The Wacky World Of NWO Market Conspiracy

[verrip1]

Actually, these discussions all have a similar schism.

Some people think that there is no chance for the people to succeed over the entrenched (sometimes imaginary) centralized control structure, whereas others think that the people have the potential to make significant inroads into breaking the real, identifiable control structures.

Ironic? People who identify themselves with liberal attributes support central control. People who identify themselves with populist attributes support individual freedoms. It has been that way for some time, but the liberals have had a very successful marketing and indoctrination campaign to muddy these clear waters.

Some want to give up and accede to their fatalistic view of the inevitable. Others want to push to succeed.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

You see that too? Glad to hear it. I always laugh when I hear lefty brown coats talk about liberty through government, and how great places like Cuba and Venezuela and Iran are.

[Virgil Showlion]

They have killed at least 30 people, and arrested at least 300 in the last two rallies alone.

Is it a stretch to compare the two nations?

It's a matter of degrees. Even with 11% Congress approval rate, consecutive "million man marches" on Washington, violent scuffles between union and anti-union demonstrators, men shooting up congress meet n' greets, men flying airplanes into IRS headquarters, "flag burning day", radio personalities declaring to vast audiences that they want the presidency to fail, I would still consider the US to be a stable republic.

If you want to make a distinction between that and Iran, you'll need a lot more than 30 deaths and 300 arrests. Heck, Canada pulled off a few deaths, a few riots, and a few hundred arrests during the G20 last year.

Virgil they tried to assassinate Amidajaba last summer.

And they're putting away would-be Obama assassin nutters every two months in the US. The major difference being that the US spends hundreds of billions on homeland security to preempt such attacks. They end up as footnotes on page F-32. "The FBI intercepted some nutter on his way to the DNC..."

I guess you didn't here they increased their US Treasury holdings by 30% last year.

...and have been unloading again for the last five consecutive months. Which... was my point.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

...and have been unloading again for the last five consecutive months. Which... was my point.

No your point has been discredited, now your trying to twist things to fit the US death march. 30% y-o-y. The Socialists were wrong again. China DID NOT reduce UST holding last year.

I know how much you like you tube videos



Meanwhile we are deciding on the marriage issue.

Thank you for proving my point that people will go as far as saying that Iran and the US are one in the same to try and prove that we are controlled.

[dumdeedoe]

10 years ago: Ok I have a plan I want to wipe out Americas middle class. So I will spend billions in ultra secret research and use cell phones and vaccinations and chem trails to wipe out all of them..
Then I will let immigrants come in a work on the cheap to replace them..
It will be like a global forced retirement program for the over in titled. MAHAHAHHAah......

Present day: Drats, new thousand dollar research has proven that all I needed to do is invent the Frito pie and computer games and they would all eat themselves to death.........

[Virgil Showlion]

I imagine that if Frito pie was more successful in preventing people from reproducing before they died of heart failure, funding priorities might have changed. Cell phones and chemtrails have never featured in this discussion. My views on vaccinations are given in reply #87, which you evidently didn't read.

No your point has been discredited, now your trying to twist things to fit the US death march. 30% y-o-y.

I read on WFT that China's Treasury holdings have declined for five months; I comment "it's no secret that China is unloading US Treasuries". It isn't.

Thank you for proving my point that people will go as far as saying that Iran and the US are one in the same to try and prove that we are controlled.

Hopefully our audience will exercise greater diligence in keeping track of what I've said.

The issue is whether Iran is a stable republic. I have claimed that it is. You have offered "30 deaths; 300 arrests" as proof otherwise. I have pointed out that this is hardly of a revolutionary magnitude, and is comparable to the present unrest in the US--which I also believe is a stable republic.

Furthermore, the Iran issue is part of a side discussion Frank Q and I are having on revolutionary attitudes in Arab nations. It has nothing to do with the NWO or "prov[ing] we are controlled".

[vl]

NWO and the "controlled" aspect is-- the fact that none of the "jobs" created in the past several months offer life-sustaining wages or were won by middle-aged folks.

[verrip1]

Mar 8, 2011 13:33:37 GMT -5 @vl said:

NWO and the "controlled" aspect is-- the fact that none of the "jobs" created in the past several months offer life-sustaining wages or were won by middle-aged folks.

[frankq]

LOL !

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Hopefully our audience will exercise greater diligence in keeping track of what I've said.

Mar 7, 2011 2:37:34 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Is it a stretch to compare the two nations?

It's a matter of degrees. Even with 11% Congress approval rate, consecutive "million man marches" on Washington, violent scuffles between union and anti-union demonstrators, men shooting up congress meet n' greets, men flying airplanes into IRS headquarters, "flag burning day", radio personalities declaring to vast audiences that they want the presidency to fail, I would still consider the US to be a stable republic.

If you want to make a distinction between that and Iran, you'll need a lot more than 30 deaths and 300 arrests. Heck, Canada pulled off a few deaths, a few riots, and a few hundred arrests during the G20 last year.

And they're putting away would-be Obama assassin nutters every two months in the US. The major difference being that the US spends hundreds of billions on homeland security to preempt such attacks. They end up as footnotes on page F-32. "The FBI intercepted some nutter on his way to the DNC...

Furthermore, the Iran issue is part of a side discussion Frank Q and I are having on revolutionary attitudes in Arab nations.

Since Q is laughing because you obviously didn't' take the time to watch the video after I laid this bit of bait out there for you..

You have offered "30 deaths; 300 arrests" as proof otherwise.

Here is some light reading Virg.

Iranian Kurdish Parties Call For Uprising
www.rudaw.net/english/news/iran/3489.html

The wave of protests currently engulfing the Middle East has reached Iran, prompting the Iranian Kurdish opposition parties to call on the Kurds in the country to rise up against the Islamic regime in Tehran.

Iran's Women Remain Outspoken Despite Crackdown:
www.rferl.org/content/iran_womens_feature_/2331785.html

Iran's disappeared:
www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2011/0309/1224291665221.html

Responding to calls from parliament for their arrest and execution – MPs chanting in unison “Mousavi, Karroubi should be hanged!” – the authorities had put the two men and their wives under “complete” house arrest after anti-government protests on February 14th, the first such demonstration for a year. Now they have vanished, like other extrajudicial “disappeared”, presumably into the black hole that is the brutal Iranian prison system.

Iranian Moderate Loses Key Position:
online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704758904576188050369176360.html

The activists say Iran's vibrant women's rights movement is facing increased pressure from the government. President Ahmadinejad's government has branded their demand for equality a threat to national security.

Add that in with the you tube videos with public executions being handed out. Those are some degrees your talking about Virg. I guess the Ayatollah will be happy to hear that some in the west view Iran as stable as a republic as the USA.

[verrip1]

Can't comment on Virgil's posts. That would make me subject to further threats for 'mod bashing'.

[Virgil Showlion]

Time will tell, Hammy.

Care to make a little wager? Put a date on when you think Ahmadinejad will resign the Iranian presidency?

After all, the clock must be ticking with the mighty Kurdish parties calling for the end of Islamic law in Tehran. (Did they even feature in the 2009 election? Oh, that's right. Nobody ever heard of them. )

You're attempting to point out how Iran is politically unlike the US. You're succeeding in pointing out how practiced they are at silencing opposition.

So you want to put your karma where your mouth is? A month? Three? The end of 2012? When is Iran going to be the next domino to fall?

Can't comment on Virgil's posts. That would make me subject to further threats for 'mod bashing'.

When have I ever criticized anyone for 'mod bashing' when they commented on my post?

[kman]

to me ...The Iranian leadership already failed...It's about support now

[verrip1]

Are you trying to bait me? Sorry, I've been around too much for that. Try somebody else. Board rules are board rules - any one exhibited by one mod I expect from all the others. As should all other posters.

[Virgil Showlion]

Whatever floats yer boat.

[verrip1]

I'm only dealing with what has been done in the last 24 hours. I won't get trapped into saying anything further, except that posters now must fear anything they post. A really touchy-feely kind of thing for all of us.

That's the signal for you to tell me how I can leave anytime I want.

[rovo]

Put a date on when you think Ahmadinejad will resign the Iranian presidency?

I think it is highly unlikely he will still be president by the end of this year.

[Virgil Showlion]

I'm a pretty laissez-faire mod. I'll have to read through your posts from today to figure out what you're talking about.

As far as I know, admin considers "mod bashing" to be instances where a mod takes an action, somebody complains, the mod asks the plaintiff to complain in private, and the plaintiff disregards the order. That, or somebody saying, "Virgil, you're an idiot.", which a) has never happened, and b) would only be "mod bashing" if 'idiot' pertained to some moderating decision.

I agree that personal attack rules should be consistent, and I'm sure the other mods wouldn't want me to ignore blatant personal attacks directed at me.

That said, if you want to assert, "Virgil, your statements about Iran show your utter ignorance of the magnitude of these populist movements. It's a shame how little you know.", you're certainly welcome to. Just don't expect me to give a toot unless you include specific criticisms. You can keep a copy of this post and use it as a "Virgil told me I could." if you're scolded for mod bashing.

Something like, "Another typically idiotic statement from Virgil." would get deleted, because of the consistency issue I mentioned earlier plus the fact that "Another typically idiotic statement from verrip." would also get deleted.

Finally, if I do something you don't like and ask you not to gripe about it publicly, then yes I do expect you not to gripe about it publicly and no it isn't up for debate. Have I ever asked this from anyone? No.

Unless I'm signing my name - Virgil (Mod), treat me the same way as you'd treat any other poster.

[Virgil Showlion]

I think it is highly unlikely he will still be president by the end of this year.

Ha. Rovo's got the guts.

I'll take that bet. Gentleman's bet. I may not like Ahmadinejad, but he won a 2009 election with a convincing majority. That alone sets Iran miles apart from Libya and Egypt.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Virgil, to speculate on something like that is impossible. kman put it best in post #140.

Sharia law is failing. Will the crazy basted used his bomb? Who knows. It would be a fitting end to WW3. Amidabgaba is consolidating power, and has shut off the outside world. Hitler did the same thing at the end as well.

China needs the ME and Africa more than we do now. We are helping them more than anyone wants to admit. They are trying to stave off a civil war, stability in that region is more key to them than anyone. They will have to help if the situation doesn't resolve itself in a timely manner. In doing so, the commies will have sealed their fate to and early grave.

The bottom line is that FREE ENTERPRISE is where we are heading. It is the most profitable and successful way to build a society, and until some Alien race finds us or we find an Alien race that has a better way of doing things, Free enterprise is here to stay!! Unless you have a way we can do it without money Virgil.

[frankq]

"I'll take that bet. Gentleman's bet. I may not like Ahmadinejad, but he won a 2009 election with a convincing majority. That alone sets Iran miles apart from Libya and Egypt. "

Well, I don't know how much stock I would put in Iran's "official" election results, but I don't think the guy is going anywhere soon, or easily.

[vl]

Nothing is going to happen in Iran. They will continue along the same course toward the original goal. Notably, since WE started challenging them, WE have fallen apart. There is probably a better chance of Bush Sr going to jail by year end then Ahmadinejad.

Did you hear Obama say that indigenous oil production has been the best since 2003? He said it like-- "you paid $4/gallon in 2003, why freak out when it hits $4 again now?" The proper response would have been... "there has been massive New World Order since 2003 and most people can't take more crap from you guys... recover our jobs or get the Hell out of America. Iran doesn't want you either!"

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

there has been massive New World Order since 2003 and most people can't take more crap from you guys

Just since 2003?? Well that's new.. How about a little explanation there V_L.

[vl]

Ask anyone in Wisconsin. They're STILL trying to figure out WHO voted the clown governor and puppet Congress into Office. Word is-- no one knows ANYONE who voted GOP in the last election. Impeachment and vote inspection should prompt a correction... or will the actions be suppressed by the NEW WORLD ORDER?

[frankq]

Yeah, the NWO has decided that Wisconson is the epicenter of the thrust for World Domination.......

[decoy409]

Well V_L, I will not do the homework for others so they can go out and claim that they are.
However I will share with old Frank Q. the following that has been intriguing before it happened,when it happened and the trail making it all the more interesting all along in this 2min and 3 sec. informative clip that includes that 'Congress Moment',.

Quote: Oliver North Questioned - Rex 84 Exposed During Iran Contra

[frankq]

I watched the videos. Nothing "intriguing" here. Only more "conspiracy".

[decoy409]

I am laughing so hard right now at the comment you just made above Frank Q.

You see I am laughing hard and I should not be. I am laughing as to how laxed and uneducated or 'slacked' that so many have become,and you are one of those.

Now you have really put yourself on the line by using that word. I don't use that 'c' word.
Let me explain. In order for you to have any type of formal understanding of how that clip came to be and world affairs you would have really needed to be hitting the books your whole life. And you have just made it apparent that you have no desire for knowledge and have '0' knowledge outside of that in which you do which is your everyday job of what, 'heating and cooling.'
I see no further reason to mix words with you as you are uneducated however just remember three things, 'Faith,Hope,Love' and apply those to all you know. In turn it matters not what you know, or do not know, and you will be just fine. Of course those 3 must be produced by and through you with 'Honesty.'

Have a nice day Frank Q. I am headed to the outdoors.

Quote by Frank Q.: I watched the videos. Nothing "intriguing" here. Only more "conspiracy".

Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=moneytalk&action=display&thread=4219&page=6#ixzz1GPLTZIHE

as to (2min. 3 sec.),

Quote: Quote: Oliver North Questioned - Rex 84 Exposed During Iran Contra



Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=moneytalk&action=display&thread=4219&page=6#ixzz1GPLdO45i

[frankq]

"I see no further reason to mix words with you as you are uneducated"

And I see nothing of what you see in the videos because 1) "reality" is more than a concept to me, unlike you guys, and 2) you don't explain the connection. Again, because I disagree, I am uneducated? The usual fallback position of those whose views cannot stand on substance. You reponded to comments about the NWO's role in Wisconson (made by V.L. interestingly, it just keeps getting better and better) with Oliver North? And you didn't use the "c" word? No, I guess not....technically.......

[vl]

Wisconsin is a Great Lake state, Frank. The Great Lakes contain 20% of all the fresh water in the world. Far more valuable than gold or oil. Wiping out collective bargaining rights and suppressing wages until teachers can't afford to work IS New World Order. The original appeal to Texas was OIL. Now that a shift away is inevitable, garbage humans with dark genes wish to migrate to the next great commodity.

I suspect that none of us who stayed here will be willing to let NWO take control without a fight.