Shooting at Trump Rally

[NastyWoman]

Jul 16, 2024 10:53:57 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 16, 2024 10:32:54 GMT -5 Opti said:

And because he is dead, in many senses the reason no longer matters. 

  Bills, maybe Bannon paid off his student loans if he would do this b4 the RNC convention. 

The President of the United States was shot at. Serious event. I am just finding it not funny all the fucking bullshit. A lot of ignorant/stupid/evil/etc people are tossing out and hearing that bullshit. So when I have to read it, I will respond with non-bullshit:

Are his student loans paid off? Easy to establish.
If yes, is there a logical way that funds to do so were available legitimately?
If not, can they be traced backwards or forward to Bannon or anyone associated with him?
If the funds end up being untraceable after a full investigation, I will entertain conspiracy theory.

What shooting are you talking about? Has there been another one that I missed? The person who was shot at in this discussion (FOPA) was at one point POTUS,  and come January 2025 he may be once again. However, at the time of this shooting he was nothing more than a person running for that office. Biden is currently POTUS.

[Opti]

Jul 16, 2024 10:53:57 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 16, 2024 10:32:54 GMT -5 Opti said:

And because he is dead, in many senses the reason no longer matters. 

  Bills, maybe Bannon paid off his student loans if he would do this b4 the RNC convention. 

The President of the United States was shot at. Serious event. I am just finding it not funny all the fucking bullshit. A lot of ignorant/stupid/evil/etc people are tossing out and hearing that bullshit. So when I have to read it, I will respond with non-bullshit:

Are his student loans paid off? Easy to establish.
If yes, is there a logical way that funds to do so were available legitimately?
If not, can they be traced backwards or forward to Bannon or anyone associated with him?
If the funds end up being untraceable after a full investigation, I will entertain conspiracy theory.

Going to stop you right there Bills.

The Former President of the United States was shot at.
Steve Bannon was "warning" of a impending shooting of FPOTUS for at least 18 months.
I don't like his evil self, but he is a master tactician.

So all the theatre Bannon did a little early like claiming to be a martyr to the cause was probably in
wait for this event to occur as it did. For all I know they used their datanalytics team to whisper in various
unstable ears until one was moved to "kill" Trump. 

I don't care if you entertain my conspiracy theories or not. I might keep creating them while we wait to see
what happened or what the Senate and Congress might tell us about what happened. Trump now gets SS protection
equivalent to the actual sitting President. You know that guy, Biden, who had to walk into office with a failed Covid response
and an Afghanistan deal so huge the actual govt was left out of it. Trump and his administration only dealt with the Taliban.
Its not like that approach could go badly  or cave in unexpected ways. <Cough X 12>

Its OK if you respond with possible BS, because I think I understand this situation better than you do. I did lots and lots of reading
of political books including how campaigns are/were done etc. Remember all the levels of hiding the Stormy Daniels payout? I am sure Bannon et all have learned from that, and the trail might be harder to find ... or Bannon may fall on his sword for his own reasons. TBD

[billisonboard]

Jul 16, 2024 11:20:03 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Jul 16, 2024 10:53:57 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

The President of the United States was shot at. Serious event. I am just finding it not funny all the fucking bullshit. A lot of ignorant/stupid/evil/etc people are tossing out and hearing that bullshit. So when I have to read it, I will respond with non-bullshit:

Are his student loans paid off? Easy to establish.
If yes, is there a logical way that funds to do so were available legitimately?
If not, can they be traced backwards or forward to Bannon or anyone associated with him?
If the funds end up being untraceable after a full investigation, I will entertain conspiracy theory.

What shooting are you talking about? Has there been another one that I missed? The person who was shot at in this discussion (FOPA) was at one point POTUS,  and come January 2025 he may be once again. However, at the time of this shooting he was nothing more than a person running for that office. Biden is currently POTUS.

I stand corrected. Thank you for doing that.

[billisonboard]

Jul 16, 2024 11:23:40 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 16, 2024 10:53:57 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

The President of the United States was shot at. Serious event. I am just finding it not funny all the fucking bullshit. A lot of ignorant/stupid/evil/etc people are tossing out and hearing that bullshit. So when I have to read it, I will respond with non-bullshit:

Are his student loans paid off? Easy to establish.
If yes, is there a logical way that funds to do so were available legitimately?
If not, can they be traced backwards or forward to Bannon or anyone associated with him?
If the funds end up being untraceable after a full investigation, I will entertain conspiracy theory.

Going to stop you right there Bills.

...

No you aren't. You are just going to post something.

[billisonboard]

Jul 16, 2024 11:23:40 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 16, 2024 10:53:57 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

The President of the United States was shot at. Serious event. I am just finding it not funny all the fucking bullshit. A lot of ignorant/stupid/evil/etc people are tossing out and hearing that bullshit. So when I have to read it, I will respond with non-bullshit:

Are his student loans paid off? Easy to establish.
If yes, is there a logical way that funds to do so were available legitimately?
If not, can they be traced backwards or forward to Bannon or anyone associated with him?
If the funds end up being untraceable after a full investigation, I will entertain conspiracy theory.

Going to stop you right there Bills.

The Former President of the United States was shot at.
Steve Bannon was "warning" of a impending shooting of FPOTUS for at least 18 months.
I don't like his evil self, but he is a master tactician.

So all the theatre Bannon did a little early like claiming to be a martyr to the cause was probably in
wait for this event to occur as it did. For all I know they used their datanalytics team to whisper in various
unstable ears until one was moved to "kill" Trump. 

I don't care if you entertain my conspiracy theories or not. I might keep creating them while we wait to see
what happened or what the Senate and Congress might tell us about what happened. Trump now gets SS protection
equivalent to the actual sitting President. You know that guy, Biden, who had to walk into office with a failed Covid response
and an Afghanistan deal so huge the actual govt was left out of it. Trump and his administration only dealt with the Taliban.
Its not like that approach could go badly  or cave in unexpected ways. <Cough X 12>

Its OK if you respond with possible BS, because I think I understand this situation better than you do. I did lots and lots of reading
of political books including how campaigns are/were done etc. Remember all the levels of hiding the Stormy Daniels payout? I am sure Bannon et all have learned from that, and the trail might be harder to find ... or Bannon may fall on his sword for his own reasons. TBD

My reasoning is not BS.

[Opti]

Jul 16, 2024 11:28:35 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 16, 2024 11:23:40 GMT -5 Opti said:

Going to stop you right there Bills.

...

No you aren't. You are just going to post something.

It was a figure of speech, remember those?

I'm going to post lots of things I want DQ to help. She has a serious flare for creating conspiracy theories. 

I found this video, which shows the "Fight, Fight" chant from the POV of those on the Podium. Notice how Vance's beard echoes that of Don Jr. Explains him as a choice IMO.

[billisonboard]

Jul 16, 2024 11:23:40 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 16, 2024 10:53:57 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

The President of the United States was shot at. Serious event. I am just finding it not funny all the fucking bullshit. A lot of ignorant/stupid/evil/etc people are tossing out and hearing that bullshit. So when I have to read it, I will respond with non-bullshit:

Are his student loans paid off? Easy to establish.
If yes, is there a logical way that funds to do so were available legitimately?
If not, can they be traced backwards or forward to Bannon or anyone associated with him?
If the funds end up being untraceable after a full investigation, I will entertain conspiracy theory.

Going to stop you right there Bills.

The Former President of the United States was shot at.
Steve Bannon was "warning" of a impending shooting of FPOTUS for at least 18 months.
I don't like his evil self, but he is a master tactician.

So all the theatre Bannon did a little early like claiming to be a martyr to the cause was probably in
wait for this event to occur as it did. For all I know they used their datanalytics team to whisper in various
unstable ears until one was moved to "kill" Trump. 

I don't care if you entertain my conspiracy theories or not. I might keep creating them while we wait to see
what happened or what the Senate and Congress might tell us about what happened. Trump now gets SS protection
equivalent to the actual sitting President. You know that guy, Biden, who had to walk into office with a failed Covid response
and an Afghanistan deal so huge the actual govt was left out of it. Trump and his administration only dealt with the Taliban.
Its not like that approach could go badly  or cave in unexpected ways. <Cough X 12>

Its OK if you respond with possible BS, because I think I understand this situation better than you do. I did lots and lots of reading
of political books including how campaigns are/were done etc. Remember all the levels of hiding the Stormy Daniels payout? I am sure Bannon et all have learned from that, and the trail might be harder to find ... or Bannon may fall on his sword for his own reasons. TBD

You are basing the idea of Bannon being a "master tacticion" on what?

I certainly hope you think you understand this situation better than I. Wouldn't be good if you thought you understood it less and still argued with me.

[Opti]

Jul 16, 2024 17:59:51 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 16, 2024 11:23:40 GMT -5 Opti said:

Going to stop you right there Bills.

The Former President of the United States was shot at.
Steve Bannon was "warning" of a impending shooting of FPOTUS for at least 18 months.
I don't like his evil self, but he is a master tactician.

So all the theatre Bannon did a little early like claiming to be a martyr to the cause was probably in
wait for this event to occur as it did. For all I know they used their datanalytics team to whisper in various
unstable ears until one was moved to "kill" Trump. 

I don't care if you entertain my conspiracy theories or not. I might keep creating them while we wait to see
what happened or what the Senate and Congress might tell us about what happened. Trump now gets SS protection
equivalent to the actual sitting President. You know that guy, Biden, who had to walk into office with a failed Covid response
and an Afghanistan deal so huge the actual govt was left out of it. Trump and his administration only dealt with the Taliban.
Its not like that approach could go badly  or cave in unexpected ways. <Cough X 12>

Its OK if you respond with possible BS, because I think I understand this situation better than you do. I did lots and lots of reading
of political books including how campaigns are/were done etc. Remember all the levels of hiding the Stormy Daniels payout? I am sure Bannon et all have learned from that, and the trail might be harder to find ... or Bannon may fall on his sword for his own reasons. TBD

You are basing the idea of Bannon being a "master tacticion" on what?

I certainly hope you think you understand this situation better than I. Wouldn't be good if you thought you understood it less and still argued with me.

Bannon is the one who decided what goals needed to be met in the first 100 days of Trump's presidential term. Trump had pretty much kicked Christie to the curb and his suggestions for filling the govt posts because Christie did not accept Trump's job offer of whatever it was. (Not AG, which is what Christie wanted if he could not be President) And Jared hated Christie, so he was on the outs anyway.

This is simplified from a number of books I read from 2016 to the present. Looking to read the War Room one on Bannon or have the library order it.

[billisonboard]

Jul 16, 2024 18:11:48 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 16, 2024 17:59:51 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

You are basing the idea of Bannon being a "master tacticion" on what?

I certainly hope you think you understand this situation better than I. Wouldn't be good if you thought you understood it less and still argued with me.

Bannon is the one who decided what goals needed to be met in the first 100 days of Trump's presidential term. Trump had pretty much kicked Christie to the curb and his suggestions for filling the govt posts because Christie did not accept Trump's job offer of whatever it was. (Not AG, which is what Christie wanted if he could not be President) And Jared hated Christie, so he was on the outs anyway.

This is simplified from a number of books I read from 2016 to the present. Looking to read the War Room one on Bannon or have the library order it.

In his “Contract with the American Voter,” President Donald J. Trump pledged to pursue and implement an ambitious program of reforms during his first 100 days of office. Trump’s agenda would be unrealistic for even an experienced president cooperating efficiently with a supportive Congress. Trump himself took office with no prior political experience and an uneasy relationship even with congressional Republicans. It comes as no surprise, then, that most of the items in the Contract with the American Voter have not been achieved.

If there is a single theme to Trump’s first 100 days, it has been learning how things get done rather than getting them done. 

link

So Bannon decided goals that were not reasonably achievable. Any other evidence of being a great tactician?

[billisonboard]

Steve Bannon was "warning" of a impending shooting of FPOTUS for at least 18 months.
I don't like his evil self, but he is a master tactician.

So all the theatre Bannon did a little early like claiming to be a martyr to the cause was probably in
wait for this event to occur as it did. For all I know they used their datanalytics team to whisper in various
unstable ears until one was moved to "kill" Trump. 

Bannon worked hard to connect himself to an impending shooting so when it happened ...? It seems to me that if you were working to make it happen, you wouldn't want people to think immediately of you when it happened. I guess if you think you have covered your tracks well enough, you wouldn't be concerned about being scrutinized.

A strategy of attempting to influence "various" individuals "until" seems to leave a lot to chance. I am not seeing it as a great tactic.

[thyme4change]

I think we are getting a little conspiracy crazy.

Thinking that a team of professionals could write a well thought out letter from Melania in a couple of hours is insanely reasonable.

I’m sure there are plenty of people who authoritatively state they saw X, Y or Z. And are misremembering - people’s memories are notoriously flawed.

And yes - Bannon is out there being a nut. But that isn’t new. He has been an attention whore for decades.

I spent 8 years saying there would be an assassination attempt on Obama. It never happened - but if it had I could bang a drum and say ‘I knew it!’ It doesn’t make me clairvoyant or part of a plot. It just makes me someone with a mouth.

[Opti]

The gunman, who officials said was killed by Secret Service personnel, fired multiple shots at the stage from an “elevated position outside of the rally venue,” the agency said. Trump was bloodied and says he was 'shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear.'


www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joy-reid-implies-trump-is-partly-responsible-for-assassination-attempt/ss-BB1q5p6V?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=7bb17e50435c45c7a290dd938d635196&ei=23#image=8

Dropped here looking for comments from PMD and scgal. I do not know what the upper part of a human ear might look like if a bullet grazed it on its way through to kill the firefighter husband or injure the 50something and 74 yr old man that got hospitalized.
Since it was an AR15 and scgal tells me she knows the ammo that can be used it, I have questions.

Was his ear really shot, and how and where. Because if someone wants to shoot you in the ear it usually would be say heading through the ear and on to your head/skull. So I don't think that this is that type of shot, and person in front of the bullet's path or near it. 

I'd like to see a committee convene on this by sometime in Sept so there can be some preliminary conclusions b4 the election in early Nov.

[Opti]

Jul 17, 2024 9:06:43 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

I think we are getting a little conspiracy crazy.

Thinking that a team of professionals could write a well thought out letter from Melania in a couple of hours is insanely reasonable.

I’m sure there are plenty of people who authoritatively state they saw X, Y or Z. And are misremembering - people’s memories are notoriously flawed.

And yes - Bannon is out there being a nut. But that isn’t new. He has been an attention whore for decades.

I spent 8 years saying there would be an assassination attempt on Obama. It never happened - but if it had I could bang a drum and say ‘I knew it!’ It doesn’t make me clairvoyant or part of a plot. It just makes me someone with a mouth.

Given some of the language, it felt like it was written perhaps a month or two months ago. Bannon dialed up his someone is going to try to kill Trump talking points around the time he went to jail. Why? I do not think this is a coincidence. Putin and Kim fake assassinations and commit real ones fairly regularly. 

Dems and people who don't like Trump haven't really called for his killing like they did back in 2016 into 2017. Since Biden has been elected, the calls for violence and killing are almost all on the GOP spin machine side. Now the MAGAs will assume its the Dems just because they are well trained, and they think liberals are just some weird opposite of how they think. 

Think on how Putin decided to use the cover story of Nazis in Ukraine to provide social cover for him wanting to steal back by force former parts of Russia. I would think most people living in Ukraine, Crimea, etc. were not all that keen on his war for legacy reasons. So look, think, this attempt couldn't have occurred at a more perfect time for Trump's and GOPs political purposes.
And, if that's not enough there might have been a legit vetted threat from Iran to kill former President Trump. 

[swamp]

I am not a conspiracy theory person.  I believe in Occam's Razor and the general incompetence of people.   But this seems really odd.  

[billisonboard]

Jul 17, 2024 10:59:39 GMT -5 Opti said:

The gunman, who officials said was killed by Secret Service personnel, fired multiple shots at the stage from an “elevated position outside of the rally venue,” the agency said. Trump was bloodied and says he was 'shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear.'


www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joy-reid-implies-trump-is-partly-responsible-for-assassination-attempt/ss-BB1q5p6V?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=7bb17e50435c45c7a290dd938d635196&ei=23#image=8

Dropped here looking for comments from PMD and scgal. I do not know what the upper part of a human ear might look like if a bullet grazed it on its way through to kill the firefighter husband or injure the 50something and 74 yr old man that got hospitalized.
Since it was an AR15 and scgal tells me she knows the ammo that can be used it, I have questions.

Was his ear really shot, and how and where. Because if someone wants to shoot you in the ear it usually would be say heading through the ear and on to your head/skull. So I don't think that this is that type of shot, and person in front of the bullet's path or near it. 

I'd like to see a committee convene on this by sometime in Sept so there can be some preliminary conclusions b4 the election in early Nov.

I find the bolded an odd statement. I, of course, have no idea what shot the shooter "want(ed)" to make. I could see if he was going for a head shot and missed slightly it would pass closely past the head. Taking into account the angle of the shot and Trump’s head, the ear simply got in the way.

[swamp]

Not even a sharpshooter would attempt to shoot someone in the ear.   

You aim for the center of mass, the midsection of the body.     

[Opti]

Crooks listed himself as unemployed in 2020, but he worked most recently as a dietary aide at Bethel Park Skilled Nursing and Rehabilitation Center, a state-licensed transitional facility.

Not sure what transitional means in this case, but dietary aide is usually a server out of the kitchen that has to know diets, pass food safety certifications, etc.



www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-shooter-told-boss-he-needed-day-off-before-assassination-attempt-gave-three-word-reason-report/ar-BB1q9NJi?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=f7e6511782fa46c0a7df00556f6d6aba&ei=12


Former President Trump's would-be assassin would have been at work on Saturday, but told his boss that he needed the day off because he had "something to do," according to reports.

(Sick humor, I guess that's one way of not having to work Sunday. )

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Jul 17, 2024 9:06:43 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

I think we are getting a little conspiracy crazy.

Thinking that a team of professionals could write a well thought out letter from Melania in a couple of hours is insanely reasonable.

I’m sure there are plenty of people who authoritatively state they saw X, Y or Z. And are misremembering - people’s memories are notoriously flawed.

And yes - Bannon is out there being a nut. But that isn’t new. He has been an attention whore for decades.

I spent 8 years saying there would be an assassination attempt on Obama. It never happened - but if it had I could bang a drum and say ‘I knew it!’ It doesn’t make me clairvoyant or part of a plot. It just makes me someone with a mouth.

There are still a lot of people who insist there was a second gun man on the grassy knoll and/or that Hoover was behind JFK's assassination there was no way Oswald was acting alone.

Same story different day.

[billisonboard]

Jul 17, 2024 15:50:34 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Jul 17, 2024 9:06:43 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

I think we are getting a little conspiracy crazy.

Thinking that a team of professionals could write a well thought out letter from Melania in a couple of hours is insanely reasonable.

I’m sure there are plenty of people who authoritatively state they saw X, Y or Z. And are misremembering - people’s memories are notoriously flawed.

And yes - Bannon is out there being a nut. But that isn’t new. He has been an attention whore for decades.

I spent 8 years saying there would be an assassination attempt on Obama. It never happened - but if it had I could bang a drum and say ‘I knew it!’ It doesn’t make me clairvoyant or part of a plot. It just makes me someone with a mouth.

There are still a lot of people who insist there was a second gun man on the grassy knoll and/or that Hoover was behind JFK's assassination there was no way Oswald was acting alone.

Same story different day.

And/or Ted Cruz's father.

[Opti]

Jul 17, 2024 15:56:32 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 17, 2024 15:50:34 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

There are still a lot of people who insist there was a second gun man on the grassy knoll and/or that Hoover was behind JFK's assassination there was no way Oswald was acting alone.

Same story different day.

And/or Ted Cruz's father.

From which multiverse? 

[billisonboard]

Jul 17, 2024 15:58:48 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 17, 2024 15:56:32 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

And/or Ted Cruz's father.

From which multiverse? 

Enquirering minds want to know. 

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Jul 17, 2024 15:56:32 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 17, 2024 15:50:34 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

There are still a lot of people who insist there was a second gun man on the grassy knoll and/or that Hoover was behind JFK's assassination there was no way Oswald was acting alone.

Same story different day.

And/or Ted Cruz's father.

Isn't Ted Cruz supposed to be the Zodiac killer?

[djAdvocate]

Jul 17, 2024 15:50:34 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Jul 17, 2024 9:06:43 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

I think we are getting a little conspiracy crazy.

Thinking that a team of professionals could write a well thought out letter from Melania in a couple of hours is insanely reasonable.

I’m sure there are plenty of people who authoritatively state they saw X, Y or Z. And are misremembering - people’s memories are notoriously flawed.

And yes - Bannon is out there being a nut. But that isn’t new. He has been an attention whore for decades.

I spent 8 years saying there would be an assassination attempt on Obama. It never happened - but if it had I could bang a drum and say ‘I knew it!’ It doesn’t make me clairvoyant or part of a plot. It just makes me someone with a mouth.

There are still a lot of people who insist there was a second gun man on the grassy knoll and/or that Hoover was behind JFK's assassination there was no way Oswald was acting alone.

Same story different day.

except that there was an investigation done by the government that came to the same conclusion......

you show me facts, i will be MORE inclined to believe it.....

[dondubble]

Jul 17, 2024 15:50:34 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Jul 17, 2024 9:06:43 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

I think we are getting a little conspiracy crazy.

Thinking that a team of professionals could write a well thought out letter from Melania in a couple of hours is insanely reasonable.

I’m sure there are plenty of people who authoritatively state they saw X, Y or Z. And are misremembering - people’s memories are notoriously flawed.

And yes - Bannon is out there being a nut. But that isn’t new. He has been an attention whore for decades.

I spent 8 years saying there would be an assassination attempt on Obama. It never happened - but if it had I could bang a drum and say ‘I knew it!’ It doesn’t make me clairvoyant or part of a plot. It just makes me someone with a mouth.

There are still a lot of people who insist there was a second gun man on the grassy knoll and/or that Hoover was behind JFK's assassination there was no way Oswald was acting alone.

Same story different day.

It was easy to sell the lone nut gunman theory to a traumatized public. But there was at least 1 shooter on the grassy knoll and probably others. But hey! If you want to believe the now completely debunked ‘magic bullet theory’ it’s ok by me. I’m deep into a completely different version that’s not so neat.

[happyhoix]

Jul 17, 2024 11:52:55 GMT -5 swamp said:

I am not a conspiracy theory person.  I believe in Occam's Razor and the general incompetence of people.   But this seems really odd.  

So say there is a conspiracy, what flavor do we think it is? 

Biden arranged to have someone convince this mentally ill kid to take a shot at Trump to try to kill him? 

Or Trump arranged to have this mentally ill kid take a shot at him, planting a squib to explode as the bullet passed at a safe distance from his head, so he could heroically pump his fist in the air and make everyone adore him? That does actually sound like something Roger Stone would do. Rat fucking, I think he calls it. 

Or maybe a more mundane conspiracy, maybe the SS and the local police are scrambling to cover their asses for doing a really crappy job scoping out the site and monitoring the roof tops. 

[swamp]

Jul 17, 2024 18:39:47 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Jul 17, 2024 11:52:55 GMT -5 swamp said:

I am not a conspiracy theory person.  I believe in Occam's Razor and the general incompetence of people.   But this seems really odd.  

So say there is a conspiracy, what flavor do we think it is? 

Biden arranged to have someone convince this mentally ill kid to take a shot at Trump to try to kill him? 

Or Trump arranged to have this mentally ill kid take a shot at him, planting a squib to explode as the bullet passed at a safe distance from his head, so he could heroically pump his fist in the air and make everyone adore him? That does actually sound like something Roger Stone would do. Rat fucking, I think he calls it. 

Or maybe a more mundane conspiracy, maybe the SS and the local police are scrambling to cover their asses for doing a really crappy job scoping out the site and monitoring the roof tops. 

I don’t know.  

[Opti]

Jul 17, 2024 18:39:47 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Jul 17, 2024 11:52:55 GMT -5 swamp said:

I am not a conspiracy theory person.  I believe in Occam's Razor and the general incompetence of people.   But this seems really odd.  

So say there is a conspiracy, what flavor do we think it is? 

Biden arranged to have someone convince this mentally ill kid to take a shot at Trump to try to kill him? 

Or Trump arranged to have this mentally ill kid take a shot at him, planting a squib to explode as the bullet passed at a safe distance from his head, so he could heroically pump his fist in the air and make everyone adore him? That does actually sound like something Roger Stone would do. Rat fucking, I think he calls it. 

Or maybe a more mundane conspiracy, maybe the SS and the local police are scrambling to cover their asses for doing a really crappy job scoping out the site and monitoring the roof tops. 

IMO not a conspiracy, a plan. Who is benefitting with this attempt and it happening when it happened?

A: Trump and the GOP

So BIden is out of the picture entirely as are the Democrats, there is no advantage to be had from Trump not running.
Now remember with things like the Pizza Parlor shooting (actual RL person) J6, and the attack on Paul Pelosi, the GOP, the Chinese, Russia etc. are all running their misinformation Ops. There was no guarantee on the Pizza Parlor shooter I think, but the anti Pelosi campaign certainly bore fruit. MO.

And I will stop there as I think you are on the wrong tree in calling this guy mentally ill. He is a young male. In a job that doesn't pay well. That works full weekends on a regular basis. 

And lastly, Trump does not like to do things himself unless it involves pretending to be someone else to get a date or something else with a woman he finds sexually attractive.

[Opti]

Jul 17, 2024 16:15:03 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Jul 17, 2024 15:56:32 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

And/or Ted Cruz's father.

Isn't Ted Cruz supposed to be the Zodiac killer?

Maybe. Which Zodiac is he using and what is his sign?
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[Opti]

Jul 17, 2024 16:11:50 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 17, 2024 15:58:48 GMT -5 Opti said:

From which multiverse? 

Enquirering minds want to know. 

IDK. I just asked to get the ultimate multiverse movie back from the library to watch it again.
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[billisonboard]

Jul 17, 2024 19:36:34 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 17, 2024 16:11:50 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Enquirering minds want to know. 

IDK. I just asked to get the ultimate multiverse movie back from the library to watch it again.
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My post was an old ad line for the National Enquirer.

David Pecker, the former publisher of the National Enquirer, testified at Donald Trump's trial Tuesday that the tabloid completely manufactured a negative story in 2016 about the father of Sen. Ted Cruz, of Texas, who was then Trump's rival for the GOP presidential nomination.

The paper had published a photo allegedly showing Cruz's father, Rafael Cruz, with Lee Harvey Oswald handing out pro-Fidel Castro pamphlets in New Orleans in 1963, not long before Oswald assassinated President John F. Kennedy.

National Enquirer made up the story about Ted Cruz's father and Lee Harvey Oswald, former publisher says

Thought the post about Oswald made referencing 2016 campaign dirty tricks with new info from recent trial fun.