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Post by ArchietheDragon on Aug 12, 2014 12:01:33 GMT -5
I know. There have been times when I've wanted to share it but I never do and probably never will. I also have the lawyers name who wrote up the grandmas will so I do have proof. Doesn't the lawyer keep a copy? So he/she has one in their files? You don't need a lawyer to write up a will.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 12, 2014 12:02:14 GMT -5
Well, they used one. I sure wouldn't chance it without one.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Aug 12, 2014 12:02:41 GMT -5
Zib, with all his health issues, DF really needs to step away from this stress. Part of me wishes he could go to the wedding, but a bigger, more realistic part says maybe he needs to rethink it, including the money. Not that he needs the money, but he needs to maintain his sanity and serenity more. Nancy - I think the real argument is which will he regret MORE - going to the wedding or not going? Or maybe it's continuing contact vs stopping contact. Either way, it's not an easy or painless decision to make. True. I was looking at it from the health perspective...how much stress can he handle, is it worth it, will it do him more harm than good, etc. If the DD was at least willing to make an effort at honest contact and communication, rather than seeing him as a piggy bank, I'd be saying go for it 100%. But no amount of money, it seems, will buy the heart of this princess. I'd hate to see him make himself sicker hoping and waiting for her to realize that family means more than money.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Aug 12, 2014 12:07:18 GMT -5
I would assume so. But my ex BIL wouldn't even know the lawyer to ask and now it has been a long time ago. I have the lawyers name in my jewelry box. When my ex MIL told me what she had done I was still married to her son. No way would I have rocked the boat. But from time to time after the divorce, I've thought of doing just that. Maybe I will pretend to be drunk at DDs wedding and tell him then? Doubtful but one never knows. I may jus mention the lawyers name in front of my ex MIL and ask if she still uses him? With a very sweet smile. Not a lot of good it would do now. if she has no money left, they can't get any money from her.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 12, 2014 12:07:33 GMT -5
I know. It's sad but there's nothing I can do about it. They all were raised by their mother and DF was just the bank. So they all are money grubbers. Even he laughs about the fact that they all think they inherit upon his death, what they don't know is that they have to wait for me to die as well. I intend to live a VERY long time. So long that they will be too old to appreciate the inheritance. Unless they can use it for their nursing home care.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 12, 2014 12:08:34 GMT -5
I would assume so. But my ex BIL wouldn't even know the lawyer to ask and now it has been a long time ago. I have the lawyers name in my jewelry box. When my ex MIL told me what she had done I was still married to her son. No way would I have rocked the boat. But from time to time after the divorce, I've thought of doing just that. Maybe I will pretend to be drunk at DDs wedding and tell him then? Doubtful but one never knows. I may jus mention the lawyers name in front of my ex MIL and ask if she still uses him? With a very sweet smile. Not a lot of good it would do now. if she has no money left, they can't get any money from her. True, but they are supporting her now. I wonder if they still would? I'm sure she wouldn't like for the entire family to know what she did.
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Post by Angel! on Aug 12, 2014 12:19:24 GMT -5
A second DUI conviction in Florida: Fines of $1,000 to $2,000. For BAL of .15 or higher, or a minor in the car, minimum $2,000 to $4,000.
Jail time of not more than 9 months. A BAL of .15 or higher, or driving with a minor in the car, will require up to 12 months. If it's your 2nd conviction in 5 years, a mandatory jail sentence of 10 days will be required.
Vehicle impoundment for 30 days (if a 2nd conviction in 5 years).
Driver license revoked for 5 years (if it's your 2nd conviction in 5 years). You may be eligible to apply for a hardship license after 1 year.Still basically a misdemeanor, though. Not a felony until the third conviction. Is your XH out on bond, Angel? If he does not show up for court while on bond, the bondsman will want his money back, and will go after him. If your ex posted his own bond, then he will lose the money, and there will be a warrant issued. Your county may go after him, but not as a priority. Wherever he winds up, he will always have to watch his back. If he gets pulled over, or tries to renew or replace his license, or obtain auto insurance, or buy a car or other vehicle, or do anything that results in a driver's license check, the warrant will come up. Many employers are now running DL checks for this reason. Not out on bond. He was never arrested, ended up in an ambulance & spent several days in the hospital needing surgery. When I went to visit I told the nurses that he is a drug addict & has no where to live & no one to take care of him. Also mentioned he had been admitted as a John Doe less than 48 hours earlier due to a drug OD, which somehow was not in their system. I was worried because he kept telling me he was getting out that day even though he literally could not walk. In the end they refused to release him unless I was willing to sign him out & agree to care for him for at least 24 hours. He threw a damn fit when I said no. Turned out he was convinced that if he stayed that he was going to be arrested, not sure if that would have happened. So got his "friend" (the one that left him at the lake when he OD'ed, awesome friend) to pick him up. He left AMA & as a result got no pain meds. Which was both good and bad. Good since he is a druggie. Bad since I can't imagine the pain in trying to get around literally 3 days after surgery when you broke both bones in your lower leg, one so bad that it required a metal plate & like 17 screws to put back together. At the time he somehow believed that I was going to take him back & care for him because now he needed help. Nope. So glad this all happened after I dumped his ass because it would have been much harder to kick out someone seriously injured. The best was when he told me the accident was my fault because if we were still together & I was a good wife that took care of him, then he would have been at home with me instead of out roaming the streets and partying at all hours of the night. Hmmmm. He clearly has a different memory of our relationship than I do. I recall many night where he was out partying despite me wanting him to be home with me and the kids.
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Post by sesfw on Aug 12, 2014 12:19:26 GMT -5
275 people on the A list! We are now at 55k and there's no dress, flowers, photographer, DJ/band.
Dang ...... that is a lot of funds.
The only close to huge wedding I went to was at least 50 years ago and the marriage lasted less than a year. The parents were still paying for things when the couple split.
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Post by Angel! on Aug 12, 2014 12:20:13 GMT -5
I know. It's sad but there's nothing I can do about it. They all were raised by their mother and DF was just the bank. So they all are money grubbers. Even he laughs about the fact that they all think they inherit upon his death, what they don't know is that they have to wait for me to die as well. I intend to live a VERY long time. So long that they will be too old to appreciate the inheritance. Unless they can use it for their nursing home care. I like your plan!
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Post by Angel! on Aug 12, 2014 12:23:30 GMT -5
Arghh! Now he emailed requesting pics of the kids. Do I send him some? Doesn't seem like an unreasonable request, but undoubtedly is asking because I ignored his other emails.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Aug 12, 2014 12:28:14 GMT -5
Oh dear. We have a man with a serious problem here. It's called shit for brains. No one to blame but himself for his issues, but gosh dang it, he'll find someone to hang his problems on, if it's the last thing he does. Glad you know about the leg injury. Worst case scenario, you can kick him in that leg, if you need to. It's already a weak spot, so if you nail it right, he'll drop like a rock. I'm not kidding; you may need to defend yourself sometime, and it's handy to know where to inflict the most damage. his crap on his new doorstep, or give it away. You.are.done.with.him.Amen.
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Post by swamp on Aug 12, 2014 12:28:12 GMT -5
Arghh! Now he emailed requesting pics of the kids. Do I send him some? Doesn't seem like an unreasonable request, but undoubtedly is asking because I ignored his other emails. Send him pictures but don't say anything.
That way, if he complains in court you won't respond to him, you can show you respond to inquiry about the kids.
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Post by greeniis10 on Aug 12, 2014 12:28:39 GMT -5
275 people on the A list! We are now at 55k and there's no dress, flowers, photographer, DJ/band.
Dang ...... that is a lot of funds.
The only close to huge wedding I went to was at least 50 years ago and the marriage lasted less than a year. The parents were still paying for things when the couple split. I can't believe she hasn't bought a dress yet?! How much time is left? I forget when the date is, so maybe she has time, but I'm just shocked the princess hasn't made a whole production of dressing shopping, like they do on TV. Full entourage in tow, of course.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 12:29:10 GMT -5
I'm going to say yes, send him pictures. you want to appear that you are not withholding the kids from him or trying to interfere in their relationship - you never know what may happen in the future if he files for custody or some such thing.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Aug 12, 2014 12:30:40 GMT -5
Nope. Princesses mommy is giving her 10k, she says, but she is a pathological liar so who knows and she did give her the engagement ring that DF bought her because Princesses fiancé couldn't afford to give her the ring she wanted. The EX feels the "children" ages 27 and almost 27 with well paying jobs, shouldn't pay for any of their wedding. DF SAYS he is okay with giving her 12,500 but that the "children" need to come up with the rest. He hasn't told his Princess this yet because he has been waiting for her to ask about his health and in general, pretend she cares long enough to get her wedding check. That doesn't seem to be happening the way he thought it would. It's sad and ugly. So are they going to be able to come up with $35k+ for the wedding they are planning or is DF going to end up paying for it, or are they going to have to downgrade?
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Aug 12, 2014 12:31:04 GMT -5
Arghh! Now he emailed requesting pics of the kids. Do I send him some? Doesn't seem like an unreasonable request, but undoubtedly is asking because I ignored his other emails. No. Hell no. He's looking for a crack in your armor. Where the fuck was he when he could have taken photos or been offered photos before now? Out partying his sorry ass off? With another woman? Ignore the requests. Block the emails. The request is not coming from a reasonable person. It's not the request itself; it's the manipulation factor.
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Post by mollyanna58 on Aug 12, 2014 12:31:05 GMT -5
I know. There have been times when I've wanted to share it but I never do and probably never will. I also have the lawyers name who wrote up the grandmas will so I do have proof. Doesn't the lawyer keep a copy? So he/she has one in their files? Even if the lawyer has a copy, Grandma could have torn up the original herself.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 12:32:09 GMT -5
I just need to get this off my chest & hopefully be told I am not a huge bitch. I just am at the point where I am trying to move on & not keep bringing up my ex IRL, so you all get to hear it. He is being a manipulative jerk (IMO) & I shouldn't let it get to me, but it does. I think he is doing it in an effort to try to bring me back to him...I don't know, maybe he doesn't know. But a few weeks back he makes this big show about leaving town & needing to say goodbye to the kids...that night. Then claims he is too busy to say goodbye after I pick up the kids early from school just to see him, luckily I never said anything to them about seeing him. The whole thing was so weird though I wasn't sure he left. Found out last weekend that a neighbor saw him the other day, so he didn't leave. Then heard from him a few days later....I love you and the kids so much, I just couldn't leave, changed my mind...blah blah blah. Now I am getting emails about having court on the 18th, getting kicked out of my place, have no money, etc, etc. Thought he was gearing up to ask me if he could come back...super annoyed by this. Almost every email also mentions possibly wanting a bus ticket to TX, which I said I would do a long time ago for him. I know that is spending money on him, but it also gets him the hell away from me. Then the emails change...found a woman to live with, she gives me her car, I take care of her kids, now I need to pick up all my tools & X, Y, Z from the house so I can fix up her place. This is where maybe I am being a bitch - he says I am. I said no. The reason I said no is a few months back he suddenly went nuts one day about needing ome of his stuff....calling, texting, accusing me of intentionally keeping him from his stuff. Prior to this he had come over probably a dozen times to pick up stuff & also brought a moving truck & some guys one time, so in no way had I kept him from his stuff. I was working that day & he threatened to go the house when I wasn't home. Finally when I got off work I offered him $100 if he could get everything he wanted in the next 4 hours & never bother me again. He picked up NOTHING, but took the $100 & literally said he didn't want anything & would just buy new stuff. I felt a little stupid, but now that is why I am not letting him get anything...I did tell him if he repays the $100 he can get stuff, but otherwise we had a deal. So according to him I am being a bitch. Now I am getting emails about how he doesn't want to be with this woman, wants me back misses me, cries all the time, can't work, has ruined everything. Then they turn to how much she likes him & how awesome he is with her kids & the kids love him & how he is completely fixing up her house & doing everything for her. Then he calls me selfish for not wanting to be with him because now the kids can't have their dad around everyday & my selfishness is ruining my kids lives. Ok, sorry ridiculously long rant, but this has been building in me for a month now. I am just so sick of being manipulated. It just feels like he just keeps trying to poke me from different angles to get me to bite. I almost wrote a huge long response to the selfish comment, but decided it would be better to rant on here than even respond. I don't know if I can reasonably just cut off contact because he is still the kid's father & could have legitimate reasons to contact me. Plus, if I can get him on a bus the hell outa here, that would make my life a lot less stressful. All these manipulative comments may seem ridiculous to an outsider or when looking back at them, but it's amazing how they can wear on you when it's all you hear day in and day out. You hear things enough, you can start to believe it.
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Post by The Captain on Aug 12, 2014 12:32:24 GMT -5
Arghh! Now he emailed requesting pics of the kids. Do I send him some? Doesn't seem like an unreasonable request, but undoubtedly is asking because I ignored his other emails. No. Don't let him get his foot in the door. If he wanted to see what his kids looked like he'd actually spend time with them. (Yes, I have no problem being a bitch, and own it proudly!)
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Aug 12, 2014 12:33:16 GMT -5
Arghh! Now he emailed requesting pics of the kids. Do I send him some? Doesn't seem like an unreasonable request, but undoubtedly is asking because I ignored his other emails. Send him pictures but don't say anything.
That way, if he complains in court you won't respond to him, you can show you respond to inquiry about the kids.
Actually, how about a compromise? Make photo prints and put them in the boxes of his crap in the basement. Tell them the photos are in there, and he'll have to take his stuff out of the house in order to get the photos.
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Post by sesfw on Aug 12, 2014 12:33:41 GMT -5
I like the idea one person mentioned for you.
Get another email addy (a free one) for him only and tell him that any emails to your present addy will be deleted without reading. Then have a friend go through all emails from him at the new addy and tell you about anything important. Keep everything at a business level.
Good luck
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Post by swamp on Aug 12, 2014 12:35:34 GMT -5
Send him pictures but don't say anything.
That way, if he complains in court you won't respond to him, you can show you respond to inquiry about the kids.
Actually, how about a compromise? Make photo prints and put them in the boxes of his crap in the basement. Tell them the photos are in there, and he'll have to take his stuff out of the house in order to get the photos. I understand the urge to fight back, but they're his kids too, even if he's useless. If he asks for a picture, text him one with no comment. The judge doesn't like game playing. She needs to respond rationally to inquiries about the kids and let the rest go. she gets brownie points for keeping the focus on the kids. He looks like the nut case he has become.
Always take the high road if you're going to find yourself in court.
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Post by midjd on Aug 12, 2014 12:37:09 GMT -5
I'd probably send the pics, but wait a few days. Let him twist a bit and see what other crazy crap he comes up with between now and then.
Is your only communication through email? If he has your phone number, I wouldn't worry too much about him claiming you're trying to keep him from the kids by not sending pics. You can always say that after the thousandth or so crazy town email, you just started blocking them.
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Post by greeniis10 on Aug 12, 2014 12:40:05 GMT -5
you guys crack me up it wasn't as dramatic as you are probably imagining. I did look it up though & he has trial on the 18th. It is almost guaranteed he will go to jail (IMO). If he leaves the state before then, there will be a warrant & he pretty much can never come back. Although, wouldn't the warrant extend to other states? So if he gets pulled over in TX, they will just extradite him & send him right back? So it would be extremely stupid to help him leave the state by buying a bus ticket even though I want him gone, correct? Just trying to think through what it means if he leaves like he says he wants to. Just a warning: (my ex had similar issues, so just speaking from experience) if he does go to jail and if he is bi-polar he may get on medication while in jail. My ex had undiagnosed mental issues his whole life. Just served an 18 mo. jail term and while in there his lawyer convinced him to get on some anti-depressants (and something else, I can't recall) on the grounds that he'd be "calm" enough to sit through his trial without exploding in the courtroom and assuring himself a loss. The change was incredible! We all knew not to expect it to last but for the first 6 mos. after he was released he stayed on the meds and for the first time in my life I had normal conversations with him, as did my son. But, we knew not to get sucked in. So, if this does happen, be warned! Be prepared. Yes, it's good if they do get the treatment they need, but they don't ever fundamentally "change". BTW, my ex stopped taking the meds now and continues to cause DS2 grief. Thankfully, DS2 is a correctional officer and treats his dad as he does his inmates. At least he has the training for it and it spares him more emotional turmoil.
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Post by The Captain on Aug 12, 2014 12:40:37 GMT -5
Actually, how about a compromise? Make photo prints and put them in the boxes of his crap in the basement. Tell them the photos are in there, and he'll have to take his stuff out of the house in order to get the photos. I understand the urge to fight back, but they're his kids too, even if he's useless. If he asks for a picture, text him one with no comment. The judge doesn't like game playing. She needs to respond rationally to inquiries about the kids and let the rest go. she gets brownie points for keeping the focus on the kids. He looks like the nut case he has become.
Always take the high road if you're going to find yourself in court.
Damn!!! I hate it when you make sense when I'm trying to be bitchy.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 12, 2014 12:41:53 GMT -5
Doesn't the lawyer keep a copy? So he/she has one in their files? Even if the lawyer has a copy, Grandma could have torn up the original herself. No, funny enough, the lawyer kept the original. My ex MIL had a copy which she tore up. I think her mother didnt trust her, with good reason. The grandma had told the grandchildren over and over again that they got the house and their mom got everything else, which is why they asked about the house. They were able to be fobbed off by their mom saying grandma didnt trust lawyers so never wrote a will. Which isn't true.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Aug 12, 2014 12:42:44 GMT -5
Even if the lawyer has a copy, Grandma could have torn up the original herself. No, funny enough, the lawyer kept the original. My ex MIL had a copy which she tore up. I think her mother didnt trust her, with good reason. The grandma had told the grandchildren over and over again that they got the house and their mom got everything else, which is why they asked about the house. They were able to be fobbed off by their mom saying grandma didnt trust lawyers so never wrote a will. Which isn't true. diabolical.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 12, 2014 12:43:33 GMT -5
Nope. Princesses mommy is giving her 10k, she says, but she is a pathological liar so who knows and she did give her the engagement ring that DF bought her because Princesses fiancé couldn't afford to give her the ring she wanted. The EX feels the "children" ages 27 and almost 27 with well paying jobs, shouldn't pay for any of their wedding. DF SAYS he is okay with giving her 12,500 but that the "children" need to come up with the rest. He hasn't told his Princess this yet because he has been waiting for her to ask about his health and in general, pretend she cares long enough to get her wedding check. That doesn't seem to be happening the way he thought it would. It's sad and ugly. So are they going to be able to come up with $35k+ for the wedding they are planning or is DF going to end up paying for it, or are they going to have to downgrade? Good questions. DF thinks they will invite fewer guests or pay for the rest. He SAYS he will not pay anymore than he has said he would. But I don't believe him.
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Post by Angel! on Aug 12, 2014 12:48:59 GMT -5
He only communicates through email now. A while back he got really drunk one night & around midnight sent me dozens of texts, which I ignored. Then he started calling & when I finally answered he started yelling & throwing a damn fit. He had a modem that I needed to come pick up RIGHT NOW or he was going to smash it. I told him I didn't give a crap & wasn't going to wake up 3 kids to drive across town for something that I didn't need. Also told him when he acts like that it scares me because I don't know what he will do next. I seriously was up for the next 3 hours just pacing & checking on the kids because I was paranoid he might show up. So he has never texted or called since because he doesn't want to "scare me". Then made a big to do about how silly I am being & how could a guy with a hurt leg scare me. Also kept saying he wasn't yelling, I was just misunderstanding what he was saying. But, whatever. It has made my life easier that he doesn't call or text. Probably was smart enough to realize that if he kept it up I might have been able to go after him for harrassment and actually get a restraining order.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Aug 12, 2014 12:53:32 GMT -5
Actually, how about a compromise? Make photo prints and put them in the boxes of his crap in the basement. Tell them the photos are in there, and he'll have to take his stuff out of the house in order to get the photos. I understand the urge to fight back, but they're his kids too, even if he's useless. If he asks for a picture, text him one with no comment. The judge doesn't like game playing. She needs to respond rationally to inquiries about the kids and let the rest go. she gets brownie points for keeping the focus on the kids. He looks like the nut case he has become.
Always take the high road if you're going to find yourself in court.
I don't disagree with taking the high road, keeping the focus on the kids, etc., if you are dealing with a rational person. He isn't, from the sound of it. My concern is that it will progress from requests for photos to more whiny, demanding emails. That's why I rethought it and came up with the compromise of printed photos, stashed in his boxes of stuff. He wants the photos that badly, he gets them, and she gets rid of his junk. She fulfills the "taking the high road" idea at the same time.
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