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Post by Driftr on Aug 7, 2012 16:33:50 GMT -5
Optimist tested it earlier and it looked like it worked as advertised. Not exactly... there was no test that showed the system replaced the removed text with the statement "references deleted post", which is what shows up in the posts in question. It is obvious that some moderator went in to our posts, deleted the WWBG quote and typed in "references deleted post". That's not a system generated message. Understood. And I for one don't have any problem with WWBG being so upset with himself for what he posted that he felt the need to remove it. I understand many want to have the opportunity to beat him up about it and/or needle him to death with follow-up questions about every last word he wrote (or at least every last word that they chose to copy and paste rather than quote). I don't share that desire.
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Loopdilou
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Post by Loopdilou on Aug 7, 2012 16:33:59 GMT -5
"What punishment are we talking about here? Do you actually want someone banned every time another poster discerns an insult to have been aimed their way" hell no because the sticks up the asses will have me banned daily! Precisely! That's why it isn't done. Ahh, but maybe it should be. The board might be more civil.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Aug 7, 2012 16:34:18 GMT -5
"QuoteGate 2012! "
LMAO!!!
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Post by Miss Tequila on Aug 7, 2012 16:34:49 GMT -5
"Ahh, but maybe it should be. The board might be more civil. " Why, because you would be banned?
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Aug 7, 2012 16:35:29 GMT -5
Civil/ghost town
tomato/tomahto
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Post by Miss Tequila on Aug 7, 2012 16:35:46 GMT -5
"And I for one don't have any problem with WWBG being so upset with himself for what he posted that he felt the need to remove it"
But he should fess up to it...if I had an issue with somethign I posted and a mod deleted it, I'm sure there would be a mention of "deleted by mod" if anyone quoted me. he took the wussy way out
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 7, 2012 16:36:56 GMT -5
If the posts are really hurtful and bullying, then you can report them to the mods, and they can handle it. Isn't that what you are advocating for? Or is it just your opinion that I should shut up because you don't care for my opinion.
I know it sounds like it, but I'm not actually complaining about the response time. I just feel that WWBG should have been subject to the same response time, instead of being able to just do whatever, right away.
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Post by Loopdilou on Aug 7, 2012 16:37:22 GMT -5
"Ahh, but maybe it should be. The board might be more civil. " Why, because you would be banned? Me, you, half the posters... just sayin'
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Post by hoops902 on Aug 7, 2012 16:37:52 GMT -5
Can a mod please delete any quotes of my posts that other posters have quoted in order to argue with me? You shouldn't be allowed to use my own posts against me. THank you,
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Post by milee on Aug 7, 2012 16:38:05 GMT -5
...:::As for your damning characterization of his views, the thread is viewable in its entirety.:::...
No, it's not. One of the main statements that caused the characterization you don't agree with has been removed. Can you not see how this is an issue?
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Post by Miss Tequila on Aug 7, 2012 16:38:19 GMT -5
"Me, you, half the posters... just sayin' "
LOL..yep, and that's what keeps the board from dying
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Post by Miss Tequila on Aug 7, 2012 16:39:17 GMT -5
"Can a mod please delete any quotes of my posts that other posters have quoted in order to argue with me? You shouldn't be allowed to use my own posts against me. THank you"
Didn't you read the CoC??? You have the right to remain silent...if you choose to give up this right, anythign you say can and will be used against you...thems the rules
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Driftr
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Post by Driftr on Aug 7, 2012 16:39:33 GMT -5
Can a mod please delete any quotes of my posts that other posters have quoted in order to argue with me? You shouldn't be allowed to use my own posts against me. THank you, Would you really like to see 95% of your posts disappear that quickly? ;D
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Post by Loopdilou on Aug 7, 2012 16:40:11 GMT -5
"Me, you, half the posters... just sayin' " LOL..yep, and that's what keeps the board from dying Sorry, when I said "half the posters" I was specifically referring to those on EE and P&M.. board should survive that
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Post by hoops902 on Aug 7, 2012 16:40:29 GMT -5
Can a mod please delete any quotes of my posts that other posters have quoted in order to argue with me? You shouldn't be allowed to use my own posts against me. THank you, Would you really like to see 95% of your posts disappear that quickly? ;D Not my posts, I only asked that the quotes of my posts be deleted. The posts can stay, only the quotes go.
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Post by Driftr on Aug 7, 2012 16:41:23 GMT -5
Would you really like to see 95% of your posts disappear that quickly? ;D Not my posts, I only asked that the quotes of my posts be deleted. The posts can stay, only the quotes go. My bad.
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Loopdilou
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Post by Loopdilou on Aug 7, 2012 16:42:00 GMT -5
Ban quoting!!
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Aug 7, 2012 16:42:15 GMT -5
Word. I'd actually like every single quote of mine on the entire board deleted. It's my intellectual property and I don't appreciate you guys using it without getting my written permission first. Except the quote in Firebird's sig. That one can stay because it makes me smile, and it's not actually a direct quote anyway.
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 7, 2012 16:42:39 GMT -5
No need to confess anything. You can look right on the thread and at the bottom of Milee's post it says "Last edited by WeWillBackGowron" and then gives the date and time. I don't think anyone is saying that he didn't make the change. I recall once that Moon said they can't edit - they can delete the whole post, but not edit it. So, either she was stating that she "would not" edit it, or there has been a change in functionality, or something. Either way, if a Mod is in a heated discussion, that mod has the power to restate what another has said. WWBG only edited his own words (apparantly.) So, he did show some good sense.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Aug 7, 2012 16:43:54 GMT -5
Who is WWBG? Can you tell I am very late to the party
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 7, 2012 16:45:51 GMT -5
LOL!
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Post by NoNamePerson on Aug 7, 2012 16:51:25 GMT -5
Dang, it was moving so fast that you must have posted the WWBG full name while I was typing my post. Now I know
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 7, 2012 16:53:00 GMT -5
My question to the folks that will be upset is WWBG is no longer a mod - why is that? Just because you don't want someone else as a mod?
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Post by hoops902 on Aug 7, 2012 16:59:38 GMT -5
My question to the folks that will be upset is WWBG is no longer a mod - why is that? Just because you don't want someone else as a mod? I'd like to see all of his supporters change their posting names to We Will Back We Will Back Gowron
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 7, 2012 17:01:57 GMT -5
He just had to pick up a few things.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Aug 7, 2012 17:04:40 GMT -5
I have no preconceptions about his views on women. As for your damning characterization of his views, the thread is viewable in its EDITED entirety. Virgil, I've seen some of your views on women too so I'm not surprised by your first statement... and I fixed your second one. Per the current rules, WWBG is the sole person who can authorize restoration of the content. If you take exception to the rules, by all means argue the case that quoted content should belong to the quoter rather than the content author. Even assuming WWBG was here (he is not), I'm not going to ask him for permission to hand you a sword so you can gut him with it. He's disavowed the statement. He's apologized. He's self-imposed a ban. He's atoned to the best of his ability. If you want rope to hang him with, maybe mmhmm or one of the other mods will oblige. I'm taking my leave from this thread. "Forgiveness is almost a selfish act because of its immense benefits to the one who forgives." - Lawana Blackwell
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2012 17:06:57 GMT -5
Virgil, I've seen some of your views on women too so I'm not surprised by your first statement... and I fixed your second one. Per the current rules, WWBG is the sole person who can authorize restoration of the content. If you take exception to the rules, by all means argue the case that quoted content should belong to the quoter rather than the content author. Even assuming WWBG was here (he is not), I'm not going to ask him for permission to hand you a sword so you can gut him with it. He's disavowed the statement. He's apologized. He's self-imposed a ban. He's atoned to the best of his ability. If you want rope to hang him with, maybe mmhmm or one of the other mods will oblige. I'm taking my leave from this thread. "Forgiveness is almost a selfish act because of its immense benefits to the one who forgives." - Lawana Blackwell There is no benefit to those who forgive the unforgivable.
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 7, 2012 17:07:57 GMT -5
Except that he just logged in - presumably to answer and/or send PM's. Probably to thank you guys for defending him.
I hope when I do something wrong I can ask for a self-imposed ban, where I can still log on and send my peeps PM's, but I will just not post on any threads where people are asking me hard questions.
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 7, 2012 17:08:02 GMT -5
Only in mmhmm's post where she quoted Opti did it work that way... Hmmm. I went back and saw that now. Curiouser and curiouser... If you'll look at the timing, you'll understand what happened. I was in the process of copying the post for Opti to use when Opti deleted the post. My quote, therefore, showed the post had been deleted. It wasn't something sinister. It was just a matter of timing, folks. As far as I know, there's no difference in the way a quote by a mod is handled and a quote by any other poster is handled by the system. Virgil can correct me if I'm mistaken.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Aug 7, 2012 17:08:46 GMT -5
"Logging in" occurs when you view the page. A ban—any self-imposed ban—implies an inability to post, not an inability to view. ETA: I have NMSNM set as the homepage for the default profile in my FF browser. I "log in" even when I'm not legitimately viewing the site.
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