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Post by Clever Username on May 17, 2011 12:05:41 GMT -5
Pfft - my 5YO quotes Star Wars. Pshaw. My kids sing Snoop Dogg! I'm still not sure what it means, but they're happy to Drop it like it's HOT!
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May 17, 2011 12:36:29 GMT -5
Post by qofcc on May 17, 2011 12:36:29 GMT -5
Pshaw. My kids sing Snoop Dogg! I'm still not sure what it means, but they're happy to Drop it like it's HOT! LOL... that reminds me of a company picnic where a co-worker's wife who is usually pretty Martha Stewart was singing along to the radio with her 3 young kids to something about "bangin' on the bathroom floor" and the kids already knew the song because they had dance moves banging on the table. I was staring at her with my mouth open and she said "what? THEY don't know what it means". My kids used to get mad when I turned the radio station on them on long car trips, but I told them we weren't going to listen to music that promotes violence and if Mommy has to listen to any more of that music, she's going to have to start screaming and hit something .
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Post by Colleenz on May 17, 2011 13:05:16 GMT -5
We are TERRIBLE with the music we listen to in he car. DS's current sing along fav is Red Neck Woman.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 17, 2011 13:07:22 GMT -5
Having two young kids and another on the way, I am really not trying to be flip about the whole thing. That being said - I just can't keep up anymore. It starts with pregnancy and what you can and can not eat or can and can not do and can and can not be exposed to. Then it's car seats and cribs and bumper pads and certain types of toys and gates for the stairs and all the locks and child-proof equipment and who knows what else. And to all that if you add all the "environmental" dangers and BPA's in plastic bottles and lead poisoning and I don't even know what else.....
The guidelines change more frequently than I change my underwear and it's all just too much!!!!!!!!!
No shit! I can't turn on the TV and avoid hearing yet another "study" that is the complete opposite of what I was just told yesterday.
I told DH I can't win, no matter what I do I am a crappy parent because in 24 hours some new guideline is going to crop up and now I am "bad" because I was following yesterday's!
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2011 14:11:46 GMT -5
The NY Times had a fun article called "Who Really Cares How Yuppies Raise their Children?" It basically said that those who have the time/knowledge to follow parenting debates are the ones who should least worry about it. According to that scale we're all doing great here on YM!
“In one sense you can say parenting doesn’t matter very much if you’re looking at a bunch of upper-middle-class parents who are all basically good parents,” said Janet Currie, an economist at Columbia University. “Then variations don’t matter. But if you’re looking at people who are in difficult situations and aren’t able to be good parents, then improvements in parenting would make a huge difference. That’s part of the problem with the discussion.”
Professor Heckman pointed to research showing that moving children from bad home environments to more loving and stable ones improves their cognitive performance and emotional health. Studies of children adopted from Romanian orphanages, for example, show that the earlier they were adopted, the more likely they were to have normal adulthoods.
In an interview, Professor Caplan said he did not dispute that better parenting could change the lives of children living in abject conditions. But “from the point of view of parents who are interested in a parenting book,” he said, “knowing that you should not send your kid to a horrible orphanage is not very interesting, because you weren’t thinking of doing that.”
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May 17, 2011 14:19:39 GMT -5
Post by zibazinski on May 17, 2011 14:19:39 GMT -5
Thank GOD my kids are grown without the carseat police. No way in hell would I have left them in boosters til they were 8 or some ridiculous number.
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May 17, 2011 16:48:19 GMT -5
Post by The Home 6 on May 17, 2011 16:48:19 GMT -5
Glad my 2 are old enough (though the younger just barely) that I don't have to deal with the rearward facing thing anymore. Traveling across several states with a backward-facing 1 year old is pure hell. I can't imagine doing it with a 2 year old. Yup, I'll just be the worst mother in the world, holding them on my lap while we ride in the pickup truck. Just through the pasture. And only when someone else is driving.
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May 17, 2011 16:53:19 GMT -5
Post by thyme4change on May 17, 2011 16:53:19 GMT -5
Not judging, because I think it is ridiculous how we are dictated by law the simpliest of decisions and everything is a big hairy deal - but may I ask why you would take away the booster? My kids are 6 and 8 - they don't legally need the boosters, but they did previously, so I already own them. They like them because they can see out the window. Once you own them (boosters are cheap - maybe $15?) they really aren't a big deal. If your kids were happy and it wasn't costing you anything - would you take the seats away?
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Post by Angel! on May 17, 2011 17:06:25 GMT -5
Glad my 2 are old enough (though the younger just barely) that I don't have to deal with the rearward facing thing anymore. Traveling across several states with a backward-facing 1 year old is pure hell. I can't imagine doing it with a 2 year old. Yeah, my oldest is almost 3 & I'd never heard the keep them rear-facing until 2. However, my youngest is only 8 months & I might have to turn her when she outgrows the infant carrier. I turned my sons convertible bakcwards, just to see how it fit & it didn't at all. No way would it work rear-facing in my car. So, unless I happen upon a rear-facing that fits in my car, then I'm just going to be a bad mother & sit her forward facing before 2.
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May 17, 2011 19:49:38 GMT -5
Post by DVM gone riding on May 17, 2011 19:49:38 GMT -5
My nephew was 6 years old before he had ever been in a front seat of a vehicle, and then he had to leave the state he was born in for his parents to decide to allow it. And he was a BIG kid, 9lb 10oz at birth. When I was 6 yrs old kids didn't even have to WEAR seatbelts (that was right when they changed) yet some how we all survived!! And I think most of our kids will too. When the risk of breaking your legs from a minor accident is greater then the risk of any neck injury I think common sense should rule out and your kids should get to go fwd. Every time I turn around they have changed the "rec" age but seem to lack any real good reason except it "could be safer"
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 17, 2011 19:51:51 GMT -5
My nephew was 6 years old before he had ever been in a front seat of a vehicle, and then he had to leave the state he was born in for his parents to decide to allow it. And he was a BIG kid, 9lb 10oz at birth. When I was 6 yrs old kids didn't even have to WEAR seatbelts (that was right when they changed) yet some how we all survived!! And I think most of our kids will too. When the risk of breaking your legs from a minor accident is greater then the risk of any neck injury I think common sense should rule out and your kids should get to go fwd. Every time I turn around they have changed the "rec" age but seem to lack any real good reason except it "could be safer" Actually, with air bags children aren't supposed to be in the front until they are 12. I started letting my oldest (who is tall for her age) ride shotgun when she was 11.
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Post by The Home 6 on May 17, 2011 19:53:16 GMT -5
When I was 6 yrs old kids didn't even have to WEAR seatbelts (that was right when they changed) yet some how we all survived!! My dad likes to tell the story of how his brother fell out of the car when Grandma took a corner a wee bit fast in the car. I can just see my uncle running after the car shouting, "Wait for me!" And I do believe he was just a sprout, maybe 4 or 5 at the time.
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May 17, 2011 19:57:30 GMT -5
Post by zibazinski on May 17, 2011 19:57:30 GMT -5
They could see out the windows. I traded the mini van for a real car the minute DD turned 5. I think we used a booster until then. Don't know if it was a law or not but probably or I'd have done it sooner.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2011 21:24:33 GMT -5
Actually, with air bags children aren't supposed to be in the front until they are 12. I started letting my oldest (who is tall for her age) ride shotgun when she was 11. I'm pretty easy going and I doubt I'll extended rear face, but my soon to be 9 year old has never ridden in front either. Even our 16 year old car has front air bags and they can't be turned off and those things scare me with kids. He's happy in back, so it's no big deal.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2011 21:43:48 GMT -5
Actually, with air bags children aren't supposed to be in the front until they are 12. I started letting my oldest (who is tall for her age) ride shotgun when she was 11. I'm pretty easy going and I doubt I'll extended rear face, but my soon to be 9 year old has never ridden in front either. Even our 16 year old car has front air bags and they can't be turned off and those things scare me with kids. He's happy in back, so it's no big deal. You do realize that since the recommendation is to rearface until age 2, rearfacing past age 1 is not considered extended rearfacing, it's the standard. So instead you will prematurely forward face.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2011 8:33:13 GMT -5
I'm pretty easy going and I doubt I'll extended rear face, but my soon to be 9 year old has never ridden in front either. Even our 16 year old car has front air bags and they can't be turned off and those things scare me with kids. He's happy in back, so it's no big deal. You do realize that since the recommendation is to rearface until age 2, rearfacing past age 1 is not considered extended rearfacing, it's the standard. So instead you will prematurely forward face. Breastfeeding until age one is also the recommendation, but I wouldn't call a formula feeder a "premature weaner".
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May 18, 2011 9:04:54 GMT -5
Post by zibazinski on May 18, 2011 9:04:54 GMT -5
I did do the front seat thing becxause of the air bags, the age thing but I am short and the air bags still make me nervous.
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May 18, 2011 9:05:50 GMT -5
Post by zibazinski on May 18, 2011 9:05:50 GMT -5
When ANYONE rides in my front passenger seat, the seat is as far back as I can make it go.
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Post by yogiii on May 18, 2011 9:06:34 GMT -5
Way back, someone asked about rearfacing in small cars. I have a compact car and both DH and I are tall (6' and 5'8"). We had a chicco keyfit 30 that we used until 10 months and now we have a britax roundabout 55 that we rear-face and mostly likely will until DS is 2. The britax takes up less space than the keyfit.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2011 9:13:07 GMT -5
Way back, someone asked about rearfacing in small cars. I have a compact car and both DH and I are tall (6' and 5'8"). We had a chicco keyfit 30 that we used until 10 months and now we have a britax roundabout 55 that we rear-face and mostly likely will until DS is 2. The britax takes up less space than the keyfit. Thank you for weighing in with your experience. As I said earlier, a rearfacing convertible takes up less space than an infant seat because it doesn't have to be at a 45 degree angle.
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Post by Taxman10 on May 18, 2011 9:40:44 GMT -5
Having two young kids and another on the way, I am really not trying to be flip about the whole thing. That being said - I just can't keep up anymore. It starts with pregnancy and what you can and can not eat or can and can not do and can and can not be exposed to. Then it's car seats and cribs and bumper pads and certain types of toys and gates for the stairs and all the locks and child-proof equipment and who knows what else. And to all that if you add all the "environmental" dangers and BPA's in plastic bottles and lead poisoning and I don't even know what else.....
The guidelines change more frequently than I change my underwear and it's all just too much!!!!!!!!!No shit! I can't turn on the TV and avoid hearing yet another "study" that is the complete opposite of what I was just told yesterday. I told DH I can't win, no matter what I do I am a crappy parent because in 24 hours some new guideline is going to crop up and now I am "bad" because I was following yesterday's! OT - I'll chime in on this. My favorite recommendation was peanut butter. When DD was a baby, it was "recommended" that kids have have PB until after 1 or 2 b/c of the likelyhood of allergies. I knew that was b/s, and DD liked PB & J, so she got it. Then about 6 months ago, I read an article that said new research showed that kids should have PB before age 1, and the delayed introduction of PB actually lead to HIGHER peanut allergies! LOL **rolling eyes**
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May 18, 2011 9:42:44 GMT -5
Post by 973beachbum on May 18, 2011 9:42:44 GMT -5
I want to thank everyone on this thread. This thread was sooooooo funny. When I had my DD we had almost no money. We had one convertible car seat that we switched every time she changed cars. It had a tag from the manufacturer to switch from rear facing to forward at 22 lbs. My DD hit that at maybe 5 months. The Dr's office handed me stuff saying she HAD to stay rear facing till 1 year. I called the manufacture and they said that the car seat was only crash tested up to a particular weight and once the child hits that weight you MUST flip it around. Nothing like two supposed experts with complete opposite opinions. This is another one of those if a little is good than a lot is better arguments. If rear facing is good till 1 then rear facing till 8 is even better. They would be even safer if we didn't let them out of the house till they were 8 too, I'm sure.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 18, 2011 9:47:12 GMT -5
When DD was a baby, it was "recommended" that kids have have PB until after 1 or 2 b/c of the likelyhood of allergies. I knew that was b/s, and DD liked PB & J, so she got it. Then about 6 months ago, I read an article that said new research showed that kids should have PB before age 1, and the delayed introduction of PB actually lead to HIGHER peanut allergies! LOL **rolling eyes** Our pediatrician told us that tradionally you start with rice cereal for solids, it's gluten free and easy to digest. Next day on GMA a pediatrican was saying if you feed your child rice cereal at 6 months they are going to end up a morbidly obese adult. Which I think is a pretty far stretch, IMO. The logic was rice cereal is processed and sweet therefore you foster in them a taste for sweet foods. Umm. .. my milk pretty much tastes like sugar water so haven't I ALREADY programmed DD to like sweets? Rice cereal doesn't compare on the sweetness level to my milk. Trying to use logic when listening to parenting advice makes my head hurt.
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May 18, 2011 10:01:25 GMT -5
Post by swamp on May 18, 2011 10:01:25 GMT -5
We are TERRIBLE with the music we listen to in he car. DS's current sing along fav is Red Neck Woman. So, you're telling my I shouldn't let my kids sign along with Kid Rock's "So Hott" ?
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 18, 2011 10:03:33 GMT -5
I let DD play with the dancing cavemen I got DH for Valentine's Day a couple years ago and it sings "You and me baby ain't nothing but mammals so let's do it like they do on the Discovery Channel". DH has recently started commenting that maybe we shouldn't be letting her listen to that song.
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May 18, 2011 10:36:20 GMT -5
Post by Colleenz on May 18, 2011 10:36:20 GMT -5
You guys are the best parenting affirmation coaches ever!
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May 18, 2011 11:19:28 GMT -5
Post by Angel! on May 18, 2011 11:19:28 GMT -5
Way back, someone asked about rearfacing in small cars. I have a compact car and both DH and I are tall (6' and 5'8"). We had a chicco keyfit 30 that we used until 10 months and now we have a britax roundabout 55 that we rear-face and mostly likely will until DS is 2. The britax takes up less space than the keyfit. Thank you for weighing in with your experience. As I said earlier, a rearfacing convertible takes up less space than an infant seat because it doesn't have to be at a 45 degree angle. It must depend on the actual carseat. After reading this thread I started doing research into the subject & one of the studies I read said that convertibles tend to be bigger & are more likely to interact with the front seat in an accident in smaller vehicles. When the car seat interacts with the front seat there is actually higher risk of head injury because the car seat doesn't perform as it is intended. Instead of slowing the child down at a lower G, it slams the kid into the front seat which leads to higher G force & the front seat also has a rebound that will slam it back towards the car seat. Funny, the only study that is not available for free online is the study that they based the 2 yr rear-facing recommendation on. Most of the other studies I read through seem to show some improvement with rear-facing as long as the car seat doesn't interact with the front seat, which would be virtually impossible in a small car. The whole thing actually leaves me more worried about the fact that DD's seat is smushed into the car behind the back seat. Apparently to be a good parent I need a large mini-van so my kids can be safe & sit rear-facing.
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Post by 973beachbum on May 18, 2011 11:32:16 GMT -5
"Apparently to be a good parent I need a large mini-van so my kids can be safe & sit rear-facing." Until they graduate HS.
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May 18, 2011 11:33:09 GMT -5
Post by The Home 6 on May 18, 2011 11:33:09 GMT -5
I saw on Good Morning America yesterday that there are CARCINOGENS in the foam in car seats. CARCINOGENS, you guys! We're screwed no matter what!
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