AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jun 22, 2011 13:13:22 GMT -5
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Post by ed1066 on Jun 22, 2011 13:14:56 GMT -5
Reality bites...
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Jun 22, 2011 13:20:51 GMT -5
I think the prez is doing a great job. I plan to vote for him in 2012.
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Jun 22, 2011 13:22:15 GMT -5
I think the prez is doing a great job. I plan to vote for him in 2012. ...not me...  |
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Post by privateinvestor on Jun 22, 2011 13:22:15 GMT -5
I think the prez is doing a great job. I plan to vote for him in 2012. Surely you CANNOT be serious?? |
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 22, 2011 13:25:18 GMT -5
Some advice for Barack Obama from Madame Medusa.
Madame Medusa: Snoops, you don't have a way with children. You must gain their confidence... make them like you.
Snoops: Yeah? How do you do that?
Madame Medusa: You FORCE them to like you, idiot! [/b][/color] He has no problem forcing his agenda, why not himself?
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Post by privateinvestor on Jun 22, 2011 13:25:22 GMT -5
Who the Heck are the 3 in 10 who would re elect Obama??? Illegall Immigrants, Welfare Queens, and Liberals who believe in hope and promise???
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Jun 22, 2011 13:29:29 GMT -5
Surely you CANNOT be serious??
Well he is doing everything he said he would do when he was campaigning. Thus he is successful. Makes sense...no?
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 22, 2011 13:33:40 GMT -5
Who the Heck are the 3 in 10 who would re elect Obama??? Illegall Immigrants, Welfare Queens, and Liberals who believe in hope and promise??? I don't think the Welfare Queens are on board anymore. What's he done for them?   I'd be ticked if I had bought what he was selling last time. That hope and change just isn't working out the way he promised. But he's having lots of fun while life gets harder for most other people in the USA. |
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Post by privateinvestor on Jun 22, 2011 13:34:11 GMT -5
Not to me.....SF.......but must admit I will be glued to my TV tonight to learn about Afghanistan...But I have questions about Obama's speeches about the Afghan because I really don't think he has been that close to what is going on there on the ground.... The Taliban is still in control in the Afghan and is the Afghan Army ready and willing to defend against them??
What is the clear mission ahead??
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Post by cme1201 on Jun 22, 2011 13:34:36 GMT -5
hope and promise
It was hope and change, not hope and promise
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Post by privateinvestor on Jun 22, 2011 13:35:41 GMT -5
It was hope and change, not hope and promise
Obama dropped "change" and went with "promise" based on the advice he got from Nancy Pelosi after he got shellacked in the mid term elections..
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Post by floridayankee on Jun 22, 2011 13:41:35 GMT -5
Obama has experienced a shocking overnight plunge in virtually every poll..... mmmmm, shocking, eh? To whom, might I ask? The same people that find it shocking that jobs are still not being added? The same people that find it shocking that consumer confidence is still low? The same people that find it shocking that housing is still not recovering? The same people that find it shocking that stimulus has not stimulated anything? |
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Post by bubblyandblue on Jun 22, 2011 13:45:22 GMT -5
I hope Obama does what is rite and, not some goofy compromise - Bush started it without a plan and FAILED. I would actually like to see a strategy - for the FIRST TIME - our previous administration failed on STRATEGY despite years of prior strategy developed and IGNORED by the administration. BUSH FAILED ... I hope to hell that someone...anyone can succeed before we spill more blood and treasure. Especialy no more blood from the few who are brave. BUSH WAS A COWARD!!!!!!
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Post by Driftr on Jun 22, 2011 13:50:18 GMT -5
Who the Heck are the 3 in 10 who would re elect Obama??? Illegall Immigrants, Welfare Queens, and Liberals who believe in hope and promise??? Or people so fed up with the whole system, they realize allowing the chosen one to lead another 4 years might just get us over the cliff edge faster by keeping the pedal to the metal rather than just taking the foot off the gas and coasting over the edge (RINOs) thereby allowing the recovery process to begin sooner. |
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Post by SweetVirginia on Jun 22, 2011 13:57:17 GMT -5
Many of us who voted for Obama are not happy with him because he went too far to the center and even the right on some issues. He went off the progressive track and that is why I will not vote for him again. I most certainly will not be voting for whichever of the clowns and freaks ends up winning the republican nomination either (unless it is Ron Paul)
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Post by cme1201 on Jun 22, 2011 14:00:19 GMT -5
Many of us who voted for Obama are not happy with him because he went too far to the center and even the right on some issues. He went off the progressive track and that is why I will not vote for him again. I most certainly will not be voting for whichever of the clowns and freaks ends up winning the republican nomination either (unless it is Ron Paul) Before you call them all clowns and freaks Sweet shouldn't you at least wait to see who are the top three front runners, and I don't mean at this extremely early point in the race, right now all you are seeing/hearing from are the ones with the largest pockets, the ones who can buy a lot of early media time. Look at Gary Johnson, he might not have clown shoes or a big red nose. |
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Post by SweetVirginia on Jun 22, 2011 14:19:35 GMT -5
Many of us who voted for Obama are not happy with him because he went too far to the center and even the right on some issues. He went off the progressive track and that is why I will not vote for him again. I most certainly will not be voting for whichever of the clowns and freaks ends up winning the republican nomination either (unless it is Ron Paul) Before you call them all clowns and freaks Sweet shouldn't you at least wait to see who are the top three front runners, and I don't mean at this extremely early point in the race, right now all you are seeing/hearing from are the ones with the largest pockets, the ones who can buy a lot of early media time. Look at Gary Johnson, he might not have clown shoes or a big red nose. The ones who are being "displayed" as candidates right now as we speak, are clowns and freaks. Johnson seems ok but he, like Ron Paul, will never be the nominee because he will not get support of the Christian fanatic right or the military industrial complex right. So as it is, I would never vote for the likes of Bachman, Romney, Cain, Huntsman, Santorum or Newt. They are all jokes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2011 14:25:52 GMT -5
I just read somewhere that Gary Johnson has the largest job growth history of them all, with Huntsman coming in second. Can't remember where I saw that.. I'm not sure about him on illegal immigration issues, though..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2011 14:27:08 GMT -5
Wow, Sweet, I'm not used to seeing you so mean..  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2011 14:29:46 GMT -5
SHOCK POLL: Only 3 in 10 Would Re-elect Obama
I am shocked.....Only 3 people out of 10 (that's 30%) are clueless? I figured that the percent of clueless people was higher than that.
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Post by floridayankee on Jun 22, 2011 14:50:53 GMT -5
I just read somewhere that Gary Johnson has the largest job growth history of them all, with Huntsman coming in second. Can't remember where I saw that.. While all the GOP contenders are quick to hit the “jobs, jobs, jobs” mantra, the former governors running for president have very different records on job creation. According to a National Review Online analysis of seasonally adjusted employment data (looking at the total number of those employed) from the Bureau of Labor website, Gary Johnson has the best record of the official candidates, with a job-growth rate of 11.6 percent during his tenure.
But Johnson, who governed from 1995 to 2003, doesn’t overlap much with the other governors — Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty, and Jon Huntsman — who are running. Among the crowd who governed primarily during the 2000s, Huntsman has the best record. During his 2005 to 2009 tenure as governor of Utah, the number of jobs grew by 5.9 percent. www.nationalreview.com/corner/270098/which-gop-candidate-has-best-job-growth-record-katrina-trinkoLEGAL IMMIGRATION STRENGTHENS AMERICA'S ECONOMY AND THE social fabric. It will also strengthen our relationship with our southern neighbor Mexico.
* It should be easier for a potential immigrant to get a work visa. Potential immigrants should pass a background check, and then be issued a Social Security card, which would allow them to pay income, payroll, and all other taxes workers pay.
* There should be a two-year grace period for illegal immigrants to attain work visas so they can continue contributing to America and begin taking part in American society openly.
* Immigrants with temporary work visas should have access to the normal procedures for gaining permanent status and citizenship, and should be able to bring their families to the U.S. after demonstrating ability to support them financially.
REAL BORDER SECURITY MEANS KNOWING WHO IS coming here and why.
* Legalizing marijuana will reduce border violence and illegal immigration significantly, decreasing the U.S.-Mexican drug trade by 70 percent. Without a monopoly on the marijuana trade, Mexican drug cartels will have vastly diminished incentives to violate U.S. law and risk capture.
* Streamline the legal immigration process to reduce illegal immigration and allow the U.S. to know who enters the country and for what reasons.
* Enforce a 'one strike, you're out' rule for immigrants who circumvent the streamlined work visa process.
* Impose and enforce sanctions on employers for noncompliance with immigration laws.
www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues/immigration |
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Post by SweetVirginia on Jun 22, 2011 15:01:30 GMT -5
Wow, Sweet, I'm not used to seeing you so mean.. Im not trying to be mean krickitt, Im being truthful as to my opinion of the current republican candidates that are out there and that stand a chance. Not one of them is worth considering. They are a sorry bunch. That is how I truly feel about them. Sorry if that seems mean to you. |
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Post by SweetVirginia on Jun 22, 2011 15:11:28 GMT -5
America has been spiraling downward for years. Obama didn't create massive entitlement programs and on and on. I view him as just part of the crumbling institution of yesterday. People may keep him out of security. Sometimes the known is preferable even if you aren' crazy about him. And, i think people are getting tired of promises full of nothing. Unless there is a serious Repo leader who is truly going to lead and not just give us more of the same ala rhinoland, then i don't think the Repo will win. I will no longer vote for a Repo to Nowhere. I am not voting the lesser of 2 evils. I am not voting party lines because of party. He/she must convince me to vote for him/her because i want to vote for them not as point of "not throwing my vote " away or whatever. I WILL throw my vote away in protest. I will only vote for someone i believe in. I would rather go down in flames voting for whom i believe rather than holding my nose and voting for a "not them".  Same here. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2011 15:13:46 GMT -5
**** There should be a two-year grace period for illegal immigrants to attain work visas so they can continue contributing to America and begin taking part in American society openly.****
Yank, this is the one that concerns me. I don't want illegals to be able in any way to step above ones that have been waiting for years to come in legally. I don't know. Hopefully Johnson won't get shoved out, because I would like to hear more from him. They give DLs to illegals in NM.. I have mixed feelings about that, too. On the one hand I am glad they are being identified, think it is great that-- I assume-- they have to insure their cars if they have a DL, but on the other hand-- how do you identify illegals if they have legit state issued DLs? I need to look further in to all of that. I'm okay with legalizing drugs, though. Just like having Obama as POTUS-- could be better, can't be worse.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2011 15:15:16 GMT -5
Not me, snerd. I understand, but I will vote against Obama. Hope I do not have to hold my nose to do it.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jun 22, 2011 15:20:23 GMT -5
Im not trying to be mean krickitt, Im being truthful as to my opinion of the current republican candidates that are out there and that stand a chance. Not one of them is worth considering. They are a sorry bunch. That is how I truly feel about them. Sorry if that seems mean to you.
I agree with your comments about the Republican candidates for president...and I would not support any of them or Obama...and I think many are in that category of undecided, or disillusioned??
My candidates for President would be Hillary Clinton or General Patreaus but every time I mention these two names I am asked, "what are you smoking Dude?? Get real!!.."....
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Post by floridayankee on Jun 22, 2011 15:23:16 GMT -5
America has been spiraling downward for years. Obama didn't create massive entitlement programs and on and on. You wouldn't consider Obamacare a massive entitlement program? |
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Post by SweetVirginia on Jun 22, 2011 15:25:32 GMT -5
Im not trying to be mean krickitt, Im being truthful as to my opinion of the current republican candidates that are out there and that stand a chance. Not one of them is worth considering. They are a sorry bunch. That is how I truly feel about them. Sorry if that seems mean to you. I agree with your comments about the Republican candidates for president...and I would not support any of them or Obama...and I think many are in that category of undecided, or disillusioned?? My candidates for President would be Hillary Clinton or General Patreaus but every time I mention these two names I am asked, "what are you smoking Dude?? Get real!!..".... I would not vote for Obama either. I will, for the first time, "throw my vote away" because I cannot in good conscience vote for Obama a second time, or for any one of the repubs who will end up as the nominee. Neither Paul nor Johnson have a chance. They are too "real." |
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 22, 2011 16:10:00 GMT -5
Who the Heck are the 3 in 10 who would re elect Obama??? Illegall Immigrants, Welfare Queens, and Liberals who believe in hope and promise??? how about stock market investors. i have made tons of money off this guy. Bush was a disaster. |
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