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Post by moon/Laura on Aug 9, 2023 12:58:01 GMT -5
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Post by moon/Laura on Aug 6, 2023 11:41:57 GMT -5
Ok, so I'm coming from several pages behind, but the whole "President vs Mr" trump thing baffles me. To ME, the use of the word President should only be for the *current* president. All others are Former President. Therefore he should be addressed as Mr in the court proceedings, in my opinion. I'm aware that continuing to call former presidents President even after they are out of office is fairly common (respect?), but I disagree with doing so (unless it's discussing something that occurred when they *were* President). Also aware that many calling trump by the President title do so because they believe he still IS president. Fucking bonkers, they are.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jul 28, 2023 15:40:26 GMT -5
Tenn, we still cannot post a full article, even in a spoiler, even with a source link.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jul 26, 2023 8:52:13 GMT -5
I WFH full time. I get up at 5 and shower, then dress in my pajamas of the day. I don't have video calls, thank goodness, because my hair gets shampooed once a week generally. Maybe twice during the summer. And no makeup on work days, either. Why, when no one sees me?
My days off, I'm usually out with my camera at the ass-crack of dawn, so I do wear 'real clothes' and put on a face for that. Face not required of course, but without at least mascara, I look half dead..
Any other time around the house is also PJs. I'm all about the comfort.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jul 7, 2023 8:53:53 GMT -5
doing a little bit of cleanup in this thread, apologies if you're looking for something that isn't here anymore. scgal - the last time a post of yours was reported, I suggested you reacquaint yourself with the CoC you agreed to follow when you joined this board. I'll suggest again that you do that, while you're on a day's vacation. the general board is visible while you're locked out. here's a link for you link-chiver mod can you message me and let me know what it was that was out of coc It was the political name calling - your alternate name for Hillary.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jul 3, 2023 21:36:46 GMT -5
Have you been living under a rock, or are you really that ignorant? 1. Don't say gay. This will lead to a certain uptick in LGBTQ people unaliving themselves. They are already hated. Why can't they just be allowed to exist? 2. He has banned all gender affirming care for trans people. This will most definitely lead to death for them either at their own hands or those of others. He's basically put a target on their backs and those of the people who love them. 3. He outlawed undocumented immigrants. As a result jobsites are a ghost town and crops are rotting. Florida has become a ghost town. Note that none of the "they're taking our jobs" crowd has stepped up to pick up the slack. 4. His war on Disney has crippled the tourism industry as nobody wants anything to do with FL now. Tourism is 80% of FL economy and he doesn’t seem to care. 5. FL has the highest foreclosure rate of all 50 states. That happened on Ronnie's watch. 6. Abortion bans are going to kill women and red states already had higher rates of maternal mortality before any bans were introduced. This is just what I came up with off the top of my head. I'm sure I'll have more later. Why on earth should this joke of a leader be allowed to run a whole country?! If you agree with and support that man, that makes you a disgusting bigot. I speak in terms of the general you, as in all people supporting him, not just you as an individual. OK so this is really just a difference of opinion. I'll make it short. I agree with 1-2-3-6. 4+5 I don't know much about didn't really care to read anything about the disney shit. So for me that would make it a reason to go to live in Florida. It's just a difference of opinion you want to see it one way others see it differently. The ones who don't like it leave the ones who do stay. Pretty simple. Admitting to being a racist and a homophobic bigot, what a shock. NOT.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 30, 2023 11:46:37 GMT -5
Thanks, Ken, for starting this thread. TheOtherMe, I saw some activity on Facebook yesterday indicating that she has indeed passed, but I have no further information about it, unfortunately.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 29, 2023 7:20:21 GMT -5
Opti, please remove the name calling bit from your previous post.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 26, 2023 22:46:04 GMT -5
What *should* happen and what will happen are likely to be totally different things, unfortunately. I hope I'm wrong, though.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 26, 2023 20:32:58 GMT -5
I didn't know it was trademarked either. I think Fuzzy's Tacos uses it, too. Oddly enough, I'm actually eating "the Bell" right now.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 23, 2023 9:39:43 GMT -5
I'll just lock it, so people can easily access the other thread if they want it.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 23, 2023 7:38:38 GMT -5
There's been a thread on this already, though the title doesn't really indicate that's what it's about.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 22, 2023 15:21:07 GMT -5
Throwing a tantrum? I might agree if the circumstances were different. But when little bro throws it back I can understand the kid being upset and crying out of disappointment and maybe anger. Little sibs ruin everything, yanno? But I definitely don't consider it to be a tantrum in any traditional sense of the word.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 16, 2023 13:36:43 GMT -5
Or maybe you should strongly consider finding a board that aligns more closely with your opinions.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 16, 2023 12:59:44 GMT -5
All good questions 1 agree it does take alot of time for technology. We don't live today for what maybe tomorrow innovations. We live with what we have and inspire for more. 2 Yes it is ok to do that. You don't get 20 yrs to prove your innocence. You are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. If that has been done that was your time. There is an appeal process that should be no more than 3 years to use it up. To think you should pay for someone to live for 20 years when they were already proven guilty and sentenced to death is stupid. 3. Like another poster said not pro-life just anti-abortion there is a big difference Wow. And that is all I am going to say because otherwise I am going to get banned. What a stupid (and borderline elitist) thing to say. Because I can pretty well guarantee that if it were YOU on death row wrongly, you would do whatever you could for as long as you could to prove your innocence and clear your name. And if you wouldn't, you have even less regard for your own life than you do for everyone else's. Of course, not everyone can afford to do that, hence the elitist comment.
I mean, how many cases have we seen where Black men especially get absolutely *railroaded* despite the lack of true evidence and sentenced to prison or death. Central Park 5 comes to mind.
Ledell Lee was executed while proclaiming his innocence for over 20 yrs. 4 years after his execution, DNA evidence proved him innocent. Ledell Lee DNA evidence
Here's another who would have received the death penalty but for a hung jury. He spent 38 yrs in prison before being found innocent due to new DNA evidence. Maurice Hastings found innocent after 38 yrs
Anyone who thinks this is ok simply because 'a jury found them guilty' is a shit human being.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 14, 2023 13:26:33 GMT -5
So I was just watching an interview with one of Trumps previous attorneys on CNN. He's saying that Trump was negotiating with the Archives folks very nicely and the problem is the AG came at Trump too aggressively in it's first communication. If they had been nicer Trump would have cooperated. He's also saying that Trump had the right to keep "personal" documents and he hadn't gone through the boxes yet to determine what was personal and what wasn't.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 13, 2023 16:29:26 GMT -5
But, there should still be SOME requirements along the lines of 'you can't have been indicted of crimes related to national security'! Because if you're depending on the voters to make sure he doesn't get back in, I'm not at ALL convinced they'll come through for us. History is full of people not being convinced that "they" would come through for "us" and therefore deciding to preemptively take options away from "them". While in the case of Trump I am one of "us", I am aware that next time I could be one of "them". I understand your point. But this is a very unique scenario that would almost certainly affect our national security. It already *has*. That should be a hard nope to running again. Why take that chance? My opinion, worth exactly what you paid for it. lol
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 13, 2023 8:58:24 GMT -5
You know, I could maybe see this for lesser crimes. But how can they allow someone who is charged with the crimes Trump is to potentially do it AGAIN?! That's just insane to me. I like that there are very minimal requirements for someone to run for President. I don't think that "they" should exclude people. YMMV. Now what would be insane to me would be American voters giving Trump the opportunity to do it again. But, there should still be SOME requirements along the lines of 'you can't have been indicted of crimes related to national security'! Because if you're depending on the voters to make sure he doesn't get back in, I'm not at ALL convinced they'll come through for us.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 12, 2023 16:37:23 GMT -5
any plea deal that does NOT bar him from office is a non-starter. he will win on the tidal wave of victim-hood which he knows precisely how to surf. the ONLY alternative is to sentence him to prison (if they can prove guilt, of course) for the remainder of his mortal life. he is in such amazing health that he should be show no leniency for age. As I am sure you know but posting this just in case anyone else isn't positive: Can Trump run for president from prison? Yes, and it’s been done before. There are no legal obstacles to running for president as a convicted felon or even from behind bars. And if Trump finds himself in that predicament, he’ll be following in the footsteps of another rabble-rousing populist and frequent presidential candidate: the avowed socialist Eugene V. Debs, who received nearly a million votes while in prison a century ago. You know, I could maybe see this for lesser crimes. But how can they allow someone who is charged with the crimes Trump is to potentially do it AGAIN?! That's just insane to me.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 10, 2023 20:00:11 GMT -5
I just saw this reel and it's so ludicrous (that anyone would think this is a thing), it's pathetic. And also, one of the comments was spot on - "only the NRA believes in post-birth abortion". https://www.instagram.com/reel/CtCv4PDPeTn
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 10, 2023 10:39:36 GMT -5
I think there's not going to be enough popcorn in all the world to go with the shitshow trump is part of, lol. I was stalking a former FB friend's page (no one from here and a definite trumpy). The person *still* supports trump and feels that the indictments are bs, that the country is doomed, and that everything the dems believe are against the morals and beliefs the country was built on. You know, I would LOVE to hear Paul's comments on this right now. Wonder if he's still a trumpy, too.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 9, 2023 13:13:51 GMT -5
And I think your stance on guns is immoral. Guns kill more innocent and *actually* living, breathing children than abortions kill embryos that are NOT YET living or breathing. This is where your outrage over abortion is just nuts. You want a clump of cells to be forced into becoming a born child but once they're born you don't give a fuck about all the mass shootings and shit that will potentially kill them. My outrage over abortion are you freaking kidding me! An abortion over (clump of cells) that will potentially become a baby will 100% kill that baby period. Guns will 100% not kill a single person. I'm not going after the tools used for an abortion just the damn people responsible. Just like firearm deaths people are responsible. Hell the more I think about it an elected non medical abortion should carry the death penalty hows that and again, what happens to the UNWANTED "potential baby" that you want to force some woman into having? JFC get off that morally superior high horse and let people decide their own lives! Whether someone has an abortion or not is none of your damn business, unless you're waiting with bated breath to adopt that child and give it the good life you obviously expect all these forced "potential babies" to have.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 7, 2023 10:12:24 GMT -5
It's not stupid. It's reality, all too often. And you still can't get it through your head that YOUR definition of "life" should have *no* bearing on what other women do with their bodies! Unless YOU are willing to take over the parenting of that child if: 1. it was unwanted and steps were taken to prevent pregnancy (which failed for whatever reason) 2. the mother was raped 3. the mother is mentally ill/ otherwise unfit
We have way too many unwanted children already,but you think we should just keep pushing them out because YOU'RE offended at the idea of ending a "life" that's not even able to sustain itself. THAT'S what's stupid. My opinion vs your opinion. You think mine is stupid I think yours is immoral. You can write down a million what if this what if that the bottom line is answer nothing is perfect. You act like I am the only one that sees the topic this way there is millions of us that sees it this way. The laws are changing And I think your stance on guns is immoral. Guns kill more innocent and *actually* living, breathing children than abortions kill embryos that are NOT YET living or breathing. This is where your outrage over abortion is just nuts. You want a clump of cells to be forced into becoming a born child but once they're born you don't give a fuck about all the mass shootings and shit that will potentially kill them.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 6, 2023 14:31:18 GMT -5
But, here's the thing. When it becomes "life" is subjective, up to a point. You call it a life beginning at conception. Others might call it that once it has a heartbeat, and still others may have some other thought. To base laws on something not clearly defined by SCIENCE (if that's even possible) is ridiculous.
And all these "lives" that are supposedly being saved? What about the ones born into abusive households? Or maybe the mother is mentally ill, or any one of the other myriad reasons why it's a less than good situation? Either they stay in that abusive and dysfunctional house or they get dumped into an already overcrowded foster system, where they're (maybe) also abused. Lots of foster families do it for the money and don't give a shit about the child. Why would you deliberately subject this "life" that you want to force into existence to that? Yeah, some might be adopted, but it's expensive to adopt.
I'll repeat that many women who get pregnant are on BC. My niece is because she knows she doesn't want kids. Others are because they were told it would be dangerous for them to get pregnant. But BC does fail! And you want to force those women to carry that child because YOU have a moral opposition to it. Those "lives" may or may not be saved, but many won't have a life worth living. That is irrelevent to end a life because of what if's is stupid. I might get into a car accident and get killed so I guess i'll stay home. Doesn't make any sense It's not stupid. It's reality, all too often. And you still can't get it through your head that YOUR definition of "life" should have *no* bearing on what other women do with their bodies! Unless YOU are willing to take over the parenting of that child if: 1. it was unwanted and steps were taken to prevent pregnancy (which failed for whatever reason) 2. the mother was raped 3. the mother is mentally ill/ otherwise unfit
We have way too many unwanted children already,but you think we should just keep pushing them out because YOU'RE offended at the idea of ending a "life" that's not even able to sustain itself. THAT'S what's stupid.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 6, 2023 11:11:48 GMT -5
Reread the part I bolded above. Pro-choice proponents are NOT trying to pass laws FORCING you or anyone to have an abortion, they just want abortion to be an option (that everyone can decide for themselves to opt for, or avoid). But these restrictive anti-abortion laws remove everyone's choice, forcing people to carry pregnancies even if the pregnancy threatens the mother's health or life, even if the fetus is dead or can't survive due to abnormalities, even if the pregnancy is not viable. The difference here is choice vs no choice. You understand this for guns - you want the OPTION to buy guns. I don't like guns, but no one is making me buy guns, I am free to have zero guns. You don't like the idea you might be told you CAN'T buy guns (everybody gets zero guns). Replace "guns" with "abortion": I want the OPTION to have an abortion if I need one. You don't like abortions? Ok, you are free to have zero abortions! But I really don't like the idea that I CAN'T have an abortion if I happen to have an ectopic pregnancy that will NEVER lead to a live baby, but could certainly kill me by hemorrhage. Banning abortion here doesn't save any unborn lives, but threatens my life by withholding timely medical care. Do you see the parallel? Freedom to choose, vs no choice? I understand everything you said. I agree with you on most of it except I think abortions should only be for life saving events for the mother. The situations where DR and hospitals are afraid of prosecution those laws need to be rewritten, I will stand with anyone on that sign petitions etc. I just don't see a need for abortion clinics. Banning elected abortions does save lives. Each one not performed can result in the birth of a child. I am not speaking for myself rather than the child who doesn't have a say in this but should have the protection. Once pregnant a woman is not just her there is a living human being inside of her, she should be obligated for its safety just like any other child. Lets talk about guns. I am all for background checks. I am all for needing a sellers permit to sell one. What I am against is someone telling me which gun I can or cannot buy. Each gun sold has the potential to end a life. Every non medical abortions performed does end a life. I have dozens of guns and over 100k rounds of ammo unless a life is threatened not one life will end because of them. But, here's the thing. When it becomes "life" is subjective, up to a point. You call it a life beginning at conception. Others might call it that once it has a heartbeat, and still others may have some other thought. To base laws on something not clearly defined by SCIENCE (if that's even possible) is ridiculous.
And all these "lives" that are supposedly being saved? What about the ones born into abusive households? Or maybe the mother is mentally ill, or any one of the other myriad reasons why it's a less than good situation? Either they stay in that abusive and dysfunctional house or they get dumped into an already overcrowded foster system, where they're (maybe) also abused. Lots of foster families do it for the money and don't give a shit about the child. Why would you deliberately subject this "life" that you want to force into existence to that? Yeah, some might be adopted, but it's expensive to adopt.
I'll repeat that many women who get pregnant are on BC. My niece is because she knows she doesn't want kids. Others are because they were told it would be dangerous for them to get pregnant. But BC does fail! And you want to force those women to carry that child because YOU have a moral opposition to it. Those "lives" may or may not be saved, but many won't have a life worth living.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 5, 2023 13:05:42 GMT -5
Not religious just personal. Not egotistical either. I have an opinion just like you and others have the opposite. Why is mine egotistical? Why is it ok for you to believe what you do and not me? I think it comes down to now that the law is leaning on my side by reversing Row. The same with guns the 2a stands strong and because there is gun violence left leaning people can only scream guns because the they know they don't know how to fix the people problem. Actually, it may be the quintessential example of being egotistical: Thinking that your own PERSONAL belief should trump everybody else's. And worse, that your PERSONAL belief should be made law for everybody else. The biggest reason why your belief IS egotistical and an opposing view is NOT, is that the opposing view is not attempting to control or mandate yours. You ARE trying to control or mandate theirs. All the opponents want is the same freedom to choose that you have. The ability to choose differently. Nothing more. I would also not get too excited about the current Supreme Court rulings. Public respect for the Court is at a low that we have not seen in a very long time, if ever. The reason is that the court is very much out-of-step with the public, and has essentially abandoned its mission to interpret the Constitution properly and logically in favor of attempting to alter it ideologically. That is not good for the people and it is not good for the country. Social conservatives are on the wrong side of virtually every issue, and we will eventually be due a reckoning. I doubt it'll be pretty. Thank you. This what I had in my head when I made the statement, but I couldn't think how to explain it when she asked *why* I'd said it was egotistical.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 5, 2023 10:02:37 GMT -5
That is YOUR personal/religious belief. Why does YOUR belief get to have say over mine? Who made YOU the one who decides that? I mean, how egotistical can you get? Editing to add that the snippet that TG quoted is *exactly* right. Not religious just personal. Not egotistical either. I have an opinion just like you and others have the opposite. Why is mine egotistical? Why is it ok for you to believe what you do and not me? I think it comes down to now that the law is leaning on my side by reversing Row. The same with guns the 2a stands strong and because there is gun violence left leaning people can only scream guns because the they know they don't know how to fix the people problem. Ok, but even if just personal, that only gives you the right to decide for YOU. Not for me, not for anyone else.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 2, 2023 13:55:06 GMT -5
She has EVERY right. You don't walk in her shoes. She may have trouble providing for the kids she has, and can't afford another mouth to feed. She may have an abusive spouse who warned her not to get pregnant again. No she don't there are 2 lives there. If her life is not in danger then no abortion That is YOUR personal/religious belief. Why does YOUR belief get to have say over mine? Who made YOU the one who decides that? I mean, how egotistical can you get? Editing to add that the snippet that TG quoted is *exactly* right.
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Post by moon/Laura on May 26, 2023 12:19:13 GMT -5
no. a ballistic cannon is not just "another gun", and CV19 is not "just another strain". a ballistic cannon is a massively destructive weapon of war. CV19 was the most destructive strain of flu since the Spanish Flu. we should not trivialize important differences. CV19 killed over 1M people that would still be alive today had we taken it more seriously. no, i am not exaggerating. a significant portion of those people had contributions to make to society that can no longer be made. they have left children that they could have raised. they could have been taxpayers, firefighters, accountants, doctors. now, they are gone. for what? FREEDOM? i am really growing weary of accounting for freedom with the price of human lives. in the developed world, it is absolutely unnecessary. we can use our minds and science to avoid dying for our freedoms. or we can slowly convert this once aspiring nation into a shithole of regrets and prejudices. Alot of people must on this board must agree with you. Millions of babies dying for the sake of choice. How revolting And it still *DOES NOT AFFECT YOU PERSONALLY* so therefore you should get no say. It's MY body. My decision. I mean, seriously. What are you doing - personally - to support these unwanted babies after they're born? Are you helping to feed and clothe them? Adopting or fostering them? No? I thought not.
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