Shooting at Trump Rally

[billisonboard]

Jul 17, 2024 19:30:57 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 17, 2024 18:39:47 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

So say there is a conspiracy, what flavor do we think it is? 

Biden arranged to have someone convince this mentally ill kid to take a shot at Trump to try to kill him? 

Or Trump arranged to have this mentally ill kid take a shot at him, planting a squib to explode as the bullet passed at a safe distance from his head, so he could heroically pump his fist in the air and make everyone adore him? That does actually sound like something Roger Stone would do. Rat fucking, I think he calls it. 

Or maybe a more mundane conspiracy, maybe the SS and the local police are scrambling to cover their asses for doing a really crappy job scoping out the site and monitoring the roof tops. 

IMO not a conspiracy, a plan. Who is benefitting with this attempt and it happening when it happened?

A: Trump and the GOP

So BIden is out of the picture entirely as are the Democrats, there is no advantage to be had from Trump not running.
Now remember with things like the Pizza Parlor shooting (actual RL person) J6, and the attack on Paul Pelosi, the GOP, the Chinese, Russia etc. are all running their misinformation Ops. There was no guarantee on the Pizza Parlor shooter I think, but the anti Pelosi campaign certainly bore fruit. MO.

And I will stop there as I think you are on the wrong tree in calling this guy mentally ill. He is a young male. In a job that doesn't pay well. That works full weekends on a regular basis. 

And lastly, Trump does not like to do things himself unless it involves pretending to be someone else to get a date or something else with a woman he finds sexually attractive.

I don't get the timing advantage. The National Convention two days later were going to put Trump and the GOP in the headlines.

[Opti]

Jul 17, 2024 19:50:16 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 17, 2024 19:36:34 GMT -5 Opti said:

IDK. I just asked to get the ultimate multiverse movie back from the library to watch it again.
Everything Everywhere All at Once

My post was an old ad line for the National Enquirer.

David Pecker, the former publisher of the National Enquirer, testified at Donald Trump's trial Tuesday that the tabloid completely manufactured a negative story in 2016 about the father of Sen. Ted Cruz, of Texas, who was then Trump's rival for the GOP presidential nomination.

The paper had published a photo allegedly showing Cruz's father, Rafael Cruz, with Lee Harvey Oswald handing out pro-Fidel Castro pamphlets in New Orleans in 1963, not long before Oswald assassinated President John F. Kennedy.

National Enquirer made up the story about Ted Cruz's father and Lee Harvey Oswald, former publisher says

Thought the post about Oswald made referencing 2016 campaign dirty tricks with new info from recent trial fun.

I got the Enquiring vs Inquiring reference, but try to remember. I AM NOT SLEEPING ENOUGH. This means I post too much, am too verbal and often do not make sense because much of what I think never makes it to the post. On a good day I can do 60wpm. I can think more than double that under stress and lack of sleep.

It happens every July. Sometimes less bad and sometimes like this year epic. I don't remember this many heat index days in a row in NJ. Per someone's comment to me in RL, Its possible it happened in the early 90s. I would have been better funded, younger and have a car with working A/C. So it would have been much easier than now with all those resources.

[billisonboard]

Jul 17, 2024 19:30:57 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 17, 2024 18:39:47 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

So say there is a conspiracy, what flavor do we think it is? 

Biden arranged to have someone convince this mentally ill kid to take a shot at Trump to try to kill him? 

Or Trump arranged to have this mentally ill kid take a shot at him, planting a squib to explode as the bullet passed at a safe distance from his head, so he could heroically pump his fist in the air and make everyone adore him? That does actually sound like something Roger Stone would do. Rat fucking, I think he calls it. 

Or maybe a more mundane conspiracy, maybe the SS and the local police are scrambling to cover their asses for doing a really crappy job scoping out the site and monitoring the roof tops. 

IMO not a conspiracy, a plan. Who is benefitting with this attempt and it happening when it happened?

A: Trump and the GOP

So BIden is out of the picture entirely as are the Democrats, there is no advantage to be had from Trump not running.
Now remember with things like the Pizza Parlor shooting (actual RL person) J6, and the attack on Paul Pelosi, the GOP, the Chinese, Russia etc. are all running their misinformation Ops. There was no guarantee on the Pizza Parlor shooter I think, but the anti Pelosi campaign certainly bore fruit. MO.

And I will stop there as I think you are on the wrong tree in calling this guy mentally ill. He is a young male. In a job that doesn't pay well. That works full weekends on a regular basis. 

And lastly, Trump does not like to do things himself unless it involves pretending to be someone else to get a date or something else with a woman he finds sexually attractive.

Sharpshooter for hire was a side gig for a twenty year old dietary aide? Is that the tree you think we should be on? Not sure the branches on that tree can hold much weight. 

[Opti]

Jul 17, 2024 19:58:16 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 17, 2024 19:30:57 GMT -5 Opti said:

IMO not a conspiracy, a plan. Who is benefitting with this attempt and it happening when it happened?

A: Trump and the GOP

So BIden is out of the picture entirely as are the Democrats, there is no advantage to be had from Trump not running.
Now remember with things like the Pizza Parlor shooting (actual RL person) J6, and the attack on Paul Pelosi, the GOP, the Chinese, Russia etc. are all running their misinformation Ops. There was no guarantee on the Pizza Parlor shooter I think, but the anti Pelosi campaign certainly bore fruit. MO.

And I will stop there as I think you are on the wrong tree in calling this guy mentally ill. He is a young male. In a job that doesn't pay well. That works full weekends on a regular basis. 

And lastly, Trump does not like to do things himself unless it involves pretending to be someone else to get a date or something else with a woman he finds sexually attractive.

I don't get the timing advantage. The National Convention two days later were going to put Trump and the GOP in the headlines.

So you don't see the advantage of using the big RNC convention screen to boldly claim to the Trump follower faithful that Trump was saved by God from that bullet?

[billisonboard]

Jul 18, 2024 0:07:52 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 17, 2024 19:58:16 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

I don't get the timing advantage. The National Convention two days later were going to put Trump and the GOP in the headlines.

So you don't see the advantage of using the big RNC convention screen to boldly claim to the Trump follower faithful that Trump was saved by God from that bullet?

The Trump follower faithful are votes in the box already, so I don't see an advantage gained.

[Opti]

Jul 17, 2024 23:57:20 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 17, 2024 19:30:57 GMT -5 Opti said:

IMO not a conspiracy, a plan. Who is benefitting with this attempt and it happening when it happened?

A: Trump and the GOP

So BIden is out of the picture entirely as are the Democrats, there is no advantage to be had from Trump not running.
Now remember with things like the Pizza Parlor shooting (actual RL person) J6, and the attack on Paul Pelosi, the GOP, the Chinese, Russia etc. are all running their misinformation Ops. There was no guarantee on the Pizza Parlor shooter I think, but the anti Pelosi campaign certainly bore fruit. MO.

And I will stop there as I think you are on the wrong tree in calling this guy mentally ill. He is a young male. In a job that doesn't pay well. That works full weekends on a regular basis. 

And lastly, Trump does not like to do things himself unless it involves pretending to be someone else to get a date or something else with a woman he finds sexually attractive.

Sharpshooter for hire was a side gig for a twenty year old dietary aide? Is that the tree you think we should be on? Not sure the branches on that tree can hold much weight. 

Can you please check for me to verify you are still physically male.
I might answer your first Q if you do the above and I believe you.

[Opti]

Jul 18, 2024 0:16:03 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 18, 2024 0:07:52 GMT -5 Opti said:

So you don't see the advantage of using the big RNC convention screen to boldly claim to the Trump follower faithful that Trump was saved by God from that bullet?

The Trump follower faithful are votes in the box already, so I don't see an advantage gained.

Is BIden the TV President?
Has someone hmmm used the media to their advantage whenever possible for political and personal gain? Used it perhaps to make people keep him out of jail out of fear?

[billisonboard]

Jul 18, 2024 0:17:15 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 17, 2024 23:57:20 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Sharpshooter for hire was a side gig for a twenty year old dietary aide? Is that the tree you think we should be on? Not sure the branches on that tree can hold much weight. 

Can you please check for me to verify you are still physically male.
I might answer your first Q if you do the above and I believe you.

Really?

[billisonboard]

Jul 18, 2024 0:18:59 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 18, 2024 0:16:03 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

The Trump follower faithful are votes in the box already, so I don't see an advantage gained.

Is BIden the TV President?
Has someone hmmm used the media to their advantage whenever possible for political and personal gain? Used it perhaps to make people keep him out of jail out of fear?

Sorry. I have no clue what you are saying here.

Bedtime here for me. I will be back in the am for more fun.

[Opti]

ymam.proboards.com/post/3528743

Bills I created an entire thread for the RNC itself to separate out how DJT and his minions are spreading lies and whipping up the faithful. Perhaps you could read through it? Its not even one page long yet.

[Opti]

Jul 18, 2024 0:24:25 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 18, 2024 0:17:15 GMT -5 Opti said:

Can you please check for me to verify you are still physically male.
I might answer your first Q if you do the above and I believe you.

Really?

Yes.

You asked me a nonsensical Q. The shooter was reportedly to be 20 yrs old and male. Do you remember or know the demographics of the average first time shooter? 

Can you remember what it was like to be a young twenty-year-old male? If you were popular, can you imagine what it must be like to be a young socially awkward 20 yr old male who serves old people in a facility their meals? 

[billisonboard]

Jul 18, 2024 0:47:52 GMT -5 Opti said:

ymam.proboards.com/post/3528743

Bills I created an entire thread for the RNC itself to separate out how DJT and his minions are spreading lies and whipping up the faithful. Perhaps you could read through it? Its not even one page long yet.

A political party is doing what political parties do at conventions. Nothing extraordinary or particularly significant happening there. That is why the thread is less than a page. However, I have been reading it from your start.

[Opti]

Jul 18, 2024 8:00:33 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 18, 2024 0:47:52 GMT -5 Opti said:

ymam.proboards.com/post/3528743

Bills I created an entire thread for the RNC itself to separate out how DJT and his minions are spreading lies and whipping up the faithful. Perhaps you could read through it? Its not even one page long yet.

A political party is doing what political parties do at conventions. Nothing extraordinary or particularly significant happening there. That is why the thread is less than a page. However, I have been reading it from your start.

Strongly disagree, but I've only really paid attention to conventions from Obama/Hillary on.

[happyhoix]

Jul 17, 2024 19:08:20 GMT -5 swamp said:

Jul 17, 2024 18:39:47 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

So say there is a conspiracy, what flavor do we think it is? 

Biden arranged to have someone convince this mentally ill kid to take a shot at Trump to try to kill him? 

Or Trump arranged to have this mentally ill kid take a shot at him, planting a squib to explode as the bullet passed at a safe distance from his head, so he could heroically pump his fist in the air and make everyone adore him? That does actually sound like something Roger Stone would do. Rat fucking, I think he calls it. 

Or maybe a more mundane conspiracy, maybe the SS and the local police are scrambling to cover their asses for doing a really crappy job scoping out the site and monitoring the roof tops. 

I don’t know.  

Here is my favorite totally unsubstantiated, crazy conspiracy theory.  The shooter is religious and politically conservative, and he starts seeing all the information going around social media lately about Trump and Epstein (Trump has been outed as John Doe 143 who is all over the Epstein documents as a ‘client’ who frequently visited Epstein’s island for ‘massages’ with young, sometime 13/14 year old girls who were either naked or topless.)  Shooter may also be anti Jewish. All the reports about Epstein and Trump have been heavily shared in social media but conspicuously absent from main stream media. Shooter, upset that Trump was BFF with Epstein, a Jew, and engaged in perverse sex acts with underage girls that Epstein procured, and because no one seemed to be concerned about that except the shooter and fellow social media readers, shooter decides he has to do the Godly/patriotic thing and kill this false prophet. Additionally, he left a manifesto explaining why he did this, but the Trump team has been keeping the Epstein thing suppressed, helped by the dems who don’t what the Epstein/Bill Clinton connection also exposed, have kept the manifesto secret and everyone is going to just pretend they don’t know why the shooter did this. 

So, crazy enough I could start my own 4 Chan website and start dropping fake ‘truths’ to my followers? 

[Opti]

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/one-screen-two-movies-conflicting-conspiracy-theories-emerge-from-trump-shooting/ar-BB1qbnzY?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=d65399953c2b43dd8b015ef9fbf6d784&ei=8


Two dueling conspiracy theories are taking root online following Trump's attempted assassination, one for each end of America's polarized political spectrum. In this split-screen republic, Americans are increasingly choosing their own reality, at the expense of a shared understanding of the facts.




“One screen, two movies,” is how Ron Bassilian describes the online


Given it appears that the SS was trying to involve local police and perhaps capture the shooter early, I am revising my opinion.
Might change again, so don't be surprised.

Senior healthcare facilities can be a tough place to work. People not quite themselves or in various states of medical problems will cause you change your worldview on many things. Dietary aides serve meals to these people and see them every day or every weekend depending on when they work. I am guessing, but have no proof whatsoever, that the shooter heard certain people he served opining about Trump daily. And being the age he was, he would be a magnet for many of these people who want to tell their own kids or grandkids how to live. He's there, they are not, so he's going to be dealing with unwanted unsolicited advice simply doing his job of serving meals. It may have cracked him. And if local police or some other law enforcement had talked him off the roof b4 things went south, we may have never even heard about this attempt at all unless Trump or Biden wanted to make it known.

[billisonboard]

Jul 18, 2024 1:13:10 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 18, 2024 0:24:25 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Really?

Yes.

You asked me a nonsensical Q. The shooter was reportedly to be 20 yrs old and male. Do you remember or know the demographics of the average first time shooter? 

Can you remember what it was like to be a young twenty-year-old male? If you were popular, can you imagine what it must be like to be a young socially awkward 20 yr old male who serves old people in a facility their meals? 

I gave my interpretation of what you posted. You had the opportunity to correct it if my interpretation was wrong. Or deflect. So here is another opportunity to explain what you think caused this individual to undertake the actions he took.

EDIT: was slowly working on this while watching The Open on TV so didn't the proceeding post.

[Opti]

I'm done Bills. Got to get sleep and pay for a RT ride to the doctor's I cannot afford but must do.

[billisonboard]

Jul 18, 2024 8:45:46 GMT -5 Opti said:

I'm done Bills. Got to get sleep and pay for a RT ride to the doctor's I cannot afford but must do.

Hope you sleep deeply.

[billisonboard]

Jul 18, 2024 8:27:17 GMT -5 Opti said:

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/one-screen-two-movies-conflicting-conspiracy-theories-emerge-from-trump-shooting/ar-BB1qbnzY?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=d65399953c2b43dd8b015ef9fbf6d784&ei=8


Two dueling conspiracy theories are taking root online following Trump's attempted assassination, one for each end of America's polarized political spectrum. In this split-screen republic, Americans are increasingly choosing their own reality, at the expense of a shared understanding of the facts.




“One screen, two movies,” is how Ron Bassilian describes the online


Given it appears that the SS was trying to involve local police and perhaps capture the shooter early, I am revising my opinion.
Might change again, so don't be surprised.

Senior healthcare facilities can be a tough place to work. People not quite themselves or in various states of medical problems will cause you change your worldview on many things. Dietary aides serve meals to these people and see them every day or every weekend depending on when they work. I am guessing, but have no proof whatsoever, that the shooter heard certain people he served opining about Trump daily. And being the age he was, he would be a magnet for many of these people who want to tell their own kids or grandkids how to live. He's there, they are not, so he's going to be dealing with unwanted unsolicited advice simply doing his job of serving meals. It may have cracked him. And if local police or some other law enforcement had talked him off the roof b4 things went south, we may have never even heard about this attempt at all unless Trump or Biden wanted to make it known.

Meals would be served in one of two ways, or a combination of the two. Residents would be served in their rooms or in a central cafeteria. If meals are delivered to rooms, there would be a tight schedule to get meals out to all residents in a timely manner (particularly hot meals) that would not allow for much chit-chat. A cafeteria might be buffet style with aides being servers or replenishing items on the line. Or if plated meals are taken to seated residents, again deitary aides would be moving and not spending extended time with individuals. If he were a nursing aide, then he would be spending more extended time with residents. Dietary aide, not so much.

[Spellbound454]

I think its important to search out journalism which is evidence based and non-partisan
especially when something like this happens.

If I get a whiff of conspiracy it will be shut down, not interested in entertainment ....... only in science and fact.

How do you form a reasonable opinion if the whole thing is taken over by gossiping windbags.

[swamp]

Jul 18, 2024 8:20:26 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Jul 17, 2024 19:08:20 GMT -5 swamp said:

I don’t know.  

Here is my favorite totally unsubstantiated, crazy conspiracy theory.  The shooter is religious and politically conservative, and he starts seeing all the information going around social media lately about Trump and Epstein (Trump has been outed as John Doe 143 who is all over the Epstein documents as a ‘client’ who frequently visited Epstein’s island for ‘massages’ with young, sometime 13/14 year old girls who were either naked or topless.)  Shooter may also be anti Jewish. All the reports about Epstein and Trump have been heavily shared in social media but conspicuously absent from main stream media. Shooter, upset that Trump was BFF with Epstein, a Jew, and engaged in perverse sex acts with underage girls that Epstein procured, and because no one seemed to be concerned about that except the shooter and fellow social media readers, shooter decides he has to do the Godly/patriotic thing and kill this false prophet. Additionally, he left a manifesto explaining why he did this, but the Trump team has been keeping the Epstein thing suppressed, helped by the dems who don’t what the Epstein/Bill Clinton connection also exposed, have kept the manifesto secret and everyone is going to just pretend they don’t know why the shooter did this. 

So, crazy enough I could start my own 4 Chan website and start dropping fake ‘truths’ to my followers? 

It sounds completely reasonable as far as conspiracy theories go. 

[Opti]

Jul 18, 2024 9:19:47 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 18, 2024 8:27:17 GMT -5 Opti said:

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/one-screen-two-movies-conflicting-conspiracy-theories-emerge-from-trump-shooting/ar-BB1qbnzY?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=d65399953c2b43dd8b015ef9fbf6d784&ei=8


Two dueling conspiracy theories are taking root online following Trump's attempted assassination, one for each end of America's polarized political spectrum. In this split-screen republic, Americans are increasingly choosing their own reality, at the expense of a shared understanding of the facts.




“One screen, two movies,” is how Ron Bassilian describes the online


Given it appears that the SS was trying to involve local police and perhaps capture the shooter early, I am revising my opinion.
Might change again, so don't be surprised.

Senior healthcare facilities can be a tough place to work. People not quite themselves or in various states of medical problems will cause you change your worldview on many things. Dietary aides serve meals to these people and see them every day or every weekend depending on when they work. I am guessing, but have no proof whatsoever, that the shooter heard certain people he served opining about Trump daily. And being the age he was, he would be a magnet for many of these people who want to tell their own kids or grandkids how to live. He's there, they are not, so he's going to be dealing with unwanted unsolicited advice simply doing his job of serving meals. It may have cracked him. And if local police or some other law enforcement had talked him off the roof b4 things went south, we may have never even heard about this attempt at all unless Trump or Biden wanted to make it known.

Meals would be served in one of two ways, or a combination of the two. Residents would be served in their rooms or in a central cafeteria. If meals are delivered to rooms, there would be a tight schedule to get meals out to all residents in a timely manner (particularly hot meals) that would not allow for much chit-chat. A cafeteria might be buffet style with aides being servers or replenishing items on the line. Or if plated meals are taken to seated residents, again deitary aides would be moving and not spending extended time with individuals. If he were a nursing aide, then he would be spending more extended time with residents. Dietary aide, not so much.

I worked in a facility like this, and trust me some residents are really high touch and asking for lots of stuff in the general dining room.

But it doesn't really matter. The hearings start on Monday I believe. The last thing I read sounds super plausible. He was a gamer and decided it was time to do games in RL. 

When I helped out in recreation or rehab, I had to serve meals in the SNF and fetch drinks, requests, etc. Its not just I've seen this done before, I've had to take meal tickets to the chef to get what the patient or resident ordered. And negotiate depending on complaints and what their prescribed diet allowed them.And yes it is easier for CNAs who serve those bedbound or room bound. They understand why those diet orders are in place for that particular person and how they like to cheat the system or ask for double drinks, butter, etc.

[billisonboard]

Jul 18, 2024 17:01:35 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 18, 2024 9:19:47 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Meals would be served in one of two ways, or a combination of the two. Residents would be served in their rooms or in a central cafeteria. If meals are delivered to rooms, there would be a tight schedule to get meals out to all residents in a timely manner (particularly hot meals) that would not allow for much chit-chat. A cafeteria might be buffet style with aides being servers or replenishing items on the line. Or if plated meals are taken to seated residents, again deitary aides would be moving and not spending extended time with individuals. If he were a nursing aide, then he would be spending more extended time with residents. Dietary aide, not so much.

I worked in a facility like this, and trust me some residents are really high touch and asking for lots of stuff in the general dining room.

But it doesn't really matter. The hearings start on Monday I believe. The last thing I read sounds super plausible. He was a gamer and decided it was time to do games in RL. 

When I helped out in recreation or rehab, I had to serve meals in the SNF and fetch drinks, requests, etc. Its not just I've seen this done before, I've had to take meal tickets to the chef to get what the patient or resident ordered. And negotiate depending on complaints and what their prescribed diet allowed them.And yes it is easier for CNAs who serve those bedbound or room bound. They understand why those diet orders are in place for that particular person and how they like to cheat the system or ask for double drinks, butter, etc.

This one?

Earlier Thursday, CNN, citing a source familiar with the matter, reported that Thomas Matthews Crooks posted, “July 13 will be my premiere, watch as it unfolds.” The source did not elaborate on timing or whether there were other posts.

Investigators now believe account on gaming site in would-be assassin’s name is fake

[billisonboard]

Jul 18, 2024 17:01:35 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 18, 2024 9:19:47 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Meals would be served in one of two ways, or a combination of the two. Residents would be served in their rooms or in a central cafeteria. If meals are delivered to rooms, there would be a tight schedule to get meals out to all residents in a timely manner (particularly hot meals) that would not allow for much chit-chat. A cafeteria might be buffet style with aides being servers or replenishing items on the line. Or if plated meals are taken to seated residents, again deitary aides would be moving and not spending extended time with individuals. If he were a nursing aide, then he would be spending more extended time with residents. Dietary aide, not so much.

I worked in a facility like this, and trust me some residents are really high touch and asking for lots of stuff in the general dining room.

But it doesn't really matter. The hearings start on Monday I believe. The last thing I read sounds super plausible. He was a gamer and decided it was time to do games in RL. 

When I helped out in recreation or rehab, I had to serve meals in the SNF and fetch drinks, requests, etc. Its not just I've seen this done before, I've had to take meal tickets to the chef to get what the patient or resident ordered. And negotiate depending on complaints and what their prescribed diet allowed them.And yes it is easier for CNAs who serve those bedbound or room bound. They understand why those diet orders are in place for that particular person and how they like to cheat the system or ask for double drinks, butter, etc.

Sounds like one would be kept quite busy with food issues.

[Opti]

Jul 18, 2024 17:12:13 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 18, 2024 17:01:35 GMT -5 Opti said:

I worked in a facility like this, and trust me some residents are really high touch and asking for lots of stuff in the general dining room.

But it doesn't really matter. The hearings start on Monday I believe. The last thing I read sounds super plausible. He was a gamer and decided it was time to do games in RL. 

When I helped out in recreation or rehab, I had to serve meals in the SNF and fetch drinks, requests, etc. Its not just I've seen this done before, I've had to take meal tickets to the chef to get what the patient or resident ordered. And negotiate depending on complaints and what their prescribed diet allowed them.And yes it is easier for CNAs who serve those bedbound or room bound. They understand why those diet orders are in place for that particular person and how they like to cheat the system or ask for double drinks, butter, etc.

Sounds like one would be kept quite busy with food issues.

Yes. Even more true on the assisted living side. If you have time, you can preprep their usual table with the condiments or beverages they usually choose.

[billisonboard]

Jul 18, 2024 17:18:27 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 18, 2024 17:12:13 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Sounds like one would be kept quite busy with food issues.

Yes. Even more true on the assisted living side. If you have time, you can preprep their usual table with the condiments or beverages they usually choose.

So not that much time for political ideology chit-chat.

[billisonboard]

Jul 18, 2024 17:01:35 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 18, 2024 9:19:47 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Meals would be served in one of two ways, or a combination of the two. Residents would be served in their rooms or in a central cafeteria. If meals are delivered to rooms, there would be a tight schedule to get meals out to all residents in a timely manner (particularly hot meals) that would not allow for much chit-chat. A cafeteria might be buffet style with aides being servers or replenishing items on the line. Or if plated meals are taken to seated residents, again deitary aides would be moving and not spending extended time with individuals. If he were a nursing aide, then he would be spending more extended time with residents. Dietary aide, not so much.

I worked in a facility like this, and trust me some residents are really high touch and asking for lots of stuff in the general dining room.

But it doesn't really matter. The hearings start on Monday I believe. The last thing I read sounds super plausible. He was a gamer and decided it was time to do games in RL. 

When I helped out in recreation or rehab, I had to serve meals in the SNF and fetch drinks, requests, etc. Its not just I've seen this done before, I've had to take meal tickets to the chef to get what the patient or resident ordered. And negotiate depending on complaints and what their prescribed diet allowed them.And yes it is easier for CNAs who serve those bedbound or room bound. They understand why those diet orders are in place for that particular person and how they like to cheat the system or ask for double drinks, butter, etc.

I predict a lot of political grandstanding by House members occasionally interspersed with "we are still investigating that" testimony by the professionals actually involved in actual work on the situation. Then there is always the possibility there will be testimony by the usual experts with books to sell.

[happyhoix]

Jul 18, 2024 17:07:02 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 18, 2024 17:01:35 GMT -5 Opti said:

I worked in a facility like this, and trust me some residents are really high touch and asking for lots of stuff in the general dining room.

But it doesn't really matter. The hearings start on Monday I believe. The last thing I read sounds super plausible. He was a gamer and decided it was time to do games in RL. 

When I helped out in recreation or rehab, I had to serve meals in the SNF and fetch drinks, requests, etc. Its not just I've seen this done before, I've had to take meal tickets to the chef to get what the patient or resident ordered. And negotiate depending on complaints and what their prescribed diet allowed them.And yes it is easier for CNAs who serve those bedbound or room bound. They understand why those diet orders are in place for that particular person and how they like to cheat the system or ask for double drinks, butter, etc.

This one?

Earlier Thursday, CNN, citing a source familiar with the matter, reported that Thomas Matthews Crooks posted, “July 13 will be my premiere, watch as it unfolds.” The source did not elaborate on timing or whether there were other posts.

Investigators now believe account on gaming site in would-be assassin’s name is fake

I hope they take the time to try to find and prosecute these people attempting to create fake documents that promote their particular political view and stick them on the internet.

Hard enough for cops to investigate this without having to intensely fact check everything because of these assholes.

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Jul 14, 2024 6:46:09 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

Biden had the right response imo ."no place in American for this kind of violence, its sick"

Trump has every right to go to a rally and for people to go to support their candidate in a peaceful way.


I guess you have a nasty campaign going on, which gets multiplied x10 with social media, fake news and hysteria from both sides.
and for some little D-head to get the idea that they are entitled to murder.

This happens violent back waters all the time and seems to be a trait when there is no democracy.

but America needs to be better and  show the way.

Yes, I agree. One shouldn't have to worry about being shot at something like this, but in America's current gun culture it remains a possibility always. I think what has been lost during the heavy-handed marketing by Trump and company is the candidate has SS to protect him or her. The crowd does not. I hope in the coming days to see more video released showing a more truthful picture of what actually happened versus the over the top drama the Trump family was selling.

To the second point,  x a very large number
Bombs being placed in London is such a common thing that the TV series the IT Crowd made it into a running gag.

One of my favorite quotes, was "Roy can we take it home, please..."
about a bomb sniffing robot that looked like a dog and kind of like K9 of Dr Who fame.

Hey Spell, you should remember this. What was that magazine that was like MAD here in the States but booked the Islamic bear just one too many times? Lots of deaths in that office and resulting Islamic attacks in London, Paris etc. for awhile. Remember? 

Lastly, America does need to do anything for you TYVM. Your politician Boris whatshisface came over to kiss the ring of Trump during the convention. Response?

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Jul 18, 2024 17:21:05 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 18, 2024 17:18:27 GMT -5 Opti said:

Yes. Even more true on the assisted living side. If you have time, you can preprep their usual table with the condiments or beverages they usually choose.

So not that much time for political ideology chit-chat.

Actually whether you want it or no, sometimes that's all the residents and patients are choosing to talk about. Sometimes depends on what's playing music-wise or what was on the news that day.

But again, Bills, in this instance it doesn't really matter. If indeed this particular young man confused game life with RL, odds are high it was his virtual life and experiences that influenced him to do this. 


And as always, the problem is the availability of guns not the reason of the day why this shooter chose to do this. He was 20 yrs old and male. There are lots of emotion and not enough control at the age and ages around it.