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Post by Loopdilou on Feb 17, 2011 0:07:38 GMT -5
I also see all the posts he's citing being written by those on the right. Except for bills who ed is having fun twisting the words of.. Since bills essentially said that the reporter knew what she was getting into and accepted the dangers as part of her job (and if that means he's blaming the victim, then I'm a martian). If you would like me to quote all the posts he's saying liberals posted, I'd be happy too.. but I'm almost positive none of them are liberals (handyman, workpublic, and reasonfreedom specifically).
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 17, 2011 0:09:21 GMT -5
It might have, but it didn't. And what's really dispicable are the suggestions I see here that this woman should have just stayed home, or been prepared to fight off a mob of rapists, rather than assume she would be afforded the basic human right to do her job without being beaten and raped. I think it's vile and disgusting that someone would presume this woman should have stayed home instead of make her way in the world like the free human being she is...I can honestly say to those people, I hope they find themselves in the same situation someday, and then let's hear them have to listen to people tell them they should have stayed home... Ed-How you have come to such conclusions simply boggles the mind. All your presumptions were made up by you. Try to sort out the facts from your fiction.
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Post by Loopdilou on Feb 17, 2011 0:11:19 GMT -5
Did you miss the posts that basically said she should have ... taken self defense classes, ... I will take this part of the statement: Yes, I am seriously comparing. If I were a reporter accepting assignments in volatile areas, I would certainly take self-defense training. I would also understand that it might not be sufficient for my personal safety and decide to take the chance or not. Free choice of individuals. Nothing disgraceful with the idea that any reporter going into a volatile area should seriously consider taking self defense training.[/quote] None at all. It's a bit like saying it's disgraceful for a person who works at a nuclear power plant to go in not knowing some basic safety. Or even a military computer tech not knowing how to shoot a gun (their job is not as infantry, after all). In fact, there's a very GOOD chance that she does know basic self defense.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 17, 2011 0:11:36 GMT -5
Frankly, Ed, you're acting like a worm on a hook. All this twisting isn't going to change what you've said throughout this thread, and it isn't going to change the attitude with which you've said it. Rape is NOT a strictly Islamic problem. Gang rape is NOT a strictly Islamic problem. It's against the law in most Islamic countries, and Muhammed taught it was a crime to be punished through death by stoning. It doesn't matter what religion rapists follow. They're wrong. Dead wrong. To me, that's the long and the short of it.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 17, 2011 0:16:09 GMT -5
Ah, I see, so getting beaten and raped is an occupational hazard for a journalist? That's what you're saying, right? I'm not misinterpreting this?
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 17, 2011 0:19:02 GMT -5
Getting beaten and raped, Ed, is (and has been) an occupational hazard for a woman. I work nights. When I get to work, security is waiting for me to see me into the building. That's reality, Ed, and it's not in the Middle East.
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 17, 2011 0:19:20 GMT -5
ed puts things up the more ludecrouse the better to get a reaction...so you have to take what he says with a grain of salt and then respond or not depending on the time of the moon ........ or he really believes these things....then the time of the moon is little help,,,,about three of these however, ssems to do wonders...
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 17, 2011 0:20:03 GMT -5
Ah, I see, so getting beaten and raped is an occupational hazard for a journalist? That's what you're saying, right? I'm not misinterpreting this? Unpunished murders of journalists cited in 12 nations The media group prepared its annual "Getting Away With Murder" report by ranking nations based on the number of unsolved journalist murders as a percentage of a country's population. CPJ looked at murders of journalists between 2000 and 2009 in all countries. Only countries with at least five unsolved cases make the "impunity index" list. This year, 12 countries made the media group's list, ranked in descending order by the number of unsolved journalist murders per 1 million inhabitants: •Iraq. Since the U.S. invasion in 2003, at least 88 journalists have been murdered, with no convictions. • Somalia. Nine killings are unsolved, including those of two of Radio Shabelle's directors in 2009. • Philippines. The November massacre of 30 journalists and two media support workers in Maguindanao province more than doubled the country's impunity rating to 55. • Sri Lanka. Ten journalists have been murdered for their coverage of civil war, human rights, politics, military affairs and corruption, without a single conviction. • Colombia. The killings of 13 journalists remain unsolved. However, prosecutors last year won convictions against three public officials charged with plotting the 2003 murder of a radio commentator. • Afghanistan. The seven killings include four international journalists and three Afghans. • Nepal. Six killings are unsolved, including those of two journalists believed to have been killed by Maoists rebels. • Russia. Eighteen unsolved killings include three murders committed in 2009. • Mexico. Organized crime is largely blamed for nine journalists' murders. • Pakistan. There are 12 unsolved murders of journalists. • Bangladesh. There have been no new murders since 2005, although seven remain unsolved. • India. Seven journalists have been murdered, and their killings not been solved, in the past decade. www.usatoday.com/news/world/2010-04-20-journalists-killed_N.htm
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 17, 2011 0:23:39 GMT -5
That didn't help your case, Tenn..
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 17, 2011 0:24:00 GMT -5
I will take this part of the statement: Yes, I am seriously comparing. If I were a reporter accepting assignments in volatile areas, I would certainly take self-defense training. I would also understand that it might not be sufficient for my personal safety and decide to take the chance or not. Free choice of individuals. Nothing disgraceful with the idea that any reporter going into a volatile area should seriously consider taking self defense training. None at all. It's a bit like saying it's disgraceful for a person who works at a nuclear power plant to go in not knowing some basic safety. Or even a military computer tech not knowing how to shoot a gun (their job is not as infantry, after all). In fact, there's a very GOOD chance that she does know basic self defense. [/quote] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Supposedly there were 200 males there all worked up ..Rambo , a real one , plus Arnold , also real would have been wiped. Seriously she is lucky she is alive.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 17, 2011 0:26:36 GMT -5
That didn't help your case, Tenn.. How so ed? Journalism can be a dangerous business. While what happened to Ms. Logan is quite unfortunate, she did walk away with her life. The journalists listed in the above countries sadly did not.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 17, 2011 0:27:18 GMT -5
Yes, maybe she should have just stayed home, right?
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 17, 2011 0:29:34 GMT -5
That didn't help your case, Tenn.. Why not, Ed?
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 17, 2011 0:30:28 GMT -5
Dez didn't say she should have stayed home, Ed. That came from your imagination, and you have attributed the results of your imagination to Dez. You seem to do a great deal of that sort of projection.
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Post by steff on Feb 17, 2011 0:34:24 GMT -5
I can honestly say to those people, I hope they find themselves in the same situation someday,
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the fact that you've already made a big deal about how you are arguing with liberal WOMEN on this subject, the fact that you would gleefully hope for them to also be raped just to satisfy your overflated ego and sense of self righteousness is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen posted here.
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Post by Loopdilou on Feb 17, 2011 0:37:47 GMT -5
... I'm not sure why pointing out how dangerous her job is equates to "she should stay home".
Ed, some of us like this crazy thing called reality. And the reality of the situation is that it could have happened in any volatile zone. You apparently just think it's something that the Muslim brotherhood does and are saying that her rape is indicative of what Egypt will become. Those of us who are sane realize that a rape committed by an isolated group of crazy people does not bear any relation to what Egypt will become. In truth, the number of violent incidents in Egypt were small - the fundamentalists you keep screaming about were incredibly peaceful and the only times there were violence (for the most part) was when pro-government forces showed up and started shit. So you're either ignoring facts or just being deliberately obtuse. Or both.
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Post by Loopdilou on Feb 17, 2011 0:38:21 GMT -5
I can honestly say to those people, I hope they find themselves in the same situation someday, ****************************** the fact that you've already made a big deal about how you are arguing with liberal WOMEN on this subject, the fact that you would gleefully hope for them to also be raped just to satisfy your overflated ego and sense of self righteousness is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen posted here. It's also not the first time he has done this.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Feb 17, 2011 0:40:07 GMT -5
Yes, maybe she should have just stayed home, right? Most everyone here in not buying your "womens' rights" advocacy bull crap eddie. Most here see through your sick, bigoted, accusations toward progressive Americans and Muslims.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 17, 2011 0:40:18 GMT -5
Why don't you read billisonboard's post #71, then get back to me on that...
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 17, 2011 0:41:57 GMT -5
Vrginia is right, Ed. You've got a pretty astute group of posters here. They're not going to fall for the obvious ploys you're using.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 17, 2011 0:41:59 GMT -5
It could have, but this is where it DID happen. If you want to start a thread about another journalist beaten and raped by a mob somewhere else, be my guest.
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Post by steff on Feb 17, 2011 0:42:09 GMT -5
It's also not the first time he has done this
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apparently the good "christian" man ed believes that a woman should be taught a lesson by being raped. How completely vile and disgusting
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 17, 2011 0:43:28 GMT -5
I think Ed is getting a bit frustrated and the ruse is falling in on him. His true nature is surfacing despite his best efforts.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 17, 2011 0:44:15 GMT -5
Impossible, you claim these people don't exist. You say no one on this thread has suggested the reporter should have stayed home. I disagree, but if they aren't there, there's no one to be the victim here and you're out of luck...
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Post by steff on Feb 17, 2011 0:46:44 GMT -5
you claim these people don't exist. You say no one on this thread has suggested the reporter should have stayed home.
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prove it.... show me EXACTLY where *I* said these things...you won't be able to, you're now grasping at straws.... put up & prove it or STFU already
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 17, 2011 0:49:02 GMT -5
Oops, got you confused with mmhmm, she said they don't exist. My apologies...
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 17, 2011 0:49:13 GMT -5
Who has claimed what people don't exist, Ed? I'm afraid you're babbling now.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Feb 17, 2011 0:49:28 GMT -5
Oh yeah, go ahead and get a "high five" and approval by Mr. "Drive drunk and cheat on my wife" guy.Dear Ms. SweetVrginia, I only defend such persons, and paid handsomely to do so. They are all completely innocent in my eyes. Which is why you have convinced yourself that you too are innocent.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 17, 2011 0:50:21 GMT -5
Who did I say didn't exist, Ed? Show me, please.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 17, 2011 0:53:56 GMT -5
Oh my God, read your post #193, what are you talking about in that post?
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