Sum Dum Gai
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on May 13, 2011 16:53:23 GMT -5
Everything you are saying against pageants can also be said against football. There are terrible sports parents too but you seem fine with them getting into sports. No. Sports are based on dedication and talent (which is really just another way of saying dedication since talent is mostly the result of practice anyway). Nobody scores a touchdown because they're cuter than the other guy. Outside of a few cases of crooked officials, the outcome has nothing to do with which team raised more money, or knows all the members of the governing body either. Now granted money still comes into play somewhat, teams from more affluent areas tend to have better practice space, equipment, possibly access to sports medicine experts, masseuses, dietitians, etc, but you mostly excel at sports in direct relation to how much practice you put in, not how you were born looking. I'll give you the terrible sports parents though. Sadly, terrible parents who treat their kids like crap are just a fact of life. The bastards are everywhere.
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Post by Loopdilou on May 13, 2011 17:00:13 GMT -5
Actually, pretty much the only negative that pageants have in common with sports, music, art, etc, etc, etc is overbearing parents. Meanwhile, you've got a slew of other truly terrible things (objectification, self worth based on looks, early sexualization, etc) that really just apply to pageants. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by sesfw on May 13, 2011 20:18:59 GMT -5
I keep thinking of Jon-Benet Ramsey.
I personally would find a summer cheer camp for her. Think she would have a great time and meet others her own age.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 22:19:04 GMT -5
Kids take drugs to improve their sports performance. Athletes have been known to feel entitled to abuse other people in many ways, from the jock bullying the geeks to the college kids that feel entitled to rape women. The problem with athletes is them getting the idea that if they can throw a good ball they can behave in any obnoxious way they please. There must be something there that is not good for childhood development.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 22:19:57 GMT -5
Actually, pretty much the only negative that pageants have in common with sports, music, art, etc, etc, etc is overbearing parents. Meanwhile, you've got a slew of other truly terrible things (objectification, self worth based on looks, early sexualization, etc) that really just apply to pageants. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Irony or sarcasm? I always get those two mixed up ;D
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2011 9:19:46 GMT -5
LOL Is there a good choice there?
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Post by formerexpat on May 14, 2011 13:13:30 GMT -5
How does she get these items that you don't approve of her wearing?
If it's not available, she can't wear it. If she buys it or it is bought for her and you do not approve of it; shred it.
Second this.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on May 14, 2011 15:30:39 GMT -5
How does she get these items that you don't approve of her wearing? This I can actually understand a bit. See, you buy your daughter a cute skirt, or pair of shorts. Next thing you know they've grown like four inches, all in their legs, and the skirt (which is now her favorite thing in the world to wear) is a super mini-skirt and the shorts are basically just underwear. It happens surprisingly quickly, and I have to be the bad guy who forbids her from wearing said item anymore.
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Post by debtheaven on May 14, 2011 19:45:26 GMT -5
Snerd, what did your DD decide to do?
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Post by formerexpat on May 14, 2011 22:06:12 GMT -5
Seems a bit too much to me. If she's comfortable, what does it matter if she's wearing long sleeve or short?
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Post by ty on May 15, 2011 7:44:12 GMT -5
Why ask? You are going to do what you want to do regardless of what people have to say on here. You make the final decision whether its a good or bad one. It's all on your head as a parent. Not ours. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by swamp on May 15, 2011 8:18:24 GMT -5
Cuz my kids will go out with shorts and flip flops in the middle of winter. I don't think dressing your 9 yr old in weather appropriate clothes is bordering on 'extreme parenting. I let them go out in the inappropriate clothes. They usually change their minds pretty quickly that they arent dressed warm enough.
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Post by happyscooter on May 15, 2011 8:43:50 GMT -5
Principal at our local hs keeps the temp at around 64 degrees. In the winter. You should see what the girls wear. No hoochie mama clothes for them.
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Post by swamp on May 15, 2011 8:45:27 GMT -5
I let my teen sons wear shorts in the winter. And, if they want to go out in just a hoodie when it is 5 degrees out, then that is pretty stupid but they have to learn. However, a teen and a 9 yr old is 2 different things. And, my daughter also has issues with asthma, bronchitis, etc. So, it isn't just a question of being cold. My kids are 3 and 5. This winter they both went out in weather in appropriate clothes and changed their minds pretty quickly that they wanted warmer clothes. They now usually listen when I tell them they need a coat. DD, the 3 y.o., still doesn't like to wear a coat when it's warmer than 50. I bring one with me, but I don't force the issue.
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Post by formerexpat on May 15, 2011 9:28:45 GMT -5
Exactly. My mother used to get mad at me because I'd go out in short sleeve t-shirts when it was "cold" out. Why - because I wasn't cold and am a "human heater". I did it well into my 20's before I started to get cold but generally still don't wear a coat in the winter. After I proved to her with research that dressing in a short sleeve shirt in the middle of winter does not stop or cause a cold, she really had no argument.
This has nothing to do with a person wearing short sleeves outside. Colds, bronchitis and even asthma aren't avoided by dressing warmly in the winter.
I'm just saying that it doesn't seem like something you want to have a "Battle Royale" over with a 9 year old. It seems like wasted energy for little to no return.
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