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Post by frankq on Mar 12, 2011 20:55:09 GMT -5
I strongly agree that the elimination of collective bargaining would be catastrophic. The right to bargain for work performed, and to work under a contract, as far as I am concerned, is a fundamental right. Since the public union had agreed to concessions, it is obvious that money wasn't the prime factor here. To call this part of a plot spearheaded by the NWO is a bit of a stretch. To call it an attempt to destroy unions by card carrying supporters of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce would be more accurate. The fact that Wisconson is a Great Lake state is immaterial. I hope that the people of Wisconson realize what they have done. I hope the rest of the country has learned a lesson here too.
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Post by kman on Mar 12, 2011 21:39:11 GMT -5
Hey...You never know. The value of homes in the Great lakes region, may increase dramatically!!!
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Post by domeasingold on Mar 12, 2011 22:12:20 GMT -5
So, guys. When does life on earth end really? V_L, what do you mean...dark genes? Is that the opposite of light genes? You better explain because Verrip may take that as a racial slur. You know how pissed that will make a 325 pound Samoan.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Mar 12, 2011 22:25:55 GMT -5
I know one thing Domer, it's time that this gets brought out here. This would be scientific evidence that debunks more of what a certain poster is claiming as his own theory. I just wanted to wait for a bit to make sure that it was out there that these recent disasters were leading to the end. www.2012hoax.org/magnetic-pole-shift This should be interesting..
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Post by vl on Mar 13, 2011 7:25:24 GMT -5
I hope that the people of Wisconsin realize what they have done. I hope the rest of the country has learned a lesson here too. Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=moneytalk&action=display&thread=4219&page=6#ixzz1GTvWYCZXMost people in Wisconsin are wondering WHO voted these assholes in because no one they know voted GOP last election. As for other states... the same is happening in Ohio and Michigan. All GREAT LAKES states. Hmmmm... no calculated take-over plan there, huh? NEW WORLD ORDER.
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Post by frankq on Mar 13, 2011 7:37:59 GMT -5
"Most people in Wisconsin are wondering WHO voted these assholes in because no one they know voted GOP last election. As for other states... the same is happening in Ohio and Michigan. All GREAT LAKES states. Hmmmm... no calculated take-over plan there, huh?"
No V.L.
Most people in Wisconson DON'T WANT TO ADMIT that they voted for the GOP in the last election on the just in case someone within earshot that is losing their union status hears them and kicks their ass! You couldn't find anyone who voted for Nixon after Watergate either. NWO? Yeah, Great lakes states are HEAVILY UNION. Yes. It is a concerted effort to break ALL unions in HEAVILY unionized states using current economics as an excuse. You want to read fresh water into this? Man, you are on the right thread.....
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Post by jarhead1976 on Mar 13, 2011 9:00:35 GMT -5
Voting machines are rigged?
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Post by frankq on Mar 13, 2011 9:52:41 GMT -5
Yeah, whatever......
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Mar 13, 2011 12:55:31 GMT -5
That's great Q I was thinking the same thing. That's the double edge sword of democracy. All votes are secret..
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Post by frankq on Mar 20, 2011 16:19:06 GMT -5
That's what I love about message boards. These "student-strengthened populism" narratives will still be around six months from now when some hard-line Islamic theocracy seizes the reins of power. Keep smoking that blunt, sir. 3/20/11 - Update: Egyptians go to the polls and overwhelmingly approve changes and revisions to their constitution. This is starting to look like something good happenning in Egypt. No talk of Islamic militants... I'll bet Virgil hoped that I had forgotten what he said a few weeks ago....... You guys really have to start looking for that silver lining....
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Mar 20, 2011 16:24:56 GMT -5
That Islamic militants want to pretend that what is going ion in Egypt isn't happening. It' doesn't fit their views, therefore it isn't happening.. Sound familiar?
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Post by Driftr on Mar 21, 2011 13:59:00 GMT -5
You guys really have to start looking for that silver lining.... Why? You know if they ever find it they'll just rip it out, melt it down, and start dancing around it like 7 year old girls at a Hannah Montana concert.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2011 14:31:28 GMT -5
Drftr
too damn funny
k for you
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Post by frankq on Mar 21, 2011 16:30:39 GMT -5
You guys really have to start looking for that silver lining.... Why? You know if they ever find it they'll just rip it out, melt it down, and start dancing around it like 7 year old girls at a Hannah Montana concert. K4Driftr!
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Post by Driftr on Mar 21, 2011 16:43:35 GMT -5
You gents are too kind. I just wish I would have had my 2010 bonus check a bit sooner and been able to buy some eagles down where Gdgyva got his. Seems like a good investment. If anyone sees AEKara hit him once for me. Tell him it's for driving the price of silver up too high. I'm thinking I'll just keep the bonus in cash for a while. If I see a QE3 announcement, then I'll buy some Eagles regardless of the price. If not, maybe some TZA...
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Apr 4, 2011 11:28:13 GMT -5
A satisfying MSM beatdown featured on CNN:
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Post by resume on Apr 4, 2011 11:47:38 GMT -5
Natura abhorret a vacua
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Apr 4, 2011 14:34:18 GMT -5
I'd like to put the analyst and Frank Q in a room together.
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Post by frankq on Apr 4, 2011 15:30:13 GMT -5
I'd like to put the analyst and Frank Q in a room together. I would like that too. For every analyst you have a different opinion. As a "former" analyst, I would have to ask if he still enjoys the benefits of current intel. I would think that the CIA plays that stuff pretty close to the vest. Opinions are like a-holes. Everyone has one. We'll see what plays out.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Apr 4, 2011 21:11:21 GMT -5
@ sun! Nice find. I especially like the comments, they really get deep. Frankq, the best part of the video is when he says that Islamic democracy is something said to fool slow Americans. You know who else has this point of view?? The communist party of China. They love to use the peaceful middle east authoritarian governments as proof that democracy can't work everywhere. I guess we are just suppose to ignore what's going on in Syria, as well as everywhere else in the world that wants democracy. What's next, do we get this guy talking about how the Chinese don't want democracy??
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Apr 29, 2011 18:17:06 GMT -5
A "two months later" update: verrip's and Frank Q's theory of "student-strengthened populism" looks as though it's absolutely cor... Associated Press: Muslim Brotherhood behind New "Day of Rage": BEIRUT (AP) — The banned Muslim Brotherhood urged Syrians to take to the streets on Friday as activists called for a “Day of Rage” against President Bashar Assad’s regime, which has stepped up its deadly crackdown on protesters by unleashing the army along with snipers and tanks.
The government warned against holding any demonstrations. Syrian state television said the Interior Ministry has not approved any “march, demonstration or sit-in” and that such rallies seek only to harm Syria’s security and stability.
Activists in Syria are planning nationwide protests following Muslim prayers in solidarity with more than 50 people killed in the last week alone in Daraa, a southern city at the heart of the revolt.
Since the uprising in Syria began in mid-March, inspired by revolts across the Arab world, more than 450 people have been killed nationwide, activists say.
Friday’s statement by the Muslim Brotherhood was the first time the outlawed group has openly encouraged the protests in Syria. The Brotherhood was crushed by Assad’s father, Hafez, after staging an uprising against his regime in 1982.
Read More Here... A trifle. "Student-strengthened populism" is nevertheless absolutely corr... CNN World: Energized Muslim Brotherhood in Libya Eyes a Prize (bold by me): As in Egypt and Tunisia, the Brotherhood in Libya has been energized by the sudden upheaval sweeping the Arab world.
It says it has no organizational links with the Brotherhood elsewhere, but shares the philosophy of the pan-Arab Islamist movement founded in Egypt in the 1920s.
Largely drawn from the devout educated middle classes and university campuses in Tripoli and Benghazi, the Libyan Muslim Brotherhood was founded in the mid-1950s.
Islamist opposition to the Libyan regime gathered force in the late 1980s, as part of a wider Islamic awakening or "Sahwa" in the region and in reaction to what many saw as an attempt by Gadhafi to hijack and interpret Islam for his own purposes.
While jihadists launched a brief but unsuccessful campaign to overthrow Gadhafi in the 1990s, the Brotherhood focused much of its efforts on clandestine preaching and social welfare efforts in Libya.
Read More Here... Yes. Yes. Fine. I maintain that "student-strengthened populism", as a theory, is utterly c... The Telegraph: Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links: In an interview with the Italian newspaper Il Sole 24 Ore, Mr al-Hasidi admitted that he had recruited "around 25" men from the Derna area in eastern Libya to fight against coalition troops in Iraq. Some of them, he said, are "today are on the front lines in Adjabiya".
Mr al-Hasidi insisted his fighters "are patriots and good Muslims, not terrorists," but added that the "members of al-Qaeda are also good Muslims and are fighting against the invader".
His revelations came even as Idriss Deby Itno, Chad's president, said al-Qaeda had managed to pillage military arsenals in the Libyan rebel zone and acquired arms, "including surface-to-air missiles, which were then smuggled into their sanctuaries".
Read More Here... Pish tosh! Verrip was absolutely co... The Week: Has the Muslim Brotherhood hijacked Egypt's revolution? (must read) [bold by me]: Egypt's military leaders announced Monday that they would hold parliamentary elections — originally scheduled for June — in September. The delay is being seen as a nod to emerging political groups that had asked for more time to get organized. Nevertheless, well-established Islamist candidates linked to the Muslim Brotherhood are still expected to out-perform their secular counterparts and the Islamist group appears to have become the country's driving political force, replacing the youth activists who started Egypt's revolution. Is the Muslim Brotherhood destined to run Egypt?
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But secular Egyptians are scared: Top U.S. officials (Virgil: Like Verrip and Frank Q) are still upbeat about Egypt's direction, says Bret Stephens in The Wall Street Journal, but "secular Egyptians themselves" are worried. The secular groups that were at the heart of the anti-Mubarek protests urged people to vote "no" in a March referendum on constitutional changes that would pave the way for swift elections. They lost big, with 77 percent of the public voting "yes." Result: Groups that are already organized — the Muslim Brotherhood and the military's political party — are poised to grab power.
Read More Here... Will you please let me finish!The theory of "student-strengthened populism" is absolutely correct. After all, the Muslim Brotherhood does most of its recruiting from university students. So there! Right.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Apr 29, 2011 22:11:57 GMT -5
Oh Virgil you old bear you...
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Apr 30, 2011 2:38:59 GMT -5
Just to make it fair. Hasan Ahmed Abdel Rahman Muhammed al-Banna (Arabic: حسن أحمد عبد الرحمن محمد البنا,Known as Hasan al-Banna (Arabic: حسن البنا was born on October 14, 1906 – February 12, 1949) was a schoolteacher and imam, best known for founding the Muslim Brotherhood, one of the largest and most influential 20th century Muslim revivalist organizations. Al-Banna viewed finance as a weapon which could be used to undermine nonbelievers and ‘‘work toward establishing an Islamic rule on earth.’’ Creating uniquely Islamic financial institutions is supposed to lead to the formation of a financial system to parallel and later supersede the Western economy. The middle east is looking at the PLA (Atheists so the Islamics will never get along with them) getting into game in the middle east. So how did that work out trying to play the finance game with the west? They LIVE off USD. ;D
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Apr 30, 2011 8:00:04 GMT -5
Let's face it. Students are good at one thing politically: fomenting energetic, directionless revolt. But once the dust settles, their ideologies clash, their attention flags, their time and money evaporate.
"Students" are not going to fill a power vacuum. And I think it's only now that the happy, happy, happy US policymakers are realizing how incredibly pro-Western the former African dictatorships were--at least, compared to the new guys.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Apr 30, 2011 21:25:58 GMT -5
LOL, that is so true it sick. I was talking to a friend today and he was telling me about some of the well dressed(designer), white, female, brow coats that were in his bar last night; apparently we just don't understand how peaceful the Islamic religion is, and that Israel needs to go.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Aug 27, 2011 23:49:53 GMT -5
Dug this one up to remind everybody that the Muslim Brotherhood was voted into power in post-revolution Egypt?
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Post by frankq on Aug 28, 2011 8:48:54 GMT -5
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Aug 28, 2011 11:20:51 GMT -5
I consider the operative word to be "February"—the publication date of the article—before the so-called "Arab spring" even began.
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Post by smackdown on Aug 28, 2011 13:20:06 GMT -5
There would be no significant reason for individual investors to be concerned or even interested in keeping the Dow at a particular figure unless they were invested in the Dow and no other stocks. The fact that our market gyrations support the Dow itself and are not indicative of a sector responding to sustained growth or individual stocks demonstrating quality performance based on a sustainable structure or operating method--- absolutely tell us that the markets are fixed and controlled by people, persons or groups like a NEW WORLD ORDER to maintain the numbers as a weapon, not anything remotely associated with national economics or econbomic stability.
There is no reason and no valid argument supporting any other choice but to shut the markets down, collapse the financial sector, reconcile it and set it back in motion with all-new regulation, supervision and divestiture to a level where- no component can mastermind fraud, fail at the level they have or steer us toward collapse-- as banks have repeatedly done throughout the 20th and now into the 21st Century. We don't need banks and we sure as Hell cannot sustain ourselves with grubbers telling businesses what they can and cannot do. Big Business has management-- they are in charge and thus are 100% responsible for what occurs under their management. There are Boards with Directors, these are people who either helped create the business and are recognized by the Founder as valuable-- or possess the assets because they paid cash or mortgaged their assets to obtain them. It should occur to anyone with common sense that what we have now is FAILURE and it has to go for the rest of the globe to reture to natural chaos. No one ever required ORDER, it always comes post-growth as a means for very weak-minded people to usurp power they can neither manage nor use with intelligence or wisdom.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Aug 28, 2011 14:13:28 GMT -5
I wouldn't go so far as to say that these things "absolutely tell us" that there are powerful controlling interests working to fulfill an agenda. But when one starts exploring the etiology of our current economic meltdown, one definitely gets the sense that the collapse is being guided to a specific end.
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