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Post by stayput on Feb 17, 2012 1:56:09 GMT -5
What regulations do they have on guns, if any, down there? Could someone bring their cache of weapons with them down there, or would they be confiscated?
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Post by stayput on Feb 17, 2012 2:02:36 GMT -5
I recall hearing some whack job over on the old MSN P&M board constantly going on about unrest, protests, riots, food shortages, soaring food prices, the economy collapsing, and on and on and on. Thank goodness we had some level headed people who constantly rebuked that guy, and was able to bring up multiple examples of exactly how we are in fact in a recovery. Aren't you guys so glad that the worst is behind us now? Now that we are solidly in a growth/recovery mode, and the whole world has settled down, I guess we can all start singing Kumbya and Happy Days Are Here Again. WOW!! This was posted a year ago. Whoda thunk? |
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Post by traelin0 on Feb 17, 2012 11:49:43 GMT -5
What regulations do they have on guns, if any, down there? Could someone bring their cache of weapons with them down there, or would they be confiscated? I'm not sure about Argentina, but Chile is pretty reasonable. While I am a huge proponent of gun ownership, it's gotten to the point that I am willing to go through extra registration processes just to move somewhere that allows me to keep more of what I earn. |
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Post by stayput on Feb 17, 2012 17:57:43 GMT -5
You can only keep it as long as no one takes it from you. Hence, guns and plenty of ammo. It would really suck if you moved to a central/south American country (or even Asia), that let you keep most or even all of your money, only to find out that the bad guys (FARC or whoever else) set it up that way to ensure they get the maximum loot from your unarmed dead bodies.
As Sid the sloth, from that movie Ice Age says: "I choose life."
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Post by traelin0 on Feb 17, 2012 18:42:14 GMT -5
You can only keep it as long as no one takes it from you. Hence, guns and plenty of ammo. It would really suck if you moved to a central/south American country (or even Asia), that let you keep most or even all of your money, only to find out that the bad guys (FARC or whoever else) set it up that way to ensure they get the maximum loot from your unarmed dead bodies. As Sid the sloth, from that movie Ice Age says: "I choose life." That's true. Fortunately for us, Chile is not an overbearing country with respect to firearms. If you remember the insane earthquake near Santiago a couple years ago or so, the neighborhood "watches" had militiamen stationed at the entrances and exits so as to prevent looting. It was incredibly civilized with such armed presences of course. Compare it to Katrina, where you had people acting like animals and the gun Nazis confiscating firearms from lawful citizens. I remember reading about one instance where an elderly woman fought unsuccessfully to keep her firearm from being stolen by law enforcement, only to be looted a couple days later. |
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Post by stayput on Feb 20, 2012 18:46:49 GMT -5
traelinO, although I do appreciate, and have pondered the very question as to whether I should stay, or flee for better pastures, I have come to the conclusion that I will "Stay Put". That could end up changing, should my unique demographic become so intolerable that it leaves me no other choice. However, after weighing all of the pro's and con's, I find the pro's for staying far outweigh the con's.
By staying, I am not flying blind as it were. I have a complete support network where I am. I have a unique understanding of both the people and the entire region that I just wouldn't have were I to pack up my family and bug out. I know the people of these mountains, and as such, I have the insider knowledge of which people I can totally trust, and those that should be avoided like the plague. Those and a whole list of other vital information, necessary for keeping my family and myself alive just would be available to me in a foreign land. Whether that foreign land be another part of this country, or a whole different country altogether.
Again, I have my entire family here as well...siblings, nieces, nephews, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc., and many friends too. In fact, we have had many former locals who have been moving back here, from various parts of the country. So, I'm seeing people that I haven't seen since my school days. If you were to look at my region alone, it's as if people are starting to circle the wagons in preparation of a massive economic attack.
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Post by traelin0 on Feb 20, 2012 19:00:59 GMT -5
traelinO, although I do appreciate, and have pondered the very question as to whether I should stay, or flee for better pastures, I have come to the conclusion that I will "Stay Put". That could end up changing, should my unique demographic become so intolerable that it leaves me no other choice. However, after weighing all of the pro's and con's, I find the pro's for staying far outweigh the con's. By staying, I am not flying blind as it were. I have a complete support network where I am. I have a unique understanding of both the people and the entire region that I just wouldn't have were I to pack up my family and bug out. I know the people of these mountains, and as such, I have the insider knowledge of which people I can totally trust, and those that should be avoided like the plague. Those and a whole list of other vital information, necessary for keeping my family and myself alive just would be available to me in a foreign land. Whether that foreign land be another part of this country, or a whole different country altogether. Again, I have my entire family here as well...siblings, nieces, nephews, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc., and many friends too. In fact, we have had many former locals who have been moving back here, from various parts of the country. So, I'm seeing people that I haven't seen since my school days. If you were to look at my region alone, it's as if people are starting to circle the wagons in preparation of a massive economic attack. Well, pretty soon we'll be able to exclaim: "Look up in the sky! It's a bird, it's a plane, it's an unmanned drone!" |
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Post by stayput on Feb 22, 2012 16:09:49 GMT -5
trae, the Liberals want nothing more than for everyone like you an me to believe their lies. The lies that make some erroneously believe that there is no way to stop them. That there is no way to take our country back, but we actually can. We outnumber them tens of thousands to one. The only reason that some grow faint of heart, is that they have cornered the podium with the microphones and loudspeakers. As such, they make themselves sound more in numbers than they actually are, or ever have been. This is why I have boycotted all of those Liberal media channels, and only watch FOX now.
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Post by traelin0 on Feb 22, 2012 20:51:04 GMT -5
Americans leaving US in record numbersStay Put, there are 76 million Boomers, conservatively. 15-20 million illegals in this country, conservatively. 44 million on food stamps, conservatively, but obviously with an overlap of the above two categories. I'm not going to go into the unemployment numbers because that just stirs the hornet's nest for those who believe the govt. statistics. How many are "99ers" who now claim mental disability to avoid work? In any event, there are now 6.4 million Americans living abroad for various reasons. Educated guesswork would place most of them as students who eventually will produce; workers who are producing; and retirees who aren't producing but have the wealth to leave. Given that the moochers outnumber the producers in the USSA, where do you think the trend is going, up or down? I believe you are completely wrong about who outnumbers whom in the lower 48. If you choose to stay, you do realize you will be paying for these parasites, right? They can't survive without producers, no matter how impulsive their demands are for us to leave. In fact, they're too damn dumb to understand that, by asking disgruntled producers to leave, they are simply sealing their own fates. They cannot get by on their entitlements without producers funding their existence. Why not show them how ignorant they are and leave? Wouldn't you rather watch this reality show from somewhere safer?
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Post by stayput on Feb 24, 2012 16:23:08 GMT -5
traelin0, although I do accept the fact of the number of people who are currently on the govt dole, what you did not take into account, is just how many new people are there for the first time. You also don't take into account that most of these people, although now forced to accept these govt handouts, do not accept the ideologies that has forced them onto the govt dole in the first place. Save for the generational welfare recipients, most people currently receiving govt assistance Hate the fact that they are no longer able to support their own families as a direct result of the Unconstitutional policies enacted by both parties, but more so by the Liberal Democrats.
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Post by jeff schnepper on Apr 11, 2012 15:17:58 GMT -5
you made the statment municipal bonds (tax free) can not be touched by the IRS. But you must report it and then it is used to tax your ss. so just how do you get around this ?
edited to remove link and email addy ~moon
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Post by stayput on Apr 15, 2012 2:28:56 GMT -5
you made the statment municipal bonds (tax free) can not be touched by the IRS. But you must report it and then it is used to tax your ss. so just how do you get around this ? The Muni's that I spoke of (long, long ago) were zero coupon municipal bonds. They are almost always sold in the multi-million dollar range, unless there is some brokerage firm trying to attract new clients by purchasing some and breaking them up for smaller "new" clients. They are sold in what they call "blocks". If you have millions to invest, speak to your brokerage firm who can/will answer all of your questions on the subject. edited to remove link and email addy ~moon |
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