How Donold Trump will overthrow the 2024 Election

[Tiny]

Just putting this here as it might be important in November.


Basically:   Donold has been telling his supporters "he didn't need their vote"   and  then changed it to "vote in November and then they wouldn't have to vote again". 

Why?  Why is he so confident he doesn't need votes?  Why would he tell his supporters this?    (it does kind of explain why JD Vance is Donold's VP choice... it doesn't matter WHO is the VP choice...) 

Donold's got an Ace in the Hole: 

From the video below: 

 ...telling voters do not bother to vote for me it doesn't matter if you do I don't need your votes that is a thing that should prick up your ears because what that means is that he doesn't think he needs

to win the vote to win the election. He doesn't think he needs to win the election in order to take power. He thinks something other than votes is going to determine whether or not he gets back in the White

House.  

At Rolling Stone today they profile 70 different election officials who have been put into position in the swing states of Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania who are election denialists.  Committed election denialists.  Officials that have been put in place in all of the swing states to make sure that election results no matter what they are do not get certified in those States this year. 

"At least 22 of these election officials have already refused or delayed certification processes in recent elections", according to Democratic election lawyer Mark Elias.  "I think we are going to see mass refusals to certify the election in November." 

Republicans are counting on not just that they can disrupt the election in big counties, they're counting on the fact that if they don't certify in several small counties you can't certify statewide results.
70 officials in place across just the swing States for all the surface level weird behavior and language and strange choices and incoherence and odd donors in the Republican campaign the serious core at the heart of it is that they are not planning on the vote being counted as normal.   They are not counting on the election results being tallied as normal. They are not counting on the vote and, in fact, Trump is now repeatedly saying the vote will not matter. He doesn't even want your vote. The Republicans are counting on the election results not being certified thereby creating chaos in Washington around the results just like 2020.  Just like January 6 2021.  Except this time with no Mike Pence in the way and with Republican officials already in place in multiple States you may not get any sort of official vote.  The weirdness of this campaign is astonishing 99 days out.   

Maddow Reveals The HIDDEN TRUTH Behind Trump’s NEW Scandal

[djAdvocate]

it is clear that many people don't care about elections.

it is just as clear that many more do.

that is what this election will end up being about.

we will see how well these folks hold up when a million voters camp out on their front lawns.

[Opti]

I don't want to Trump to win, so I am going to say what I want to happen.

There are ways that Trump and the GOP haters of America set things up so they can win. I want them to fail in their attempts and for some of them to be criminally charged if at all possible. How Trump will lose is what I want to see. 

I remain very angry that old people like Pelosi and Schumer played into Trump's hands by sidelining Biden. 
Pelosi is 84 yrs old, born in 1940. I think she will has most of her marbles, but when heat and hot heads prevail - stupid happens.
Schumer is just 73 yrs old but in style seems older than he is.

[Tennesseer]

Why Trump targeted Christians with his darkest promise yet
It is the most definitive statement to date of his intention to implement the Christian nationalist autocracy sought by his most ardent believers.

In a speech at the Turning Point USA Believers’ Summit on Friday, Donald Trump implored audience members to vote in the 2024 election, assuring them that, if he gets a second term, “it’ll be fine, you won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians.” In four years, he reiterated, “you don’t have to vote again. We’ll have it fixed so good, you’re not going to have to vote.”

Even Fox News host Laura Ingraham recognized the anti-democratic promise that his supporters “won’t have to vote anymore” had created problems for Trump. In an interview with the former president on Monday, she encouraged him to clarify his statement, yet he continued to repeat it multiple times. Taken together with the rest of Trump’s speech, in which he cast himself as a divinely protected savior of his supporters’ vision for America, and falsely portrayed Kamala Harris as a ruthless persecutor of patriotic believers, his doubling down on his promise to “fix” it sends an unambiguous message. It is the most definitive statement to date of his intention to implement the Christian nationalist autocracy sought by his most ardent believers.

Trump made false claims that the Biden-Harris administration “weaponized” the government against Christians, and picked up on an attack circulating in right-wing media that Kamala Harris is anti-Catholic. That smear dates back to Harris’ time as senator and her 2018 questioning of Trump judicial nominee Brian Buescher. Harris had questioned whether Buescher’s membership in the Knights of Columbus, a fraternal Catholic organization that vociferously opposes reproductive and LGBTQ rights, would impede his impartiality as a judge. At the time, the pro-choice group Catholics for Choice defended Harris, arguing that the Knights of Columbus was no apolitical charity as conservatives claimed, but “brazenly used” its status “to pour money, effort and influence into political contests and policy debates.”

Rest of article here: Why Trump targeted Christians with his darkest promise yet

[happyhoix]

Jul 30, 2024 22:59:53 GMT -5 Tiny said:

Just putting this here as it might be important in November.


Basically:   Donold has been telling his supporters "he didn't need their vote"   and  then changed it to "vote in November and then they wouldn't have to vote again". 

Why?  Why is he so confident he doesn't need votes?  Why would he tell his supporters this?    (it does kind of explain why JD Vance is Donold's VP choice... it doesn't matter WHO is the VP choice...) 

Donold's got an Ace in the Hole: 

From the video below: 

 ...telling voters do not bother to vote for me it doesn't matter if you do I don't need your votes that is a thing that should prick up your ears because what that means is that he doesn't think he needs

to win the vote to win the election. He doesn't think he needs to win the election in order to take power. He thinks something other than votes is going to determine whether or not he gets back in the White

House.  

At Rolling Stone today they profile 70 different election officials who have been put into position in the swing states of Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania who are election denialists.  Committed election denialists.  Officials that have been put in place in all of the swing states to make sure that election results no matter what they are do not get certified in those States this year. 

"At least 22 of these election officials have already refused or delayed certification processes in recent elections", according to Democratic election lawyer Mark Elias.  "I think we are going to see mass refusals to certify the election in November." 

Republicans are counting on not just that they can disrupt the election in big counties, they're counting on the fact that if they don't certify in several small counties you can't certify statewide results.
70 officials in place across just the swing States for all the surface level weird behavior and language and strange choices and incoherence and odd donors in the Republican campaign the serious core at the heart of it is that they are not planning on the vote being counted as normal.   They are not counting on the election results being tallied as normal. They are not counting on the vote and, in fact, Trump is now repeatedly saying the vote will not matter. He doesn't even want your vote. The Republicans are counting on the election results not being certified thereby creating chaos in Washington around the results just like 2020.  Just like January 6 2021.  Except this time with no Mike Pence in the way and with Republican officials already in place in multiple States you may not get any sort of official vote.  The weirdness of this campaign is astonishing 99 days out.   

Maddow Reveals The HIDDEN TRUTH Behind Trump’s NEW Scandal

Trump believes he has an ace up his sleeve.

He’s a narcissist, and they always believe they are right, with the best plan.

Last time he thought his ace was Pence and the GOP heads of several swing states, like Georgia. I have no doubt he has been installing Trump friendly minions in multiple states. But will they be willing to blatantly throw out votes to swing the vote - and would that survive legal appeals? I certainly don’t think they would be clever enough to completely hide what they did.

I think Trump will try to pull some shit. I think he will also try to instigate a coup - after all, he has complete immunity now. But his minions don’t. I think there will be years of litigation again, if he loses, and I think he will never admit he lost (again) but if Harris wins by a big enough margin, I don’t think he can seize the throne. Clearly he thinks he can. Hopefully I’m right.

[billisonboard]

Jul 31, 2024 8:22:59 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Jul 30, 2024 22:59:53 GMT -5 Tiny said:

Just putting this here as it might be important in November.


Basically:   Donold has been telling his supporters "he didn't need their vote"   and  then changed it to "vote in November and then they wouldn't have to vote again". 

Why?  Why is he so confident he doesn't need votes?  Why would he tell his supporters this?    (it does kind of explain why JD Vance is Donold's VP choice... it doesn't matter WHO is the VP choice...) 

Donold's got an Ace in the Hole: 

From the video below: 

Maddow Reveals The HIDDEN TRUTH Behind Trump’s NEW Scandal

Trump believes he has an ace up his sleeve.

He’s a narcissist, and they always believe they are right, with the best plan.

Last time he thought his ace was Pence and the GOP heads of several swing states, like Georgia. I have no doubt he has been installing Trump friendly minions in multiple states. But will they be willing to blatantly throw out votes to swing the vote - and would that survive legal appeals? I certainly don’t think they would be clever enough to completely hide what they did.

I think Trump will try to pull some shit. I think he will also try to instigate a coup - after all, he has complete immunity now. But his minions don’t. I think there will be years of litigation again, if he loses, and I think he will never admit he lost (again) but if Harris wins by a big enough margin, I don’t think he can seize the throne. Clearly he thinks he can. Hopefully I’m right.

I don't think he has immunity for actions he takes at a time his status is former president.

[Opti]

Jul 31, 2024 8:34:15 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 31, 2024 8:22:59 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Trump believes he has an ace up his sleeve.

He’s a narcissist, and they always believe they are right, with the best plan.

Last time he thought his ace was Pence and the GOP heads of several swing states, like Georgia. I have no doubt he has been installing Trump friendly minions in multiple states. But will they be willing to blatantly throw out votes to swing the vote - and would that survive legal appeals? I certainly don’t think they would be clever enough to completely hide what they did.

I think Trump will try to pull some shit. I think he will also try to instigate a coup - after all, he has complete immunity now. But his minions don’t. I think there will be years of litigation again, if he loses, and I think he will never admit he lost (again) but if Harris wins by a big enough margin, I don’t think he can seize the throne. Clearly he thinks he can. Hopefully I’m right.

I don't think he has immunity for actions he takes at a time his status is former president.

I don't think had immunity b4, but no one was willing to go up against him to find out. I think both Putin and Trump have miscalculated badly. Trump is no longer an unknown, and Putin is working on his legacy because he feels he doesn't have much time left as a leader. So two of a kind in some sense. 

[thyme4change]

Jul 31, 2024 5:51:48 GMT -5 Opti said:

I don't want to Trump to win, so I am going to say what I want to happen.

There are ways that Trump and the GOP haters of America set things up so they can win. I want them to fail in their attempts and for some of them to be criminally charged if at all possible. How Trump will lose is what I want to see. 

I remain very angry that old people like Pelosi and Schumer played into Trump's hands by sidelining Biden. 
Pelosi is 84 yrs old, born in 1940. I think she will has most of her marbles, but when heat and hot heads prevail - stupid happens.
Schumer is just 73 yrs old but in style seems older than he is.

Your objection to Biden stepping down is noted - but 80% of voters are glad he did - so even if Harris loses, Biden was far, far, far from a guaranteed win.

Maybe you can keep your repetitive rant about this to the appropriate thread. This is about the inner workings of our voting systems and how Trump is trying to circumvent them. The Dem process for picking a nominee does not belong here and sidetracking every thread to express your opinion only makes the entire board boring. So, please, take this back to the other thread and stay on this extremely important topic.

[happyhoix]

Jul 31, 2024 8:34:15 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 31, 2024 8:22:59 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Trump believes he has an ace up his sleeve.

He’s a narcissist, and they always believe they are right, with the best plan.

Last time he thought his ace was Pence and the GOP heads of several swing states, like Georgia. I have no doubt he has been installing Trump friendly minions in multiple states. But will they be willing to blatantly throw out votes to swing the vote - and would that survive legal appeals? I certainly don’t think they would be clever enough to completely hide what they did.

I think Trump will try to pull some shit. I think he will also try to instigate a coup - after all, he has complete immunity now. But his minions don’t. I think there will be years of litigation again, if he loses, and I think he will never admit he lost (again) but if Harris wins by a big enough margin, I don’t think he can seize the throne. Clearly he thinks he can. Hopefully I’m right.

I don't think he has immunity for actions he takes at a time his status is former president.

I don’t either, but to hear him talk about it, he has complete immunity all the time.

He hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest, to quote a Paul Simon song.

[billisonboard]

I was doing a shift yesterday as an official observer for the primary election ballot count for our county. The Republican Party observer commented how most of her fellow party members wouldn't attend the non-required virtual orientation nor sign up for observing shifts but still complained endlessly about election fraud.

[Opti]

Jul 31, 2024 9:04:59 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Jul 31, 2024 5:51:48 GMT -5 Opti said:

I don't want to Trump to win, so I am going to say what I want to happen.

There are ways that Trump and the GOP haters of America set things up so they can win. I want them to fail in their attempts and for some of them to be criminally charged if at all possible. How Trump will lose is what I want to see. 

I remain very angry that old people like Pelosi and Schumer played into Trump's hands by sidelining Biden. 
Pelosi is 84 yrs old, born in 1940. I think she will has most of her marbles, but when heat and hot heads prevail - stupid happens.
Schumer is just 73 yrs old but in style seems older than he is.

Your objection to Biden stepping down is noted - but 80% of voters are glad he did - so even if Harris loses, Biden was far, far, far from a guaranteed win.

Maybe you can keep your repetitive rant about this to the appropriate thread. This is about the inner workings of our voting systems and how Trump is trying to circumvent them. The Dem process for picking a nominee does not belong here and sidetracking every thread to express your opinion only makes the entire board boring. So, please, take this back to the other thread and stay on this extremely important topic.

On the bolded we will continue to disagree.


www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/almost-two-thirds-of-democrats-want-biden-to-step-down-poll-finds/ar-BB1qa7Cz


The big picture: Overall, 70% of U.S. voters want Biden to withdraw from the 2024 race, while only 57% want to see former President Trump withdraw.

By any measure that isn't sheeple marketing, Trump has lost way more marbles than Trump has. Yet if you see the above there is a 13% difference in perception of abilities comparing Trump to Biden. And a good part of that is media, Fox replays Biden gaffes practically on a loop every hour on the hour and the major channels did none of that in comparison. Except they decided to market their news is Joe is old instead of Joe is dehydrated, Joe has Covid, lots of people in the US are suffering from heat related issues.

Even the late night comics did it because they are lazy. Joe old, Trump crazy. But sadly Trump crazy seems to be a feature not a bug for the uninformed to barely informed.

However, Trump enjoys high support from within his own party. Only 26% of Republicans think he should exit the race and let the GOP pick a different candidate, while 73% of Republicans want him to keep running.

Only 35% of Democrats want Biden to stay in the 2024 race.

So a tale of two parties. The GOP knows incumbents usually fare far better than someone new. Dems are anxious folk that can throw an election at the drop of the hat. Al Gore, etc. When I get to it, I will repost the keys and why we should have just weekend at Bernie's it until after Biden/Harris won. Now? 

[thyme4change]

Arizona local official who defended elections against GOP attacks is ousted in primary

PHOENIX — Stephen Richer, who’s been a fierce defender of the integrity of Maricopa County elections since he was elected as county recorder in 2020, has lost a Republican primary to keep that role, according to a race call by The Associated Press.

Maricopa County's Stephen Richer loses Republican primary

www.npr.org/2024/07/31/nx-s1-5058464/stephen-richer-maricopa-county-elections-arizona-primary

I feel for this guy. He is a lifelong Republican and a staunch conservative and the leopards ate his face because he was doing the right thing. I admire that he stayed principled and didn’t cave to the pressure like some other AZ officials **cough**Brnovich**cough**. They both lost their jobs and are on the outs with the GOP - but one of them stayed strong.

[billisonboard]

Jul 31, 2024 9:04:59 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Jul 31, 2024 5:51:48 GMT -5 Opti said:

I don't want to Trump to win, so I am going to say what I want to happen.

There are ways that Trump and the GOP haters of America set things up so they can win. I want them to fail in their attempts and for some of them to be criminally charged if at all possible. How Trump will lose is what I want to see. 

I remain very angry that old people like Pelosi and Schumer played into Trump's hands by sidelining Biden. 
Pelosi is 84 yrs old, born in 1940. I think she will has most of her marbles, but when heat and hot heads prevail - stupid happens.
Schumer is just 73 yrs old but in style seems older than he is.

Your objection to Biden stepping down is noted - but 80% of voters are glad he did - so even if Harris loses, Biden was far, far, far from a guaranteed win.

Maybe you can keep your repetitive rant about this to the appropriate thread. This is about the inner workings of our voting systems and how Trump is trying to circumvent them. The Dem process for picking a nominee does not belong here and sidetracking every thread to express your opinion only makes the entire board boring. So, please, take this back to the other thread and stay on this extremely important topic.

Perhaps we can get djAdvocate to start an "Official Biden Got Screwed Thread"

[djAdvocate]

Jul 31, 2024 8:22:59 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Jul 30, 2024 22:59:53 GMT -5 Tiny said:

Just putting this here as it might be important in November.


Basically:   Donold has been telling his supporters "he didn't need their vote"   and  then changed it to "vote in November and then they wouldn't have to vote again". 

Why?  Why is he so confident he doesn't need votes?  Why would he tell his supporters this?    (it does kind of explain why JD Vance is Donold's VP choice... it doesn't matter WHO is the VP choice...) 

Donold's got an Ace in the Hole: 

From the video below: 

Maddow Reveals The HIDDEN TRUTH Behind Trump’s NEW Scandal

Trump believes he has an ace up his sleeve.

He’s a narcissist, and they always believe they are right, with the best plan.

Last time he thought his ace was Pence and the GOP heads of several swing states, like Georgia. I have no doubt he has been installing Trump friendly minions in multiple states. But will they be willing to blatantly throw out votes to swing the vote - and would that survive legal appeals? I certainly don’t think they would be clever enough to completely hide what they did.

I think Trump will try to pull some shit. I think he will also try to instigate a coup - after all, he has complete immunity now. But his minions don’t. I think there will be years of litigation again, if he loses, and I think he will never admit he lost (again) but if Harris wins by a big enough margin, I don’t think he can seize the throne. Clearly he thinks he can. Hopefully I’m right.

i think what Maddow says is only partially true.  the pollwatchers, and the poll administrators will run up against their higher ups who are NOT Trump cronies, in (i think) every case.  so, yes, i have no doubt that Trump will TRY to mess elections up and throw this into the house, where the GOP is currently leading 27:23 (on a governor basis).  i just have serious reservations about whether it will work.

these people have never been all that good at what they do.  and unlike the last two times, we know most of what they will try.  let's hope that is enough.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 31, 2024 14:37:01 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 31, 2024 9:04:59 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Your objection to Biden stepping down is noted - but 80% of voters are glad he did - so even if Harris loses, Biden was far, far, far from a guaranteed win.

Maybe you can keep your repetitive rant about this to the appropriate thread. This is about the inner workings of our voting systems and how Trump is trying to circumvent them. The Dem process for picking a nominee does not belong here and sidetracking every thread to express your opinion only makes the entire board boring. So, please, take this back to the other thread and stay on this extremely important topic.

On the bolded we will continue to disagree.


www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/almost-two-thirds-of-democrats-want-biden-to-step-down-poll-finds/ar-BB1qa7Cz


The big picture: Overall, 70% of U.S. voters want Biden to withdraw from the 2024 race, while only 57% want to see former President Trump withdraw.

By any measure that isn't sheeple marketing, Trump has lost way more marbles than Trump has. Yet if you see the above there is a 13% difference in perception of abilities comparing Trump to Biden. And a good part of that is media, Fox replays Biden gaffes practically on a loop every hour on the hour and the major channels did none of that in comparison. Except they decided to market their news is Joe is old instead of Joe is dehydrated, Joe has Covid, lots of people in the US are suffering from heat related issues.

Even the late night comics did it because they are lazy. Joe old, Trump crazy. But sadly Trump crazy seems to be a feature not a bug for the uninformed to barely informed.

However, Trump enjoys high support from within his own party.
Only 26% of Republicans think he should exit the race
and let the GOP pick a different candidate, while 73% of Republicans want him to keep running.

Only 35% of Democrats want Biden to stay in the 2024 race.

So a tale of two parties. The GOP knows incumbents usually fare far better than someone new. Dems are anxious folk that can throw an election at the drop of the hat. Al Gore, etc. When I get to it, I will repost the keys and why we should have just weekend at Bernie's it until after Biden/Harris won. Now? 

i keep seeing that 20-30% number.  i think that number is very encouraging.

[Tiny]

Just dropping this here:

Basically, it's an article listing the ways voting (and what's a valid vote) have been changed for "transparency" in Georgia.

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/08/trump-georgia-election-board-interference/

Trump’s focus on Georgia election board raises fears for November vote


The board’s majority enacted a series of changes to state election rules this week, days after the former president singled them out for praise at his Atlanta rally.

That makes Bellamy worry that the real purpose of the rule is to sow confusion and hold up legitimate results.

King pushed back on the idea that the rule could delay certification. “They still have to certify within the allotted time,” she said.

That was no comfort for critics, who fear that the board is setting the state up for a tumultuous and potentially violent aftermath to the election. In 2020, Trump and his allies staged a coordinated effort to overturn his defeat in seven states, culminating in a violent attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

“Our State Election Board exists to protect the right to vote for all Georgians, not to favor any single candidate in any election,” said Kevin Olasanoye, the state party’s executive director, in a statement this week. “The three members Donald Trump called his ‘pit bulls’ for ‘victory’ disagree, and they’re determined to establish a new power of not certifying an election result should their preferred candidate lose — as he did in 2020.”

trump is awfully quiet about how corrupt our voting system is. I'm pretty sure trump strongly believes the "fix is in".

[happyhoix]

Aug 8, 2024 18:29:49 GMT -5 Tiny said:

Just dropping this here:

Basically, it's an article listing the ways voting (and what's a valid vote) have been changed for "transparency" in Georgia.

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/08/trump-georgia-election-board-interference/

Trump’s focus on Georgia election board raises fears for November vote


The board’s majority enacted a series of changes to state election rules this week, days after the former president singled them out for praise at his Atlanta rally.

That makes Bellamy worry that the real purpose of the rule is to sow confusion and hold up legitimate results.

King pushed back on the idea that the rule could delay certification. “They still have to certify within the allotted time,” she said.

That was no comfort for critics, who fear that the board is setting the state up for a tumultuous and potentially violent aftermath to the election. In 2020, Trump and his allies staged a coordinated effort to overturn his defeat in seven states, culminating in a violent attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

“Our State Election Board exists to protect the right to vote for all Georgians, not to favor any single candidate in any election,” said Kevin Olasanoye, the state party’s executive director, in a statement this week. “The three members Donald Trump called his ‘pit bulls’ for ‘victory’ disagree, and they’re determined to establish a new power of not certifying an election result should their preferred candidate lose — as he did in 2020.”

trump is awfully quiet about how corrupt our voting system is. I'm pretty sure trump strongly believes the "fix is in".

Georgia has been screwing with the votes for decades. Gerrymandered the crap out of the state, to begin with. I remember in 2020 they shut down a bunch of voting locations in primarily black areas, claiming they weren’t compliant with ADA, while one of the rural polling places in my beet red county is an old mothballed elementary school with degraded steps leading into it that are probably dangerous even for two legged people - and no access at all for wheelchairs. Didn’t shut that one down, though. And while I can pop into my polling place and maybe have to wait thirty minutes, even on Election Day, be prepared to wait 8 - 10 hours in line to vote in Atlanta. Total bullshit. 

[djAdvocate]

Donold? oh....i see what you did there!

[djAdvocate]

Aug 8, 2024 19:46:07 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Aug 8, 2024 18:29:49 GMT -5 Tiny said:

Just dropping this here:

Basically, it's an article listing the ways voting (and what's a valid vote) have been changed for "transparency" in Georgia.

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/08/trump-georgia-election-board-interference/




trump is awfully quiet about how corrupt our voting system is. I'm pretty sure trump strongly believes the "fix is in".

Georgia has been screwing with the votes for decades. Gerrymandered the crap out of the state, to begin with. I remember in 2020 they shut down a bunch of voting locations in primarily black areas, claiming they weren’t compliant with ADA, while one of the rural polling places in my beet red county is an old mothballed elementary school with degraded steps leading into it that are probably dangerous even for two legged people - and no access at all for wheelchairs. Didn’t shut that one down, though. And while I can pop into my polling place and maybe have to wait thirty minutes, even on Election Day, be prepared to wait 8 - 10 hours in line to vote in Atlanta. Total bullshit. 

happy- have those three "elections" officials been asked whether they agree with the official 2020 count?  it would be helpful if that were on the record, NOW.

[happyhoix]

Aug 8, 2024 20:51:43 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Aug 8, 2024 19:46:07 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Georgia has been screwing with the votes for decades. Gerrymandered the crap out of the state, to begin with. I remember in 2020 they shut down a bunch of voting locations in primarily black areas, claiming they weren’t compliant with ADA, while one of the rural polling places in my beet red county is an old mothballed elementary school with degraded steps leading into it that are probably dangerous even for two legged people - and no access at all for wheelchairs. Didn’t shut that one down, though. And while I can pop into my polling place and maybe have to wait thirty minutes, even on Election Day, be prepared to wait 8 - 10 hours in line to vote in Atlanta. Total bullshit. 

happy- have those three "elections" officials been asked whether they agree with the official 2020 count?  it would be helpful if that were on the record, NOW.

Good question. I’ll see if I can find out.

[happyhoix]

In his presser yesterday Trump signaled what election denialism 2024 will look like.

The Dems are allowing hordes of illegals into the country and signing them up to vote.

Despite illegals voting is illegal.

And no evidence that it’s occurring.

But if Trump loses, it will be corrupt elections full of illegals voting.

He’s not going away after Election Day, is he? Win or lose we’re stuck with his smirking face.

[Opti]

Aug 9, 2024 6:59:02 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

In his presser yesterday Trump signaled what election denialism 2024 will look like.

The Dems are allowing hordes of illegals into the country and signing them up to vote.

Despite illegals voting is illegal.

And no evidence that it’s occurring.

But if Trump loses, it will be corrupt elections full of illegals voting.

He’s not going away after Election Day, is he? Win or lose we’re stuck with his smirking face.

If he doesn't win more court cases will go forward. But I think he will keep fighting to the bitter end, scamming and grifting until he can't market anymore because he is drawing his last breath.

If we were Russia or a third world country, he likes to pretend we are he'd be dead already ... or have more serious health problems than his ear from ummm tea. 

[pulmonarymd]

Off trump loses again you will see politicians move away from him. It will take some time, but he will because me irrelevant. He will go kicking and screaming, and his adherents won’t be happy, but I think politicians will just ignore him as a 3 time loser

[azucena]

Aug 9, 2024 7:20:30 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Off trump loses again you will see politicians move away from him. It will take some time, but he will because me irrelevant. He will go kicking and screaming, and his adherents won’t be happy, but I think politicians will just ignore him as a 3 time loser

Pinky swear?

[pulmonarymd]

Aug 9, 2024 8:07:44 GMT -5 azucena said:

Aug 9, 2024 7:20:30 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Off trump loses again you will see politicians move away from him. It will take some time, but he will because me irrelevant. He will go kicking and screaming, and his adherents won’t be happy, but I think politicians will just ignore him as a 3 time loser

Pinky swear?

Hope so. Politicians have very few allegiances. They will be like a rat from a sinking ship

[billisonboard]

Aug 9, 2024 8:53:10 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Aug 9, 2024 8:07:44 GMT -5 azucena said:

Pinky swear?

Hope so. Politicians have very few allegiances. They will be like a rat from a sinking ship

Like they did in 2020. But, whoops, the Trump boat didn't sink so they have climbed back on board. Personally I was wrong thinking it was bound for Davy Jones' locker so am hesitant to be fooled again.

[dondubble]

Aug 9, 2024 9:10:44 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Aug 9, 2024 8:53:10 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Hope so. Politicians have very few allegiances. They will be like a rat from a sinking ship

Like they did in 2020. But, whoops, the Trump boat didn't sink so they have climbed back on board. Personally I was wrong thinking it was bound for Davy Jones' locker so am hesitant to be fooled again.

[djAdvocate]

we'll see.

if he gets the absolute SHIT kicked out of him, it might help us turn the corner. if it is a close election, he will probably stick around. and if he wins, we are finished.

[Opti]

Its important to remember that Trump is a reality TV star that became a Russian asset. And he is wealthier than most of the GOPers in Congress and the Senate. He keeps bringing up Putin would not do X if he were elected because Putin actually prefers doing his stuff more in secret with Trump as cover than this at least 18 months long war he started with Ukraine.
He gets intelligence and arms from the US on the down low from Trump and friends and of course that war will end quickly. With Russia in charge in control of part of the world's food supply etc.

I think Putin is as marginal as Trump. Both have lost lots of marbles and health. What they do still share is paranoia and the ability make too many people believe BS. And there's the Chinese voting machine patents, and who knows what with the Sauds.

[pulmonarymd]

By the time the next election comes around, Trump will be 82, the same age as Biden is now. If the Republican Party continues to follow him, they are going to be electing for extinction. Age alone will make them look for someone to assume the mantle of the MAGA movement