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Post by happyscooter on May 12, 2011 7:33:15 GMT -5
They usually have to sell ads for the program, that's where the money comes from. Check into that really well before you sign up.
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Post by chiver78 on May 12, 2011 7:33:31 GMT -5
I don't know if you've seen this, but you should rent/Red Box Little Miss Sunshine. if she still wants to do it, I'd probably humor her. just this once.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2011 7:34:19 GMT -5
lock her in the basement. NOW!
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Post by happyscooter on May 12, 2011 7:34:22 GMT -5
And about 10 years ago, there was an article in the paper about misuse of funds for a Jr. Miss pageant. Some of the winners didn't get their scholarship money that they had been promised.
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Post by 973beachbum on May 12, 2011 7:39:48 GMT -5
lock her in the basement. NOW! That is my first instinct too. Did anyone see the GMA thing this morning on the Beauty Pagent mom who administers Botox to her 8 year old because she want to get rid of her "wrinkles"? She also put the kid through waxing of her legs. (there is no emoticon out there that can convey how horrid I think this is!)
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2011 7:40:16 GMT -5
I don't have a daughter, but if I did...no freaking way would I ever let her go in a pageant. I'd push her to show horses instead. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2011 7:42:01 GMT -5
I say why not, if she is the one that really wants to do it and you can afford it.
My problem is when the parents are the ones forcing their kids to do it and trying to live thru them.
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Post by daisylu on May 12, 2011 8:19:20 GMT -5
She is interested in things that are not necessarily my thing but what she likes. She started Cheerleading last year. I didn't want to start her in that, it was very demanding, expensive, and time consuming compared to some other things. But, she wanted to do it so i sucked it up. And, she really enjoyed it and looked darn cute in her cheer outfit. And, when we went for sign ups, i saw what was involved and said "nah". We left and when we got to the car, i talked to her about what was involved and maybe she really didn't want to do it, etc. She looked at me through her tears and said "mom, maybe that isn't your thing, but it is mine". So, i hugged her, went back in, signed on the dotted line, and then forked over! Oh man, she is good! And she is only 9! What mom could have NOT caved?
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Post by Mrs. Dinero on May 12, 2011 8:22:38 GMT -5
This sounds exactly like my DD. She cheered last year, wanted to do the same pageant, and is the girliest girl. Funny because I am not. I go shopping to buy a selected item. I go to the black pants, find my size, pay, and leave. DD wants to look at every item and loves to try each item on. I told DD no on the pageant because of the fund-raising that I would do. It actually seems like a great experience for young ladies. They interview, public speak, and walk/model dresses ( no swimsuit as I recall). If you can handle the fund-raising aspect I say let her do it and tell us all about it.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2011 8:22:41 GMT -5
At least you don't have to buy her a violin because she is playing you just like a fiddle.
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Post by ty on May 12, 2011 8:31:07 GMT -5
My daughter got a flier for "National Miss" or something pageant. It is out of town of course. And involves "formal wear' and would require traveling to the location, some fees, etc. I really dont' know as i was going to toss the flier. But, my daughter (9) latched on to it and is talking about what she is going to wear, what talent to perform, etc. I don't know whether to try something like this or squash her dream! Ugh! Common sense would tell you no, no common sense would say yes. Save the money for her college for when the times come. My niece did this only to learn that they already had a winner before the pageant even started. These stupid pageants need your money to keep them going and nothing more. With out your money they fade away, with stupid people putting their money into them they continue on. The more money you support them with, and if you are the highest bidder of the pageant, then the chances of your daughter winning becomes greater. Save the money and let your 9 yo be a 9 yo, and put the money into a college fund for her.
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Post by Urban Chicago on May 12, 2011 8:56:23 GMT -5
My only thought is: If you think Cheerleading is expensive, just wait until you see what that formal wear costs!
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2011 8:58:56 GMT -5
Ok I am not a parent but seriously if I had a daughter and I could afford... I say why not!
She is a girly girl and you know that. She might end up loving it or hating it, who knows. But at least let her find out on her own.
I am not saying say yes to everything your child ask for but really what is the harm in doing a pageant?
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Post by happyscooter on May 12, 2011 9:01:04 GMT -5
Some of the local pageants here do not allow formal dresses. I know your form says this one does allow it, make sure their definition of 'formal' and yours is the same. Most around here say 'Sunday or dressy wear.'
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Post by Martivir on May 12, 2011 9:02:38 GMT -5
Or you could always suggest a middle ground like asking if it's possible to have a beauty pageant as a fund raiser for her cheerleading. I remember doing that for girl scouts.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2011 9:06:45 GMT -5
I am not saying say yes to everything your child ask for but really what is the harm in doing a pageant? I just find the whole concept of pageants repulsive.
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Post by pig on May 12, 2011 9:08:19 GMT -5
Should I Let My Daughter Compete in a Pageant? If she looks anything like you, no. No sense in setting her up for failure. ![](http://boards.msn.com/Themes/default/emoticons/tongue_smile.gif)
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2011 9:13:03 GMT -5
If you don't have any problem with it and can afford it then let her do it. What anyone here thinks doesn't matter.
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Post by daisylu on May 12, 2011 9:14:43 GMT -5
Why? Lots of things can be done just for fun. What is wrong with a pretty girl in a pretty dress prancing on stage and being admired? IA with this in theory, but be warned that the attention that these girls get can be addictive. I have seen it in my family, and EXPENSIVE does not even begin to cover it. That is not to say that I would not let her try it - if it was my daughter I probably could not say no the first time.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on May 12, 2011 15:43:41 GMT -5
We have had Battle Royale over what to wear to school. I cannot make her wear or do anything she doesn't want to do. At 9?? Holy cow, her teenage years are going to be fun to read about.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2011 15:54:58 GMT -5
I'd be tempted to just refuse because I don't care for pageants, but assuming it is financially an option for your family, why don't you make her earn it. Buy her own entry fees and formal wear (obviously - this would be chores money since she is too young for a job), show you that she has a talent prepared, etc.
You already support her in her cheerleading - if she wants an additional extracurricular activity, she should have to do a bit more of the work herself.
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Post by zibazinski on May 12, 2011 15:55:57 GMT -5
This is so funny how parents get "hooked" into this nonsense.
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Post by zibazinski on May 12, 2011 15:59:20 GMT -5
No, and it isn't abnormal that you put up with it, either, judging by your posts. If you can't control a 9 year old, GOD help you when she is 13.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on May 12, 2011 15:59:20 GMT -5
Is that abnormal for a 9 yr old girl? My 9 year old doesn't get to get away with it. She's pretty independent, which I actually think is a good thing, but when I use my dad voice it means I'm done screwing around and whatever I just said is the way it is. End of discussion.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on May 12, 2011 16:03:08 GMT -5
To answer your original question; the idea of beauty pageants make my skin crawl, but if one of my daughters wanted to do one I'd probably let her. I'm not sure Loop would though.
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Post by zibazinski on May 12, 2011 16:03:38 GMT -5
Yes, but then if you really told your DD " NO" then you would be a bad mother not the earth mother friend who is the best person on earth and everyone else who doesn't sacrifice everything for their kids or families, even extended family, is a cheap unfeeling louse.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on May 12, 2011 16:08:05 GMT -5
Every mom I ever knew still had the mom voice. You could tell immediately from the tone that whoever that voice was directed at had just crossed a line.
It's like the middle name thing. If my mom ever used our middle name we knew we were in for it.
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Post by zibazinski on May 12, 2011 16:08:12 GMT -5
Sigh, and it does moms such a disservice. I know DD never pulls the crap with the sperm donor that she does with me and it aggravates the hell out of me.
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Post by tloonya on May 12, 2011 16:14:02 GMT -5
We did National Miss when my daughter was 9. We have decided to make it a short family vacation. Hotel was nice. Meeting a lot of different girls and their moms was quite an axperience. All good! Send me a private message and I will tell you all of it. There is a lot to tell.
And for those of you who just saying that she needs to be locked in a basement...@!(!*#$^@#$
If you have thought your child right from wrong - pageant will not make her bad. You can learn so much about your child at such event - you will be amazed! I know we did...
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Post by gsbrq on May 12, 2011 18:45:12 GMT -5
I am not saying say yes to everything your child ask for but really what is the harm in doing a pageant? I just find the whole concept of pageants repulsive. Agree. Obviously your kids' interests are going to differ from your own, but I'd draw the line at activities that conflict with my values, so I would not permit it. Others may feel differently. To each his own.
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