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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Jul 1, 2011 11:51:25 GMT -5
Ever notice how conservatives are utterly unashamed of their hypocrisy? They really do prove that to know what Conservatives are doing, just see what they're complaining about.
Also ever notice how they talk about liberals as if there aren't any here? Just look at their lack of quoting anyone here.
And that's about the most you can expect from them.
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Post by shelby on Jul 1, 2011 11:56:16 GMT -5
Is there even a point in discussing this with OP...and oh yeah it's the liberals being negative...again wackadoo not to be taken seriously. As far as pointing out the obvious lies and hypocracies is pointless as well. Blinded by hatred is just that blinded.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 1, 2011 11:56:29 GMT -5
No, but I've noticed liberals project quite a bit. Their latest ploy? Republicans are deliberately sabotaging the economy to ensure Obama is defeated. Really? So, governor Christie is a saboteur? Governor Perry is a saboteur? Governor Walker is a saboteur? Governor Daniels is a saboteur? Who was the saboteur, Reagan, or Carter? Republicans are trying to SAVE the country. Democrats are out to destroy it. Because they hate it.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 1, 2011 11:59:16 GMT -5
But in the actual world of reality, it is now the right that hates the US government and all it stands for and some even urge second amendment solutions. Of course we hate it. Have you been paying attention to the topic here? Perhaps you should have a second cup of coffee and come back. The government has morphed into something after 70 years of "porgressive" policies that is far from the principles in the Declaration, and the law of the land- the US Constitution. Amendments are only necessary to head off the aforementioned "judicial review" over correct interpretations.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 1, 2011 12:09:30 GMT -5
Rush Limbaugh and his new venture, "Two If By Tea" is rolling into Freedom Fest in Joplin, Missouri. Very, very patrioitc.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 1, 2011 12:14:47 GMT -5
Is there even a point in discussing this with OP...and oh yeah it's the liberals being negative...again wackadoo not to be taken seriously. As far as pointing out the obvious lies and hypocracies is pointless as well. Blinded by hatred is just that blinded. Why not discuss this study with your view of the OP and provide a credible source for your assumptions..?? Who are the wakadoos and hypocrites you are referring to I don't see any conservatives here blinded by hatred but patriotism instead on this 4th of July..
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 1, 2011 12:16:02 GMT -5
Ever notice how conservatives are utterly unashamed of their hypocrisy? They really do prove that to know what Conservatives are doing, just see what they're complaining about. Also ever notice how they talk about liberals as if there aren't any here? Just look at their lack of quoting anyone here. And that's about the most you can expect from them. This OP is a study by Harvard that has some validity and so if you disagree with this study why not discredit the study instead of those who just posted it and think it is right on... BTW being full or it is better than spewing it all over this board Ma'am
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 1, 2011 12:34:00 GMT -5
Ever notice how conservatives are utterly unashamed of their hypocrisy? They really do prove that to know what Conservatives are doing, just see what they're complaining about. Also ever notice how they talk about liberals as if there aren't any here? Just look at their lack of quoting anyone here. And that's about the most you can expect from them. This OP is a study by Harvard that has some validity and so if you disagree with this study why not discredit the study instead of those who just posted it and think it is right on... BTW being full or it is better than spewing it all over this board Ma'am At the risk of being self-serving... ;D
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Post by shelby on Jul 1, 2011 12:46:15 GMT -5
"Warning to the Libs: That Fourth of July Parade is Likely to Turn Your Kids Into Republicans. And we don't want you at OUR parade anyway-- because as it turns out, it is OUR parade. Not yours."
Why would I have to find a credible source for an opinion this is just opinion from the OP...A very inflammatory opinion I will not take seriously...He and I suspect you have made up your mind that liberals hate America. I find it illogical and pretty strange someone would say that about fellow Americans and call it patriotism.
Ever hear the saying "united we stand, divided we fall" means nothing to you?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 1, 2011 12:50:17 GMT -5
"Warning to the Libs: That Fourth of July Parade is Likely to Turn Your Kids Into Republicans. And we don't want you at OUR parade anyway-- because as it turns out, it is OUR parade. Not yours." Why would I have to find a credible source for an opinion this is just opinion from the OP...A very inflammatory opinion I will not take seriously...He and I suspect you have made up your mind that liberals hate America. I find it illogical and pretty strange someone would say that about fellow Americans and call it patriotism. It's not my call whether the left loves their country and feels patriotic, and is inspired by Independence Day celebrations. I wish they were, but if they're not- how can I help that? And why would I want someone who doesn't feel patriotic, or isn't inspired by the Declaration to come and celebrate it? I stand by my comments. I'm not the one with work to do. I'll leave it to the left to do the self-examination...
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Jul 1, 2011 12:51:40 GMT -5
page 2, reply 52. Were you too lazy to go back a few pages or are you just saying anything and throwing false accusations around to pick a fight? notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=politics&action=display&thread=10321&page=5Here you accuse magichat of commenting on your service (without proving it of course). Ho-hum, more of the same, eh? Maybe you should try something new (the truth would be a good start, IMHO); nobody seems to be buying whatever it is you're selling. And doing both is even worse than that, eh?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 1, 2011 12:52:53 GMT -5
Um, yeah- I have. And I have been disgusted by the far left's strategy of dividing us so we will, in fact, fall.
Conservatives don't live in hyphenated-America.
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Post by shelby on Jul 1, 2011 12:57:08 GMT -5
"Um, yeah- I have. And I have been disgusted by the far left's strategy of dividing us so we will, in fact, fall."
At least it wasn't you that accused others of projecting...but I see that to be true here.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 1, 2011 13:05:50 GMT -5
page 2, reply 52. Were you too lazy to go back a few pages or are you just saying anything and throwing false accusations around to pick a fight? notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=politics&action=display&thread=10321&page=5Here you accuse magichat of commenting on your service (without proving it of course). Ho-hum, more of the same, eh? Maybe you should try something new (the truth would be a good start, IMHO); nobody seems to be buying whatever it is you're selling. And doing both is even worse than that, eh? If you disagree with the Harvard Study, the 4th of July is only for Republicans ...then pls let us know why you agree or disgree...don't you think we can disagree without being disagreeable...?? I think if kids become involved in patriotic events it might turn them into Republicans based on a Harvard Study.. Don't you think there is the case of Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, honoring our war dead and etc could result in kids becoming Republicans or maybe at the worse Conservative Democrats instead of Liberals which is NOT a bad thing... Enjoy the 4th of July, P.I.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 1, 2011 13:17:29 GMT -5
Thanx Krickitt that video is one of my favorites
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Post by steff on Jul 1, 2011 13:28:30 GMT -5
Why don't you that think it's ONLY for the good little Republicans, go thru the crowd at the celebrations this weekend, asking everyone if they are a Liberal or not. If you find one, you go right ahead and tell them how un-American they are.
The rest of us will celebrate the holiday by coming together with other Americans. without the need to find out if they believe the same or not.
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Post by Shirina on Jul 1, 2011 13:34:55 GMT -5
It's strange to think that the more rabid conservatives believe that the simple act of feeling patriotic is what constitutes a love of one's country. Yet if we pull back the camera for a wide-angle shot, I find it increasingly difficult to see where this love of country is actually put into action.
America, to them, is simply a patch of dirt where they can amass a personal fortune and hoard material possessions. That which seems to make America great directly correlates to that which puts money in their pocket - and keeps it there. And while I harbor no ill will for the desire to make a living and live comfortably, it has been taken to extremes.
Yet the radical conservative will talk a good game about patriotism, the Constitution, and the Founding Fathers yet will complain about natural disaster victims needing help. They are horrifically prejudiced against the poor and, in some cases, the disabled. Children are only precious when used in conjunction with abortion but somehow lose their exalted status when used in conjunction with welfare. They are quick to champion freedom, but only for themselves; they have no qualms about devising ways to strip certain Americans of their right to vote, seem to relish in a class-based society, and seem to think that their religion should be the law of the land. They don't want to pay taxes, they wish to privatize everything, and worship the wealthy even as they are being screwed by them. They refuse to pay to help their neighbor receive chemotherapy but would gladly pay to drop bombs on a foreign country.
I see no love of country here in these actions and beliefs. In fact, I see no country at all but rather 300 million individual nations set against each other in a dog-eat-dog environment where only those with money are entitled to even the basics of life - such as health care. Where is this patriotism I hear so much about?
It would be impossible to isolate 4th of July celebrations as the cause of these small percentages in favor of Republicans. There are too many other factors, other variables at work on a person's set of values and beliefs to point to something as rare as a 4th of July picnic and claim it is the cause.
I think the key to understanding this lies in the fact that the study says the Republican leaning does not diminish over time. This, to me, heavily suggests other factors which sustain this Republican "bias" throughout the rest of the year - factors such as the overall political leanings of the community and parents.
I simply fail to see how Zem-Zem cars, firetrucks, and marching bands exhibit traits that are somehow uniquely Republican.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 1, 2011 13:45:44 GMT -5
Maybe Liberals will celebrate the 4th of July differently than Republicans.. Since I am neither a Liberal or a Republican I can only assume some differences...The Liberal Elites our here in the South Bay will be out in the bay on their boats, drinking Napa wine, eating baked salmon with rice, smoking some weed, and shooting off fireworks .....While the Republicans will be marching in the 4th of July Parades or watching them with their families , then head to McD's or Domino's Pizza for take out dinner and later watch the fireworks on TV or by the bay...
And on Tuesday both the Liberals and Republicans will be back to work but the Liberal Elites will be hung over and in a bad frame of mind again..Hope full none of them will be posting here because I hate to argue with hung over liberals..
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Post by swamp on Jul 1, 2011 13:46:45 GMT -5
I thought Harvard was a bastion of liberal thought and you couldn't believe any of the studies coming out of such a liberal institution?
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 1, 2011 13:51:11 GMT -5
I thought Harvard was a bastion of liberal thought and you couldn't believe any of the studies coming out of such a liberal institution? Harvard Law School is very Liberal but Harvard Business School is very Neo Conservative and preach ad infinitum small government, lower taxes and less government spending...
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Post by Shirina on Jul 1, 2011 13:53:51 GMT -5
What will the Republican elites be doing?
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 1, 2011 13:57:19 GMT -5
What will the Republican elites be doing? Some are working this weekend in Washingto DC trying to finish the debt reduction proposal...but I don't know many Republican Elites except for a few here in the Intelligent, White Conservative Male Club but we don't all hang out together and some of them are snobs IMHO
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Post by shelby on Jul 1, 2011 14:08:15 GMT -5
What about the republicans shooting off their guns drinking Pabst blue ribbon and BBQ-ing hot dogs they bought with food stamps at walmart because "yes I do have a job I get SSI" while complaining about liberal socialism? Do they get to go to the parade?
Think this is not accurate portrayal do my job for a day and you would be surprised. I talk to people from nebraska, arkansas and florida mainly and the nature of my work I ask very personal questions many do not have a high school education and barely made it 10th grade.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2011 14:31:14 GMT -5
Yeah.. we are a bunch of ignorant, racist, rednecks. Fer shur........
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Post by swamp on Jul 1, 2011 14:33:48 GMT -5
Maybe Liberals will celebrate the 4th of July differently than Republicans.. Since I am neither a Liberal or a Republican I can only assume some differences...The Liberal Elites our here in the South Bay will be out in the bay on their boats, drinking Napa wine, eating baked salmon with rice, smoking some weed, and shooting off fireworks .....While the Republicans will be marching in the 4th of July Parades or watching them with their families , then head to McD's or Domino's Pizza for take out dinner and later watch the fireworks on TV or by the bay... And on Tuesday both the Liberals and Republicans will be back to work but the Liberal Elites will be hung over and in a bad frame of mind again..Hope full none of them will be posting here because I hate to argue with hung over liberals.. The menu at the liberal elite's sounds much better than McDonalds.
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 1, 2011 14:35:54 GMT -5
... This OP is a study by Harvard that has some validity and so if you disagree with this study why not discredit the study instead of those who just posted it and think it is right on... ... I took the time to find the actual study and posted the first link to it in reply #8. In that reply I questioned, jokingly, the concept of using rainfall as a proxy for actual attendance at Fourth of July activities. I referenced again the actual study in reply #40 and posted part of it with the idea that people needed to read what was actually claim. In reply #105, I questioned the decision of the researchers to exlude all people who had moved from their region of birth. I missed it if anyone else has addressed the issue of rain as proxy for attendance, who was included in the study, or any other substantive look at the study itself.
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Post by shelby on Jul 1, 2011 14:36:19 GMT -5
Krickitt while I will not say they do not exist in the republican party, I do not think it is a good representation of all republicans that would be rediculous like palms comments are. I was just showing how dumb it is to stereotype in that way as if I know what all republicans or liberals think. But palm does
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Post by steff on Jul 1, 2011 14:37:02 GMT -5
Let's not forget that Saturday night, 100,000+ mostly Republicans will be drinking beer and watching cars go round and round at Daytona. Interestingly enough, yesterday I watched a show that was all about Ronald Regan attending a Daytona race.
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