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Post by swamp on Aug 21, 2014 11:22:08 GMT -5
The Look works better on my DH than my kids
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Post by yogiii on Aug 21, 2014 11:22:30 GMT -5
What parents have perfected THE LOOK? How effective was it? It appears I have (well, if DD isn't actually looking at me I have to clear my throat to get her attention). She's not a teen yet, so I'm not sure how much longer it will last. It also works on DH. As stated before, follow through is important. THE LOOK warns them that momma isn't happy, and we all know that if momma isn't happy - the no one is happy! You controlling *&*^$^
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Post by yogiii on Aug 21, 2014 11:22:52 GMT -5
The Look works better on my DH than my kids Another one!
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Post by michelyn8 on Aug 21, 2014 11:29:30 GMT -5
oh dear lord, that sounds like way too much work. it's much easier for me to hold their hands when needed and wait until they are old enough to understand what it means to run into the street. Two down, one to go. If I wanted to have a dog and train a dog, I would have gotten a dog. And while Pavlov's method is certainly withheld the test of time, somehow I never thought to apply it to my kids And there is NOTHING that my little kids can do that I would withhold a hug from them. NOTHING!! I'm with whoisjohngalt here. I understand the need for consistency, etc. but 9 times out of 10 when I was loading my kids into the car, we were on limited time and there just would not have been time to sit them down in a time out. Plus when you're the only adult with more than one child, you'd have to take supervision away from the other children while sitting with the child being punished. Waiting to punish later is not a good idea with really young children because they are more likely to forget what they did wrong and not understand why they are being punished. As for the yanking of a leash and letting them fall on their butt - what about when they continue to fall backwards and bang their head? We tried a leash with DGD when she was first walking but it didn't last long. Like I mentioned before she started running as soon as she found her feet and the constant tugging to keep her close created to many situations where she could have more than her pride hurt for my comfort.
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Post by Firebird on Aug 21, 2014 11:59:29 GMT -5
Personally, I don't like the idea of leashes for kids. I understand why they're necessary in certain situations (I think I mentioned my friend with the nightmare toddler - she was planning to use a leash on him for their big family trip to Italy and I can totally understand why it would be necessary with a known runner/disobedient child in a foreign country) but for the most part I think it's better to treat kids like people, not puppies. Not that I have anything against puppies (well, I do but that's another story ).
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 21, 2014 12:27:56 GMT -5
Even my dog trainer said yanking on leashes doesn't work, it doesn't train them to obey you. It trains them to obey the leash because that's what is choking them. Once off leash all bets are off.
We tried a leash once on Gwen at the State Fair. She went into an alligator death roll. We drew a crowd before I could get the thing off her. We've found what works on her is making her sit in the stroller if she doesn't listen. She's at that age where she wants to be fairly independent from us and she can't do that when confined. She did really good this year, it only took a handful of times plopping her back in the stroller for her to get she sticks with mommy/daddy.
"Smooshed squirrel" works for the street. We live on a very busy street and I am always paranoid she'll get away from me. One day there was a dead squirrel in the street so I took her over to look at and I said "see that, that's you if you let go of mommy's hand when crossing the street".
I drilled that into her head every time we crossed the street and she seems to have grasped it. It was also effective to get her to buckle her booster seat. I told her if she didn't and we got in a wreck she'd fly thru the windshield and she said "I'd become a smooshed squirrel?" I said yes. She no longer fights buckling her car seat. I plan on getting as much mileage out of that dead squirrel as I possibly can!
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Post by chapeau on Aug 21, 2014 13:43:37 GMT -5
I love my daughter's leash. I'm sorry, it's a monkey backpack with a really long tail, not a leash. She asks for her backpack when we walk to day care in the morning. (it's only a couple of blocks from our house.) She recognizes that she gets a certain amount of independence when she's wearing it, but she's still close to me. She is little (so am I), and her holding my hand is hard on her. I don't want to walk around all day with 1 arm up in the air, why would she? We have to cross 1 very busy street on our walk, and she generally still wants to be carried, but her backpack is a huge help. We do use it when she goes other places, as well, but in unfamiliar circumstances she's still more prone to hold a hand, with or without the pack. And we did notice that she was more prone to toddling off and getting a yank (accidental, usually) when she was younger, but now that she's 28 months old, she's very well leash trained. She did ask me one time, if I was "walking her", the day after she went along on a walk with my sister's dog. I told her she was very perceptive, but Ginny walks that way to keep her safe, and Mommy does the same thing with you to keep you safe. She accepted it. I should increase my therapy savings fund, shouldn't I?
DQ, I love the smooshed squirrel. How old was Gwen when you told her that?
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 21, 2014 14:03:18 GMT -5
DQ, I love the smooshed squirrel. How old was Gwen when you told her that
She was around 3 years of age when I told her that. Then afterwards every time we'd go to cross I'd ask her "What happens if you let go of mommy's hand?"
"I get smooshed like a squirrel"
It was a lot more effective than other methods I was trying. Even not being able to see grandma wasn't a big enough deterrent (she's so much like my brother it's scary)
So when I saw a dead run-over thing in the road I decided to take the opportunity to give her a visual of what I was talking about.
She's also got a weird fixation on zombies. Whenever I tell her not to do something dangerous she'll ask me "Then I be dead and turn into zombie?" YES! Yes you will! Then she doesn't do it anymore. I'm not sure how much longer that's going to work.
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Post by chapeau on Aug 21, 2014 15:14:11 GMT -5
I really love the squirrel -- she sees them constantly near our house (doggone pin oak trees!), and loves them. I'll have to wait a few months, though. She hasn't really grasped the "mommy can't fix everything" or "sometimes if you throw it away you can't get it back" concepts. I'm guessing smooshed squirrel will go in the "mommy fix it!" category. If only real life were like Scooby Doo cartoons
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Post by tskeeter on Aug 21, 2014 18:00:41 GMT -5
What is it with the younger kids anyway? I know Swamp struggles with attitude from her younger DD, my younger DD can drive me bonkers pretty quickly, beerwench had problems with her DD too, MPL's younger DS is having issues... Makes me think parenting second kids is doomed Hmm --- seems that there are two common characteristics involved here. So, maybe it's not being the second child. After all, I am the second child in my family. And I was an angel child. An angel teenager. An angel young adult. And am obviously an angel adult.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 21, 2014 19:12:31 GMT -5
My second was a challenge, too. I thought it was because she was a girl but my former sister-in-laws had boys for their second and said number two was a challenge as well. The lady that does my nails sometimes has her girls in the salon as school hasn't started yet. First one is this quiet little angel, second one, whew!!
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Post by nutty on Aug 21, 2014 20:43:58 GMT -5
My second (a girl) was a challenge too and still is.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Aug 22, 2014 13:03:56 GMT -5
Both my kids are easy. Parenting is still challenging, don't get me wrong, but nothing like some of the stories posted here.
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