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Post by swamp on Sept 2, 2014 15:20:26 GMT -5
It's killing DFs ex that she can't garner attention about DFs heart transplant. Bio brat waited til I went to the bathroom to ask DF if her mom could come up and bring him ice cream. I told DF that if I had walked into that room and she was there, that'd I'd be walking out on hiim, period. DF says he told bio to go down herself and get the ice cream. Now, all of a sudden, EXs latest story is that they need to get together and discuss their real estate holdings because she doesn't understand them. This is after her email that she can't meet with him about bio brats wedding because it hurts her too much. La di da. What a performance. I told DF he can meet with his EX whenever he wants, as long as he brings the other partner in the real estate holdings with him. Since she really doesn't have any questions but its a ploy, this will fix her wagon. After all, they are silent partners to the other guy so he'd be the logical person to answer any questions she might have. I thought it rather clever way to handle her. She'd move heaven and earth to get him back now that her married boyfriends dumped her. JFC, just let her bring ice cream. It's not like he's gonna go home with her.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 2, 2014 15:21:42 GMT -5
It's in the freezer here at the hospital. I'm sure it's already forgotten by him.
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Post by cronewitch on Sept 2, 2014 16:13:08 GMT -5
We know a lot of men think of women/their kids as cars--they trade them in for newer models all the time, with about as much regret. True. Women and men can be equal opportunity idiots, though. I've seen catting around go both ways. One place I used to work had so much of it going on, it should have been classified as its own red light district. And when I say "going on" I mean on and off the premises. A good friend of mine's wife left him for what she thought was the proverbial better model; a man she'd been seeing for about a year, unbeknownst to my friend. Better model dumped her when she showed up at his door, suitcases in hand and ready for the committment. Turns out he wasn't looking to buy again, just interested in a rental. Old alcoholic receptionist took a vacation and met the love of her life. They spent the vacation in love with him saying he wished she lived there. She comes home, quits job and moves where he was. Surprise, he didn't really love her, not letting her move in. She moves back and wanted the boss to recommend her for a job and he said not unless she stopped drinking.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Sept 2, 2014 16:18:25 GMT -5
True. Women and men can be equal opportunity idiots, though. I've seen catting around go both ways. One place I used to work had so much of it going on, it should have been classified as its own red light district. And when I say "going on" I mean on and off the premises. A good friend of mine's wife left him for what she thought was the proverbial better model; a man she'd been seeing for about a year, unbeknownst to my friend. Better model dumped her when she showed up at his door, suitcases in hand and ready for the committment. Turns out he wasn't looking to buy again, just interested in a rental. Old alcoholic receptionist took a vacation and met the love of her life. They spent the vacation in love with him saying he wished she lived there. She comes home, quits job and moves where he was. Surprise, he didn't really love her, not letting her move in. She moves back and wanted the boss to recommend her for a job and he said not unless she stopped drinking.That was it? That was his only request? He's a forgiving guy. I'd have requested that in addition to quitting the bottle, she quit hitting on men who say silly things to her.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 16:30:36 GMT -5
IMO, men that cheat, do it because they can. That's it. It's not that difficult for a married man find a woman willing to be his side chick, whether he's honest and tells her that's all he wants or misleads her to get what he wants. And a lot of married men have wives that are willing to look the other way or live in denial to keep their husband. So they do it because they can.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 2, 2014 16:36:25 GMT -5
It's killing DFs ex that she can't garner attention about DFs heart transplant. Bio brat waited til I went to the bathroom to ask DF if her mom could come up and bring him ice cream. I told DF that if I had walked into that room and she was there, that'd I'd be walking out on him, period. DF says he told bio to go down herself and get the ice cream. Now, all of a sudden, EXs latest story is that they need to get together and discuss their real estate holdings because she doesn't understand them. This is after her email that she can't meet with him about bio brats wedding because it hurts her too much. La di da. What a performance. I told DF he can meet with his EX whenever he wants, as long as he brings the other partner in the real estate holdings with him. Since she really doesn't have any questions but its a ploy, this will fix her wagon. After all, they are silent partners to the other guy so he'd be the logical person to answer any questions she might have. I thought it rather clever way to handle her. She'd move heaven and earth to get him back now that her married boyfriends dumped her. Your DF is in the hospital after having a heart transplant and THIS is what you focus on? Who cares if she were to bring him some ice cream? If you are secure in your relationship there is absolutely nothing she can gain by coming to visit. I don't do well with jealousy or crazy statements (I will leave and never come back if she comes in)...treat him with the respect he deserves and trust that the man you love will do the right thing. If you can't trust him, he isnt' worth having around.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 2, 2014 16:37:46 GMT -5
I've just had it with her drama. Bio does the same thing. I have enough on my plate without their performances.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 2, 2014 16:39:38 GMT -5
I've just had it with her drama. Bio does the same thing. I have enough on my plate without their performances. Actually, I think your DF has enough on his plate without YOUR performance or drama. Seriously, think of what that man has gone through...does it ever occur to you that the world doesn't actually revolve around you?
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 2, 2014 16:41:16 GMT -5
Not very often.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 2, 2014 16:42:08 GMT -5
Your DH seriously but be a saint.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 2, 2014 16:43:40 GMT -5
Yes
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 2, 2014 16:44:54 GMT -5
You should marry him while he is still in his weakened state! I would be afraid that once he gets a second shot at life, he might take a long hard look at how you treat him and RUN...God knows I would
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 2, 2014 16:45:55 GMT -5
You done now?
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 2, 2014 16:55:08 GMT -5
No. Are you?
I am honestly just amazed that you can't see how you treat him. the last thing on my mind if my husband just had major surgery, let alone a transplant, would be weather some crazy ex brought him ice cream. I certainly wouldn't bring it up to the man recovering from major surgery.
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Post by achelois on Sept 2, 2014 17:03:24 GMT -5
We know a lot of men think of women/their kids as cars--they trade them in for newer models all the time, with about as much regret. True. Women and men can be equal opportunity idiots, though. I've seen catting around go both ways. One place I used to work had so much of it going on, it should have been classified as its own red light district. And when I say "going on" I mean on and off the premises. A good friend of mine's wife left him for what she thought was the proverbial better model; a man she'd been seeing for about a year, unbeknownst to my friend. Better model dumped her when she showed up at his door, suitcases in hand and ready for the committment. Turns out he wasn't looking to buy again, just interested in a rental. I have often said the same thing: I would never buy again, just rent (not even interested in a lease). just wanted hoops to know the comparison wasn't offensive.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 2, 2014 19:04:02 GMT -5
No. Are you?
I am honestly just amazed that you can't see how you treat him. the last thing on my mind if my husband just had major surgery, let alone a transplant, would be weather some crazy ex brought him ice cream. I certainly wouldn't bring it up to the man recovering from major surgery.
Oops...I meant whether...
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Post by nutty on Sept 2, 2014 19:26:06 GMT -5
You know I was going to make a comment that this wife didn't look the other way and left but I may have to eat my words someday.
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Post by ZaireinHD on Sept 2, 2014 20:55:52 GMT -5
IMO, men that cheat, do it because they can. That's it. It's not that difficult for a married man find a woman willing to be his side chick, whether he's honest and tells her that's all he wants or misleads her to get what he wants. And a lot of married men have wives that are willing to look the other way or live in denial to keep their husband. So they do it because they can. I was about to post similar
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Sept 3, 2014 8:37:08 GMT -5
True. Women and men can be equal opportunity idiots, though. I've seen catting around go both ways. One place I used to work had so much of it going on, it should have been classified as its own red light district. And when I say "going on" I mean on and off the premises. A good friend of mine's wife left him for what she thought was the proverbial better model; a man she'd been seeing for about a year, unbeknownst to my friend. Better model dumped her when she showed up at his door, suitcases in hand and ready for the committment. Turns out he wasn't looking to buy again, just interested in a rental. I have often said the same thing: I would never buy again, just rent (not even interested in a lease). just wanted hoops to know the comparison wasn't offensive. Same here. I enjoy my marriage (well, most days, when he does the honey-do list and all ), but once is enough. Heck, I might even do a weekly rental, not even a month-to-month deal, if I found myself alone again.
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Post by hoops902 on Sept 3, 2014 9:00:02 GMT -5
IMO, men that cheat, do it because they can. That's it. It's not that difficult for a married man find a woman willing to be his side chick, whether he's honest and tells her that's all he wants or misleads her to get what he wants. And a lot of married men have wives that are willing to look the other way or live in denial to keep their husband. So they do it because they can. I don't know about that. I can. I don't. So there's clearly more of a reason than that.
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Post by nutty on Sept 3, 2014 9:06:52 GMT -5
Just an observation, I wonder if women that engage in this behaviour with men have poor impulse control. I never, ever flirt with someone I know is in a relationship and I keep my hands to myself (okay we are going to bar those men who don't say that they are married) I was at karaoke last night and I saw several women get very up close and personal with a male, when then GF was out of sight. What was really funny was the two facing going on, as soon as the GF showed back up all hands and touching and closeness stopped. So they are aware they are aware (the women) that what they are doing is not quite kosher and then the men get off on the attention.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 3, 2014 9:58:16 GMT -5
Just an observation, I wonder if women people that engage in this behaviour with men have poor impulse control. fixed.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Sept 3, 2014 13:27:38 GMT -5
IMO, men that cheat, do it because they can. That's it. It's not that difficult for a married man find a woman willing to be his side chick, whether he's honest and tells her that's all he wants or misleads her to get what he wants. And a lot of married men have wives that are willing to look the other way or live in denial to keep their husband. So they do it because they can. I don't know about that. I can. I don't. So there's clearly more of a reason than that. LOL! There is. She wasn't all that. I still get hit on but I wouldn't want them even if I were single. But it's still nice now and then to know you aren't gross yet. One was a much younger guy. He kept winking at me when I was at the beach. I think he was about 5. But boy was he cute!
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Sept 3, 2014 14:12:09 GMT -5
I don't know about that. I can. I don't. So there's clearly more of a reason than that. LOL! There is. She wasn't all that. I still get hit on but I wouldn't want them even if I were single. But it's still nice now and then to know you aren't gross yet. One was a much younger guy. He kept winking at me when I was at the beach. I think he was about 5. But boy was he cute! You meanie. Did you kick sand on his lollipop and knock down his sand castle?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 14:38:32 GMT -5
IMO, men that cheat, do it because they can. That's it. It's not that difficult for a married man find a woman willing to be his side chick, whether he's honest and tells her that's all he wants or misleads her to get what he wants. And a lot of married men have wives that are willing to look the other way or live in denial to keep their husband. So they do it because they can. I don't know about that. I can. I don't. So there's clearly more of a reason than that. I said men that cheat (and I was really thinking of habitual cheaters) do it because they can. I didn't say all men cheat.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 14:44:01 GMT -5
I don't know about that. I can. I don't. So there's clearly more of a reason than that. I said men that cheat (and I was really thinking of habitual cheaters) do it because they can. I didn't say all men cheat. I think you're missing hoops point. He can too but he hasn't become an habitual cheater. So there must be something else that makes them different from him.
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Post by hoops902 on Sept 3, 2014 15:24:58 GMT -5
I don't know about that. I can. I don't. So there's clearly more of a reason than that. I said men that cheat (and I was really thinking of habitual cheaters) do it because they can. I didn't say all men cheat. You're saying they do it BECAUSE they can. I'm saying I CAN, but I don't. Therefore, "they can", must not be the actual cause of why they cheat. It may help, but there must be something else. For your statement to be true, those that "can", would.
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Post by hoops902 on Sept 3, 2014 15:40:49 GMT -5
::Of the men who cheat, they do it because they can.::
I disagree. They do it for one reason (or maybe a variety of reasons), none of which are "because they can".
::She didn't say "All men cheat because they can"... there is a distinct difference.::
The ONLY difference in that logic is the recognition that some men can't (which frankly, I think is flawed, because anyone "can" cheat).
Essentially, the entire logic is one big copout. Everyone who does something does it because they can. I drive a car, because I can. I walk down the street, because I can. Of course if I can't, I don't. None of those are reasons WHY i do that thing...just as "they can" is not a reason any man in the history of the world has ever cheated.
::Of the men who cheat, they do it because they can.::
Of anyone who does anything...they can. That's ability, not causation. And frankly, assigning ability as causation only hurts relationships and places blame where it doesn't belong. Don't want your man to cheat? Just don't let him! Not how it works.
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Post by hoops902 on Sept 3, 2014 16:17:11 GMT -5
::Seriously, there is no "good" reason to cheat::
There's no GOOD reason, but there's almost definitely a reason they do it.
I also don't think we're saying the same thing. I think the original point was that whether you can get away with it primarily drives whether you do it. I disagree wholeheartedly actually. I think lots of people do it without any real reason to believe they're going to get away with it.
Frankly, for a lot of people it's probably the thrill of trying to do something and perhaps being caught...but hoping you won't be.
::Then you are free to do whatever you want with whomever you please. ::
Not sure if you mean this, but do you think it's ok to have sex with married people if you're single?
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Post by cktc on Sept 3, 2014 16:55:04 GMT -5
I find cheaters feel less than in some way, project their issues onto others, lack personal accountability, and require excessive external validation.
And most people think the betrayed cause, or allow, their spouses to cheat because they can’t fathom a world where being cheated on is outside their control.
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