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Post by ed1066 on Feb 16, 2011 22:55:04 GMT -5
The radical, fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood is about to take power in Egypt. How on earth do you call that a "freedom" revolution? Are YOU serious??
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Post by handyman2 on Feb 16, 2011 22:55:47 GMT -5
It is tragic that the reporter got caught up in such a traumatic set of circumstances. The truth to me is that religion was not a part of it. True Islam does not put the female in a same standard as a male in terms of respect. But just from what I have read it was nothing but a pack of wild dogs let loose, which you will find happens when volitile situations like this when the leaders of the protests lose control. What happens it turns from a protest into a cover for a two legged animals to do what they please knowing that the likely hood of being caught is nil. A classic example is some of things that went on in the Superdome in NewOrleans. They stole from each other beat those that would not submit and yes commited rapes. The thugs are always out there to take advantage of the peoples less able to defend themselves I am dissapointed to hear this happens in our military. When it does the perp should be stripped and drummend out of the service no matter who they are. Jailed and loss of all pay and benefits. In effect black balled even in civilian life
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Post by Loopdilou on Feb 16, 2011 22:57:06 GMT -5
The radical, fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood is about to take power in Egypt. How on earth do you call that a "freedom" revolution? Are YOU serious?? And somehow the whackadoodles of the world still scream the loudest...
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 16, 2011 22:59:35 GMT -5
I agree, but once again, with the approval and support of the American left and president Obama (who cheered and supported the "revolution"), Egypt will be transitioning to a society where women have no rights, so their opinions, unfortunately, won't matter in the "new" Egypt... Eddie, If you are implying what I think you are implying, than you are simply despicable. Are you somehow trying to imply that the left wing of America indirectly "approves" of this crime simply because they are happy about the freedom revolution in Egypt? What is wrong with you? Seriously! Yes he is implying it.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 16, 2011 22:59:38 GMT -5
Agree handyman, and once again my point is not the religion of the perpetrators, it's the fact that this type of crime (rape, including marital rape) is shunned and prohibited in civilized nations, while in fundamentalist Islamic theocracies, it is overlooked, allowed and even encouraged in some circumstances. Sorry if that offends, but I don't know of any other type of religious fundamentalist theocracy in the world. If someone can provide data for another type of fundamentalist religious theocracy operating today that condones rape, please let me know. I'll use that as an example instead...
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Post by SweetVirginia on Feb 16, 2011 23:03:06 GMT -5
The radical, fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood is about to take power in Egypt. How on earth do you call that a "freedom" revolution? Are YOU serious?? Call it what ever the hell you want eddie. The fact that you have tried to associate the left wing of America with the approval of this crime, is absolutely insane and wrong. What the hell is wrong with you?
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Post by Loopdilou on Feb 16, 2011 23:03:57 GMT -5
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Post by burnsattornincan on Feb 16, 2011 23:04:20 GMT -5
If someone can provide data for another type of fundamentalist religious theocracy operating today that condones rape, please let me know.
I cannot so another point for you Mr. ed1066.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Feb 16, 2011 23:04:38 GMT -5
Eddie, If you are implying what I think you are implying, than you are simply despicable. Are you somehow trying to imply that the left wing of America indirectly "approves" of this crime simply because they are happy about the freedom revolution in Egypt? What is wrong with you? Seriously! Yes he is implying it. Which is why I am appalled at him.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 16, 2011 23:17:10 GMT -5
Thank you sir and aren't you enjoying watching the liberal women of this board jumping to the defense of the fundamentalist muslims? It's so ironic it would actually be funny were it not so sad...
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Post by burnsattornincan on Feb 16, 2011 23:20:38 GMT -5
Yes Mr. ed1066, you have them all tied up in knots. Priceless.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Feb 16, 2011 23:22:17 GMT -5
Thank you sir and aren't you enjoying watching the liberal women of this board jumping to the defense of the fundamentalist muslims? It's so ironic it would actually be funny were it not so sad... You are truly disturbed eddie. I see you on a whole different deranged level now. Yikes.
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on Feb 16, 2011 23:23:36 GMT -5
Mubarak thugs beat her up. This thread is total idiocy. Read something.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Feb 16, 2011 23:24:37 GMT -5
Yes Mr. ed1066, you have them all tied up in knots. Priceless. Oh yeah, go ahead and get a "high five" and approval by Mr. "Drive drunk and cheat on my wife" guy. You are in great company eddie.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 16, 2011 23:25:40 GMT -5
Hey the Demtroll is back! Whatever you do, please don't switch sides!
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 16, 2011 23:29:15 GMT -5
Who would have thought a story about a woman being raped and beaten would generate such hatred? I would have thought we could all agree this was a bad thing and the perpetrators are scum...
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Post by burnsattornincan on Feb 16, 2011 23:29:16 GMT -5
Oh yeah, go ahead and get a "high five" and approval by Mr. "Drive drunk and cheat on my wife" guy.
Dear Ms. SweetVrginia, I only defend such persons, and paid handsomely to do so. They are all completely innocent in my eyes.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 23:30:37 GMT -5
Agree handyman, and once again my point is not the religion of the perpetrators, it's the fact that this type of crime (rape, including marital rape) is shunned and prohibited in civilized nations, while in fundamentalist Islamic theocracies, it is overlooked, allowed and even encouraged in some circumstances. Sorry if that offends, but I don't know of any other type of religious fundamentalist theocracy in the world. If someone can provide data for another type of fundamentalist religious theocracy operating today that condones rape, please let me know. I'll use that as an example instead... Rape is overlooked, allowed, and even encouraged in SOME circumstances in this country, as well. Rapists are sometimes given very light sentences, if they're arrested at all. Most of the blame and ridicule usually falls on the woman. It's getting better, but we're certainly not there yet! As far as these theocracies you're talking about, most have laws against rape and there are penalties. I told you what the law is in Egypt. It's about the same in Saudi. You're reading, apparently, about incidents that occur in rural areas and are adjudicated by the local Imams. When these cases are brought forward by attorneys, the local Imams are usually overruled. You need to do some research, Ed. You don't have your facts correct.
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Post by burnsattornincan on Feb 16, 2011 23:31:17 GMT -5
I would have thought we could all agree this was a bad thing and the perpetrators are scum...
You are right again Mr. ed1066. If I am still awake, or remember about this in the morning, you will get another point from me. /Dalton
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 23:32:17 GMT -5
Who would have thought a story about a woman being raped and beaten would generate such hatred? I would have thought we could all agree this was a bad thing and the perpetrators are scum... I haven't seen any hatred, Ed. What I've seen is people agreeing this was a very bad thing. Before you do that research, clean your glasses.
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Post by handyman2 on Feb 16, 2011 23:41:48 GMT -5
What worries me is that they will end up swapping one dictator for another. And a lot of innocent people will pay the price.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Feb 16, 2011 23:44:20 GMT -5
Who would have thought a story about a woman being raped and beaten would generate such hatred? I would have thought we could all agree this was a bad thing and the perpetrators are scum... You are the one who identifies most with "hatred" ed. The only thing that has created controversy about this story is YOU trying to somehow imply that left wing America condones or approves of what happened to this rape victim, simply because some Americans support the Egyptians' recent acts of revolution. That is just so wrong.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 16, 2011 23:44:28 GMT -5
Did you miss the posts that basically said she should have known better than to go into a dangerous situation, or taken self defense classes, or not been there at all? That's a disgrace! Sure, why don't we keep all our female journalists at home where they belong, right, instead of out in the big, scary world. That's disgusting! Why not just keep all our women inside and never let them out without a male escort. Oh, I know why we don't. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT A FUCKING FUNDAMENTALIST MUSLIM COUNTRY!!!!
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 16, 2011 23:52:51 GMT -5
There goes ed over the edge a g a i n
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Post by SweetVirginia on Feb 16, 2011 23:54:47 GMT -5
Did you miss the posts that basically said she should have known better than to go into a dangerous situation, or taken self defense classes, or not been there at all? That's a disgrace! Sure, why don't we keep all our female journalists at home where they belong, right, instead of out in the big, scary world. That's disgusting! Why not just keep all our women inside and never let them out without a male escort. Oh, I know why we don't. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT A FUCKING FUNDAMENTALIST MUSLIM COUNTRY!!!!Oh yeah, as if American, "Christian" men have never blamed a rape victim for being raped! There are PLENTY of psycho American Christian men, who believe that women should be kept inside and never be let out without an escort. There are deranged men in ALL religions and societies that have these sick ideas about women ed. These ideas are not exclusive to Muslims, you friggin bigot.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 23:56:44 GMT -5
I read all the posts, Ed, even those. I didn't see hatred. I did see disagreement. Many of us called down those who said she shouldn't have been there. She was doing her job. That's a good thing, not a bad thing. What happened to her there might have happened anywhere. It's happened before. It happens in this country. It's tragic, and its despicable, but it happens. I know that doesn't fit your agenda, but that's the way it is.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 23:59:24 GMT -5
What worries me is that they will end up swapping one dictator for another. And a lot of innocent people will pay the price. At this point, we don't know what's going to happen. It's a wait and see thing. Hopefully, this will result in changes the people want (whether they're changes we like, or not). Right now, with the constitution suspended, they're in a precarious position. They've got to make some decisions and get going. Personally, I wish them luck and success.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 17, 2011 0:00:40 GMT -5
It might have, but it didn't. And what's really dispicable are the suggestions I see here that this woman should have just stayed home, or been prepared to fight off a mob of rapists, rather than assume she would be afforded the basic human right to do her job without being beaten and raped. I think it's vile and disgusting that someone would presume this woman should have stayed home instead of make her way in the world like the free human being she is...I can honestly say to those people, I hope they find themselves in the same situation someday, and then let's hear them have to listen to people tell them they should have stayed home...
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 17, 2011 0:04:19 GMT -5
You say it didn't happen, Ed, but it has happened before. It will happen again. It hasn't been confined to Islamic countries, either; nor, will it be. I also don't agree she should have stayed home. Hell, we go to work here and we could be raped if we're in the wrong place at the wrong time. Life is like that, sadly. Everybody isn't a good guy; however, everybody isn't a bad guy, either.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 17, 2011 0:06:19 GMT -5
Did you miss the posts that basically said she should have ... taken self defense classes, ... I will take this part of the statement: Oh, I wasn't aware that reporters had to go bootcamp/self-defense training school to report the news. I mean seriously you are comparing reporters to police/soldiers in that situation? Yes, I am seriously comparing. If I were a reporter accepting assignments in volatile areas, I would certainly take self-defense training. I would also understand that it might not be sufficient for my personal safety and decide to take the chance or not. Free choice of individuals. Nothing disgraceful with the idea that any reporter going into a volatile area should seriously consider taking self defense training.
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