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[Virgil Showlion]

ReformedDayTrade
Message #1825 - 12/03/10 04:45 PM

BTW, do you know where he attended school

                 Harvard?? Univ of Virginia Law School....I think...he also gave a few lectures at BC at BC Law School as a guest of Fr Drinan SJ about his work on the McClellan Committee going after Jimmy Hoffa and Dave Beck and gave out copies of his best seller "The Enemy Within"... However his lectures at BC were restricted for law school students only but he did roam around the campus and talked to the students when he visited and later got an honoray degree and gave the commencement address in 1960..

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traelin0
Message #1826 - 12/03/10 04:46 PM

Harvard?? 

In September 1948, Kennedy enrolled at the University of Virginia School of Law in Charlottesville. On June 17, 1950, Kennedy married Ethel Skakel at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenwich, Connecticut. Kennedy graduated from law school in June 1951 and flew with Ethel to Greenwich to stay in his father-in-law's guest house. Kennedy's first child, Kathleen, was born on July 4, 1951, and Kennedy spent the summer studying for the Massachusetts bar exam

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Rewnti
Message #1827 - 12/03/10 04:52 PM

Too many ex-weedheads running our country.

We need to get back to the good ole days when good all American alcoholics ran it.

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fiscana
Message #1828 - 12/03/10 05:00 PM

Ethel Skakel

haha a hah ah ah ah ah h ah ah ah ah ah ahah

Seeing that name reminded me of the Skakel who was finally convicted of killing that poor good looking neighbor of his. Remember his defense line for how his stuff got to where it was.....? Don't make me spell it out!

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1829 - 12/03/10 05:04 PM

We need to get back to the good ole days when good all American alcoholics ran it.

              Those were the good ole days....when men were men and women were ashamed of them..and cops in Washington DC would never give out a DUI to any member of congress but rather escort them home and not say a word about it... except if one of the drunken politician's( Wilbur Mills)  passengers jumped out of the car and went into the Potomac and was in the headlines. (Fanny Fox).

 

             If you ever attended the night life in the watering holes along Massachusetts Ave in Washington DC where all the Airline Attendants and members of congress and their staff hung out you would be amazed at how much some members of congress could consume and still drive home..

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traelin0
Message #1830 - 12/03/10 05:06 PM

If you ever attended the night life in the watering holes along Massachusetts Ave in Washington DC where all the Airline Attendants and members of congress and their staff hung out you would be amazed at how much some members of congress could consume and still drive home..

Yeah but if you weren't a staffer, they were pricks.  Of course, if you WERE a staffer, they were even worse...  All politicians should have been banned from Irish Times...

[Virgil Showlion]

safeharbor37
Message #1831 - 12/03/10 05:28 PM



  You have seen the CIA recruitment ads haven't you. If not, you oughta. Whoa! They used to recruit  surreptitiously in colleges and universities, offering internships to those selected. The pay was good enough to pay for ones education, but the only way to get one was to be recommended by someone already connected.

www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/cia-recruitment-commercials-091118

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traelin0
Message #1832 - 12/03/10 05:44 PM

when men were men and women were ashamed of them

LMAO

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traelin0
Message #1834 - 12/03/10 05:51 PM



JFK's remarks at a dinner honoring Nobel Prize winners...

I want to tell you how welcome you are to the White House. I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered together at the White House, with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone.

Someone once said that Thomas Jefferson was a gentleman of 32 who could calculate an eclipse, survey an estate, tie an artery, plan an edifice, try a cause, break a horse, and dance the minuet. Whatever he may have lacked, if he could have had his former colleague, Mr. Franklin, here we all would have been impressed.

What a shame, the only POTUS worth a damn in the 20th century IMHO.

www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=8623

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Ratchets
Message #1835 - 12/03/10 05:55 PM

when men were men and women were ashamed of them..

That is too funny man hahaha.  Sure my wife would claim "been there done that" lol

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1836 - 12/03/10 07:39 PM

..Sorry RDT but your nemesis is a pretty funny guy

               Which one??  The last time I counted I have @13 nemeses...

[Virgil Showlion]

Value-Buy
Message #1837 - 12/03/10 07:49 PM

Silver, copper, and corn still doing real good today.

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traelin0
Message #1838 - 12/04/10 12:23 AM

Gold was up too, how's heating oil?

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AKA sanityjones
Message #1839 - 12/04/10 01:56 AM

Groceries were up too............I'm now checking into stomach stapling.

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traelin0
Message #1840 - 12/04/10 01:58 AM

Groceries were up too............I'm now checking into stomach stapling.

LOL!  It's just your imagination.  We're the BLS and we're here to help.  The CPI-U is to real inflation as a dude tucking his balls between his legs is to being a woman.

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AKA sanityjones
Message #1841 - 12/04/10 02:01 AM

LOL!  It's just your imagination.

Well then I'll just start eating imaginary groceries and bypass the gastric surgery. The money I save can be applied to my free healthcare.


Trae, how did you like the Black Friday link I put up last night a few pages back?

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traelin0
Message #1842 - 12/04/10 02:09 AM

Well then I'll just start eating imaginary groceries and bypass the gastric surgery. The money I save can be applied to my free healthcare

If you tell yourself you're eating food, then you really are! 

Trae, how did you like the Black Friday link I put up last night a few pages back?

If it was the running of the bulls, I posted it, too.  LOL yes it was quite the escapade...mongrels acting like, well, mongrels!

[Virgil Showlion]

AKA sanityjones
Message #1843 - 12/04/10 02:17 AM

If it was the running of the bulls, I posted it, too.  LOL yes it was quite the escapade...mongrels acting like, well, mongrels!

I thought it was extremely insightful. These people have discretionary wealth to spend on extra crap and they are acting like jacked up maniacs just to save a few bucks on a fictitious sale on junk they don't need. I shudder when I thing about these same people trying to get whatever they absolutely "can't live without" (beer and smokes) in the event of any meaningful or lengthy shortages.

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traelin0
Message #1844 - 12/04/10 02:19 AM

I thought it was extremely insightful. These people have discretionary wealth to spend on extra crap and they are acting like jacked up maniacs just to save a few bucks on a fictitious sale on junk they don't need. I shudder when I thing about these same people trying to get whatever they absolutely "can't live without" (beer and smokes) in the event of any meaningful or lengthy shortages.

Thank God most of them are city slickers and are unarmed.

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Stay Put
Message #1845 - 12/04/10 03:54 AM

The CPI-U is to real inflation as a dude tucking his balls between his legs is to being a woman.

Why would any guy intentionally crush his balls between his legs?  Is that some sort of caponizing method invented by the S&M crowd?

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AKA sanityjones
Message #1846 - 12/04/10 04:29 AM

Curiously enough traelin remains silent on this peculiar issue........................

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Stay Put
Message #1847 - 12/04/10 05:43 AM

I doubt that he was speaking from personal experience.  Probably just something that he had heard about in his wide range of studies.

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fiscana
Message #1848 - 12/04/10 06:07 AM

I just read the first 5 pages again. I hope this thing is saved somewhere forever.

[Virgil Showlion]

Stay Put
Message #1849 - 12/04/10 06:20 AM

I just read the first 5 pages again. I hope this thing is saved somewhere forever.

Only after we defeat the Progressives in 2012. Otherwise the "fairness doctrine" will see it wiped out of all memory banks for good.

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AKA sanityjones
Message #1850 - 12/04/10 02:27 PM

I doubt that he was speaking from personal experience.  Probably just something that he had heard about in his wide range of studies.

I guess I need a more thorough reading of the Federalist Papers.  

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1851 - 12/04/10 02:47 PM

I just read the first 5 pages again. I hope this thing is saved somewhere forever.

               That is just the introduction. It only has the  beginning comments by the Doom & Gloomers, Anarchists, White Supremicsts, Trolls, Constitutionalists, Political wonks,  and etc ...the next 15 pages are when this thread begins to get interesting. check it out if you want a few laughs   ..

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AKA sanityjones
Message #1852 - 12/04/10 02:51 PM

Good Lord, for a few good laughs check out page 14 again........LOL This thread is classic.

Whatever happened to your old pal cedaredge, RDT?

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1853 - 12/04/10 03:13 PM

Whatever happened to your old pal cedaredge, RDT?

                Propably getting ready for a return so check back Sunday AM before you go to

church and then pray for us because as you may or may not know  .."Hell hath no fury like a scorned *********"......

 

Good Lord, for a few good laughs check out page 14 again........LOL This thread is classic

           Ok thanx for that, I guess??

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fiscana
Message #1854 - 12/04/10 03:36 PM

Only after we defeat the Progressives in 2012. Otherwise the "fairness doctrine" will see it wiped out of all memory banks for good.

Dude, this stuff will live forever in my memory bank.

Page 14, that stuff is for the ages. "Make the calls tomorrow, guys". I was actually thinking of making the call, for a laugh, but I just couldn't risk laughing any harder for health reasons.

 

[Virgil Showlion]

ReformedDayTrade
Message #1855 - 12/04/10 03:50 PM



fiscan..........              Go ahead and make that call ....I posted the phone number for you to call ref to msg # 202 and good luck.....

 

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traelin0
Message #1856 - 12/04/10 05:34 PM

I doubt that he was speaking from personal experience.  Probably just something that he had heard about in his wide range of studies.

For some sick reason, I was thinking of Silence of the Lambs last night.  I guess because I was filling up my Wish List with Blu-rays.  Remember the scene of the serial killer tucking his balls between his legs as he pranced around his house?  LOL

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1857 - 12/04/10 09:09 PM

When the Economic Collapse hits this fall will you be prepared?

After considerable research and study I have the following recommendations for your consideration:

 

1.  Guns and plenty of ammo

 

2    Invest in Corn

 

3.   Grow your own Corn

 

4.   Do nothing & eat popcorn while watching  ESPN

 

5.   Move to Ottawa Canada and grow Canadian Sweet Corn

 

   

   

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handyman2
Message #1858 - 12/05/10 02:26 AM

RDT: after reading your post can I safely assume you have a basement full of guns and corn? I would throw in some beans and rice for a little diversity.

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fiscana
Message #1859 - 12/05/10 03:15 AM

Well I made the call RDT but they said they were no longer responding to inquiries from Canadians, then promptly hung up in my face. Please follow up.

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Stay Put
Message #1860 - 12/05/10 05:00 AM

After considerable research and study I have the following recommendations for your consideration:

This from a guy who lives in a state that is totally broke and is actually expecting the the rest of the country to bail them out, as they are still in the mindset of "to big to fail".  I say just let China have California and call it even.  If we do the deal quick enough, they won't have time to see just what we are actually giving them until it's too late to change their minds.  Of course the population of CA will finally get the government that they so desperately want, and continuously fight for.  Unfortunately "alternative lifestyle" groups have never faired well under either communism or national socialist, so the population would be drastically reduced under that new regime, and Californians that would be left (no pun intended) would find that they have elbow room for the first time in decades.

[Virgil Showlion]

traelin0
Message #1861 - 12/05/10 05:08 AM

I say just let China have California and call it even.

Interesting.  I said exactly the above about a month ago.  And the Chinese would already have an indigenous slave labor population.  I'm game, provided we build a Berlin Wall around California.  That would make for one hell of a shovel-ready project.

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Stay Put
Message #1862 - 12/05/10 05:22 AM

I'm game, provided we build a Berlin Wall around California.  That would make for one hell of a shovel-ready project.

That's two votes for Chinafornia.

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traelin0
Message #1863 - 12/05/10 05:32 AM

That's two votes for Chinafornia.

We owe them a wad of dough.  It's not like the creditor won't come calling.  It'd be a win-win!  They could strip mine the Sierras and export over land on pre-constructed infrastructure, we'd rid ourselves of a state in utter chaos, and we'd pay off our debt to them, LOL.  Heck, all it would cost us is changing several thousand flags to account for the loss of a star!

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Stay Put
Message #1864 - 12/05/10 05:47 AM

Heck, all it would cost us is changing several thousand flags to account for the loss of a star!

Not if we finally get tired of the Mexican problem, and just invade them, and add them as the new 50th state.

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Stay Put
Message #1865 - 12/05/10 05:52 AM

We could name it New, New Mexico.  It would take us about six months of hard core fighting with their most powerful forces, the drug cartel, and then we can move our drug problem to just one boarder (Mexico). 

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Stay Put
Message #1866 - 12/05/10 05:59 AM

The only way that Chinafornia would work, though, is if every last ****/lesb, women libbers, left wing radical, socialist/communist is forced to move there.  None of them get to live in the USA.

[Virgil Showlion]

ungenteel
Message #1867 - 12/05/10 06:59 AM

Only after we defeat the Progressives in 2012.

A curious "we"

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1868 - 12/05/10 12:47 PM

A curious "we"

             "we" = New World Order  Groups who advocate the doctrines in the "Turner Diaries" as their Bible..and here's a few examples of that  paranoia and delusional extremist thinking:

 

              After we totally crush "all" of you Progressives/Commies, we are going to demand that all of you traitors be arrested, tried, and hung by the neck for high treason.  You people don't rate a bullet.

 

 

It has been instilled in me that the only good defense is an outstanding offense.  If anyone came to harm my loved ones, to try and take away by force the food that will allow us to survive a melt down, then yes, I would kill without hesitation.  If using deadly force to protect my loved ones makes me "blood thirsty", then so be it. 

 

Concrete cowboys, in any mental state, trying to go up against a group of fully trained ex-Marines, soldiers, and avid hunters, which my group encompasses, will not only hold them off but will see a serious decrease in the Texas census

            However California doesn't have any "Concrete Cowboys" out here to go up against this group.  CA National Guard's doing OK,  & Arnold Schwarzenegger is still here for a few more weeks, and then Jerry Brown takes over as our governor..... maybe that is why California may be in their sights as their next target after Texas??

 

           But seriously and back to reality...a cutoff of jobless benefits in CA will have a far-reaching impact on the state's fragile economy so I don't think China would be interested.  IMHO

 

            Estimates are that statewide CA has @ 1.4 million receiving UI benefits  Many have already drained the CalWorks program that has just about gone bankrupt because of the increase  for Human Services Agency help....since 2005 Medi Cal and food stamps rate for the unemployed has doubled. And this date could be why the New World Order groups are obsessing so much  over California...??   But who knows how pathological & narcissistic militants think??

          

 

 

 

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cedaredge
Message #1869 - 12/06/10 12:14 AM

RDT....................I checked out that phone number just for the hell of it and it turned out to be "order Avon products by phone".......................
Oh well

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1870 - 12/06/10 12:43 AM



   In reply to Msg # 1869:           

 

     You dialed the wrong number if you got Avon.   Call [phone] & they are closed on weekends. So check it out on Monday after 09:00 AM PST (San Diego,CA)..and select option #3..

                                    

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fiscana
Message #1871 - 12/06/10 05:49 AM

RDT, your #1868 is awesome. Now we have a one stop shop for some of the greatest paragraphs to be seen on these forums. If anything, you're just solidifying the "delusional and extremist" thinking. Not to worry, you're still pretty cool.

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1872 - 12/06/10 02:10 PM

Message #1859
12/04/10 07:15 PM Well I made the call RDT but they said they were no longer responding to inquiries from Canadians, then promptly hung up in my face. Please follow up

 

 

OK fiscan will do in @ 3 hours or after 09:00AM PST,  .. 

[Virgil Showlion]

traelin0
Message #1873 - 12/06/10 08:11 PM

and then Jerry Brown takes over as our governor

How do you feel about that BTW?

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cedaredge
Message #1874 - 12/06/10 08:22 PM

RDT.................I called that number again but this time I got LOUIE'S PIZZA in Hayward. So I was thinking I'd make the call worthwhile and wanted to send over a calimari pizza to you but, damn it, I didn't have your address..........................

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traelin0
Message #1875 - 12/06/10 09:44 PM

Where the heck is Hayward???  LOL

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safeharbor37
Message #1876 - 12/07/10 03:50 AM



[phone]

[www.whitepages.com/business/us-govt-san-diego-ca-26] US Govt

• 357056 PO Box
  
• San Diego, CA  

[www.whitepages.com/business/anti-submarine-warfare-training-center-san-diego-ca-1] Anti-submarine Warfare Training Center

• Harbor Drive & Nimitz Blvd
  
• San Diego, CA  

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Stay Put
Message #1877 - 12/07/10 04:13 AM

Try Florida (Combat Diving School), where one of the Marine training requirements actually takes place.  Then call Ft. Benning GA.

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traelin0
Message #1878 - 12/07/10 05:11 PM

Try Florida (Combat Diving School), where one of the Marine training requirements actually takes place.  Then call Ft. Benning GA.

Now I'm completely confused.  I thought USMC jump school was at Camp Geiger...?

[Virgil Showlion]

ReformedDayTrade
Message #1879 - 12/07/10 05:16 PM



» Marine Corps Bases

 

 

www.leatherneck.com/forums/view.php?pg=mcunits

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fiscana
Message #1880 - 12/07/10 05:23 PM

I thought USMC jump school was at Camp Geiger...?

What about Fort Bragg? How is an isolated Canadian supposed to keep up with all this?

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1881 - 12/07/10 05:33 PM

__________________
"The government cannot give to anyone anything that it does not first take from someone else"

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1882 - 12/07/10 05:41 PM



Anyone want to buy a used  Pick Up??  It comes with a cooler and shot gun rack..in case you have to confront any Concrete Cowboys driving around Houston Texas...and BOSE  CD Changer for all your Willy & The boys CD's....

 

 

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billisonboard
Message #1883 - 12/07/10 05:49 PM

"The government cannot give to anyone anything that it does not first take from someone else"

I freely give my tax money.  The government doesn't take it.  You might be a victim.  I am not.

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safeharbor37
Message #1884 - 12/07/10 10:00 PM

I freely give my tax money. 

        Oh. So they give you a choice.

The government doesn't take it.

        It doesn't have to when you give it up "freely."

You might be a victim.  I am not.

       Just relax and enjoy it. Might as well.

[Virgil Showlion]

Stay Put
Message #1885 - 12/07/10 10:06 PM

I freely give my tax money.  The government doesn't take it.

What if you decided not to "give" it to them, for oh let's say, one year or so.  Would the government still not "take it"?  Do you think that they would be OK with that?  Finally, you are free to give whatever you like, as long as it belongs to "you".  What you are not free to give, is what belongs to "me" and everybody else.

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1886 - 12/09/10 02:33 PM

Did anyone bother making the call today?  Somebody?

             Two did make that call this past weekend; your best bud Cedaredge, and our Senior MSN Moderator; Mr. Safeharbor but only one got the correct number and he posted the information for you all (msg#1876)...

 

            

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billisonboard
Message #1887 - 12/09/10 03:58 PM

What if you decided not to "give" it to them, for oh let's say, one year or so. 

What if...  Fun game.  Totally foolish.  We have continuing obligations that I have agreed to pay.  Remember, we are "they". [www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html] www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcr?ipt.html

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traelin0
Message #1888 - 12/10/10 03:41 AM

Moonbeam is now saying Californication has a $28B budget deficit.  LOL what's a few billion here and there? 

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ungenteel
Message #1889 - 12/10/10 04:21 AM

Moonbeam is now saying Californication has a $28B budget deficit.  LOL what's a few billion here and there?

Dems don't get it that spending will need to be cut  .. worse yet .. repubs are so clueless that they still harbor a fantasy that taxes will not need to be raised ... I live in California  .. I proudly voted for Brown .. given the alternative

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traelin0
Message #1890 - 12/10/10 04:27 AM

Dems don't get it that spending will need to be cut  .. worse yet .. repubs are so clueless that they still harbor a fantasy that taxes will not need to be raised ... I live in California  .. I proudly voted for Brown .. given the alternative

Neither party will ever get it IMHO.  Yet, it's very difficult to make the case to the masses that they must be austere in their expectations of govt., when the same govt. is simultaneously blowing infinite moral hazard by bailing out banks, insurers, auto companies, Fannie/Freddie, etc.  This was my primary fear 3 years ago, that moral hazard would lead to collapse.  And this is why the banks should have failed, so as to let the cleansing process lead us to a better place.  I have heard too many people say, "Well the govt. bailed out the bigwigs, so screw it, I'll play jingle mail with my house keys, etc."  It's hard to counter this point and this is why we should have never been in the bailout business.

[Virgil Showlion]

Stay Put
Message #1891 - 12/10/10 05:03 AM

What if...  Fun game.  Totally foolish.  We have continuing obligations that I have agreed to pay.

If you are going to change your argument, you would think that you would at least let your first silly statement get buried under a couple of pages.  Instead, you wrote this insipid statement four posts above.

I freely give my tax money.  The government doesn't take it. 

You do not "give" anything.  The government "takes" it.  Your frame of mind, about having the government take your income, has absolutely no bearing on your blatantly misguided statement.  Here's an idea.  What if all of you Liberals who love to give the government your money, give them 90%, and all of us Conservatives will be required to give a maximum of 10%.  Everyone walks away happy.  Oh.  BTW, the purpose of the government is to protect us from foreign invaders.  It was NEVER intended, nor is it written to the contrary, that it was to grow as large as it has become.  It was also NEVER intended to generate any of the Socialist programs that have been forced upon all of America in the dead of night.

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traelin0
Message #1892 - 12/20/10 08:01 PM

Wait a minute, is the collapse happening in the fall of 2009 or the fall of 2011...?

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traelin0
Message #1893 - 12/20/10 08:02 PM



sanity seems to think it's happening in 2011, but I gotta tell ya, I'm confuzzled now...

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AKA sanityjones
Message #1894 - 12/20/10 08:03 PM

Who knows?? I'm getting really confused and frustrated over this whole affair. First it's '09 then '10 now some idiot (me) started a forecast for a 2011 melt down. Sheesh.

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traelin0
Message #1895 - 12/20/10 08:09 PM

Either the Mayans or MSN will terminate these precious threads. 

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1896 - 12/20/10 08:27 PM

Wait a minute, I loaded up on guns, ammo, food, water, and read the "Turner Diaries" but the Concrete Cowboys never showed up out here to take away all of my stuff....They must have been tied down in Houston Texas or decided to take on the illlegal immigrants coming across our southern borders. Or maybe the Concrete Cowboys just wanted your corn or ethanol...??

[Virgil Showlion]

AKA sanityjones
Message #1897 - 12/20/10 08:53 PM

but the Concrete Cowboys never showed up out here to take away all of my stuff....

I think La Raza is in charge of your geographical area RDT. Look for hoards of short little dudes with dark skin, sporting neck tattoos and pencil mustaches.............then you will know for certain that the time is at hand.

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fiscana
Message #1898 - 12/20/10 09:55 PM



Concrete Cowboys. ha aha hahah h ah ah ah a hah ah ah ah ah ah ah ahahh a

I still laugh every time I see that.

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fiscana
Message #1899 - 12/20/10 09:58 PM



Make the calls guys

Oh man, what are we going to do without this thread. I could write a program to suck every page out of it but I'm too lazy to do it. What a pity.

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safeharbor37
Message #1900 - 12/20/10 10:23 PM



A better topic would be:

        When the Economic Collapse Predicted Hits Whenever Will You Be Prepared?

            Then you'd have a readymade thread ready for the next Chicken Little.

                Oh! That's right. It's all over.        Nevermind.

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Stay Put
Message #1901 - 12/21/10 04:46 AM



If there is anyone who can still, with a straight face, try to convince others that we are in any way, shape or form of a recovery, I ask that you list your irrefutable facts.  I said FACTS, not political spin or other government hype.  The government has asserted that we have no inflation.  What they failed to mention, however, is that they intentionally left out food and energy when they did their calculations.  This is intentional disinformation being disseminated to the public, and a perfect example of govt. spin (lies).

For those who are so anal as to focus all of their attention onto my timing, for the collapse I have called, I would only say this.  Instead of attacking me, you should all be thanking me for calling the alarm.  Every day that our corrupt government has spent our tax dollars in putting off the inevitable was a day that every American had to get his or her own household in order, and to prepare for the onslaught still to come.

As to focusing on the timing of the coming collapse, I would hope that everyone is rather focusing on getting themselves and their families as secured as humanly possible.  Our government is hell bent on spending us into total insolvency, so as to usher us into a New World Order.  Believe or don't believe.  At this point in time, it is far past belief.

You know.  I bought all of those cans of fix-a-flat, and that emergency car kit, and I have yet to use any of it.  Until just now, I haven't given any of those items a second thought in quite a while.  In spite of the fact that I have yet to use any of those items, it gives me a sense of security knowing that they are there in the event that I ever do need them.  I think that the real crazy types are those who are so irresponsible that they are prepared for nothing that this life can throw at them.

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fiscana
Message #1902 - 12/21/10 06:40 AM

What they failed to mention, however, is that they intentionally left out food and energy

I've been fighting that battle against buffoons for 2 years running. They still believe the CPI on food is 2.5 - 3.0%, just like the paid government tells them it is. No use. The only thing I can offer them is my signature. If you have only $500 spare cash it should get you a semi-auto .22 and some ammo. Good enough for most circumstances.

[Virgil Showlion]

ReformedDayTrade
Message #1903 - 12/21/10 01:19 PM

Instead of attacking me, you should all be thanking me for calling the alarm. 

            Ok thanx but remember the guy who cried "wolf" ad infinitum...

 

I've been fighting that battle against buffoons for 2 years running.

                 New Flash the lastest updated score announced by Reuters News:.....  Buffoons 4   Fiscana 0...

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cedaredge
Message #1904 - 12/21/10 02:22 PM

Just one more year till the end of the world as we know it............................can't wait!!!!!!

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Rewnti
Message #1905 - 12/21/10 02:30 PM

I think we will be fine once the death squads get in full awing and bodies are reprocessed into food at a faster rate.

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1906 - 12/21/10 02:32 PM

          Yea but living in FEMA Camps may not make your day..

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traelin0
Message #1907 - 12/21/10 05:43 PM

I am pleased to announce that I have migrated the entire Corn/Heating Oil thread, exactly as it was posted, and I am up to Page 16 of this thread. 

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safeharbor37
Message #1908 - 12/21/10 06:03 PM

If there is anyone who can still, with a straight face, try to convince others that we are in any way, shape or form of a recovery, I ask that you list your irrefutable facts. 

1] All facts are irrefutable in a sense but of course anyone can refute anything no matter how irrationally.

2] "....any way, shape or form of a recovery,...." Of course we are. The problem is that you want it to go back to the way it was ~ unsustainable. Not only is that not to be expected, but it wouldn't be a good thing.

3] Of course we're in a recovery. It's just that it won't be the same as before. It's like losing your leg. You can recover, but your leg doesn't grow back.

4] What we have to do is adapt to the new reality ~ whatever that is ~ and try to accept the things which are inevitable, fix the things we can and seek to determine which is which.

5] Survivors survive, the others don't [or at least don't have much fun.]

[Virgil Showlion]

AKA sanityjones
Message #1909 - 12/21/10 06:07 PM

I am pleased to announce that I have migrated the entire Corn/Heating Oil thread, exactly as it was posted, and I am up to Page 16 of this thread.

Only 143 more pages to go........

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AKA sanityjones
Message #1910 - 12/21/10 06:10 PM

Ooops..........144 now. 


I'm thinking of starting a 'When Traelin0 goes insane from his attempt at copying the "when the economic collapse happens this fall will you be prepared" will we be prepared' thread.

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Stay Put
Message #1911 - 12/21/10 11:22 PM

3] Of course we're in a recovery. It's just that it won't be the same as before. It's like losing your leg. You can recover, but your leg doesn't grow back.

4] What we have to do is adapt to the new reality ~ whatever that is

Excuse me?  "Of course we're in a recovery.  Whatever that is".  How can you say that we are in a recovery, if you don't even know what a recovery  is?  My challenge was for irrefutable 'FACTS'.  I did not ask anyone to sit there and tell us what they really, really hope for, or what they may even decide to believe in based on squat.  I asked for facts.  Irrefutable facts of a recovery.  It has nothing to do with what you, me or anyone may want to believe, but rather what can be proven.

Fact.  There is actually no hard core data that can, without spin or political manipulation, support any assertions of an actual recovery(.)  We are not out of the woods by any stretch.  We have simply made it to the top of the mountainous roller-coaster track, and are about to freefall to the bottom.  The problem is, all of the safety measures that normally exist have been completely removed so enjoy the ride down.

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1912 - 12/21/10 11:55 PM

Economic Outlook [www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/economic_outlook/#businessspending] Business spending About 18% growth in '10; 9% in '11 [www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/economic_outlook/#gdp] GDP Averaging 2.8% growth in '10; about 3.5% in '11 [www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/economic_outlook/#trade] Trade deficit Edging up to $525 billion in '11 [www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/economic_outlook/#ir] Interest rates Prime at 3.25% through '11 [www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/economic_outlook/#energy] Energy Trading in mid-$80s/bbl. into '11 [www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/economic_outlook/#inflation] Inflation About 1% in '10; 1.5% in '11 [www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/economic_outlook/#housing] Housing sales Anemic growth again in '11 [www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/economic_outlook/#employment] Unemployment Over 9.5% by end '10; below 9% in '11 [www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/economic_outlook/#retail] Retail sales Modest growth continuing into '11   BUSINESS SPENDING Last updated: Dec. 1, 2010

Business activity continues to make a solid contribution to the economy, but some emerging patterns warrant close attention.

Inventory addition in the third quarter amounted to $111.5 billion, contributing 1.3 percentage points to gross domestic product. That pace is unlikely to continue. Demand from consumers and other businesses is solid but not strong enough to sustain large-scale stocking of shelves and warehouses.

Orders for durable goods in October fell, and the decline was broad based, unlike in September, when there was an increase that was due largely to a doubling of orders for commercial airplanes. Averaged over the past three months, the trend is up overall.

Look for the pace of gains to slow somewhat into early 2011. Production of equipment and software rose 23% annualized during the first half of this year. Second half growth is likely to wind up in the neighborhood of 15% annualized. For 2011, expect an increase of about 12% for the year. Businesses also will moderate their buildup of inventory, exercising caution in the face of the slow economic recovery.

Construction remains the weakest element of business investment. Vacancy rates are at a peak for offices and industrial space, but sluggish economic growth means vacancies are likely to plateau during 2011 rather than fall off quickly.[www.census.gov/manufacturing/m3/] Census Bureau: Durable Goods Report
[www.census.gov/mtis/www/mtis_current.html] Census Bureau: Business Inventories
[www.census.gov/const/www/c30index.html] Census Bureau: Construction Activity
GDP Last updated: Dec. 10, 2010

GDP will get a boost from the tax deal being worked out by President Obama and the Republicans. Look for GDP growth, previously expected to match this year’s 2.8% gain, to advance to about 3.5% for 2011. The 2.8% pace, though much improved over the 2009 decline of 2.6%, still is subpar for a recovery. In fact, the sluggish growth that followed a rousing 2009 fourth quarter (5% annualized growth) and first quarter of this year (3.7% annualized growth) has been raising fears that the economy may tumble into recession again. The White House-GOP pact slams the door on that worry.

The agreement extends unemployment benefits, cuts payroll taxes and adds some inducements for companies to buy new equipment. All of that reinforces growth that is being fueled by both consumer spending and business investment. As they strive for efficiency and cutting costs, companies are increasing their purchases of equipment -- up 16.8% on an annualized basis in the third quarter. Firms are more cautious when it comes to shelling out dollars for buildings, however. Expenditures on new plants or other facilities declined 5.7% (annualized) last quarter. Meanwhile, consumer spending rose at a 2.8% yearly pace, the highest since the end of 2006. Next year, consumer spending likely will increase a bit more slowly -- at a rate of about 2.5%. More than that would require a big pickup in job creation. Consumer spending accounts for about 70% of GDP.

There are some negatives. About half of the third quarter’s increase came from businesses adding to inventory. Looking ahead, inventory building is likely to slow, given the current pace of consumer spending. Also, in the third quarter, imports increased at an annual rate of 16.8%, swamping the benefit of a 6.3% (annualized) rise in exports. Taking those numbers together, American purchases of goods and services from overseas subtracted almost two percentage points from overall GDP. Also, the federal stimulus approved in 2009 is winding down, so the third quarter’s 8.9% increase (annualized) in federal spending will lessen from

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1913 - 12/22/10 12:00 AM

[www.bea.gov/national/index.htm#gdp] Dept. of Commerce: GDP Data INTEREST RATES Last updated: Dec. 14, 2010

Look for the Federal Reserve to keep its benchmark short-term interest rate near zero through 2011. With inflation at a low of around 1% and unemployment high at 9.8%, the central bank's greatest concern is warding off deflation and a recurrence of recession. The Fed, of course, also wants job creation and a drop in the unemployment rate. But with banks cautious about lending and borrowers leery of taking on more debt, that's difficult to engineer.

Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke hopes that pumping more dollars into the credit markets will give the economy more time to strengthen. Because there's no room to cut interest rates further, the Fed is on a program to buy up to $600 billion in long-term Treasuries between now and mid-2011. Bernanke's critics on the policy-setting Federal Open Market Committee say the new round of easing won't succeed and will only sow the seeds for unwanted inflation in the months ahead. The chairman thinks it's worth the risk.

Buying debt, called "quantitative easing," worked in 2009, when the central bank bought nearly $1.5 trillion in mortgage backed debt plus about $300 billion worth of Treasury debt. The move helped send mortgage rates to record lows. Until the summer swoon took the starch out of economic growth, the Fed had planned to let that debt mature.

Critics of Bernanke’s second round of buying bonds point out that long-term interests are going up. Indeed, the 10-year Treasury’s yield has risen a half percentage point to 3.3% in just the past month. But supporters of Bernanke’s plan say rates are up not out of inflation worries but in anticipation that the economy will be stronger in 2011 and the Fed will be comfortable then in tightening credit.

By early next year, the FOMC will develop an "exit strategy" to reduce its Treasury holdings. That will be a form of gradual credit tightening. A rate hike will come later. So look for the prime rate to remain at its present level, 3.25%, probably through 2011. Meanwhile, because of new fiscal stimulus in tandem with the Fed’s bond buying, long-term rates will be higher than previously expected. We expect the rate for 10-year Treasury notes to vacillate between 3.25% and 3.75% next year, ending 2011 near the higher end of that range.[www.federalreserve.gov/fomc/] Federal Open Market Committee INFLATION Last updated: Dec. 15, 2010

Inflation will pick up only modestly next year, rising to about 1.5% for 2011, measuring from December 2010 to December 2011. The Consumer Price Index rose just 0.1% in November, leaving inflation over the past 12 months at 1.1%. By year-end, the 12-month figure will wind up at just 1%.

Core inflation, which strips out energy and food prices, will rise even more slowly. The core CPI increased 0.1% in November and just 0.8% over the past 12 months. That’s the slowest pace since this data set began in 1958, and the chief reason Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke remains more concerned about the possibility of deflation.

But the economy is gradually absorbing the sum of the excess resources. The number of jobs in the private sector, for example, is increasing, albeit slowly, leading us to believe that inflation will increase mildly in the coming year, though still remain very low. That means deflation also remains unlikely. Indeed, the components of the CPI show a mixed picture. For instance, gasoline prices rose a scant 0.7% in November, while medical prices also increased, but just 0.2%. Over the past 12 months, prices increased for medical care and used cars, while they declined for new cars, apparel and recreation. Food, up overall, was also mixed. Prices for beverages, dairy goods and eggs were higher last month, while fruits and vegetables fell.

Going forward, there is still enough slack in the economy to curb price increases for several months. Makers of beer, coffee, tires and breakfast cereals, among others, aren’t able to pass along much of the rise in commodity prices, which are up 20% to 100% in some cases this year.

[www.kiplinger.com/businessresource/economic_outlook/#businessspending] www.kiplinger.

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safeharbor37
Message #1914 - 12/22/10 03:31 AM

We are not out of the woods by any stretch. 

  Of course not. We live in the woods. It's when you think you're out of the woods that the bear eats you.

    The "recovery" of the late nineties simply led to the "dot.com" bust and the recovery after 9/11 turned out to be a Real Estate fiasco ~ leading to the recession we think we're in now.

      You see; you can only recover from a recession [depression, bust, etc.] and you can only crash after a recovery. That's reality.

        Reality bites, but it bites worse when you're not facing it.

[Virgil Showlion]

AKA sanityjones
Message #1915 - 12/22/10 03:37 AM

Looks like some "hair of the dog" is needed here...............................and remember, what doesn't kill you just makes you stronger.

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traelin0
Message #1916 - 12/22/10 04:20 AM

Looks like some "hair of the dog" is needed here...............................and remember, what doesn't kill you just makes you stronger.

Well...those who have prepared at least.  As for the rest, they'll have some lots for the survivors to purchase on the cheap.  I won't be crying.

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1917 - 12/22/10 05:01 AM

Not to worry Obama has had a change of heart and now says the Bush Tax Cuts that he once blamed for all our economic woes will now be a win for our economy and help our growth rate and unemployment. He now loves the Bush tax cuts after blaming them for the recession in 2008 and slow growth in 2009 & 2010...and when his critics get nasty since they think this is BS...Obama always has basketball and golf..

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traelin0
Message #1918 - 12/22/10 05:07 AM

Obama is a lock for one and done, but IMHO there won't be much left to salvage.  I suppose this is what it took for Dummycrats to wake up and see their corpgov party as the same as the Rethuglicans.

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1919 - 12/22/10 05:29 AM

The Bush tax cuts are really another $835 Billion Stimulus that Obama is hoping and praying will finally improve the economy.  His economic advisors are predicting  2011 GDP @3.5% - @ 4.0% and Kiplinger is predicing GDP @3.5% for next year...

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Stay Put
Message #1920 - 12/22/10 06:45 AM

The Bush tax cuts are really another $835 Billion Stimulus that Obama is hoping and praying will finally improve the economy. 

Again with the "hoping".  Even your above list is nothing more than a list of contradictions, hope, possible, maybe............  I said "Irrefutable Facts".  I also specifically said, "No Spin".  Peel away the cloudy layers over your eyes, and look at the facts behind the spin.  Holiday part time jobs.  Holiday spending.  Government spending that accounts for most of the so called GDP.....................I'm not asking for you to be a genius.  I was just hoping for at least two firing brain cells that could discern between fact and fiction.  There in lies the optimist in me. And then someone like you comes along and makes me rethink my opinion of even people that I disagree with.

[Virgil Showlion]

ReformedDayTrade
Message #1921 - 12/22/10 11:30 AM

Does anyone see an Economic Collapse here??  Do you see the so called glass half full or are we all doomed with Armageddon on it's way??         The blue chips top 11,500 for the first time since 2008.   BRIEFING.COM] The stock market advanced for the tenth time in 11 sessions to set a new two-year high as financials provided leadership in the face of a narrow gain by the greenback. However, action was generally anemic again as share volume dwindled.

The major stock indices of both Europe and Asia moved markedly higher overnight. Their gains helped inspire buying at home, such that domestic averages gapped higher in the early going.

Financials were quick to provide leadership to the broader market as the sector settled with a 1.6% gain. Bank stocks were especially strong. Diversified banks

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fiscana
Message #1922 - 12/22/10 12:48 PM

.....................I'm not asking for you to be a genius.  I was just hoping for at least two firing brain cells that could discern between fact and fiction.

haa  aa hhah ahaah ah ah ah h ah aha h a hah ah ah a h ah a

Sorry trae, one more post for you to copy.

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1923 - 12/22/10 12:49 PM



fiscan.......did you make the call??

 

 

619) 524-1011

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fiscana
Message #1924 - 12/22/10 12:59 PM

fiscan.......did you make the call??

Actually I thought you two had sorted it out a while back. The tag numbers you provided to Stay Put finally sunk in because you were there something like 20 years earlier? "Make the calls tomorrow guys" - dude, its way too early for this!

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1925 - 12/22/10 01:04 PM

 The tag numbers you provided to Stay Put finally sunk in because you were there something like 20 years earlier? "Make the calls tomorrow guys" - dude, its way too early for this!

              Tag numbers?? Is that a Canadian thing?? 

  Long Sam's first rule of dealing with Bullies is Stay Calm. Here is more on how you can do this when confronted.

Act brave. When you're scared of another person, you're probably not feeling your bravest. But sometimes just acting brave is enough to stop a bully. If you walk by as though you're not afraid and hold your head high, a bully may be less likely to give you trouble.
Ignore a bully. Simply ignoring a bully's threats and walking away robs the bully of his or her fun. Bullies want a big reaction to their teasing and meanness. Acting as if you don't notice and don't care is like giving no reaction at all, and this just might stop a bully's behavior.
Stand up for yourself. Kids can stand up for themselves with words by telling the bully to stop it, and then walk away. Kids also can stand up for each other by telling a bully to stop teasing or scaring someone else, and then walk away together.
Be a buddy. Kids who are being bullied can use the buddy system. Make a plan to walk with a friend or two on the way to school or recess or lunch or wherever you think you might meet the bully. Offer to do the same for a friend who's having trouble with a bully.
Don't bully back. Don't hit, kick, or push back to deal with someone bullying you or your friends. Fighting back just satisfies a bully and it's dangerous, too, because someone could get hurt. It's best to stay with others, stay safe, and get help from an adult. 
LongSam is very good a comebacks when she is being bullied, but we all aren't so great at it. Below are some lines you can practice and use when bullies are trying to put you down. Remember these are for situations where there is no threat of violence. If there is every violence you must get away and report this abuse to your friendly Moderators...
  And under no circumstances should you resort to ....GUNS AND PLENTY OF AMMO



Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=fun&thread=105&page=7#ixzz18qcLffse

 

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Stay Put
Message #1926 - 12/22/10 11:44 PM

Nice list RDT.  The problem is, everyone knows the real you, and I doubt ANYONE (left/right) would EVER want you as a Mod again.

[Virgil Showlion]

ReformedDayTrade
Message #1927 - 12/23/10 04:29 AM

Nice list RDT. 

          Thank you, I guess  A Mad Mod again??  I don't think so I have better things to do

 

BTW FYI if you want to be a member of another board you ought to refrain from posting all of your GLBT stuff ... I know you are ecstatic with the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell but not everyone shares your views on that lifestyle...but at least you don't  push your phony claim to have served in the Marines anymore so maybe there is hope for you yet, but I doubt it..

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fiscana
Message #1929 - 12/23/10 02:44 PM

bah ahh ah a hah h ah ah ah  ha hahah a h ahh ah ahah aha   for god sakes, here we go again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Virgil Showlion]

Value-Buy
Message #1933 - 12/24/10 12:35 PM



RDT, stay above the fray..........

The collapse did not happen, and the Dow and other markets are all coming off good gains, and looking progressively strong for the coming months, unless Pelosi, and the President can mess it up somehow.

For some reason, I believe the President has finally realized, he cannot do it (the economic reinvigoration)without Wallstreet helping him.

Maybe he got the memo from his comrades in Moscow and Bejing, telling him that being pro business can be a good thing.

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1934 - 12/24/10 01:14 PM

RDT, stay above the fray..........

    VB I usually do and when you get in a mud slinging contest with Pigs you only get dirty and Pigs enjoy it.........how true those words are by Senator John McCain

 

 

         But back to this hilarious OP.....there was NO Economic Collapse and there will be NO Economic Collapse predicted by a very troubled few who are delusional and paranoid about Concrete Cowboys herds in Houston out to take away their food and clothing during a depression worse than the 30s..

 

       That has to be the most obnoxious buffoonery I have read here since joining this board in 2002..

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AKA sanityjones
Message #1935 - 12/24/10 11:53 PM

  That has to be the most obnoxious buffoonery I have read here since joining this board in 2002.

You're the one who typed it.....................

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alex2
Message #1936 - 12/25/10 01:00 AM



More Jobs are screaming out of the country every day. No one in this Government is even talking about solutions. We are told over the last 10 years we are a service economy. Oh and then there was that tech economy.

How can we afford service when there are less and less people working and less and less chance of jobs staying here. In fact aren't these service jobs in India and the Philippines now.

 

When people talk of the recovery What exactly do they mean.??  How can we ever have recovery. Will Government close the borders, stop most immigration, stop supporting Global Unions,throw out the lobbyists, take pay cuts,stop burning our food for fuel,help us buy American,at the same time letting corps come back tax free if they create 3,000 jobs or more? Who cares how much a company earns if they are giving us good paying jobs. This Socialist Administration and their media friends keep making things worse for everyone.

 

Sure, at the moment I am making money in the market. But those of us who are, know that the average Family is loosing ground every day. And living pay check to paycheck. Government having killed the goose.

 

Once These arrogant fools in Washington decide to do their comprehensive lets make a deal immigration reform (compromise) we are finished. With Millions more on the taxpayers dole. more ,broken down uninsured cars on the road, converting our highways to toll roads the new Dem crisis "Water Shortages and Bad water" , Threats to Social Security while giving billions to the IMF and the UN. Government support of Unions!!!! George Soros. Oh Hec!! I give up until after New Years. This is just to depressing.

Ignore this post I have gone off the deep end at last.

 

Fiscan is right more Guns and Ammunition l   

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cedaredge
Message #1938 - 12/29/10 10:18 AM

Finally!  RDT has had his big, fat, old mouth shut.

Huh???
You mean he finally shot himself in the foot???

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cedaredge
Message #1939 - 12/29/10 09:59 PM

I have no idea what StayPut is referring to. Is this some kind of code?

[Virgil Showlion]

diverdown34
Message #1942 - 12/30/10 02:44 PM

You three seem to forget that the rules around here have not changed........  Don't bring your fights from other boards here, and no personal attacks......  Soo, since the three of you cannot seem to get along, ORRR go off to separate corners of the room all three of you have just earned the grand prize of a three day ALL expenses paid vacation to cyber space...........

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Value-Buy
Message #1943 - 12/30/10 04:33 PM

Dibbs on getting the last post on this thread!

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LongSam
Message #1944 - 12/30/10 08:28 PM



By the looks of it, VB, you just may get your wish. 

Stay Put, you are not making points with a lot of people.  

RDT, again for the umteenth time, ignore, ignore, ignore. 

[Virgil Showlion]

Lakhóta
Message #1945 - 12/30/10 08:47 PM



Why does Stay Put keep regurgitating this outdated/worthless conspiracy thread?  It's pitiful...

The original date of this thread was July 2009, but the prophesized apocalypse never materialized.

Hence, what's the point?

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Value-Buy
Message #1946 - 12/31/10 06:09 AM

Well when the banking industry almost collapsed, he was not really to far off the mark.

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Lakhóta
Message #1947 - 12/31/10 07:50 AM

Yeah, but Obama saved us from all that grief.

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alex2
Message #1948 - 01/01/11 11:23 PM

Yeah, but Obama saved us from all that grief. 

      

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Alan S.
Message #1949 - 01/02/11 04:35 AM



Original post in summer of 09 referring to "economic collapse this fall", ie fall of 09. Didn't happen. Also didn't happen in the fall of 2010, and so we move on to the fall of 2011. Like guessing on the time, if you maintain the same guess, eventually you get it right. 

 

 

[Virgil Showlion]

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ReformedDayTrade
Message #1829 - 12/03/10 05:04 PM
              Those were the good ole days....when men were men and women were ashamed of them..and cops in Washington DC would never give out a DUI to any member of congress but rather escort them home and not say a word about it... except if one of the drunken politician's( Wilbur Mills)  passengers jumped out of the car and went into the Potomac and was in the headlines. (Fanny Fox).

 

             If you ever attended the night life in the watering holes along Massachusetts Ave in Washington DC where all the Airline Attendants and members of congress and their staff hung out you would be amazed at how much some members of congress could consume and still drive home..

Now that it's the New Year, maybe the politicians practicing this drunken debauchery are swearing it off???

BTW RDT, you can block certain users from PMing you. Contact me if you want to know how...there's no reason to stay in Guest mode.

[Value Buy]

Message # 1947 from Lakhota:

"Yeh, but Obama saved us from all that grief."


I thought it was all Bush's fault about the bailout. President Obama just followed through on it.

Note: "Obama" comes up on spellcheck. Do the Proboards know something we don't?

[traelin0]

cedaredge
Message #1869 - 12/06/10 12:14 AM

RDT....................I checked out that phone number just for the hell of it and it turned out to be "order Avon products by phone".......................
Oh well

cedar, how many boxes of Avon did you order?

[traelin0]

OK.

So we survived the EC of 2009.

We survived the EC of 2010.

Perhaps the Economic Collapse will be this winter??? Or will it be in the fall of 2011???

[sanityjones]

Good luck everyone, whatever may happen. I'm pulling a Goober, see ya.....................

[traelin0]

Jan 12, 2011 0:22:43 GMT -5 @sanityjones said:

Good luck everyone, whatever may happen. I'm pulling a Goober, see ya.....................

Say it ain't so, man...

[burnsattornincan]

What is this? I see Mr. sanityjones does not have the administrator title. Does this finally mean my client the esteemed Mr. fiscan will get his just dessert?

< If they ask you at the door to put your keys in the fish bowl just show them my business card and they will tell you to keep them in your pocket. >

canattorneyyou

[traelin0]

Stay Put
Message #29 - 07/19/09 12:38 AM
RDT is either stuck on stupid and can't change gears, or he's a plant.

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Stay Put, I was about to credit cedaredge with the "stuck on stupid" comment, but unfortunately his post didn't occur until page 5.

And yes, the American voters have been stuck on stupid with respect to money and energy because they have continually voted for morons.