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Post by ontrack on Nov 2, 2012 11:23:20 GMT -5
I got the feeling he wasn't yelling, just playing quietly in his room...
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Post by sheilaincali on Nov 2, 2012 11:36:35 GMT -5
Leaving him in his room is fine (I guess- but I don't really agree with it) for a normal kid. But Doxie has been trying to explain to us for months and month now on how her son is smarter than all other children his age and is an escape artist and always into everything. That to me is a recipe for disaster.
I just remember one of my driver's calling back to the office for me to get outside because there was a toddler running around in the busy street. I pounded on every door on that block hoping to find his mother while at the same time calling the cops. She stumbled out of her house about 30 seconds before the cops got there. Didn't ask me to give her back her kid or anything. Claimed her little brother must have forgotten to lock the door when he left for work that morning. This was like 10am and I had been in possession of the kid for nearly 15 minutes at this point. So no- I don't agree with ignoring your small, not yet 2 year old while you decide to go back to sleep. Way too many things can happen.
Now if you are talking about ignoring them talking/playing in their room while they are supposed to be having nap time and you are awake and in another room that's one thing. But to fall back asleep and ignore a kid for hours because you don't feel like waking up that early that's not something I'd personally be comfortable doing.
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Post by Angel! on Nov 2, 2012 11:45:50 GMT -5
I got the feeling he wasn't yelling, just playing quietly in his room... That is what I thought. I don't see that as a problem, I wouldn't always get up just because I heard one of the kids playing. It depends on the kid & what they can get into. Both my were in cribs & couldn't get out & would play happily many mornings. Now if the kid is yelling or needs something that is a different story. You get up & take care of your kid. You don't leave them locked in a room with no interaction because you aren't ready to get up.
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Post by michelyn8 on Nov 2, 2012 11:52:18 GMT -5
I can't even ignore my dog quietly whining outside my bedroom door at 5:45 am if she needs to go potty and you are able to ignore the yelling of a not even 2 year old and just what? go back to sleep? I gotta call BS on that. With my dog I'm worried she'll pee on the floor. But you are apparently fine ignoring what you describe as a high maintenance kid that gets into everything and is practically the reincarnation of Harry Freaking Houdini and while you roll over and go back to sleep? You are braver than I would be. ETA- this comment was directed at Doxie's claim that they just leave the boy to his own devices in his room if he wakes up earlier than they want to. His room is baby proof and he cant get out of his room. He plays in his room until we get him, around 7. You leave him alone at age 2 in a presumably locked room for 2 hours? I was a somewhat lazy mom at first (late teens, early 20's) but I never left one of my kids alone that long after they woke up. No wonder that boy gives you a hard time - he's lacking in your attention because all you seem to care about is appearances and pleasing your daughter. Why did you bother to even have him if you aren't even willing to do what is best for him as well as your daughter? They boy needs your attention, a schedule that doesn't have him running all over town running errands until just before bedtime, meals at home that aren't always take out, etc. Grow the F*&^ up Doxie and be a mom to BOTH of your children. And part of that means you sacrifice if their NEEDS call for it and this child NEEDS structure and security.
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Post by michelyn8 on Nov 2, 2012 11:55:46 GMT -5
I got the feeling he wasn't yelling, just playing quietly in his room... I don't care what the kid is doing, if you hear him up and moving around, he needs to be checked on. If its 5 am and you want him to go back to sleep, you put him in your bed or crawl into his with him until he falls back to sleep to show him its still sleep time. My ex-uncle in law's son was playing quietly in his room after a nap at age 2 when he caught the house on fire with a lighter he'd found and taken into his room. He didn't see age 3 because the person watching him didn't want to be bothered to deal with him and decided since he was quiet, he didn't need to be checked on.
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Post by sheilaincali on Nov 2, 2012 12:02:23 GMT -5
Considering she says she is only able to spend 90 minutes with him between picking him up from his grandparents and putting him to bed you'd think she'd want to spend some quiet one on one time with the poor kid and not ignore him so she can sleep in.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2012 12:08:00 GMT -5
I've decided to discipline children by making them mop my floor.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 2, 2012 12:08:57 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2012 12:25:35 GMT -5
I would never leave a kid in their room crying/awake for 2 hours. Yes, letting them cry for a little while is fine, but not 2 hours. That makes me seriously sad for the little boy.
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Post by raeoflyte on Nov 2, 2012 13:16:14 GMT -5
My child has never fit into the experts recommended sleep patterns. I beat myself up over it, knowing I was ruining him for life since I couldn't get him to sleep for 10-13 hours per night until I talked to some older mom's with well behaved teenagers. Their routines with their toddlers were much closer to what we had been doing so I chucked the books and just started focusing on what worked about our sleep routines and what didn't. Even though I'm tired these days I really like my early morning time with ds best. We'll see if I feel that way after daylight savings time though.
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Post by Angel! on Nov 2, 2012 13:40:24 GMT -5
My child has never fit into the experts recommended sleep patterns. I beat myself up over it, knowing I was ruining him for life since I couldn't get him to sleep for 10-13 hours per night until I talked to some older mom's with well behaved teenagers. Their routines with their toddlers were much closer to what we had been doing so I chucked the books and just started focusing on what worked about our sleep routines and what didn't. Nothing wrong with that. You go with what works. I just think in Doxie's case it is evident what she is doing isn't working or she wouldn't have a cranky toddler every evening. Poor DD, I remember at 17 months when she started daycare she wasn't ready to go to 1 nap/day. Those were a long first couple weeks as every evening she was exhausted & a complete terror. I can't imagine a kid not even 2 years old handling not having any naps well.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Nov 2, 2012 14:04:30 GMT -5
My child has never fit into the experts recommended sleep patterns. I beat myself up over it, knowing I was ruining him for life since I couldn't get him to sleep for 10-13 hours per night until I talked to some older mom's with well behaved teenagers. Their routines with their toddlers were much closer to what we had been doing so I chucked the books and just started focusing on what worked about our sleep routines and what didn't. Nothing wrong with that. You go with what works. I just think in Doxie's case it is evident what she is doing isn't working or she wouldn't have a cranky toddler every evening. Poor DD, I remember at 17 months when she started daycare she wasn't ready to go to 1 nap/day. Those were a long first couple weeks as every evening she was exhausted & a complete terror. I can't imagine a kid not even 2 years old handling not having any naps well. My son always does nap transitions early. He's in the process of dropping his nap now at almost 3. The first couple days he didn't nap, he fell asleep in his high chair eating supper. I can't imagine if he was a year younger how bad he would be. If he naps, he doesn't get 10hrs of sleep at night (and pretty much never has). As long as the kid is happy, then I try not to obsess. But Doxie's kid isn't happy. Yeah, does not work with a lot of kids. Heck, by 3 months old my son would not fall with me in the room. It was hell. Now it is great because he is a super independant sleeper, but when we go to a hotel, we have to stay out of sight while he falls asleep or he will not fall asleep until we do. My MIL tried to lay down with him on Monday for nap, yeah that was a disaster.
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Post by raeoflyte on Nov 2, 2012 14:12:27 GMT -5
My child has never fit into the experts recommended sleep patterns. I beat myself up over it, knowing I was ruining him for life since I couldn't get him to sleep for 10-13 hours per night until I talked to some older mom's with well behaved teenagers. Their routines with their toddlers were much closer to what we had been doing so I chucked the books and just started focusing on what worked about our sleep routines and what didn't. Nothing wrong with that. You go with what works. I just think in Doxie's case it is evident what she is doing isn't working or she wouldn't have a cranky toddler every evening. Poor DD, I remember at 17 months when she started daycare she wasn't ready to go to 1 nap/day. Those were a long first couple weeks as every evening she was exhausted & a complete terror. I can't imagine a kid not even 2 years old handling not having any naps well. Ds didn't nap yesterday and then I took him to Home Depot at 6pm. I'm still 'glad' I got my stuff done, but I think I'd lose it if every night was like that. And I'd weigh a ton because we all needed Mcdonalds as a reward for not killing each other.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2012 14:13:35 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but this whole thing is hysterical. If Doxie had posted 'my child wakes up at 5 am and stands at the door of his room calling for me, what should I do? I really want to just get him and put him in bed with me.' there would be a dozen posters telling her that is definately the wrong thing to do and he would never sleep later than that because he would want to come into bed with mommy....and he would still be coming into her bed at 10 years old.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Nov 2, 2012 14:13:56 GMT -5
Rae - you are down to your last month of being pregnant, I think you get a free pass for any decisions made at that time.
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Post by raeoflyte on Nov 2, 2012 14:16:34 GMT -5
Rae - you are down to your last month of being pregnant, I think you get a free pass for any decisions made at that time. Hells yes, and I've let everyone know it! Too bad I eventually have to be a grown up again but I'm trying not to think about that too much.
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Post by doxieluvr on Nov 2, 2012 14:47:34 GMT -5
I got the feeling he wasn't yelling, just playing quietly in his room... That is the case. He plays in his room when he gets up. We open his door when someone else gets up. I am always up by 7.
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