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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Aug 12, 2014 9:57:43 GMT -5
what is a Platinum wedding? A very expensive wedding that costs as much as rare metals do.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 9:58:26 GMT -5
what is a Platinum wedding? A very expensive wedding that costs as much as rare metals do. is Zib paying for it? if not, I don't see why she's all in a tizzy about it.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Aug 12, 2014 10:00:49 GMT -5
A very expensive wedding that costs as much as rare metals do. is Zib paying for it? if not, I don't see why she's all in a tizzy about it. Zib's finance is the one with the money. It's his daughter, who hates Zib and doesn't much like Daddy either. She just wants the money.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 10:04:04 GMT -5
is Zib paying for it? if not, I don't see why she's all in a tizzy about it. Zib's finance is the one with the money. It's his daughter, who hates Zib and doesn't much like Daddy either. She just wants the money. well then he needs to learn the word no.
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Post by Angel! on Aug 12, 2014 10:05:00 GMT -5
you guys crack me up it wasn't as dramatic as you are probably imagining. It really could have been posted to the thread, it wasn't that big of a deal. I will say that I think when you have someone that can nicely express honest, heartfelt concern, then you have a friend who cares about you. I YM. It is nice when you don't have anyone to vent to IRL & to be able to come here & have a bunch of people in your corner. And FWIW, I have ignored him & not responded to anything since I started this thread I did look it up though & he has trial on the 18th. It is almost guaranteed he will go to jail (IMO). If he leaves the state before then, there will be a warrant & he pretty much can never come back. Although, wouldn't the warrant extend to other states? So if he gets pulled over in TX, they will just extradite him & send him right back? So it would be extremely stupid to help him leave the state by buying a bus ticket even though I want him gone, correct? Just trying to think through what it means if he leaves like he says he wants to.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Aug 12, 2014 10:07:06 GMT -5
Zib's finance is the one with the money. It's his daughter, who hates Zib and doesn't much like Daddy either. She just wants the money. well then he needs to learn the word no. Apparently that's one of his problems. I think he's working on it but he's one of the people who shows love via money so that's what the daughter knows.
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Post by midjd on Aug 12, 2014 10:07:46 GMT -5
If he leaves on his own before his trial - not your problem. But definitely don't help him.
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Post by swamp on Aug 12, 2014 10:08:24 GMT -5
you guys crack me up it wasn't as dramatic as you are probably imagining. It really could have been posted to the thread, it wasn't that big of a deal. I will say that I think when you have someone that can nicely express honest, heartfelt concern, then you have a friend who cares about you. I YM. It is nice when you don't have anyone to vent to IRL & to be able to come here & have a bunch of people in your corner. And FWIW, I have ignored him & not responded to anything since I started this thread I did look it up though & he has trial on the 18th. It is almost guaranteed he will go to jail (IMO). If he leaves the state before then, there will be a warrant & he pretty much can never come back. Although, wouldn't the warrant extend to other states? So if he gets pulled over in TX, they will just extradite him & send him right back? So it would be extremely stupid to help him leave the state by buying a bus ticket even though I want him gone, correct? Just trying to think through what it means if he leaves like he says he wants to. depends on what the trial is for. For example, this county will extradite all over the country for felonies, but misdemeanors only in nearby counties.
But in NYC, some guy had an assault felony, was caught up here, and they wouldn't come get him. Completely depends on the jurisdiction and severity of the charge.
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Post by Angel! on Aug 12, 2014 10:12:59 GMT -5
It really could have been posted to the thread, it wasn't that big of a deal. I will say that I think when you have someone that can nicely express honest, heartfelt concern, then you have a friend who cares about you. I YM. It is nice when you don't have anyone to vent to IRL & to be able to come here & have a bunch of people in your corner. And FWIW, I have ignored him & not responded to anything since I started this thread I did look it up though & he has trial on the 18th. It is almost guaranteed he will go to jail (IMO). If he leaves the state before then, there will be a warrant & he pretty much can never come back. Although, wouldn't the warrant extend to other states? So if he gets pulled over in TX, they will just extradite him & send him right back? So it would be extremely stupid to help him leave the state by buying a bus ticket even though I want him gone, correct? Just trying to think through what it means if he leaves like he says he wants to. depends on what the trial is for. For example, this county will extradite all over the country for felonies, but misdemeanors only in nearby counties.
But in NYC, some guy had an assault felony, was caught up here, and they wouldn't come get him. Completely depends on the jurisdiction and severity of the charge.
Hmmm. Where would a DUI (his second), driving without a license, driving an uninsured vehicle, and driving an unregistered vehicle fall on the severity scale? I'm guessing that probably doesn't warrant an extradition because it is all just traffic charges. Careless driving may have been in there as well because he said there were 5 charges.
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Post by swamp on Aug 12, 2014 10:14:20 GMT -5
depends on what the trial is for. For example, this county will extradite all over the country for felonies, but misdemeanors only in nearby counties.
But in NYC, some guy had an assault felony, was caught up here, and they wouldn't come get him. Completely depends on the jurisdiction and severity of the charge.
Hmmm. Where would a DUI (his second), driving without a license, driving an uninsured vehicle, and driving an unregistered vehicle fall on the severity scale? I'm guessing that probably doesn't warrant an extradition because it is all just traffic charges. Careless driving may have been in there as well because he said there were 5 charges. In NY, a 2nd DWI is a felony, and driving on a license suspended/revoked for DWI while drunk is a felony, so our country would go get him. I don't know about other counties.
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Post by swamp on Aug 12, 2014 10:15:00 GMT -5
If he does leave, you know he will stay away because there will be a warrant out for him.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Aug 12, 2014 10:15:37 GMT -5
I think that's very specific to your state Angel. Here, it would be a fine and probation. Or at least it did about 10 years ago when a coworker's son was doing those things. Although I think he was driving her car so it was most likely registered (not sure about insured, she was always short on money and credit)
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 12, 2014 10:18:56 GMT -5
I have to laugh about this wedding. It seems the VENUE, surprise surprise, is sucking up most the money and the food is going to be fairly second rate. It just gets better and better. There aren't enough rooms for even the guests they think will attend and they're sending out the A invites first and hoping for a 80 per cent acceptance rate before they send out the B and C list. 275 people on the A list! We are now at 55k and there's no dress, flowers, photographer, DJ/band.
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Post by Angel! on Aug 12, 2014 10:21:46 GMT -5
I think that's very specific to your state Angel. Here, it would be a fine and probation. Or at least it did about 10 years ago when a coworker's son was doing those things. Although I think he was driving her car so it was most likely registered (not sure about insured, she was always short on money and credit) He got offered 30 days in jail when he went to court. He declined & is set for a jury trial on the 18th. I'm not really sure how he thinks he will get off. Whether or not he can prove the accident was another vehicle's fault, he was still drunk when it happened. Not my problem now though. It is so awesome to watch & realize I don't care what happens. And FWIW, all this happened after we split.
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Post by Angel! on Aug 12, 2014 10:22:04 GMT -5
I have to laugh about this wedding. It seems the VENUE, surprise surprise, is sucking up most the money and the food is going to be fairly second rate. It just gets better and better. There aren't enough rooms for even the guests they think will attend and they're sending out the A invites first and hoping for a 80 per cent acceptance rate before they send out the B and C list. 275 people on the A list! We are now at 55k and there's no dress, flowers, photographer, DJ/band. Holy Crap! And your DF is ok with paying for all this?
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Post by swamp on Aug 12, 2014 10:24:09 GMT -5
I think that's very specific to your state Angel. Here, it would be a fine and probation. Or at least it did about 10 years ago when a coworker's son was doing those things. Although I think he was driving her car so it was most likely registered (not sure about insured, she was always short on money and credit) He got offered 30 days in jail when he went to court. He declined & is set for a jury trial on the 18th. I'm not really sure how he thinks he will get off. Whether or not he can prove the accident was another vehicle's fault, he was still drunk when it happened. Not my problem now though. It is so awesome to watch & realize I don't care what happens. And FWIW, all this happened after we split. Yeah, even if he was sitting at a stop sign and got rear ended, he was still drunk. And didn't have a license. And didnt' have insurance.
Train wrecks are spectacular to watch from afar.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 12, 2014 10:28:12 GMT -5
Nope. Princesses mommy is giving her 10k, she says, but she is a pathological liar so who knows and she did give her the engagement ring that DF bought her because Princesses fiancé couldn't afford to give her the ring she wanted. The EX feels the "children" ages 27 and almost 27 with well paying jobs, shouldn't pay for any of their wedding. DF SAYS he is okay with giving her 12,500 but that the "children" need to come up with the rest. He hasn't told his Princess this yet because he has been waiting for her to ask about his health and in general, pretend she cares long enough to get her wedding check. That doesn't seem to be happening the way he thought it would. It's sad and ugly.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Aug 12, 2014 10:28:59 GMT -5
I think that's very specific to your state Angel. Here, it would be a fine and probation. Or at least it did about 10 years ago when a coworker's son was doing those things. Although I think he was driving her car so it was most likely registered (not sure about insured, she was always short on money and credit) He got offered 30 days in jail when he went to court. He declined & is set for a jury trial on the 18th. I'm not really sure how he thinks he will get off. Whether or not he can prove the accident was another vehicle's fault, he was still drunk when it happened. Not my problem now though. It is so awesome to watch & realize I don't care what happens. And FWIW, all this happened after we split. Yeah, coworker's son turned 21 in jail for drinking and driving. Got to court and was released with a fine and probation. Rinse and repeat for the next few years with coworker defending him as misunderstood and having some kind of disability (ADD?) and add in Wisconsin's relaxed views of drinking and driving = something like 6+ "second" violations. And he can't get a license until he pays the fines so he just keeps on driving anyway. Sorry, obviously I have strong feelings about this family and their stupidity and other issues. I'm stopping now before I REALLY start to spew.
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Post by Angel! on Aug 12, 2014 10:29:24 GMT -5
Nope. Princesses mommy is giving her 10k, she says, but she is a pathological liar so who knows and she did give her the engagement ring that DF bought her because Princesses fiancé couldn't afford to give her the ring she wanted. The EX feels the "children" ages 27 and almost 27 with well paying jobs, shouldn't pay for any of their wedding. DF SAYS he is okay with giving her 12,500 but that the "children" need to come up with the rest. He hasn't told his Princess this yet because he has been waiting for her to ask about his health and in general, pretend she cares long enough to get her wedding check. That doesn't seem to be happening the way he thought it would. It's sad and ugly. This also sounds like it will be a spectacular train wreck!
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 12, 2014 10:33:20 GMT -5
I'm glad it's not my family. My ex had people so money hungry they couldn't wait for relatives to die to inherit. My own ex MIL stole from her own kids after her mother died. Tore up the will that left half to MIL and half to her children so she died "intestate" and it all went to MIL. In her mind her kids would get it eventually so that was okay. Trouble is she pissed it all Away and now my ex and his brother are supporting her. I wonder if they would if they knew the truth. She told me one time when she was drunk because the other son supporting her raised the question about why didnt they inherit the house like grandma said they were going to?
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Post by yogiii on Aug 12, 2014 11:40:56 GMT -5
That's quite the secret you know!
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Aug 12, 2014 11:49:03 GMT -5
A second DUI conviction in Florida:
Fines of $1,000 to $2,000. For BAL of .15 or higher, or a minor in the car, minimum $2,000 to $4,000.
Jail time of not more than 9 months. A BAL of .15 or higher, or driving with a minor in the car, will require up to 12 months. If it's your 2nd conviction in 5 years, a mandatory jail sentence of 10 days will be required.
Vehicle impoundment for 30 days (if a 2nd conviction in 5 years).
Driver license revoked for 5 years (if it's your 2nd conviction in 5 years). You may be eligible to apply for a hardship license after 1 year.
Still basically a misdemeanor, though. Not a felony until the third conviction. Is your XH out on bond, Angel? If he does not show up for court while on bond, the bondsman will want his money back, and will go after him. If your ex posted his own bond, then he will lose the money, and there will be a warrant issued. Your county may go after him, but not as a priority.
Wherever he winds up, he will always have to watch his back. If he gets pulled over, or tries to renew or replace his license, or obtain auto insurance, or buy a car or other vehicle, or do anything that results in a driver's license check, the warrant will come up. Many employers are now running DL checks for this reason.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 12, 2014 11:48:57 GMT -5
I know. There have been times when I've wanted to share it but I never do and probably never will. I also have the lawyers name who wrote up the grandmas will so I do have proof.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 12, 2014 11:49:31 GMT -5
MIL was drunk when she told me so she doesn't remember that she did.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Aug 12, 2014 11:51:37 GMT -5
I know. There have been times when I've wanted to share it but I never do and probably never will. I also have the lawyers name who wrote up the grandmas will so I do have proof. Doesn't the lawyer keep a copy? So he/she has one in their files?
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Aug 12, 2014 11:53:02 GMT -5
I have to laugh about this wedding. It seems the VENUE, surprise surprise, is sucking up most the money and the food is going to be fairly second rate. It just gets better and better. There aren't enough rooms for even the guests they think will attend and they're sending out the A invites first and hoping for a 80 per cent acceptance rate before they send out the B and C list. 275 people on the A list! We are now at 55k and there's no dress, flowers, photographer, DJ/band. Zib, with all his health issues, DF really needs to step away from this stress. Part of me wishes he could go to the wedding, but a bigger, more realistic part says maybe he needs to rethink it, including the money. Not that he needs the money, but he needs to maintain his sanity and serenity more.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Aug 12, 2014 11:55:19 GMT -5
I have to laugh about this wedding. It seems the VENUE, surprise surprise, is sucking up most the money and the food is going to be fairly second rate. It just gets better and better. There aren't enough rooms for even the guests they think will attend and they're sending out the A invites first and hoping for a 80 per cent acceptance rate before they send out the B and C list. 275 people on the A list! We are now at 55k and there's no dress, flowers, photographer, DJ/band. Zib, with all his health issues, DF really needs to step away from this stress. Part of me wishes he could go to the wedding, but a bigger, more realistic part says maybe he needs to rethink it, including the money. Not that he needs the money, but he needs to maintain his sanity and serenity more. Nancy - I think the real argument is which will he regret MORE - going to the wedding or not going? Or maybe it's continuing contact vs stopping contact. Either way, it's not an easy or painless decision to make.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 12, 2014 11:55:31 GMT -5
I would assume so. But my ex BIL wouldn't even know the lawyer to ask and now it has been a long time ago. I have the lawyers name in my jewelry box. When my ex MIL told me what she had done I was still married to her son. No way would I have rocked the boat. But from time to time after the divorce, I've thought of doing just that. Maybe I will pretend to be drunk at DDs wedding and tell him then? Doubtful but one never knows. I may jus mention the lawyers name in front of my ex MIL and ask if she still uses him? With a very sweet smile.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 12, 2014 11:59:23 GMT -5
I think he should go but without me. He won't consider it. I'm staying out of it at this point. I don't even comment on the sadness of her behavior and the trashiness of a venue that is so la di da that more than half of her family will be very uncomfortable. Her moms side of the family has NO money at all and being there will be like lipstick on a pig for them. They can't even afford to spend the night so the ex I suppose will be paying for hotel rooms for all her family and there's a ton of them.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 12, 2014 12:00:09 GMT -5
I know DF will be paying for his aunt and cousins rooms because they can't afford it either. The rooms are several hundred dollars a night.
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