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Post by tloonya on Feb 10, 2014 16:13:00 GMT -5
First grader asking to go to the bathroom. Teachers says no, accident happened. No one called Mom to let her know and kid was wet all day! Mom is a newcomer to the country. I want to rip this teach-bitch into shreds. HOW can you bitch not let kid out and keep her wet in this weather
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Post by swamp on Feb 10, 2014 16:14:12 GMT -5
before I rip anyone, I want to know what happened before it. Had the kid been 4 times in the past hour?
There is no excuse for keeping her wet, though.
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Post by tloonya on Feb 10, 2014 16:18:35 GMT -5
before I rip anyone, I want to know what happened before it. Had the kid been 4 times in the past hour?
There is no excuse for keeping her wet, though. NO! She is a very well behaved and shy kid. What if she get sick She walked to her mom's car in that cold!!!
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Post by swamp on Feb 10, 2014 16:19:45 GMT -5
before I rip anyone, I want to know what happened before it. Had the kid been 4 times in the past hour?
There is no excuse for keeping her wet, though. NO! She is a very well behaved and shy kid. What if she get sick She walked to her mom's car in that cold!!! you don't get sick from being cold. You get sick from bacteria and viruses.
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Post by busymom on Feb 10, 2014 16:49:48 GMT -5
I can't imagine the school not having a change of clothes available. The nurse's office at my kid's school always had extra clothing on hand for "accidents".
I hate hearing when teachers won't let kids go to the bathroom. I remember a boy in DD's class in 3rd or 4th grade that was denied permission to use the bathroom, & he had an accident. It's totally humiliating to the child!
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Feb 10, 2014 17:06:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 17:09:33 GMT -5
If she's really shy it could be that she never asked and/or hid that she had an accident. I'd find out from the teacher.
At our school all the kids are required to have a change of clothes in their cubby up to third grade. Not just for bathroom accidents. Sometimes they get wet outside or spill food or drink on themselves at lunch.
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Post by milee on Feb 10, 2014 17:10:08 GMT -5
Before doing anything, I'd talk to the teacher to understand her side of what happened.
Could be something to be angry about, could be a misunderstanding. Get the information before doing anything nutty.
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Post by tloonya on Feb 10, 2014 20:23:18 GMT -5
Mom is the mom who driving 6 kids back from school to their homes. When she came to pick her kid - teacher went out and started profusely apologize to mom and mom did not completely understood what had happened. She was rushing to collect all kids to take them home. When they all were in the car mom asked her daughter what happened. Kid quietly asked mom to talk about this at home. When mom brought her home she told her what had happened and mom left her with family member instructed her to wash tj=he kid and put ointment on her. Kid went to bed right after...being stressed I assume.Kid said that teacher asked loudly 'who did this' and kid said 'I was afraid if I said it was me - kids will look at me and I said it wasn't me'...and teacher should had known! She had not let THAT particular child go to the bathroom!!! And she is standing up in front of that child and asking 'who did it?' it is like a torture!!! I am planning on going to school tomorrow and give them hell! It should not happened! it is outrages. She is an ELEMENTARY school teacher!!! If anyone here is elementary teachers...do you have any bathroom policy ? I hope it is not 'no, you can't go'.... P.S. My DD had some bladder issues (thankfully nothing serious) and I told her if teacher is not sensitive to it - get up and GO! I will deal with teachers. We had talked with teacher and she had no problems with it anymore, specially when kid is not a slacker and staright A student and loves school... I am seriously sensitive to this issue. My friend's friend 's friend came from other country and coulnd ask in english to go and she pooped herself!! Don't those teachers MUST be sensitive? Darn!
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Post by JustLurkin on Feb 10, 2014 20:29:13 GMT -5
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Post by milee on Feb 10, 2014 20:57:09 GMT -5
Mom is the mom who driving 6 kids back from school to their homes. When she came to pick her kid - teacher went out and started profusely apologize to mom and mom did not completely understood what had happened. She was rushing to collect all kids to take them home. When they all were in the car mom asked her daughter what happened. Kid quietly asked mom to talk about this at home. When mom brought her home she told her what had happened and mom left her with family member instructed her to wash tj=he kid and put ointment on her. Kid went to bed right after...being stressed I assume.Kid said that teacher asked loudly 'who did this' and kid said 'I was afraid if I said it was me - kids will look at me and I said it wasn't me'...and teacher should had known! She had not let THAT particular child go to the bathroom!!! And she is standing up in front of that child and asking 'who did it?' it is like a torture!!! I am planning on going to school tomorrow and give them hell! It should not happened! it is outrages. She is an ELEMENTARY school teacher!!! If anyone here is elementary teachers...do you have any bathroom policy ? I hope it is not 'no, you can't go'.... P.S. My DD had some bladder issues (thankfully nothing serious) and I told her if teacher is not sensitive to it - get up and GO! I will deal with teachers. We had talked with teacher and she had no problems with it anymore, specially when kid is not a slacker and staright A student and loves school... I am seriously sensitive to this issue. My friend's friend 's friend came from other country and coulnd ask in english to go and she pooped herself!! Don't those teachers MUST be sensitive? Darn! So this isn't your kid and you're hearing the story second or third hand from someone who heard the story from a tired and embarrassed 6 year old. And you're planning to show up at the school tomorrow and "give them hell" about something which didn't happen to your child, which you didn't see and for which you haven't talked to any of the people directly involved - teacher or 6 year old.
Sounds completely rational. The school will certainly appreciate your input and be glad that you offered your wisdom here.
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Post by Formerly SK on Feb 10, 2014 21:04:51 GMT -5
I work in the health room and we have two dressers' worth of spare clothes for kids. I get kids who have accidents pretty much every day. My grumble is parents don't wash and return the clothes so we run out. I'm having a REALLY hard time believing the teacher just refused to let a 1st grader use the bathroom. I suspect there is a communication error somewhere. I'm also having a hard time believing a teacher yelled at the class and wanted to "out" the kid who had the accident. Course, I supposed anything is possible, but I'd give 99.99% odds that the girl did not relay the incident accurately. It's not her fault - she's 6. I've had 6yo come into the office and explain how they injured themselves at recess and it was totally different than was the recess supervisor saw. Some kids just can't organize their thoughts into a chronological order as well as other kids. If she's too shy to tell anyone she peed in her pants, it would be good for the school to know that so they can help her. My DD had about 20 accidents in the fall of her 1st grade year (side affect from a birth defect). The teacher implemented a policy that DD went to the bathroom every hour and that helped 99% of the problem. After awhile, it stopped altogether. There's no reason to fight with the school. Find out what happened and figure out a solution appropriate for the child.
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Post by swamp on Feb 10, 2014 21:08:48 GMT -5
I don't think the school is even going to talk to looney. It's not her kid.
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Post by Malarky on Feb 10, 2014 21:21:46 GMT -5
I'm sure the school isn't going to talk to looney.
But...this has been an issue for DD her whole school career and it was an issue for me as well.
I have a bladder the size of a pea. As does DD. I sometimes have to pee four times in an hour. You can't imagine how much fun it is to go out drinking with me. But when I have to go, I have to go. It doesn't matter if I went 5 minutes ago.
So DD has my permission to walk out of any class when they deny her leave to use the bathroom. Some teachers understand, others are assholes about it. Having been the kid to wet my pants because a teacher didn't believe I had to go, again, I didn't wish that upon her.
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Post by milee on Feb 10, 2014 21:22:22 GMT -5
I work in the health room and we have two dressers' worth of spare clothes for kids. I get kids who have accidents pretty much every day. My grumble is parents don't wash and return the clothes so we run out. Please let me apologize on behalf of all parents who don't return the clothes. My boys have some really odd taste in clothes. Although I'm always willing to buy them clothes, for some reason both get fixated on a few beloved pieces and refuse to move on. (Anybody see the Seinfeld episode with the Golden Boy t-shirt?) Anyway, my older son who was 4 at the time was cold one day so the school loaned him one of the spare jackets. Even though it was clearly a girl's jacket - jean jacket with purple thread and huge faux furry collar - he loved, loved, loved it and wouldn't take it off. Wore that thing for about 6 months straight even when it got hot as blazes. So it never got returned to the school.
Then a few years later, the younger son had an accident and got a stretchy blue pair of shorts from the spare box. No idea what is so beguiling about these things, they're almost like sweatpants with an elastic waist, but they are apparently his Golden Boy shorts and cannot ever be returned. This was 4 years ago, and he still digs them out of the Goodwill box whenever I try to donate them. You can't even begin to imagine how tight and obscene they are now, but they make him happy, so I let him wear them around the house.
So I'm one of those parents who didn't return everything. Sorry. I really would have liked to return these items - trust me. But I did donate several bags of other clothes to make up for the guilt. Hope that's OK because my oddball kids aren't giving up that jacket or shorty shorts.
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Post by tloonya on Feb 10, 2014 21:26:22 GMT -5
I don't think the school is even going to talk to looney. It's not her kid. 1. swamp, do yu ever sleep/ 2. I consider this child my grand daughter and if I tel principal I am about to sell this to a newspaper...guess WHAT? 3. I hope your child never wet its pants in class!
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 10, 2014 21:29:18 GMT -5
I went to Catholic schools when young. In grammar school, you either ate your brown bag lunch in the gymnasium or you went home for same (it was a neighborhood parish school). After eating lunch, you played in the schoolyard until lunch period was over.
I think I was in the third grade when this happened: a first grader was trying to reenter the school because she needed to use the restroom. The school doors were locked because the nuns were in one of the classrooms having their lunch. No one came to assist the little girl even though she was crying for help.
The girl finally lost control (diarrhea) and the crap was running down her bare legs. A nun looked out of a classroom window and saw the girl had had an accident. The sister brought her into the school to clean her up. The girl's mother was called and brought her home. I never saw the little girl again.
I can only imagine there was one pissed off mother and father.
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Post by swamp on Feb 10, 2014 21:30:10 GMT -5
I don't think the school is even going to talk to looney. It's not her kid. 1. swamp, do yu ever sleep/ 2. I consider this child my grand daughter and if I tel principal I am about to sell this to a newspaper...guess WHAT? 3. I hope your child never wet its pants in class! 1. Yes 2. You might consider it, but the school,doesn't. Ad if you threaten to go to the paper, the prociapl is going to think you are a whack job. 3. Thanks for your concern. I have extra clothes at school in case it happens.
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Post by tloonya on Feb 10, 2014 21:36:11 GMT -5
I'm sure the school isn't going to talk to looney.
But...this has been an issue for DD her whole school career and it was an issue for me as well.
I have a bladder the size of a pea. As does DD. I sometimes have to pee four times in an hour. You can't imagine how much fun it is to go out drinking with me. But when I have to go, I have to go. It doesn't matter if I went 5 minutes ago.
So DD has my permission to walk out of any class when they deny her leave to use the bathroom. Some teachers understand, others are assholes about it. Having been the kid to wet my pants because a teacher didn't believe I had to go, again, I didn't wish that upon her. Thanks! try to explain it to people who think they 'know it all' like swamp! She will give you all 'there is no small bladder' talk just for the...ability to type something. really thanks, Malarky. Some people have to stand up for whatever kid's need. How would that be awfull to let KID GO ? Or why she didn't call Mom? She needs to be stripped of teacher\s rights for a while. Huge unemployment line out...everywhere?
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Post by milee on Feb 10, 2014 21:38:32 GMT -5
....::::: if you threaten to go to the paper, the principal is going to think you are a whack job. :::::....
We really need an emoticon for "that ship has already sailed." Wouldn't it be cute to have one of the happy smiley faces in a little moving sailboat?
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Post by tloonya on Feb 10, 2014 21:39:55 GMT -5
I went to Catholic schools when young. In grammar school, you either ate your brown bag lunch in the gymnasium or you went home for same (it was a neighborhood parish school). After eating lunch, you played in the schoolyard until lunch period was over. I think I was in the third grade when this happened: a first grader was trying to reenter the school because she needed to use the restroom. The school doors were locked because the nuns were in one of the classrooms having their lunch. No one came to assist the little girl even though she was crying for help. The girl finally lost control (diarrhea) and the crap was running down her bare legs. A nun looked out of a classroom window and saw the girl had had an accident. The sister brought her into the school to clean her up. The girl's mother was called and brought her home. I never saw the little girl again. I can only imagine there was one pissed off mother and father. thank you for this as well. We are in XXI century now. Apparently some are still...nuns! Am I supposed to take it easy if my grandchild was basically humiliated for nothing? NOOOOOOO, swamp, NO!
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Post by swamp on Feb 10, 2014 21:40:51 GMT -5
It's not your grandchild!!!!
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Feb 10, 2014 21:44:22 GMT -5
If you think you're getting a teacher fired or suspended because a 6 year old had an accident you need to lay off the crack pipe.
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Post by moon/Laura on Feb 10, 2014 21:47:26 GMT -5
loony- I'm telling you for the last time. STOP BEING NASTY. You don't have to act shitty just because you don't agree with what's said. no self respecting newspaper is going to publish your 5th hand story. you also have no right to poke your nose in it, even if you do consider her to be your "granddaughter". she's not related to you. butt out and let the girl's mom handle it.
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Post by tloonya on Feb 10, 2014 21:56:16 GMT -5
loony- I'm telling you for the last time. STOP BEING NASTY. You don't have to act shitty just because you don't agree with what's said. no self respecting newspaper is going to publish your 5th hand story. you also have no right to poke your nose in it, even if you do consider her to be your "granddaughter". she's not related to you. butt out and let the girl's mom handle it.
How am I being nasty trying to prevent teachers from making horrible mistakes like not letting small child GO PEE? Whom am I offending here? I can go and do what I think is right. Right?
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Post by Shooby on Feb 10, 2014 21:59:16 GMT -5
You can but everyone doesn't have to agree.
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Post by moon/Laura on Feb 10, 2014 21:59:44 GMT -5
I was referring to your "know it all" comment loony. don't be deliberately dense. and you were not there. you don't know the facts, and it IS NOT YOUR CHILD. so no, you cannot go and do what you think is right. it's none of your business!
or, i guess i can rephrase and say you can try but they will not discuss it with you because it's not your child and none of your business.
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Post by Formerly SK on Feb 10, 2014 22:15:20 GMT -5
I work in the health room and we have two dressers' worth of spare clothes for kids. I get kids who have accidents pretty much every day. My grumble is parents don't wash and return the clothes so we run out. Please let me apologize on behalf of all parents who don't return the clothes. My boys have some really odd taste in clothes. Although I'm always willing to buy them clothes, for some reason both get fixated on a few beloved pieces and refuse to move on. (Anybody see the Seinfeld episode with the Golden Boy t-shirt?) Anyway, my older son who was 4 at the time was cold one day so the school loaned him one of the spare jackets. Even though it was clearly a girl's jacket - jean jacket with purple thread and huge faux furry collar - he loved, loved, loved it and wouldn't take it off. Wore that thing for about 6 months straight even when it got hot as blazes. So it never got returned to the school.
Then a few years later, the younger son had an accident and got a stretchy blue pair of shorts from the spare box. No idea what is so beguiling about these things, they're almost like sweatpants with an elastic waist, but they are apparently his Golden Boy shorts and cannot ever be returned. This was 4 years ago, and he still digs them out of the Goodwill box whenever I try to donate them. You can't even begin to imagine how tight and obscene they are now, but they make him happy, so I let him wear them around the house.
So I'm one of those parents who didn't return everything. Sorry. I really would have liked to return these items - trust me. But I did donate several bags of other clothes to make up for the guilt. Hope that's OK because my oddball kids aren't giving up that jacket or shorty shorts.
Awww...don't beat yourself up. Believe me, I could care less if a specific pair of pants are returned, I just get pissed when one month I had a drawer full of size 8 pants and the next month it was empty. If someone brought in a bag of clothes I'd be beyond thrilled. PSA to YM: Donate outgrown clothes to your kids' school! They really do have a need!
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Post by tloonya on Feb 10, 2014 22:15:35 GMT -5
I had cared for this child for 5 years since she came here from another country. She was 2 years old. She is calling me grandma. her family is closer to me now than all of my friends who left me because of I am too busy for them. Her family doesn't speak english enough to fight for their kid's rights. They are deeply religious people who will never lie. Her mother is driving those kids around because no one else wants to. you are making me look horrible and i think horrible is that more/less prestigious school employing a teacher who doesn't feel for children.
of course, you are moderators and you can have potatoe looking like balls as your avatar (even after people were grossed by it) but when I say something from the bottom of my heart begging for help its ok to give me cold shoulder. I just wish I understood your game. And the part where I had been nasty. tO WHOM?
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Post by tloonya on Feb 10, 2014 22:21:05 GMT -5
I was referring to your "know it all" comment loony. don't be deliberately dense. and you were not there. you don't know the facts, and it IS NOT YOUR CHILD. so no, you cannot go and do what you think is right. it's none of your business!
or, i guess i can rephrase and say you can try but they will not discuss it with you because it's not your child and none of your business.
So if I am walking by and some child is in trouble I should keep walking because it is not my child? and this is not of my business? Great disposition. Bravo! Not.
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