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Post by thyme4change on Jan 21, 2015 19:17:47 GMT -5
I agree with whoever said that this whole thing is more about the parents than what actually happened with the kids. If the parents hadn't gotten so defensive and cooperated, I bet they wouldn't have been visited by CPS and whatever. They purposely made a big hairy deal of the situation to bring attention to their belief system. They are proselytizing.
I suspect that there are many groups out there who will provide lawyers whose mission it is to get the government out of our business. I know one of them and he works for some vaguely meaningless named organizations like "The Justice League of America." They will fight this in criminal court, and possibly sue the police department or CPS or something, all in the name of making their lifestyle acceptable. This will be dragged out in court AND dragged out in the media. They will be the martyrs of the cause.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Jan 21, 2015 19:22:04 GMT -5
There are 7 kids next door. For years we've watched them run the neighborhood-playing ball in the street, nearly being run over several times. We've witnessed the dad hop in his vehicle after drinking (or WHILE drinking) and drive away (yes, this was reported, no nothing happened). He swears at them, calls them names, etc. Sometimes they aren't dressed appropriately for outdoors. Sometimes they are playing in weather they shouldn't be outside in. As mentioned before, the youngest disappears to the neighbors house for hours and no one comes looking for him. Ya' can't fix stupid. So you shouldn't question it? LOL! Question whom? The parents? They're idiots. The cops? They could give a shit (two live down the street in two separate homes and have witnessed the behavior first hand). DH and I question each other within the confines of our home all the time: Did you see Dumbass (the dad)/kids/dad/wife/their friends/his dad/her mom next door doing X, Y and/or Z? Not worth our time or worry. Their house is up for sale. Again. And we have been . Again. oped, I think it's both puzzling and, oh, IDK, strange, you have such a vested interest in this particular subject. But then, I refer to my usual disclaimer: I don't have kids.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 19:38:09 GMT -5
I don't know why? Maybe it's because I am actively fighting the 'what right do they have to question me' issue with homeschooling in our state. We just had some significant law changes in our state and I've had to articulate why I'm not exactly a fan. It's not the same exact subject, but it strikes at similar chords.
I do see a bit of hypocrisy in how lots of people institute 'independence and freedom'... Been dealing with that as well. But we all are inconsistent somewhere or other.
I like to to debate though. And I get my hackles up just as much as the 'other side' when the judging starts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 19:38:59 GMT -5
I guess I'm not sure why it's strange I have an interest in the subject though? I always will be an advocate for children.
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 21, 2015 19:46:42 GMT -5
oped, I think it's both puzzling and, oh, IDK, strange, you have such a vested interest in this particular subject.
Oped has a vested interest in most subjects. That is why we love her so much. She even named herself the moniker for "Opinion Editorial" so she can't just go around not expressing her opinion. Be careful though - she is smart as shit, so no matter what you say, you will get painted into a corner and end up looking like an asshole. I only engage when I need a dose of humility.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 19:52:34 GMT -5
Lol. Thanks, I think. I don't have an interest in all subjects But I guess I'm kind of vocal on those in which I do.... Been dealing with that too sigh.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 3:54:40 GMT -5
Seriously you've never known kids allowed to roam because their parents don't want to deal with them? Want quiet? Want to turn tricks? Get drunk? Do drugs? Not the parent. That's the babysitter.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 22, 2015 12:11:34 GMT -5
I was out in Oregon working on my rental to get it ready to sell and I own the one next to it also. The mom works and her 8 year old come home to an empty house until older sisters get home. At least two hours later, maybe more. I felt bad for both the mom and the girl. Hope neighbors don't rat her out but 8 is very young.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Jan 22, 2015 14:52:41 GMT -5
I live in a middle class neighborhood but some sketchy stuff goes on in the park occasionally. Homeless people burning fires in the wooded area, I'm pretty sure I've seen some drug deals going down in the parking lot although maybe legalized pot will cut down on that, and there's a pack of coyotes. We have a four year old that free ranges with his older siblings in the park. Drops f-bombs, throws rocks, parents are out of the picture according to his grandmother. Do we live in the same subdivision? One day my sis and her family came to visit, and as she was driving slowly past our neighbor's house to park in front of ours, the youngest, about four, tossed something at her car.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Mar 3, 2015 15:19:25 GMT -5
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Post by busymom on Mar 4, 2015 21:58:28 GMT -5
The neighborhood I grew up in had one large family where the mom worked the late shift, & literally sent her kids off into the neighborhood in the morning, & LOCKED THE DOOR so she could get some sleep. It was no major surprise to the neighbors when a lot of the kids got into trouble, & one of her kids actually ended up going to jail. Of course, in those days no one called social services. That was "the" family that your parents told you to stay away from.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 22:43:36 GMT -5
The neighborhood I grew up in had one large family where the mom worked the late shift, & literally sent her kids off into the neighborhood in the morning, & LOCKED THE DOOR so she could get some sleep. It was no major surprise to the neighbors when a lot of the kids got into trouble, & one of her kids actually ended up going to jail. Of course, in those days no one called social services. That was "the" family that your parents told you to stay away from. Is that the better use of community resources then?
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