put a yellow cheese stick in her lunch instead of a white one. My 7 yo had a melt down this morning over us trying to prevent spilt milk... And according to my 11 yo, cheese at grandma's is just better. So we should get that kind. This, after informing me last night that he's not a picky eater.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on May 14, 2015 11:52:03 GMT -5
when my 6 year old gets really worked up I put her on her bed and lay on her, holding her arms and legs down until she calms down. Does that get me any awards? If her DS is anything like my youngest, he'll scratch your eyes out to get up. I learned way early that he hates being held down/on to with an intensity you don't get from normal experiences. Even gripping his arm would make him start twisting trying to get away. I wish I knew what his life was like when his mom had him for the first 18 months. And then some days I really really don't want to know. My DS has Oppositional Defiant Disorder to go with the ADHD, he will engage over anything. Any. thing. He will argue that the sky isn't blue, it's periwinkle or whatever. He doesn't back down, he doesn't want to just let it go and if it's over something like an "order" (put your shoes on) you can bet there will be a screaming raging fit if he decides to be uncooperative. He HAS improved, but it isn't over. Not very encouraging huh? IDK if any of that is your DS's problem MPL, but I'd find someone with experience in these things and get him tested, knowing what they're dealing with makes a huge difference in how the school handles my DS. Now if we could only get the PE staff in on the meetings....... that's where he usually has an issue because they aren't as familiar with him and think he will respond to them like a normal kid. Now on to read past page 2......
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 12:27:10 GMT -5
when my 6 year old gets really worked up I put her on her bed and lay on her, holding her arms and legs down until she calms down. Does that get me any awards? If her DS is anything like my youngest, he'll scratch your eyes out to get up. I learned way early that he hates being held down/on to with an intensity you don't get from normal experiences. Even gripping his arm would make him start twisting trying to get away. I wish I knew what his life was like when his mom had him for the first 18 months. And then some days I really really don't want to know. My DS has Oppositional Defiant Disorder to go with the ADHD, he will engage over anything. Any. thing. He will argue that the sky isn't blue, it's periwinkle or whatever. He doesn't back down, he doesn't want to just let it go and if it's over something like an "order" (put your shoes on) you can bet there will be a screaming raging fit if he decides to be uncooperative. He HAS improved, but it isn't over. Not very encouraging huh? IDK if any of that is your DS's problem MPL, but I'd find someone with experience in these things and get him tested, knowing what they're dealing with makes a huge difference in how the school handles my DS. Now if we could only get the PE staff in on the meetings....... that's where he usually has an issue because they aren't as familiar with him and think he will respond to them like a normal kid. Now on to read past page 2...... ODD was my fear, and I sure hope that isn't it. I read up on it some and I don't THINK it is because it isn't a daily thing I'm always dealing with but I am going to research some of the techniques for dealing with a child with ODD because I'm sure what I do just makes things worse.
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Post by MJ2.0 on May 14, 2015 12:45:10 GMT -5
My kid had the most epic melt down this morning because I put a yellow cheese stick in her lunch instead of a white one. My 7 yo had a melt down this morning over us trying to prevent spilt milk... And according to my 11 yo, cheese at grandma's is just better. So we should get that kind. This, after informing me last night that he's not a picky eater. DS wanted to wear his winter coat to school today and fought with me when I tried to give him his spring jacket. So I let him wear the heavy coat into school, then I swapped it with the spring one when he wasn't looking.
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Post by giramomma on May 14, 2015 12:52:03 GMT -5
My 7 yo had a melt down this morning over us trying to prevent spilt milk... And according to my 11 yo, cheese at grandma's is just better. So we should get that kind. This, after informing me last night that he's not a picky eater. DS wanted to wear his winter coat to school today and fought with me when I tried to give him his spring jacket. So I let him wear the heavy coat into school, then I swapped it with the spring one when he wasn't looking. DD2 refused to wear her winter coat all winter. Then would only wear when it got over 70..All I can do is laugh.
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Post by yogiii on May 14, 2015 12:54:35 GMT -5
I had to teach DH how to put hair in a ponytail a few months before DD turned 2. He couldn't deal with her yelling "PONY!!" in hysterics every morning I wasn't there that she wanted one.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on May 14, 2015 12:55:00 GMT -5
I would have swapped the yellow cheese for white cheese if she had just asked nicely instead of throwing herself on the ground and screaming like she was being torn apart by a pack of hungry wolves.
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Post by Lizard Queen on May 14, 2015 12:56:16 GMT -5
I gave DS2 the option to wear his winter coat this morning. It was around 40, and it's supposed to get up to 65. What do you do? He finally agreed to wear his spring jacket over a hoodie. I think his sniffling lately has been due to allergies, but I'd rather not push it.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on May 14, 2015 13:12:38 GMT -5
If her DS is anything like my youngest, he'll scratch your eyes out to get up. I learned way early that he hates being held down/on to with an intensity you don't get from normal experiences. Even gripping his arm would make him start twisting trying to get away. I wish I knew what his life was like when his mom had him for the first 18 months. And then some days I really really don't want to know. My DS has Oppositional Defiant Disorder to go with the ADHD, he will engage over anything. Any. thing. He will argue that the sky isn't blue, it's periwinkle or whatever. He doesn't back down, he doesn't want to just let it go and if it's over something like an "order" (put your shoes on) you can bet there will be a screaming raging fit if he decides to be uncooperative. He HAS improved, but it isn't over. Not very encouraging huh? IDK if any of that is your DS's problem MPL, but I'd find someone with experience in these things and get him tested, knowing what they're dealing with makes a huge difference in how the school handles my DS. Now if we could only get the PE staff in on the meetings....... that's where he usually has an issue because they aren't as familiar with him and think he will respond to them like a normal kid. Now on to read past page 2...... ODD was my fear, and I sure hope that isn't it. I read up on it some and I don't THINK it is because it isn't a daily thing I'm always dealing with but I am going to research some of the techniques for dealing with a child with ODD because I'm sure what I do just makes things worse. If it's not every. stinking. time. it's probably not ODD, arguing is as natural as breathing to him. He even admits he knows he can't stop and doesn't know how. I'm trying hard to teach him to let things go but the concepts are so much harder than "put your shoes on". :/
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Post by Abby Normal on May 14, 2015 13:12:45 GMT -5
I used to tell DS that he always had choices- sometimes he may not like the choices he has. You can wear your spring coat (and be cold) or wear your winter coat (and be comfortable). As long as it's not putting him in danger- I'd let him choose. Somethings just aren't worth the battle.
But I can remember this one instance. He was about 4 and having a major tantrum. Seriously- I think it lasted about an hour. I just sat there and waited him out. DH came home and I took one look at him and said " not a word". He managed to not say anything to DS for about 5 minutes. Then finally walked up to him and said " Dude, give it up. Mom is waaaaay more stubborn than you will ever be. YOU WILL NOT WIN". Just a few minutes later, DS calmed down. Never threw another tantrum again. Moody yes, full out tantrum no.
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Post by Abby Normal on May 14, 2015 13:17:02 GMT -5
ODD was my fear, and I sure hope that isn't it. I read up on it some and I don't THINK it is because it isn't a daily thing I'm always dealing with but I am going to research some of the techniques for dealing with a child with ODD because I'm sure what I do just makes things worse. If it's not every. stinking. time. it's probably not ODD, arguing is as natural as breathing to him. He even admits he knows he can't stop and doesn't know how. I'm trying hard to teach him to let things go but the concepts are so much harder than "put your shoes on". :/ I feel for you. I watch my friend go through it with her kid. It's not pleasant.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 13:17:43 GMT -5
After talking with the teacher, it sounds like the problems at school aren't quite the same as at home. The word she finally used to describe him (and she said she hated to use this word) was "lazy". Awesome. I have TWO bright, lazy kids! The lazy part didn't kick in with older son until 5th or 6th grade. She said academically he already meets all the requirements for leaving Kindy, but she's worried about his "love of learning" and lack of motivation. I asked if she thought he was bored and she said that's how they treated it first and would give him more challenging works, but he gets in these moods where he doesn't want to do anything and will just sit there the entire day. He's not bothering the other kids or causing problems unless they try to redirect or get him to do something, then he starts with the disrespect and doing things he's not supposed to like flicking beads around the room and not keeping his work on his mat. I mentioned he didn't like that they chose his works. She said that that was HIS decision and that he asked her to pick things for him and give him a work plan for the day which she agreed to. I said he wanted to do more maps but was told he couldn't. She laughed at that one and said he's free to do all the map works he wants and she'd be thrilled if he would. This morning I got him pumped up about doing the Australia map, so we'll see if he decided to do it or not. We also talked about maybe the teacher leaving a note in his cubby every day for me to get that says what he completed if I want to reward him some way at home for getting things done at school. I'm a little hesitant because I fear the stakes going up over time. Older son is up to wanting a $1000 drone to get caught up on his homework. WTH? Do your damn homework!
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 13:21:57 GMT -5
ODD was my fear, and I sure hope that isn't it. I read up on it some and I don't THINK it is because it isn't a daily thing I'm always dealing with but I am going to research some of the techniques for dealing with a child with ODD because I'm sure what I do just makes things worse. If it's not every. stinking. time. it's probably not ODD, arguing is as natural as breathing to him. He even admits he knows he can't stop and doesn't know how. I'm trying hard to teach him to let things go but the concepts are so much harder than "put your shoes on". :/ Yeah, that's what I was reading, how it had to be pretty much every day to meet the criteria. DS can be good for several days, or at least half the time. I really am sorry you have to go through that though. I know how insane DS can make me when he gets that way and if it was all the time. Ugh.
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Post by KaraBoo on May 14, 2015 13:22:55 GMT -5
Older son is a morning person. He's almost 13 and still gets up at 5:30am every day even on the weekends. He's happy and cheerful and it's just sickening. OK. You just burst my bubble. I was hoping that once DS was an official teen, he'd sleep in. Now I hear he may not... Mine is 18 and still wakes up at 5:30 am on his own. Has for YEARS. But he also puts himself to sleep at 8pm, or as soon as he's tired - has always been like this. If I have to wake him up, he's either sick or in the middle of marching band season. I let him sleep if he's like that because it's so outside his "normal" that I figure he needs the extra sleep.
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Post by CarolinaKat on May 14, 2015 13:27:09 GMT -5
After talking with the teacher, it sounds like the problems at school aren't quite the same as at home. The word she finally used to describe him (and she said she hated to use this word) was "lazy". Awesome. I have TWO bright, lazy kids! The lazy part didn't kick in with older son until 5th or 6th grade. She said academically he already meets all the requirements for leaving Kindy, but she's worried about his "love of learning" and lack of motivation. I asked if she thought he was bored and she said that's how they treated it first and would give him more challenging works, but he gets in these moods where he doesn't want to do anything and will just sit there the entire day. He's not bothering the other kids or causing problems unless they try to redirect or get him to do something, then he starts with the disrespect and doing things he's not supposed to like flicking beads around the room and not keeping his work on his mat. I mentioned he didn't like that they chose his works. She said that that was HIS decision and that he asked her to pick things for him and give him a work plan for the day which she agreed to. I said he wanted to do more maps but was told he couldn't. She laughed at that one and said he's free to do all the map works he wants and she'd be thrilled if he would. This morning I got him pumped up about doing the Australia map, so we'll see if he decided to do it or not. We also talked about maybe the teacher leaving a note in his cubby every day for me to get that says what he completed if I want to reward him some way at home for getting things done at school. I'm a little hesitant because I fear the stakes going up over time. Older son is up to wanting a $1000 drone to get caught up on his homework. WTH? Do your damn homework! Who's idea was that?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 13:27:43 GMT -5
I have the hardest time getting younger son out of bed in the morning. It's awful. Lately, I've given that task to older son. I don't think he's all that nice about it some days, but he gets the job done. Some mornings I just dress DD while she is still laying in bed. Then when it is time to go I just carry her to the car. She can eat breakfast at school, so don't have to worry about that. It just isn't worth the battle of trying to make her get up or dress herself on those days. Maybe it is just lack of sleep for your son. I know DD is definitely worse on days when she didn't get enough sleep the night before. I've tried the dressing him in bed, but he sleeps in the top bunk, LOL. It's not easy! I tried convincing him to sleep in the bottom, but he'll have none of that, so I'm not going to fight him on that. I keep making his bedtime earlier, right now he gets 11 hours a night. He falls asleep within minutes of going down so it's not like he's screwing around in bed until 10. It's getting harder and harder to convince him now that it's bright sun at 7pm, but he still goes down pretty good. His room is kind of bright too because he has vaulted ceilings and one of those half moon windows above his window with no blind. I guess I could hang a heavy blanket up and not care what it looks like.
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Post by KaraBoo on May 14, 2015 13:28:09 GMT -5
After talking with the teacher, it sounds like the problems at school aren't quite the same as at home. The word she finally used to describe him (and she said she hated to use this word) was "lazy". Awesome. I have TWO bright, lazy kids! The lazy part didn't kick in with older son until 5th or 6th grade. She said academically he already meets all the requirements for leaving Kindy, but she's worried about his "love of learning" and lack of motivation. I asked if she thought he was bored and she said that's how they treated it first and would give him more challenging works, but he gets in these moods where he doesn't want to do anything and will just sit there the entire day. He's not bothering the other kids or causing problems unless they try to redirect or get him to do something, then he starts with the disrespect and doing things he's not supposed to like flicking beads around the room and not keeping his work on his mat. I mentioned he didn't like that they chose his works. She said that that was HIS decision and that he asked her to pick things for him and give him a work plan for the day which she agreed to. I said he wanted to do more maps but was told he couldn't. She laughed at that one and said he's free to do all the map works he wants and she'd be thrilled if he would. This morning I got him pumped up about doing the Australia map, so we'll see if he decided to do it or not. We also talked about maybe the teacher leaving a note in his cubby every day for me to get that says what he completed if I want to reward him some way at home for getting things done at school. I'm a little hesitant because I fear the stakes going up over time. Older son is up to wanting a $1000 drone to get caught up on his homework. WTH? Do your damn homework! My SS, at 16 almost 17, is described EXACTLY like this. I have no solution for you at the moment. We just received SS's progress report for the 6 weeks from one class. He has a whopping grade of a 1. Yes, a 1. The only reason it isn't a zero is because he did one paper that he received a grade of a 20 on. I'm sorry I don't have any better news than this. It makes me sad that SS has made the choice he has.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 13:28:53 GMT -5
OK. You just burst my bubble. I was hoping that once DS was an official teen, he'd sleep in. Now I hear he may not... Mine is 18 and still wakes up at 5:30 am on his own. Has for YEARS. But he also puts himself to sleep at 8pm, or as soon as he's tired - has always been like this. If I have to wake him up, he's either sick or in the middle of marching band season. I let him sleep if he's like that because it's so outside his "normal" that I figure he needs the extra sleep. My early riser goes to bed early on his own too. He has no bedtime, but normally heads down about 8:30. If he's reading he'll stay up, but that's about it.
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