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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 3, 2011 13:09:37 GMT -5
You're kidding, right? This is Islamic hard-liners toppling pro-Western dictators. The particular brand of "freedom" they're bringing in has jihadists in Pakistan celebrating daily, and the Afghani Taliban shouting for joy on Al Jazeera. You have no conception of what you're talking about. There... is just so much wrong... *deep breath* OK. Calm and respectful, Virgil. I will address this particular statement later tonight. Suffice it for now to say it is painfully wrong. In runs contrary to the writings of every last influential globalist of the 19th and 20th centuries, and if you'd read any of their work (as you claimed), you would know this. You wouldn't be coming back with "Buhhhhh... but dey needs people to clean their toilets." Start with Bertrand Russel, and look up "useless eaters". Let's wait for the NFP numbers before we start celebrating, shall we? Further, what good are jobs if they don't provide enough income to feed you? Bernanke's plan to recreate Libya in our own back yard is continuing to work magnificently. It is no surprise that on Charles Ponzi day, the update to food stamp usage indicates that in December those receiving an average of $134 per month has just hit 44.1 million people. These lucky people will soon be able to buy an inflation adjusted 2.3 crumbs of notional bread with this generous handout from the Chairsatan. In other words, America is now the land of the free, home of the brave, of whom 14.3% can't afford to eat, even with all the new jobs created by both the old QE1, Lite and 2, and soon to be 3. Don't forget that according to the Bernank, QE2 has already created 250,000 new jobs... all at the a modest cost of $1.3 million per job.
Have a good day all. (Especially you, Hamburger.)
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Post by Tesla_DC-meme on Mar 3, 2011 13:41:08 GMT -5
Yes, and Rudy Clausius said... "The entropy of the universe tends to a maximum."
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Post by neohguy on Mar 3, 2011 14:03:43 GMT -5
USA said: "Solid employment numbers! "
I wonder if the people that lost full time jobs and now have to work 2 or 3 part time jobs are counted as 2 or 3 new job created?
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Mar 3, 2011 14:46:16 GMT -5
I can't wait Virgil!!! Bring on the globalists, tell me everything I have read! Please explain who is going to do all the work while your at it. With real world explanations as to how this will all work with only the elite left. NO generalities or circumstantial evidence. Keep in mind this... I can't wait to hear from the all mighty himself...
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Post by superintendent552 on Mar 3, 2011 14:56:22 GMT -5
I would use the term "Solid Unemployment Numbers" when there is a net gain, by at least one person. Are the numbers better, yes.
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Post by usaone on Mar 3, 2011 14:56:53 GMT -5
USA said: "Solid employment numbers! " I wonder if the people that lost full time jobs and now have to work 2 or 3 part time jobs are counted as 2 or 3 new job created? And who are those people? Most people are not in that position. If you have a decent education you are fine. If not you may be working more than one job. It was that way before the recession.
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Post by comokate on Mar 3, 2011 15:02:12 GMT -5
Mid, do you have something implanted in your brain that impedes your ability to learn? Kinda like a distortion pedal? I am the furthest from an elite and I know it. That's is why I know that, and this is in response to your comment as well Virgil, that a mass culling of the human population is the last thing that the elite want.. Who will wash their dishes? Do the farming? Clean their toilets? Another reason I know this is all BS.. If people took few college level science classes in physics, biology, pharmacology,computer science, etc. they would realize much of what is being mocked as "crazy" is currently in research, with some products actually in various stages of development, in labs 'round the world. Ever hear of nanobots? Nanotechnology? Are you aware that computer systems are being developed that will be smaller than an infant's eyelash ? That drug delivery to targeted cells, clothing, even neural networks themselves will use nanobots. Like those who insisted in the 1800's that nothing heavier than air could ever fly, could not grasp the concept of nuclear fission as an energy source, could not imagine instantaneous intercontinental communication, the world moves on leaving them behind looking very foolish.
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Post by usaone on Mar 3, 2011 15:05:08 GMT -5
Mid, do you have something implanted in your brain that impedes your ability to learn? Kinda like a distortion pedal? I am the furthest from an elite and I know it. That's is why I know that, and this is in response to your comment as well Virgil, that a mass culling of the human population is the last thing that the elite want.. Who will wash their dishes? Do the farming? Clean their toilets? Another reason I know this is all BS.. If people took few college level science classes in physics, biology, pharmacology,computer science, etc. they would realize much of what is being mocked as "crazy" is currently in research, with some products actually in various stages of development, in labs 'round the world. Ever hear of nanobots? Nanotechnology? Are you aware that computer systems are being developed that will be smaller than an infant's eyelash ? That drug delivery to targeted cells, clothing, even neural networks themselves will use nanobots. Like those who insisted in the 1800's that nothing heavier than air could ever fly, could not grasp the concept of nuclear fission as an energy source, could not imagine instantaneous intercontinental communication, the world moves on leaving them behind looking very foolish. And its that technology that will propel America forward!
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Post by comokate on Mar 3, 2011 15:13:00 GMT -5
If people took few college level science classes in physics, biology, pharmacology,computer science, etc. they would realize much of what is being mocked as "crazy" is currently in research, with some products actually in various stages of development, in labs 'round the world. Ever hear of nanobots? Nanotechnology? Are you aware that computer systems are being developed that will be smaller than an infant's eyelash ? That drug delivery to targeted cells, clothing, even neural networks themselves will use nanobots. Like those who insisted in the 1800's that nothing heavier than air could ever fly, could not grasp the concept of nuclear fission as an energy source, could not imagine instantaneous intercontinental communication, the world moves on leaving them behind looking very foolish. And its that technology that will propel America forward! Not when funding for schools is being cut. Most of our engineering students come from other shores. Don't believe me? Step into one of the engineering classrooms at your local college-
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Post by neohguy on Mar 3, 2011 15:13:09 GMT -5
USA said: "Solid employment numbers! " I wonder if the people that lost full time jobs and now have to work 2 or 3 part time jobs are counted as 2 or 3 new job created? And who are those people? Most people are not in that position. If you have a decent education you are fine. If not you may be working more than one job. It was that way before the recession.[/quote] Unless you're a teacher. But who needs those in the USA?
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Post by usaone on Mar 3, 2011 15:33:51 GMT -5
Teachers are well paid. In my area they can make 74k or more. Plus benefits.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Mar 3, 2011 15:37:32 GMT -5
Kate. If people would take the time to read what a person is saying before making comments, they would save themselves from coming across as foolish and arrogant. I am well aware of what is going on in labs around the world. Most science journals are online, you know? I have started threads, and kman has commented on how they were threads discussing the tech and possible situations of tomorrow. So your entire speech is off base and pointless. Have a nice day. Oh ya Virgil, did you see that the Lybian leader is thinking about accept his buddy Chavez's plan?? You know the pro-west dictator that is falling....... Oh wait. Well there was Iran earlier this week, that guy is defiantly pro-west right?? China, there is a pro-west dictatorship about to fall there... Nkorea?? Oh ya all these places are violently cracking down, and the Pakistani govt is executing anyone who doesn't agree with them.. That's right...
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Post by frankq on Mar 3, 2011 16:50:20 GMT -5
"You're kidding, right?
This is Islamic hard-liners toppling pro-Western dictators. The particular brand of "freedom" they're bringing in has jihadists in Pakistan celebrating daily, and the Afghani Taliban shouting for joy on Al Jazeera."
No, I don't think I'm kidding. Gaddafi is a "pro Western" dictator? Really? And you see the Taliban fighting Gaddafi over there? From what I see in broadcasts, Libyans want to fight this guy alone, with the possible exception of a no fly zone, which, of course, our NATO "allies" will expect to be comprised of 90% Americans and 10% everybody else as usual. It looks to me like people over there have decided they want better, like we have here. I don't see any anti-American protests in Libya or Egypt for that matter, and it sure looked like people over there were going out of their way to keep "pro-Western journalists informed as to the situation too. You guys might want to get at least some of your information from sources other than Alex Jones. You guys can't see anything good coming from this because none of you guys can see anything good coming from anything. Period. I guess this "freedom" movement in the Middle East is just a conspiracy instigated by the big oil companies to drive up prices.
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Post by verrip1 on Mar 3, 2011 17:08:10 GMT -5
You see Aman, some people want to ignore logic in their arguments and instead use deception and diversion.
It must be accepted that some, (not all, just a selected few), theories in the past were ridiculed, yet they came to later be accepted. That does not, not even come close, to 'proving' that all theories now ridiculed will be proven true in the future. THAT is their fallacy. In addition, they try to compare real scientific theory, such as whether the world is flat or whether man can fly to a non-scientific area, this fantasized market domination conspiracy theory. Their inherent comparison of scientific theory to social fantasy tells people all they need to know. Sure, they'll use scientific metrics in their divergences away from the central point, but that, by no means, is a demonstration that their conspiracy theory has any scientific basis.
You see, it's like I noted before, these guys accept NWO not as a conclusion, but as a fundamental precept. All their other conclusions flow from that basic belief. It is a belief like that of a fundamentalist. To them it is an immutable truth.
Of course, you see how they react to criticism. Veiling themselves in vague, gooshy sounding quotations. Rah-rahhing each other. Striking out in anger that unbelievers are 'morons', 'losers', 'sociopaths'. They're acting just like someone called their mothers a bunch of whores. Even Virgil, a mod, so upset that he must post that he has to control himself from striking out at the infidels, the unbelievers who dared to offendeth his eye.
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Post by vl on Mar 3, 2011 17:15:37 GMT -5
And who are those people? Most people are not in that position. If you have a decent education you are fine. If not you may be working more than one job. It was that way before the recession. Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=moneytalk&action=display&thread=4219&page=2#ixzz1FZpbCpzPActually, many of "those" people not only had degrees but went back for more degrees. Degrees are-- useless unless you're in the medical arena or engineering. The rest of us get "educated" throughout life and a degree in the past of any arena does not suggest proficiency as it has evolved. As for "before" the recession... financiers lost their shirts without shorts and insurance compromising Risk and banks put quarterbacks behind desks to keep them from fumbling in the field. Most outstanding performers since the Dawn of Time, earned their way there. Today, you invest the cost of an outrageous tuition at a brand name college and your alumni connection gets you a corner office. You seem to be wearing REALLY dark glasses, the world is a toilet that big business has filled with so much diarrhea it cannot flush. Sooner than you think, it will seep into your office where you will have no choice but to deal with it. A prayer-- may you then have no voice to declare at it but great eyesight to stare at it.
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Post by vl on Mar 3, 2011 17:16:21 GMT -5
And who are those people? Most people are not in that position. If you have a decent education you are fine. If not you may be working more than one job. It was that way before the recession. Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=moneytalk&action=display&thread=4219&page=2#ixzz1FZpbCpzPActually, many of "those" people not only had degrees but went back for more degrees. Degrees are-- useless unless you're in the medical arena or engineering. The rest of us get "educated" throughout life and a degree in the past of any arena does not suggest proficiency as it has evolved. As for "before" the recession... financiers lost their shirts without shorts and insurance compromising Risk and banks put quarterbacks behind desks to keep them from fumbling in the field. Most outstanding performers since the Dawn of Time, earned their way there. Today, you invest the cost of an outrageous tuition at a brand name college and your alumni connection gets you a corner office. You seem to be wearing REALLY dark glasses, the world is a toilet that big business has filled with so much diarrhea it cannot flush. Sooner than you think, it will seep into your office where you will have no choice but to deal with it. A prayer-- may you then have no voice to declare at it but great eyesight to stare at it. By the way Virgil... GREAT description of the Middle East crisis.
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Post by vl on Mar 3, 2011 17:18:27 GMT -5
And who are those people? Most people are not in that position. If you have a decent education you are fine. If not you may be working more than one job. It was that way before the recession. Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=moneytalk&action=display&thread=4219&page=2#ixzz1FZpbCpzPActually, many of those 2-3 job people not only had degrees but went back for more degrees. Degrees are-- useless unless you're in the medical arena or engineering. The rest of us get educated throughout life and a degree in the past of any arena does not suggest proficiency as it has evolved. As for the recession... financiers lost their shirts without shorts and insurance compromising Risk and banks put quarterbacks behind desks to keep them from fumbling in the field. Most outstanding performers since the Dawn of Time, earned their way there. Today, you invest the cost of an outrageous tuition at a brand name college and your alumni connection gets you a corner office. You seem to be wearing REALLY dark glasses, the world is a toilet that big business has filled with so much diarrhea it cannot flush. Sooner than you think, it will seep into your office where you will have no choice but to deal with it. A prayer-- may you then have no voice to declare at it but great eyesight to stare at it. By the way Virgil... GREAT description of the Middle East crisis.
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Post by vl on Mar 3, 2011 17:19:17 GMT -5
And who are those people? Most people are not in that position. If you have a decent education you are fine. If not you may be working more than one job. It was that way before the recession. Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=moneytalk&action=display&thread=4219&page=2#ixzz1FZpbCpzPActually, many of those 2-3 job people not only had degrees but went back for more degrees. Degrees are-- useless unless you're in the medical arena or engineering. The rest of us get educated throughout life and a degree in the past of any arena does not suggest proficiency as it has evolved. As for the recession... financiers lost their shirts without shorts and insurance compromising Risk and banks put quarterbacks behind desks to keep them from fumbling in the field. Most outstanding performers since the Dawn of Time, earned their way there. Today, you invest the cost of an outrageous tuition at a brand name college and your alumni connection gets you a corner office. You seem to be wearing REALLY dark glasses, the world is a toilet that big business has filled with so much diarrhea it cannot flush. Sooner than you think, it will seep into your office where you will have no choice but to deal with it. A prayer-- may you then have no voice to declare at it but great eyesight to stare at it. By the way Virgil... GREAT description of the Middle East crisis.
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Post by frankq on Mar 3, 2011 17:31:47 GMT -5
"By the way Virgil... GREAT description of the Middle East crisis."
LOL! Only you guy could see people fighting for a better life as a crisis. As far as education, that is your price of admission. Whether you get to stick around and actually learn how to do your job is up to you.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 3, 2011 18:08:15 GMT -5
Gaddafi has been more than accommodating to Western business interests. He has been labeled by the US as a "chief cooperator" in efforts against Al Qaeda. He sanctioned the construction of several Libyan NATO air force bases. He was utterly despised by one Osama bin Laden, and in fact has blamed Al Qaeda for the uprising. As for the Taliban, yes they did fight against Mubarak. Yes, there were celebrations in the streets of Lahore and Karachi when Mubarak "resigned". And yes, both dictators (Mubarak and Gaddafi) were labeled "the enemies of Islam" by the current insurgency in western Pakistan. I'm not saying that either dictator is any better than say, Saddam Hussein, but your comments about "blossoming freedom" resounds with the same hollow optimism of the "greeted as liberators" rhetoric from 2003. It's taken a decade-long occupation, hundreds of thousands of troops, and hundreds of billions of dollars for Iraqi "freedom" to blossom--and even the freedom there remains tenuous. Industrial-strength ignorance offends me. It's a vice. I admit it. "The elite oppose depopulation" is to Virgil as "white people are superior" is to Verrip. Incidentally, reply #49 could be readily shortened to "No, Virgil, I've never actually read any of the listed globalist literature." to save on precious electronic bits. Global warming, don't you know. If you can cite one post where I've referred to any board member as "moron", "loser", "sociopath", or "infidel", or even a reasonable synonym, I will change my av to "I AM A CHEESEHEAD" for a day.
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Post by frankq on Mar 3, 2011 18:52:56 GMT -5
Yes, he sucked up to the U.S. to save himself. In the process, he abandoned his quest for nukes. I am not seeing Taliban control of Egypt. No doubt, the Taliban would like to assert control all over the Mid East. Some token fighting was a good look for them, but there wasn't much fighting going on in Egypt. If you're trying to call it a war, your off base. Hollow optimism? Not at all. When the youth of a country band together in a common cause, great things can happen. I've seen it in the late '60's and '70's here. It looks like the same thing is occuring there. Mubarak saw the light and stepped down when it became apparent that the military would support the people. Gaddafi, no doubt, is trying to firm up his "travel" plans since most of his military isn't backing him. My guess is that he'll end up with his buddy in South America, for a small fee of course. There are many enemies of Islam Virgil. And your point is? You guys only see the cloud surrounding the silver lining. 65 years ago, Japan was a mortal enemy. Today there is an even chance that you drive a car that they build and we are their ally and largest trading partner. 50 years ago, we were worried that Russia would launch nuclear attacks. As a kid, we had air raid drills. Now, Russia is but a shadow of itself and they are lobbying for American investment. 40 years ago, we were fighting in Viet Nam. Today we are one of their biggest trading partners. 35 years ago, we were told that China was a bigger threat than Russia was. Today we buy everything from them and they buy food and vehicles from us. GM is number one in China. Ford sells a ton. If they get their way, they'll be selling cars here. We are their biggest trading partner. That's the difference between you guys and us. We have optimism, because of our life experience and positive mindset. We've seen what is possible.
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Post by kman on Mar 3, 2011 18:55:35 GMT -5
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Post by midwesterner (banned) on Mar 3, 2011 19:28:36 GMT -5
This message has been deleted by rovo.
Stop the personal attacks.
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Post by midwesterner (banned) on Mar 3, 2011 20:08:30 GMT -5
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Post by rovo on Mar 3, 2011 20:15:05 GMT -5
Mid, You are entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to moderate the board.
Take a day off from the boards and think about whether or not you want to continue posting on these boards. If you do want to continue posting, then you better cease and desist with the attacks on other posters.
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Post by Tesla_DC-meme on Mar 3, 2011 20:22:16 GMT -5
Excellent post FrankQ. Very cool.
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Post by frankq on Mar 3, 2011 20:24:19 GMT -5
Thanks tesla! Have some K!
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Post by verrip1 on Mar 3, 2011 20:26:52 GMT -5
Well, I won't spend much energy on this one, but I thought there was a three strike rule, and this ... person ... already had two strikes. All for the same infraction. Obviously, my understanding was wrong.
Rovo, might you clarify what the rule is? I have no interest in pressing the point, just understanding it. By PM if you find that more appropriate for my desire not to press the issue.
Thanks.
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Post by usaone on Mar 3, 2011 20:29:40 GMT -5
And who are those people? Most people are not in that position. If you have a decent education you are fine. If not you may be working more than one job. It was that way before the recession. Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=moneytalk&action=display&thread=4219&page=2#ixzz1FZpbCpzPActually, many of "those" people not only had degrees but went back for more degrees. Degrees are-- useless unless you're in the medical arena or engineering. The rest of us get "educated" throughout life and a degree in the past of any arena does not suggest proficiency as it has evolved. As for "before" the recession... financiers lost their shirts without shorts and insurance compromising Risk and banks put quarterbacks behind desks to keep them from fumbling in the field. Most outstanding performers since the Dawn of Time, earned their way there. Today, you invest the cost of an outrageous tuition at a brand name college and your alumni connection gets you a corner office. You seem to be wearing REALLY dark glasses, the world is a toilet that big business has filled with so much diarrhea it cannot flush. Sooner than you think, it will seep into your office where you will have no choice but to deal with it. A prayer-- may you then have no voice to declare at it but great eyesight to stare at it. You have good people and bad people today. You have good companies and bad companies today. When was it any different? 4o years ago most people didn't even consider going to college. When was it better V_L?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 3, 2011 20:36:57 GMT -5
Uh huh. You asked me to justify my concerns over the African revolutions and I did. Am I saying it's completely impossible for democratic, pro-western attitudes (rather than Islamic fundamentalism) to prevail in the nascent republics? No. Unlikely, but not impossible. There is no immutable law that makes me right and you wrong. Dare I point out, though, that my viewpoint leaves me ample room to be pleasantly surprised, while yours leaves you ample room to be sorely disappointed.
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